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Should The Us Be Blamed For The Haiti Earthquake?jesse Ventura Speaks-

Jesse Ventura in his new TV show Conspiracy Theory investigates HAARP which is housed in a massive 35 acre, 180 tower complex in Gakona, AK.

Watch video @ http://www.emmablow.com/

USA playing God on other helpless Countries, if this is true, well i hope it's not!

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@Sam,

You obviously don't learn from what you read, else I wouldn't have had to correct you on the same issue with your last 3 postings.

If you think I'm silly, why then do you attempt to debate with me? You know it does not reflect well on your self-proclaimed intelligence when you insist on debating with a silly person.

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actually you are very very stupi.d.

i was just trying to quench your ego so you dont keep fighting with negro.

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@Sam,

First I was silly, and now I am not. You are confused men!

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@Tayo D.

You are not silly. Lets just put it that you are trying to debate what is beyond your knowledge.

And naturally, you wont get anywhere since its not your area of expertise.

Dont be offended by Negro's Post. He is pissed because you are clearly demonstrating lack of knowledge on the matter at hand and you are trying to defend it because you have access to this forum. Once again, You are not silly.

One question for you and Razur like i asked on the other topic.

Did you know about HAARP prior to Haiti Earthquake ?

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@Negro,

You have finally proven me wrong on one issue. I never knew that one person could corner as much stupidity as you have done until your last posting.

I'm sure you wont have a problem giving yourself a pat on the back since you are used to singing your own praises from lack of receiving any from people who count.

Carry go. Your life mission to be the most ignorant "intellectual" is now accomplished!

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Sam,

we have here, in these two, what William Lynch, in his famous literature about breeding "asses" called "backward facing donkeys".

they cannot sort out the fundamental knowledge of numbers.  Since they were facing backward, their teaching was done backward.  I am not sure if they were taught that 1 is a "natural" number . , . or not!  i am bewildered that they cannot concile "natural and truth" as one and the same.  

I need to talk to people with your kind of mind. . .they don't have to agree or be on same viewpoint with me. . . .as long they are not "backward facing donkeys", cool!

El Razur and El Tayo, see yall again when your head is sitting on your neck and not in your butt.

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Tayo D it seems you hardly understand things. how old are you ?

I need to know because i might be dealing with a teenager who is addicted to MTV.

@RAZUR. Yep Thats Ron Paul. I knew him long ago.

Thousands of Decisions America took went wrong and guess what, he voted against most of them.

He got vindicated many many times and that gained him his popularity.

America, as the leader of the modern world, needs to take strong decisions that will not favour many countries.

We all know that. But that doesnt mean that we have to keep quiet each time they take such decisions.

People voted to invade Iraq. Ron paul and obama voted against it.

Obama's vote took him to the white house.

Ron Paul who also voted against the war now looks like a bad person to you.

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Tayo D and Elrazur.

Cant you see both of you are pretty immature to argue with Negro.

Clearly You did not understand what Ron Paul, an elected congressman said.

You claimed on the other thread that Collin Powell blaming US for Haiti problems was his personal view.

What about Ron Paul ? His personal view too. That makes one wonder who is America if not these people.

Like Negro said, we have not said that US caused the Earthquake.

We are only Investigating leads provided by people. By doing that, we may stumble upon a truth.

We want to be prepared to receive the news if and when it happens.

You should be doing the same thing if you want to learn.

Trying to make people see you as a clever intelligent person here wont help you at all.

It is safe to assume that you never knew anything about Haiti and US relations until after the earthquake.

I am beginning to suspect that you are either stup!d or just a mad guy with access to the internet.

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While you are at it. Please explain these in reference to your blantant lie of how an earhtquake test goes wrong:

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Say what?

1+1 =2 is a mathematical fact. You . It is backed up by proof, and in working application.

On the other hand, you have said 1+1 = 32 [then claiming it was taught by alien to Nasa scientist all in one breathe] is a lie and nothing but a conspiracy theory. Especially when no evidence to the contrary are forth coming.

In the mean time, go and dig out more of your jargons. I will be waiting. What a Muppet.

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@Negro,

This is turning into a comedy of errors. If 1 + 1 = 2 is not a fact, what is it then, fiction? speculation? Manufactured news?

A fact can be measured, always consistent and can be confirmed at any time. The same cannot be said of the truth. 1 + 1 = 2 is a fact given the assumption that we are working in base 10.

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Razur, I see. . .

Facts exist, . . .separate from Truths!

1+1=2 is a Truth! If I say 1+1 is not equal to 2, that does not make me a liar or a conspiracist.

I want you to first understand that then I will give you the next line of thought on that equation.

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@topic,

If the US has such capabilities, why haven't they destroyed Iran the same way? What about North Korea? The United States' headache could be easily eased by engaging this weapon of geo-cataclysmic destruction right away.

And by the way, if the US has abilities to create such enormous power, why the energy crisis?

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It appears you are pre-conditioned to talk drivel. And in the process of executing such moves, you have a secondary mission of disagreeing with anyone who tries to be logical by claiming superior intelligence etc.

Since you have an underlying mission to disagree with most. Do you mind explaining to me what you consider as fact?

Here for example 1+1 = 2. It is a universal and undisputed fact. But since you have a different approach I am guessing you can teach me a few things.

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Razur, you are conditioned to think everytime you hold conversation or have a dialogue it must be anchored in facts.

What is fact? I asked you this question elsewhere and you defaulted to external authorities as your source of facts. Tell me what fact is.

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Once again you have shown that when FACTS are required, you are quick to bicker. How in the name of common sense is what you posted relevant to any of the post I made above?

Seriously, the more I read your post, the more I feel there should be a Sticky post about how to debate and the ethics of debating online.

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. . .pushed to the corner, you are changing your posittion. You are also inserting inferences in what you assume to be my intent.

You are new in Haiti/US political dialogue. . .and so I excuse your missteps. I will engage witth someone who is intimate with the turf.

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plenty assumptions in your response.

first, I never said US caused the earthquake and I never said anyone did but based on the evidence on ground and my understanding that a naturally occuring quake has a distinct signature and that Haiti quake did not follow that signature, couple that with alternatiive view that this might be a HAARP hit and given my familiarity with US bad behavior I raised questions.

I dare you to quote where I said US caused the quake.

Second, on the point that I accuse US of occupying Haiti, I don't know how else you will call it if US hovered helicopter over Aso rock and air drop Marines in full combat gear on the premise.

The Congressman is saying the same thing that some people are claiming that military deploy is a good fit for relief effort in Haiti and that he disagrees and oppose that view. He said this is an open-end commitment. In other words, US will write its role flexibly as things move along. He blames Clinton (which I and couple other people have done) and Bush for their past attempt to do nation building in Haiti but the interventon and mismanagement was wasteful.

People who are familiar with this hisory are upset and are skeptic of US intervention this time around. I am one of those. . .and so is the Congressman.

If you say I'm spinning conspiracy theory and a hatred for US, wouldn't that place the Congressman under the same light?

. . .and I hope you know who Ron Paul is, he definitely love the country and he is a dissenter. Skepticism is different from conspiracy. Don't cry conspiracy just because its a buzz word. . .and eeryone is using it. more important becareful about making assumptions and quoting people out of context.

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I encourage you to read that opposition again. Make sure you understand it before you respond, Get a second opinion to assist your understanding before you say anything else.

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Beaf, how's life treating ya?

Jesse is a theorist wannabe! There are genuine theorists and this guy gives that cult a bad rap.

I watched his tv show once and that did it for me. . .the prophecy of 2012.

Without even putting on my analyst hat. . .I still had on my "silly prospector" hat when I watched it. . .and I couuld see all the missing dots. When dots are missing then connections are impossible.

Keep on keeping on my friend!

Razur, I see you are leaving an awful odor everywhere you go. You stink! Dissenting with the general acceptance and order of things is not necessarily a conspiracy. Many such dissents in past history has brought benefit to mankind.

When you are in a heated debate with an opponent, remember never to play your winning hands too early. . .like a game of card, you keep your aces close to your bosom and play them only when you are ready to close the table. It seems your obsession against dissenting voice is getting out of hand when you conclude it must be a conspiracy or because it is not supported by facts then it must be fictitious. So, I throw an ace down on the table here for you and please respond and tell us if this is conspiracy or a fictitious person.

The House of Reps has received proposition 1021 from Congresswoman Maxine Waters of California expressing Condolences to The People of Haiti and here is one of their member's response to that proposition.

Statement of Congressman Ron Paul

United States House of Representatives

 

Statement in Opposition to H Res 1021, Condolences to Haiti

 

January 21, 2010

 

I rise in reluctant opposition to this resolution. Certainly I am moved by the horrific destruction in Haiti and would without hesitation express condolences to those who have suffered and continue to suffer. As a medical doctor, I have through my career worked to alleviate the pain and suffering of others.

Unfortunately, however, this resolution does not simply express our condolences, but rather it commits the US government “to begin the reconstruction of Haiti” and affirms that “the recovery and long-term needs of Haiti will require a sustained commitment by the United States….” I do not believe that a resolution expressing our deep regret and sorrow over this tragedy should be used to commit the United States to a “long-term” occupation of Haiti during which time the US government will provide for the reconstruction of that country.

I am concerned over the possibility of an open-ended US military occupation of Haiti and this legislation does nothing to alleviate my concerns. On the contrary, when this resolution refers to the need for a long term US plan for Haiti, I see a return to the failed attempts by the Clinton and Bush Administrations to establish Haiti as an American protectorate. Already we are seeing many argue that this kind of humanitarian mission is a perfect fit for the US military. I do not agree.

Certainly I would support and encourage the efforts of the American people to help the people of Haiti at this tragic time. I believe that the American people are very generous on their own and fear that a US government commitment to reconstruct Haiti may actually discourage private contributions.

Mr. Speaker, already we see private US citizens and corporations raising millions of dollars for relief and reconstruction of Haiti. I do not believe the US government should get in the way of these laudable efforts.

I do express my condolences but I unfortunately must urge my colleagues to vote against this resolution committing the United States government to rebuild Haiti.

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Thank god that people are taking on board the point I made originally. Well done Beaf. It sucks when people keep talking trash. It get to a stage where silence may just be the best approach. REF: Sam milla and Negro_Nts.

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There is stup!d physics and then there is even more stup!d physics.

The earthquake in Haiti measured 7.3 and levelled the whole island. How much energy do you think was required to do that? It would have taken a nuclear weapon to create a similar level of destruction. How does any rational mind conclude that shining radio waves into the ionosphere can cause an earthquake, in fact it is very far fetched to imagine that the power of a nuclear device can be shone into the sky and somehow go unnoticed by satellite systems, mobile networks, weather prediction systems, advanced militaries etc? Abeg free me!

Jesse Ventura should go and sit down or go back to his theatrical wrestling antics.

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