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Daughter Of John McCain's Running Mate Pregnant: So What?

American politics is so weird sometimes!

Sarah paling's[John Mccain's running mate] teenage daughter is pregnant and American press is agog!

so what is the big deal about that? why are they making such a fuss about it?

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Sarcasm? You mean I missed the message? WOW!!! Were you trying to say your example is fact there?

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@ Kobo

How come you miss the sarcasm in my last post!

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Again, grow up. Go back read the post I labelled as RUBBISH,  pick up a dictionary, if you feel the definition I posted from the dictionary is somehow biased and then use your head to figure out why I labelled it rubbish and how come you are the only one going on and on about that particular post up to this minute.

I am not sure if you know what it means to live, but the definition of wrong is not defined by the view of the so-called majority in your case. Just cause you have people on your side who seem to have the same problem understanding simple posts as you obviously seem to does not mean you are right and I am wrong. That logic only applies in wonderland. In the real world, you need to come up with better reason than that.  Go back and READ!!!

One would think that since the dictionary remains the sole authority on meaning of words and application, you would understand why I would post that to help you understand what I type and the use of the word. But since it seems you may be more into manufacturing your own meanings, I leave it to you to decide if you will learn to READ posts as is instead of coming back with ATTACKS on my person and somehow thinking that validates your stance or view.

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It must be awesome being the All-intelligent-maximum-IQ-master called Kobo. Everyone arguing with you knows it's like talking to a brick wall. You won't move even when you've been proven wrong. You just add more bricks on and make yourself more dense. You'll keep coming. Obviously, while growing up you never learnt that you cannot be right all the time.

And yes you keep proving me right. Your definition of rubbish = contrary view. It makes no difference if you copy and paste dictionary meanings like you love to do.

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Does the fact that Sarah Palin has publicly expressed support for contraception have any bearing on some of the more ignorant hogwash being produced here?

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The word seems to take on new meaning when people find they can not stand those on the other side.

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In the same vein, abstinence from sin didn't work for Judah Iscariot, yet Jesus promotes it religiously. That's hypocricy!

What a brilliant reasoning! carry on Admin!

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When you grow up, try to be more honest. Like I posted in response to you earlier, there are views and there is just silly talk. If you come on here to tell us that suddenly the bars have been moved, you are not posting a view/opinion but rubbish/crapola/nonsense. Please learn to read and accept when you do not understand the message , to ask rather than go around spewing more lies thinking that adds more points to your IQ.

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If you are looking to hear something, you will definitely hear stories. There is no shortage of rumours and lies out there for people who have ears to listen to such.

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I[b] heard [/b] Palin had a secret affair and posed Unclad.

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They'll most likely pretend it isn't there, or call it "rubbish" as kobo refers to views against his.

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@davidylan,

Your criticims doesn't make you sexist. However, you reveal nothing but sexism when you say and I quote, actually paraphrasing that "Sarah Palin brings nothing but her womanliness to the race".

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hahaha thanks Khai-Khai. someone sent that to me last night and i lost the link.

I particularly liked this most - leveling criticism doesnt make you a sexist. I hope Kobojunkie can hear that.

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Oboy, do not let our fanatical Repubs in the house hear that o. It isn't something their eyes can see.

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Abstinence-only sex education didn't work for her family, yet she promotes it politically. That's hypocrisy.

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Please allow me to digress here. Its all so pathethic some arguements i hear from christains. Lets go religious now 1 Corinthains 6:18 advise we flee fornication, a sin against ones own body. Abstinence is the only solution in the bible, in short all we are to flee all appearances of evil.

My question ? Is this done by the canal man or the man filled by the spirit, how can you live a life free from fornication if you dont have Gods spirit abiding on your inside, then some christains would attempt this on a carnal man as if that was Gods plan and when it fails you dare try to infer that those who oppose those views are against God or are saying that God has failed.

You guys better start thinking properly.

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@ kobo, maybe you can show me where i stated fornication is not a sin or wrong.

You need to loosen up, i thought you didnt have time to post, you can run along its not by force.

You seem to be using the dictionary a lot, are you learning these words.

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That's a given. But this parent we are refering to has her beliefs/party policies which she believes should be implemented.

One of which is the teaching of abstinence-only in schools, as opposed to what the rival propose(the use of contraceptives et al).

Obviously her policy on the issue could not even work with her daughter(in her home).

But she'D rather stick to it like some fanatic. Most of the policies they are bringing to the table are the same ones oga GWB has been using. They should accept failure and bring something different, rather than keep peddling the same failed stuff.

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Then on the second.

Agreed no matter what the extreme right says i for one will always be against it, but that doesnt mean i wont consider the veracity or falsity of the claims. Both camps will always talk and as u said its all about the morals and perception. You stated a key point politicians stand on issues informs u of his morals. The right has ruled so much because of this perception of morals they propagate and every reasonable man likes a man with morals.

Who says a Liberal or the democrats has no morals because of his views on choice or can't protect America because of their positions so that media war will go on, the left has long been out done, they will need to do more.

Please on the Roe vs Wade sweetie don't be decieved at all. Theres more at stake in this election than a lot know, in the next 4 years there might be room to appint 4 Judges and adding that to what is on ground now, a lot can change. I don't see that Judgement changing but the issue is that the legal climate can change and who knows with the kind of ideology vibrating of the McCain camp its scary.

Then on Palin agreed this singular action of her daughter should not be used to access her qualification as VP, as kids are more likely to go against their parents guidance, parents can only trust that bring up your child in the way he should go when he is old he wont depart, thats only what parents can hold on to.

The issue is on the positions she takes, she definately has some major accomplishements for her to have come this far and credit to her. But as VP now what Martin Luther  King called the "urgency of now", another extremist bush kind of views wont cut,  another Cheeney only younger and pretty would be disaster. They stand for more of the the same things.

On one key position she takes, the result of failure started from her own house. Its only unfortunate thats its her daughter, its the failure of her policies for me that doesnt make her qualified.

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Please consult a dictionary to know the difference between posting an Opinion and posting rubbish !

opinion Definition

opin•ion (ə pin′yən, ō-)

noun

1. a belief not based on absolute certainty or positive knowledge but on what seems true, valid, or probable to one's own mind; judgment

2. an evaluation, impression, or estimation of the quality or worth of a person or thing

3. the formal judgment of an expert on a matter in which advice is sought

4. LAW the formal statement by a judge, court referee, etc. of the law bearing on a case

intelligent Definition

in•tel•li•gent (in tel′ə jənt)

adjective

1. having or using intelligence; rational

2. having or showing an alert mind or high intelligence; bright, perceptive, informed, clever, wise, etc.

3.

a. designating or of a terminal capable of performing certain functions with the data, independently of the computer

b. equipped with a microprocessor or computer an intelligent missile

4. ARCHAIC aware (of something)

Etymology: L intelligens, prp. of intelligere: see intellect

unintelligent Definition

un•in•tel•li•gent (-in tel′i jənt)

adjective

having or showing a lack or deficiency of intelligence

• unintegrated

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Enjoying this debate where do i start.

Let me start with what i think on your first post before i take the issue of Palin.

I agree that abortion and war are 2 different issues and wont attempt to mix them up.

My arguement is this, being Pro life shouldnt only affect views on abortion or when life starts. It should also affect when it can end, and how it should be preserved. Then if i take a pro life stand then i should be extremely careful when i choose to send troops in harms way to die. You talked about the Iraq war i share your sentiments, it was unjustified.  

The arguement goes beyond that, what are the views on how life is preserved and nutured health care, then how is that pursued.

I agree with you am a christain, born again and my beliefs are guided and inspired by the bible, but i know i have fallen short once or twice so i know it happens. Keeping a child like in d case u mentioned (molest) and to me it extends but i will leave it at that. I shouldnt be instrumental to ensuring that people don't have the choice to do what they want to, i can show them the options but also ensure they have options.

On tax and all, theres no hatred on rich folks, but theres inequality and perceived bias when u cut dividend income tax and cut personal income at maybe d same rate or dividend income even more, (i don't have Bush's figures) the impact is felt more on the salary earner. Warren Buffet explained this when he said his secretary pays more tax than him in propotionate terms, ie tax as a percentage of what he earns, and hes not a salary earner.

Finally on the bankrutsy, Dems manage the economy better example clinton and history shows that, I believe President Clinton was lucky and takes more credit than he deserves but credit to the guy he left the US in a surplus.

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Whoever the incoming president will be, he will not have the power to overturn Roe vs. Wade anyways. I don't think at any time America will revert to pro-life. So for me the politicians stand on an issue is simply to inform me of his/her morals n beliefs - because they cannot bring to pass 95% of the promises they make anyways.

I do not see though why you think Palin's daughter is an issue.

Her daughter is NOT the one running for office. Her daughter has never been on the political frontlines. Why should the daughters choice reflect on Palin's qualification to be VP? ignoring every other major accomplishment, and applaudable deed the Gov has done, people are choosing to dwell solely on this pregnancy and dismiss Palin as unfit. It makes no sense to me.

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Most folks try their best as parents, but the kids don't always turn out the way parents planned.

They might reject their parent's values. They might make mistakes. Does that mean parents have "failed?''

I don't care about her family. . . . .Just lower people's taxes and gas and everything will be alright.

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I always get the same response on blogs from republicans, if i wasnt a Liberal i know i definatley wont lean towards the right, their arguements cant be presented clearly, its always clouded.

The other day Obama sated the arguement clearly this preganancy has helped shaped it in reality."if we cant agree on abortion at least we can agree on keeping teenage pregnancy down". So why should the arguement be shaped as simply pro life or pro choice, when does life start. When its not quite simple, personalities and behavioural patters affect societies that people face problems everyday they didnt plan for so what happens when it comes.

Bristol is lucky she's from a supportive and comfortable home, what happens to d girl that her parents cant even afford to pay their bills still in high school, what should she do, should the effort have been at preventing it not only by abstinance which is part of it any way but also that she can decided to use condoms whenever she faces d decision.

Am not sympathetic at all she deserves it all. Sorry am diverting here, Please where are John McCcains kids? if any. SO much talk of family values show us your family, we are way past what he did to the first wife at least he regrets it, but what father role did he play in the life of his kids.

@ Jeseoul thanks for your response.

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That would depend on who amongst them is running around with the belief the schools should teach kids abstinence-only.

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If the teen daughters of George Bush, Al Gore or the Clintons had gotten pregnant while they were running for office, would there be such intense focus on their fathers?

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Ok. Facts say so but they were not presented.

If you dont want to post dont its not by force. I am okay with your response.

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Agreed theres more, but we were kind of looking at Palins daughter being preganant and so what? We know the stand of the 2 camps on the issues lets not attempt to turn this to a foreign policy or green thread.

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And this policy is supposed to be America's greatest problem as we speak??

Cynicism infecting every corner of American life??

A tectonic shift to a multi-polar world??

A collapsing educational system??

Iraq War??

Credit Crunch??

@ Khai-Khai,

Move on already, will ya?

Stop taking us 19 steps backwards with ur spastic comments.

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Thanks Jeseoul, my question was do u lean towards the right if you do attempt to respond to that post of sean.

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@Hannibal

Your insulting posts show you are immature. Everyone can't have the same views.

You can choose to come at me with your childish and dumb insults, I will not bother replying them.

Grow up! Enough said.

@Kobojunk

You know people have the right to their opinions, which do not have to be the same as yours. That's why in politics, there is the left, right, independent, etc,

In religion, you know what sects there are.

Try to make your point as you sometimes do, instead of the narrow-minded belief that anyone whose views differ from yours is unintelligent.

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*comes back from behind the scenes watching the debate*

what's the question?

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Nope,  Logic Warped cause the FACTS SAY SO. I am not having a debate with you. Simply answering you. I am sorry you came late to this but I am not going to start over just cause you want to debate now. There have been at least 100 posts on this topic already. Go read them please. If, However, you choose instead to believe I can not refute your argument, then I am ok with you thinking that too.

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Okay in other words you can't answer them. Logic warped just because you say so. Show the fallacy in the logic.

Yeah i asked Jeseoul, at the last count u were not Jeseoul or are you?

We are having a debate here if can't refute arguements then i guess its obvious where the intellectual laziness lies.

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I asked why you care cause you seem to put so much weight in wanting to know if I lean towards the right and yet again I see you asking if @Jesoul leans towards the right. Anywho, I believe the reason is cause the logic behind the questions is warped and so I instead thought it best to leave the person to his/her beliefs rather than spend my own time trying to help the person understand why and how it is warped thinking.

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This was quite early enough in the debate so i dont get the "tired of trying", anyway if thats the way you feel. And why do i care, I really dont, its a debate if u choose to answer or not, will not give me a pass to the federal reserve. I just saw this thread and scanned through and noticed that no one answerd those questions.

In addition Jeseoul pls if u lean towards the right, pls can u respond to the question.

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I am sorry but that disconnected logic is not going to fly here. By the way, that post of yours still remains RUBBISH. I am sorry but that was no view but just you posting RUBBISH cause you can! Trying desperately to blur the lines between that which is intelligent and that which is silly is not going to fly. Try again!!! ROFLMAO!!!

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@ Kobo

Your footnote which is supposed to reflect your belief system contradicts what is obvious to all, that you are not always open and objective, regarding an opinion that differs from yours as RUBBISH.

U live in your own cocoon and your views are not universal.

@ Hannibal/cannibal

I'm done with you.

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In my opinion it matters that Palins daughter is pregnant. The reason(s) as others have stated in here is that it is a clear testimony that her policies dont work. The policies has failed right in her home.

So what policies as a nation should the government follow. If Palin refuses to acknowledge that children will on the average not listen to their parents, and that they shouldnt know the alternatives no adequate preparation to prepare them, i do not pity her, in short i hope the younger daughter is not pregnant already.lol.

If she is agaist teaching sex education in school, then fair play she got what she deserves. A parent should enlighten their kids to all the options, the decision is for the child to make, but at least when or if they decided to err, they know theres something called a condom that can protect them or the other options available.

All this pro life debate and republican arguements is all intellectual laziness and in my opinion could be linked to bigotry and hypocrisy.

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New indications emerging on the dude that got her pregnant on myspace where he clearly said he does not want a baby.  

So who are this republicans fooling?

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Why do you care? I do get tired trying to help people see past their noses. Some posts that are not worth responding to. However, feel free to indulge her.

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the typo there shows how irritated I am with ur pointless postings. Am sure u and lilkim are from the same village.

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@ Kobo, how come i didnt see your response to this post from Sean in the first page. I would like to see how you respond to this, am assuming you lean towards the right or towards replubican ideology so please can u respond to this.

If my assumption is wrong, ie you don't lean towards the right, then in your opinion how can this be explained.

I watched the RNC convention ystday and little mention of the economic crises, its all talk about the past, like a valedetory convention of a man that we are supposed to believe spent his life in service which service??. Yeah he is a war hero thank you sir, is that all?

Geez what about the future. Even watched a war movies thriller.lol. Must it be all about war with the Republicans?

Jesus Christ. Why are you getting God involved?

Its simple, The republicans do not practice what they preach.

1. The Republicans are Pro- Life yet they support the war.

2. They say they do not want the government to be involved in People lives but yet enforce the patriot act.

3. They accuse Dem's of being spendthrifts but yet cause the country to be bankrupt.

4. They support the wealthy by cutting taxes on the rich

5. They believe in freedom but yet try to push the Christian beliefs on everyone. What ever happen to Religion being left out of politics. Didn't Jesus say "“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”

Is this the party you favor KOBO?

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please, is there a way I can programme my pc to hid any posting from Hannibal?

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please is ther a why i can programme my pc to hid any posting from Hannibal.

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Why are you people eating hannibobo for his opinion? Is it a crime to have an opinion in nairaland again?

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Even fools do seriously doubt. . . . . .

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@Hannibal

I seriously doubt if you can really differentiate between an intelligent post and an unintelligent post, given ur last few responses.

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Eat ya heart out, madamkoko.

Who cares what u think?

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@ ebariba  

Hannibal normally and usually has nothing of worth to add to posts/ conversations and rathers, insults and curses.

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