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Obama Visits Egypt. . . Obama Visits Africa. . . Is Egypt Not In Africa?

Slowly re-carting the geography and demography of Africa. In our struggle to act and be like the Europeans, we have enslaved our future to them .

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O, Afam preceded me.

Well thought-out thread.

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@Negro_Ntns,

Well done!!!

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There is no account (outside the Bible) of Jewish slavery in Egypt. The bible account is so flaky that the name of the Pharaoh is not given (hallmark of a fudge). Also, as you've stated; Egypt was in control of Palestine at the time. The brand spanking new land of milk and honey was Egyptian territory!

I admire your lateral thinking, you are right to point out the jumbling up of African history. The Arabs only ruled Egypt after 641AD, thats one point that usually gets overlooked (just like not a single Pharaoh has been found entombed in a pyramid).

The history of several Nigerian cultures is tied to Egypt; including parts of Edo, Urhobo, Yoruba and several others.

Keep it rolling.

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Thanks for these pictures. If you study Egypt's artifacts, especially the pictures and arts you can tell which is associated with where; Lower or Upper Egypt.

The first picture is ornamented, highly decorated and glossed in two colors golden yellow and blue. Rays of golden sun pouring down on a throne on which sits a titular head (crown) attended to by a maiden on whose head is a symbolic figure of the sexual organ of both the male and female gender. Sun represent life, vitality and longevity. It also represent enlightenement of the mind or knowledge. The color gold represent commerce since back then gold was the standard of weight and it equates to prosperity. The blue in the color stand for River Nile. In the Pharaoh times, River Nile had significance and more value than does the Mediterranean sea. Nile provided water for irrigating farmlands, the cattle grazed along its banks and its water is used for spiritual rituals to the gods. The ornaments represented trade and commerce.

The second picture was that of Upper Egypt. Notice the colors here. . . a lot of white. White represented purity. There is no visible sign of ornamental decorations or material prosperity here. Thats because priests live an austere life and they must be freed from any materialistic leanings. . . you can see that sign of austerity. Now, notice the monkeys. They are etched into the wall at the headstone of the tomb. Monkey represent wisdom or in other words the boundary between consciousness and unconsciousness. . . thats the state of death. . .a transformation stage.

Anyway, why do you say Jews were not enslaved by Egypytians?

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Oh, I didn't mean to raise anxiety that high and please forgive my approach. But yes, I will get to the point.

We cannot separate the history of Sudan from Egypt. Infact, Sudan was Egypt. Their division into individual and separate sovereignties is fewer in years than the age of their civilization together. I don't know if I should work it backward or work it forward. . .but in any event if you are lost to the point I am making please demand my clarification.

Far back when Egypt reigned as a superpower there was only one adversary that stood in their way and that was the Ottoman Empire. Trading routes were between Africans and the Asians. . .no one paid Europe any mind because they were still in dark ages. Thank God to the influence of Egypt from their South and Ottoman from their East, they would not have evolved to what they are today. How did that transformation come about? In many successive steps.

Sometimes the waning power of one Empire leads to an increase in the rising power of another Empire elsewhere. The Pharaohs were of Nubian origin and stock. This is undisputable. The Pharaohs had two capitals - Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt. Upper Egypt was geographically located in the Kushite territory along the Nile and that region is today in Sudan. Lower Egypt was geographically located further away from the interior and in the direction of Europe and is where today is the territory of Cairo and Alexandria. For strategic reasons, old empires never locate state capitals on the edge of their dominion. . .they were always locked inland for maximum shield against surprises. The Upper Egypt capital was the spiritual capital and the Lower Egypt was a trade/caravan route between Maghrib (Today Morrocco) and Syria and Persia (Today Iran). Upper Egypt is where the Kings and their Priests hold court and Lower Egypt is where the Ministers are stationed for diplomatic missions. Trade junctions were very essential to the commerce of an Empire and many towns and mega cities today grew out of such ancient caravan/trade junctions.

Egypt reigned over Palestine and into Assyria. There was nothing called Saudi Arabia then. Clashes between Egypt and Ottoman resulted in territorial losses. The Egyptians (Nubians - negroes like you and me) were the ones that enslaved the Jews. You have to wonder, if there were Jews in Europe and other lands and these other places were civilized, why did they not wage war against the Nubians to free the Jews? It's because there were only two civilizations competing over the region now called Middle East and neither one particularly cared for Jew and so Jew was the race that no one wanted to be or associate with back then. Kinda like the black race today. . .

Well, Ottoman Empire broke up into sub Empires and so did the Nubian Empire (Egypt). Out of these multiple break ups is where Persian Empire came from. . . the Roman Empire grew. In fact before Roman the Greeks existed and were adversary to the Persian Empire.

So what happened to Upper Egypt? With the growth and expansion of Roman Empire then you have sub Empires such as Britain, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal. The Nubians were the gate keepers of Lower Egypt up bordering Meditarenean Sea. When their Empire collapsed they retreated inland, down to Upper Egypt. What they had left further splintered into Kushite and Axumite Empires (Abyssinia). Haile Selassie was the last Emperor of that dynasty. Now, it was easy for Arabs to penetrate into Africa and enslave our people because the guardians of the outpost had all perished or abandoned station.

It was relatively easy for the Romans to penetrate as well and take over Lower Ehypt and establish their reign in the region. In addition with colonial rules. . . in their greed for total control of Lower Egypt and in an aim to re-write history. . . Britain was against Egypt and Sudan remaining one nation and so it worked covertly and succeeded in severing their ties and giving them individual sovereignties. Now, over the years and with castigation of black people as backward and abominable. . . just as the jews were treated in ancient times. . . the inhabitants of Lower Egypt began to separate from their black roots and associated with Arabs or Europeans.

Almost all the statutes. . . the Kings and Priests statutes that had Nubian features (Negroid) have been modified and given new appearances to match a rewrite of history claiming Egypt as land of Arabs or Europeans.

I know the response is rushed and kind of jumbled together. I will clarify any point if you want.

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Sudan is about 10,000 years old.  Please land quickly with what you have to say, I am very interested.

Sorry to have jumped the gun, but I am impatient to hear what you've got to say.

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My friend, every race on earth believe they are better than Blacks. Even amongst blacks, the light skinned believe they are better than dark skinned. It is a brainwash. The brainwash has to do with physical attributes. There is another type of brainwash - The brainwash of historical accounts.

I am glad you referenced both Egypt and Sudan in your response because I am going to change your view about Africa. The Africa that Imperial Europe know is not the one they are teaching you in school textbooks or written in public libraries and museums. Matter of fact, let me go ahead and declare to you that there exist private libraries and museums containing artifacts which are foerever closed to the public and is nonetheless funded by public tax and managed under custody of public trust. Access to them are limited and highly restricted. The Vatican has one such libraries in its vaults. You must wonder. . . if there is nothing to hide, why the secrecy and restriction to historical records. hmm? You ever wondered that far in your mind?

Let me ask you a simple question. How old is Sudan?

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I don't know any country in West Africa that qualifies as a model or torch bearer for progress and stability. If asked to plan Obama's itinerary for Africa I would pick Tanzania as his first visit. Tanzania is not immune to all the problems that most other African countries have experienced but Tanzania is about the only country that has transformed itself significantly and successfully.

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There you go. . . you just proved the point that the continent is partitioned.

Besides, you don't go to Ghana to deal with sub saharan Africa. What significance is Ghana to the stability and progress of sub-sahara Africa.

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Looking at it from another perspective, he was in Egypt to deal with mid eastern affairs. He is in Ghana to deal with sub saharan africa. Two different themes.

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