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New Naira Notes! Arabic Is The Reason?

arabic will be back on those notes, who wants to bet? that is the only reason those morons are RE PRINTING the same currency they printed last year, all other excuse is just talk. watch out.!!!!! wasting money on nothing, foolish people.

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new naira note is not Nigerian problem for now, we need good governance.

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Gentleman no dey for pollitics. If there was, you guys could have

been more receptive and sensitive to opposing views, cultures, religion and politics.

Not this holier that thou, i better pass, i know pass , hypocritical nonsense

on the pages of NL. Any alternative view is visited with abuse and disrespect.

Happily, it is a free world and by design or default, cyberspace is face less,

SOME PEOPLE FOR NO GET CHEEKS AGAIN BECAUSE D SLAPS DEM GO GET

It is this type of warped thinking that shapes opinions into thinking that PDP is the

best political party.

A good president can only come from a good party that has done its homework, in

such a manner that they operate in tandem with the legislature fr the benefit of all.

More importantly, the citizens must also be u and doing-- alert and ready to

correct any perceived wrongs. Not to be docile as we currently are. And the cause-

disrespect. With your noses up,you know better and cannot come down to the level of

other people , because of your rabid prejudices. You end up raving, heaving and ranting

on NL and fail ultimately because - you have only one vote and it cannot even wrap akara.

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We do not trust Sanusi down South and he has proven himself to be an agbero. Abubakar Umar will be very fine from the North; but the constituition says that if the president becomes unfit, the VP takes over. If the VP becomes unfit, the senate president takes over. Rotation will not work in such a case and like I said before, it isn't even in the constituition.

Rotation is a gentlemans agreement put in place to negate mutual suspicion.

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atleast we know sanusi is honest, brilliantly intellectual and non materialistic, if yar'adua is there,i see no reason why sanusi cant take over from him,we know he'd be much better than yar'adua!how would goodluck become president when he's not a northerner? we're saying that a northerner or northerners should run for the presidency after yar'adua's first term!!!yar'adua should go back to katsina and sip some nono and goodluck should go back to bayelsa and sip some palm wine,i actually he can go drink some crude oil for all i care!!2015 we'll back fashola but the south will have to figure out among themselves whether a candidate from the south south, south east or south west will be fielded!!

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^

99% of our leaders are useless. Thats why we are hear arguing about BS that should never have arisen.

Ndu_Chuks has been going on about bad leaders; I wonder if he can kidnap some or if he is one of the fu.ckers.

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@Beaf you dey try to be wayo man ko?

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Then Goodluck is the next president.

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I gree 100% with every ting wey you write, but I need to point out one ting. people forget say rotation wey apply to the office of de president na between north and south. many of dem tink say de ting go rotate go east or south south.

to those people, I say, goodluck.  una go need to first convince Yoruba man like fashola make him no run.  as Yoruba dem dey talk am; east ko midwest  ni, south south ko, south south east ni.

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--I digress--

Sanusi, the disaster? No way! Abubakar Umar is excellent.

But before we forget, there is no rotation in the constituition, so the VP will become president. If the VP kpeme, then Senate President will take over.

--Back to topic--

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So can you answer the below question in quotation, notabley the bolded part since you pretend not to seethe question?

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nonsense, i want yar'adua to go after his first term but in keeping faith with rotational presidency, major abubakar umar or even sanusi lamido should finish the 8 yr term which the north is entitled to just like how obasanjo had two terms equally as disastrous as yar'adua, after that, i support like many do the moving of the presidency to the south and i'll happily back fashola!!!

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@illusion2

why are you so stereotypical, your propaganda is evil.

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im not aware of any question "posed" to me, pose any question and ill definitely answer you in a direct and holistic way!by the way,stop calling people almajiri,the population of almajiris in the north is about .8% of the entire northern population so your generalization is sickening and a mere stereotype, it would be like a northerner calling you a cannibal coz thats exactly what people in the north southerners are, i remember many stories growing up as a child about southern cannibalism

(igbo and yoruba cannibalistic juju people) clifford orji, remember him? so i suggest you relax, there are millions of productive northerners who are intelligent/intellectual and good people.

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The rationale for this thread was not based on sound logic, but on tribalism and religious bigotry.

some of de posters blame fulani people for all naija problems. these posters dey too silly to realize say na bad leadership at federal and state levels wey dey kill nigeria. de governors of all de states for niger delta, for example, no be fulani. na de kind mindset wey dey wound us for nigeria wey de thread starter get.

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If Sanusi did not re-introduce Arabic text in the new Naira notes,  the rational for discussing this thread is now irrelevant.

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At last, So Sanusi didn't put Arabic? He must have been warned.

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Today is first of October,just a day after the new naira notes were released,I have just had my first feel of the 50 naira note on ploymer and having done a thorough look at the note,I fail to find any writing on it in Arabic.

So fellow NLs wat was all the fuss about?

@ poster i remembered I didn't like the topic of your post cos it was obvious you didn't read the papers then and didn't even listen to the CBN briefings.

But you can be forgiven if you say that Sanusi wants his name and signature on a Nigerian currency.

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, Misplacement of priorities!!!!!!!!!!!,

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so i guess you feel like you've won something, you're victorious right?i dont see anything wrong with arabic on the naira and i dont mind if theres no arabic on the naira,i dont think most average northerners care either way!

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there is arabic on the naira, i can read that stuff, its there so its not off yet,and it wont be off!!

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Let’s start campaigning for the impeachment of Yar’Adua now – he’s lame and ineffective. This way we don’t have to wait until Yar’Adua’s term runs out,

before getting Fashola in there. BTW do you mean until his first or second term runs out?

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@gadogado

You are a Northerner so you don't feel it; it has nothing to do with power rotation. The South does not compete as a block like Arewa.

Since you've brought up religion in your argument, what would you say to Hebrew text on the Naira?

Read what Reuben Abati had to say on the same issue.

http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/editorial_opinion/article03/indexn2_html?pdate=070809&ptitle=What%20if%20Arabic%20is%20inscribed%20on%20Naira

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these guys, you make me laugh, i have figured out that the only reason you are attacking northerners and claiming theres is a northern agenda of domination of the country is simply coz yar'adua is the president, as soon as he leaves, and the power rotation moves back to the south, you guys will stop talking about "northern agenda" in other words, you guys are simply competing for power which is healthy in a democracy especially in multi cultural societies like nigeria.

Dont worry, the power will come back to you eventually, north-south rotation of power will not be jeopardized in 4th republic nigeria, people are too politically aware for the north to dominate the country, so you guys should just wait your turn. what bothers me a little though is that unlike america where you have people competing for power based on ideological grounds (conservative and liberal) nigerians compete for power on the basis of region,religion and tribe (north and south) and those things are dangerous because they appeal to the passions and sentiments of people on a deeper level. personally, i would love to campaign for raji fashola after yar'adua's term runs out, fashola for president, or any other progressive!!yar'adua is a classical conservative elite and aristocrat, he believes in a rigid class structure of aristocrats and peasants or nowadays, elite and commoners.islam and christianity are not that different and they both come from the same region (middle east) the fundamentals of both religions are just about identical and the same God is worshiped (the God of Abraham and Isaac) so i believe you guys are merely politicizing something so trivial and petty lime arabic on the naira, does arabic on the naira change your religion? if you want to be broad minded then im sure you'll draw a conclusion that the religions are by and large the same and the same God is worshipped and if you disrespect islam then you automatically discredit and disrespect christianity, most of the Bible stories are found in the Quran.so why not be open minded and accepting instead of ignorant and petty??i guess thats the nigerian way.

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Like I said, if they put that Arabic back; things will burn. We will not accept any sort of internal colonisation, its gone on long enough. Even the blind can tell the notes apart, so mess the almajiri's.

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Na, that goes to gadogado by a very long shot.

IG is smart, but is emotionally attached to certain points (even against reason) like Mazaje.

Ndu_Chucks is not at all smart.

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@No2Atheism, since you are pan-Africanist and Black then I think where we differ is in the fact that you hate me, cos I am a Muslim. But I am a pan-Africanist and pro-black but unlike you I do not hate people just because we don't share the same faith, skin color or continent. The following quote is a long one and is targeted for the black man in you. Please be patient and read through it.

So, how far have you gone in researching about Arabs and Islam ?

Can we start talking now and keep the hatred aside?

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I don't think you guys have ever been to the north b4, the two writtens on the notes are English and transiliteration and sinserely most northerners do not understand them.A lot of them can not read Engkish and can read Arabic.

I think re printing arabic on those note will go a long way in communicating to them. so stop been sentimental about this issue, the notes will be cheaper, saves money for the economy and less rough handle by nigerians and if reprinted in Arabic will communicate to all

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@IG

Unfortunately i am not talking about discrimination against Christian Arab that is for another thread . . . most probably on the religious thread . . . cus that horse has been flogged dead and buried.

I am a pan-africanist and pro-black, hence i don't swallow any arab propaganda or western propaganda, because i am also an avid student of history hence i know what both arabs and whites have done to africans going back as far back as thousands of years.

Unfortunately, i have to lump in islam together with arab racism and subjugation of blacks becuase i have seen throughout history that arabs have used islam as a brainwashing tool to colonise people, brainwash them so much so that sincerely naive people end up even betraying their own people and tribes under the guise of islam.

I know islam is a false religion cus i have studied about it. I have researched it.

Europeans have basically done the same thing with Christianity . . . (another topic for another thread) . . . hence i don't support europeans either .

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Beaf - I agree with you. There should be no arabic, no hausa, no yoruba or igbo inscription on the Naira. This would be the fairest solution to all ethnicities in the country.

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I guess this deal will go no where since I am dealing with a dodger like you.

I have asked for your email countless times, so we can this up

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One more thing, the ancient Egyptians were black with strong kinky hair just like ours. It should be noted that it is customary for them to wear wigs and so you see the long hair in their paintings. But in case of the Nubians, no contest, full blown negroes. And we all know that Nubia gave birth to Egypt.

Guys, please lets not also end up becoming racist. What does it take to be black? Do I have to be as dark as my hair ? Are the ethiopeans, eritreans and somalis not blacks ? I know many Igbo people that have lighter skin than those east Africans. Those that make them not to be black. In order to avoid racism, we should be careful not to end up being racist ourselves.

lastly a site about black Arabs some of us might find interesting

http://savethetruearabs.blogspot.com/2009/08/true-description-of-prophet-mohameds_26.html

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@SapeleGuy, you said it all. All known civilizations in the world somehow directly or indirectly spawned off the ancient Nubian and Egyptian civilization. The earliest forms of writing also originate from there. The gnome desktop software project paid tribute to that fact by naming it's text rendering engine "Cairo".

Initially I avoided quoting prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) or the Qur'an because it will be of no use when talking to somebody that is proud to say the he hates Islam. But I am going to do that now for the sake of others who might be discussing objectively.

This is what the Qur'an said in suratul Houdjurat;

"Oh mankind, we created you from a single pair of male and female

and then divided you into nations and tribes so that you will identify

one another. Verily the best among you is the most pious

"

And yet people like No2Atheism claim that the Qur'an is a racist book.

Well, I guess we all have the right to our views (as long as they don't deny others their rights).

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Gadogado - I direct my question to you. To deny the early Kemetic/Nubian dynasties were the black africans is an an unsuccessful exercise in deception. Even the most racist egyptologist have given up on this line of attack.

The knowledge that is now ascribed to ancient greece and arabia etc was plagiarised from black africa. Christianity & Islam all owe their existence to black africa. Therefore the contribution made by africa to the world is immense.

I could go into detail but I can't be bothered. I shall leave you with an excerpt from Prophet Muhammeds last sermon:

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a

non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; white

has no superiority over black, nor does a black have any superiority

over white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and

good action."

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@ ALL

This still boils down to the need for a stronger alliance amongst the African countries save the Arabs. A truly Pan African state would no doubt come with its challenges, but it would unite all within the African nations the towards realisation of themselves and their purpose of existence.

The outside world ALWAYS thinks itself superior to the African continent, and whenever rather than help the continent to its feet, they feel content to always send in "food aid" a sign of perpetual dominance. We have to seek redemption through Pan-Africanism, i see no other way out now reall!

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you have made my day.

no wahala, may is still a long time, all the money you have lost this year is not enough, carry on, spoon!

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Does this theory of yours apply to islam because the black stone is erm black - I believe it is important in the religion. What colour is the ka'abba? is it white?

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df2006

Are we going to do this bet or not?

Stop beating around the bush and give me a bloody straight answer! fork!

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@no2atheism

Do you know where the term slave comes from, it was derived from slav. yes,the people that inhabit eastern europe and russia. once upon a time, they were being sold as slaves on a massive scale to the extent that a slav and a slave became one and the same meaning, the arabs,persians,scandanavians all traded in slavic slaves. does this mean that slavic people should hate the english language an western europe? ill let you think about that!

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there's a thread about this- google it and see if you'll find something.

On Hausa associating black with bad- that must be a carryover from Arab colonization, if at all it's true.

Many Hausas are quite dark, so your post doesnt really make much sense unless you consider it from the point of view of an Arab.

anyway, what does it mean to say a business is " in the black"?

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also that song has underlying meaning! why is it that no one likes a black bird but they all like white birds,give you my black and you give me your white clearly suggests that you have something desirable and i have something undesirable and i desire what you have (white) and i want to get rid of what i have (black) i dont know about yoruba language but in hausa, there are a great deal of terms that turn negative when the word baki (black) is put in front of them, ill give you a few examples

bakin jini (someone who is not likeable)

bakin ciki (bad belle)

lets move to english

blackmail, black heart, so my point is the word black is associated with negative things so what do you think the subliminal message is to a child, a grown up and to the entire culture, what goes on in the subconscious mind when people identify black with neagtive?if my skin is black then i must be negative if compared to a white person. thats the logic!!!!whether conscious or subconscious, the fairer the better, the darker the worse off. it doesnt take a psychologist to figure this out!!!

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@tpia don't mind the guy . . .

1. He is either an Arab living in nigeria and hence comfortable in talking like a nigerian

or

2. He is a nigeria experience shizophrenia hence pretending to be someone else on nairaland.

or worse

3. He is a brainwashed nigerian hell bent on degrading anything black.

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By the way Tpia, who are the Shuwa Arabs where do they come from and how do they relate to the middle east . . . .

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@tpia

of course you knew im not lebanese,why would i be on nairaland if i was?i just said that to mess with you and you called it immediately!so wonder why you'd bring that up, im from the northern part of northern nigeria,infact,after my village is chad republic but ive never been to that village and didnt grow up in that state!!

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those people in the picture above are north african arabs not black africans

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IG, im not so sure i agree with you in your analysis of sudan, you may be right in that the shuwa arabs or baggaras as they're called in sudan are fighting the black zaghawas in western sudan along with other tribes of darfur like the fur. but you somewhat imply that there is no racism and that there is propaganda. However, the sudanese arabs are racists (dont mean to generalize) but they do have an ideological motive for doing what they did/doing in southern sudan and there is racism when it comes to darfur.the shuwa arabs base their hate for the darfuris on race although i tend to agree that the severity of the racism is exaggerated by the western media. there is racism though

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@Beaf, seriously I feel your pain but the truth is that the problem is bad governance and not the region. If we cannot call our councillors to order, there is no way we can call our governors or senators or the president to order.

Remember the first republic ? It's true that the elections were rigged to bring the Northern Peoples Congress to power. But the NPC doesn't represent the Northern masses, NEPU was the masses' party but it was rigged out by the british colonial administration. So up till today, the northern masses suffer just like all Nigerians masses but additionally receive the hatred of some southerners simply for being northerners.

check the painting below showing black people trading a white slave. Things like that were common in those days.

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@IG

Simple question. If Arabs love blacks so much, why are there still black slaves in Arab countries to this day?

Remember that the worst enslavements were carried out by Arabs. Why, if there is so much love?

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@gadogado

You might be right about the general thrust of amanaonline article. Except for one subtlety; I'm more concerned about a Fulani branch (Toronkawa to which the Caliphate belongs) - not all Fulani. Therefore, your arguments don't hold.

These quotes from Northern sources emphasise the separateness of the Toronkawa from other Fulani and definitely; from the Hausa.

http://www.triumphnewspapers.com/ado7112008.html

http://www.gamji.com/article3000/NEWS3659.htm

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Let me make some things clear about the North and the Fulanis. Most southerners believe that the Fulanis rule all of the North. Agreed they rule most of the Hausaland but that is because the Hausas never woke up to the concept of creating empires and kept living in city state like Kano, Zazzau, Daura e.t.c. Before the fulanis, the Jukuns ruled most of those areas. it was a great empire. But empires rise and fall. Even after the fulani conquest there are some kingdoms that were ruled by non-fulanis. For example Bauchi is part of the sokoto caliphate with a majority fulani population but the ruling class are the original gerawa people up to this day. Zaria has three ruling families, the Zage-Zagi who are hausas, the Mallawas who fulani and the Barnawas who are Kanuri.

The Kanem-Borno empire has some significant fulani population. They are called the fulata-borno but they've never ruled and were still loyal to the empire. The instances when Borno was attacked by fulanis, those attacks were carried out by foreign fulanis from the hausaland.

Kanem-Borno at it's peak covered an area that starts from present day Jigawa state from the west extended into cameroun to sout-east, libya and sudan in north-east. The point here is that Kanem-Borno was a negroe empire that ruled over arab kingdoms. Like I said empires rise and fall. So the fulanis never ruled all of the North. In fact the sokoto caliphate is considered young at 200 years compared to Kanem-Borno which is roughly 2000 years old.

Now talking about Darfur, the truth is that there is nothing like Arabs against Africans. That is only what the western world and some of their middle-east cronnies want us to believe. It's an age old fight between farmers and nomads. The british colonial government set the precedence for this fight when they allocated land for each ethnic group but didn't give any to the volatile nomads. I think the media propaganda started when Sudan chose to do business with chinese Sina-Oil instead of western oil companies.

The people being reffered to as the opressed Africans are mostly from the Zaghawa ethnic group. This group form the ruling class in the neighbouring Chad republic. The president Idris Deby Itno is Zaghawa. The highest ranking sultan in Chad the Sultan of the Zaghawa. Don't forget that majority of the masses in Chad are Shuwa Arab living under Zaghawa rulership.

Going back to Sudan, it's interesting to know that the president Umar Al-Bashir is not even Shuwa Arab but traces his roots back to Nigeria.

The point I am trying to make is that Sudanese politics is not about Arabs vs Africans. It's just about holding on to power and controlling the resources. Just like any other part of the world.

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@no2atheism

Myself and IG have owned you, we have refuted and defeated every single brainless argument you made on this thread.It is now clear that you are

I. religious bigot

II. consumed with hate for northerners

III. ignorant

IV. need to go and learn more

See i didn't use arabic numerals either so you dont start senselessly ranting. but seriously, you are very very ignorant, you need to do something about it coz ignorance is a disease, go an find your cure.

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@IG

Forget about whether Arabic is alien to Nigeria or if it is a tool of Islamisation, of what use is Arabic on the Naira, if by far the vast majority of Nigerians cannot read it and don't even know if the inscriptions abuse their parents?

The North is the greatest proponent of "one Nigeria", but they are the ones who want to live separately with their own sharia, their own private inscriptions on national currency. Their own everything, while others do the donkey work.

Truth is patience is really running thin. If care isn't taken, we might begin witnessing horrendous riots against Northern attitudes within a couple of years, maybe even less. People are tired, it is a dangerous position the North is taking.

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