Uganda just passed a bill condenming gays to death penalty. what do Y'all think?
thats just totally inhuman. this just proves how backward Africa is. every one has the right to express their sexuality just as we all have the freedom of speech.its even more funny coming from an African country like Uganda who have soooooooo many other more important issues to focus on. homosexuality should be the list of their problems now. its not like i support gays but its an issue of morality which has nothing to do with nothing to do with politics.
@ Ranks yes I am a Christian and while God warned us not to join people in sinning he did not tell us to kill people on his behalf.
Homosexuality is not a sin against man because as long as its done by two consenting adults it's their problem not yours.
By the way why dat means than fornication should as well be a capital offense.
Are you sure you're a xtian??
I never wanted to answer you but the highlighted part of your message forced me to do so, God created man in his Image and likeness, I hope you should be able to decipher the two. That's makes any sin a sin against God. But the sin against man is, one committed with your body, an image of the sovereign Creator and humanity representing man, you have sin against yourself most importantly, and extending it to another, is a sin against the fellow and humanity. Okay. Look read the new testament the epistles of the apostles, you will learn that you will be punished is you lure anyone to sin, a punishment for your victim and you,
So tell me why it is not a sin against man?
@ Ranks,your statment about animals is incorrect.
Homosexual courtship between two males is actually quite common in giraffes.Homosexual relationships occur with about 50% of all male giraffes, while only 1% of female giraffes engage in same sex relations.
So many we should kill all giraffes too
Nope, nope brother, when I remember they are sects of humans mastering the act of sexual perversion, I think my children my generation my unborn individuals, I will deploy all tactics to make sure kids and my kids kids stay on course without mingling with this viper. The family blood must be clean as it is. Yes quite true a bit, sometimes I can be impatient when it come to connecting my discourse. Thank you.
God never installed me on earth to make war with the fagz, if the gospel is not enough for them, their God stand to repay them.But have it in mind that Nigerians will be liberated from the present political oppression, It is not my mandate either it is that of God but if we join hands together to archive one accord, it won't be long when we'll realize our fate has landed us a mandate,
It bends towards justice
I have learnt quite a bit, I must admit. Although it takes awhile to get through your posts because they can be incoherent sometimes. Please don't take that personally. I don't mean it as an insult.
I think we'll have to leave this issue now. You believe your God has installed you on earth to deal with all the gays. You're well within your rights to believe that.
^^^Beg for understanding son, logical direction is missing in your replies, gather them
If God does not directly punish a man, he uses a man like you and me to do the Job, I quote David who said Oh lord set him an evil man over him, abi u never hear cunny man die, cunny man bury, or you not being reading the bible for instances where God divinely sets one man above the other to repay him or her evils, what happened to Saul and his cohorts, even when david refuse to touch the "Lord's anointed", what about Jezebel and the 70 sons of Ahab and Ahab the King, what happened to the King of Egypt, have you forgotten, just in case, God swore to make the Assyrian King over tightly strong to enable him conquer Egypt (world power of their tyme) and when he became too strong "through God" he began to brag wanting to extend his army to Israel, God killed 187 grand of them,
Don't forget Nebuchadnezzar when the was no other King to march his prowess God did it all alone, if man is not in place to judge, why granting mercy?
the only challenge in the case of Uganda law polity, is involving an innocent soul.
Lastly, what is Justice? Justice and Mercy are two different things, the word mercy is divine not in mans making.
I hope you have learnt alot
We can argue religion if you want. To be clear, I am a heterosexual, christian male who doesn't agree with being gay and regard it as a sin.
Having said that, If the brand of christianity you subscribe to is the intolerant kind advocated by Pat Robertson and his ilk on CBN, etc, then this is a debate I'm very happy to have.
This punishment you refer to here, is it to be meted out by man? - or is God the final arbiter of this your justice?
I'm sure you will quickly refer to sodom and gomorrah. Was it Man or God who destroyed the city? (it was God by the way).
- Why do we as men suddenly think we can do God's work for him?? How are we different from the Taleban and other such extremists who claim to kill on behalf on their God? - I'm sorry o. My own God came and died for me. I dont need to blow myself or anyone else up for him - gay or not.
You use all this simple equations to trivialize something that is pretty serious and widespread. If we killed everyone who sinned (make no mistakes about it - sin is sin o.), gosh i really wonder who else would remain on this earth. You go on and on about this your justice. Where is your mercy? - people who bleat on and on about justice without mercy usually need to be very very careful.
No wonder David said it was better to fall into the hands of God but prayed not to fall into the hands of man (2 sam 24:14).
Guy, think about your position again please. Kill all gays? - ALL ?? - remember that african saying about those who point one finger at others!
Guy, nobody forming rambo here. Sometimes passion runs high. Thank God for people like you to help calm things down. I appreciate>
We're moving away from the issue though.
I respectfully asked you to explain to me how killing all gays was justice, since as you say, the arc of moral kinikan bends towards justice. I still await an answer
I do not know if you heard about the 700 club or CBN, atleast Mr. Oladukun won't come and lie to his veiwers, he once said over 1million Indecency sites are created daily, now tell me how can one challenge that fact, all were drawn from the new york police department,
You just took my mouth,
I am neither gay nor am I completely against capital punishment. There are some crimes in this world which really rankles and for which capital punishment can be argued. Simply being Gay is not one of them.
The highlighted portion above says it all.
Please exhibit intelligent and original thought and don't just feed yourself on TV only. "I saw it on TV" is not a sound defence of a position.
@sauron easy with omofat, I think there are two things involved,
1. Maybe he or she is gay,
2. Or, he has hates capital punishment
But there is one sentiment not shared, if you are not part of them, you'll always give a deaf ear to whoever cares to
exterminate the human race of homosexuality,
Why should we wipe everyone of them? The heterosexuals with HIV mind their own business and are less violent.
There's a strong relationship between homosexuals and violence - it has been proven time n time again.
In South Africa, gays punish all and sundry by deliberately infecting other people via Molesting or sodomising innocent victims.
Very, very true, I watch it on TV, also a survey was taken too, even in America
I would rather say I am simply shocked at your level of logical reasoning, Is sexual communication the only form of transmissing this diseases if she claims 85% of such transmissions is through homosexuality, is banning the guys you support their habit not a prompt way to stop the spread of HIV and their unclean act rather better than wiping the repentant fallen heroes and heroines of the fagot industries, I think we should leave them they have regret stories to tell, so that others will learn
By your logic, why don't we just shoot everybody that has HIV. You know, wipe them all out completely - Gays, Non-gays, children, the whole lot.
Infact, why stop there?, we should wipe out everyone with TB, herpes (common cold & the sti), and any kind of communicable disease.
I repeat your ignorance is not only shocking, It is stunning!
You are a simpleton.
A[i]n[/i]al s[i]e[/i]x is responsible for almost 85% of HIV transmission and the fagz are the ones busting rectums here and there.
Ugandans are not classic dolts like you and if we factor the number of people HIV have killed in their territory, it is safe to put a death penalty in motion for any homosexual beast caught in the act.
If it irks you, start a civil war.
You know gay people force everyone in society to sleep with them. They are such tyrants!
Infact, you know HIV is spread by shaking hands, hugging and sitting down beside gay people.
HIV spread has nothing to do with heterosexual people having casual, unprotected sex with each other.
Your level of ignorance is shocking!
What will God do to a gay?
It is possible to say same what God will do to a thief also to a gay,
But what did the old testament say about homosexuality, an abomination!
and what is the penalty for an abominable act? ---- death of course so the Govt is on course!!!
even if Jesus brought in the a less stiffer way of God's old way of capital punishment, of a truth is just a due
process that would mutate back to the standard. Just time.
Finally, I want to ask God something: Is the Ugandan govt. right?
That's just too much, who are they to pass judgement on morality, gay people are not hurting anyone, why kill them. The government should have no business deciding how people chose to live their lives in the bedroom. So it's gays today, what next? BehindBased sex between a man and a woman? or should a law be passed that only the missionary position is to be allowed? pathetic. Uganda should worry more about it's failing economy.