Can anyone tell me the difference between Celeron, Centrino and Pentium. I'm still confused, somehow.
Can anyone tell me the difference between Celeron, Centrino and Pentium. I'm still confused, somehow.
heck no. amd on lappys arent bad, surprisingly even better than some pentium mobile offereings. run benchmarks on single threaded apps and see. right now dual cores are not fully utilized cos most apps are not multithreaded. besides amd's amd-v is better virtualization technology than intel and also amd is great for 64 bit systems.
The difference in these processors, apart from the core design is the size of the cache (L2 cache). Celeron has about 512KB cache, pentium M has 1MB cache, core duo has 2MB cache and core 2 duo has 4mb cache) So it boils down to what you use your computer for.
If you do multimedia work, then get at least a core duo with DDR2 RAM (1GB RAM)
Iif you do basic stuff, then get a pentium m with at least 512 MB RAM
If your laptop comes with Vista, make sure you have at least 1GB RAM on it. Vista is RAM heavy. And check the VGA card on it. select either ATI or Nvidia cards. The onboard Intel VGA cards are crap.
when the person's budget is low, i guess cache size isnt that much of an issue. Single core pentium Ms are too expensive for people on a budget, and almost impossible to use for someone who has gotten used to dual core. You *will* notice the extra thread contention. I'm typing this from a PM 1.86GHz and I have gotten used to a core duo 2Ghz. The difference is far more than 1.86 vs 2.0ghz. You DO notice the extra 'stickiness', so in my opinion a single core pM isnt really worth it, from both budget and performance standpoints.
But if u dont notice it, good for u
Yep, thats the biggest failure. The OP didnt understand my long post. I almost feel like deleting it now.
I just posted it cos so many people were giveing *mis* information. I'm hoping one of the 'gurus' here reads it and gets things clarified for himself so he gives better advice in the future.
As for advice to any laptop buyer, this is my general advice:
1) Ignore the word 'centrino' because it means nothing. Always check the ACTUAL specs.
2) take nothing less than core duo as main processor. If you are going for budget, go for Celeron, but consider buying an extra battery. It will still be cheaper than a core duo
3) Accept nothing less than 1GB ram, even if you are going for a celeron. NEVER accept 512megs.
4) If you are going for gaming, you must NEVER accept intel graphics. If you are not gaming and do not need 3d power, intel GMA is fine but not ideal- vista will be slower. ATI or NVIDIA graphics are more expensive but neccesary for gaming and the new glass vista interface.
5) Other accesories (hard disk, cd/dvd writer, bluetooth, wifi,screen,usb ports, internal speaker, TV out) are as per your personal preference/pocket
If you follow the above rules you should get a good laptop.
Remember, any laptop that has less than 1GB ram is a turkey.
Remember you should go for dual core. ONLY go for single core if you are on a budget, and in that case go for a celeron and NOT a pentium M, because you may not notice the difference with todays' workloads. Pentium M will give better battery life but the expense will be too high. You are better off getting a core duo at that point.
Stay away from AMD on laptops.
darkmanzero, in an attempt to show off his knowledge on CPUs ended up not helping the OP of this thread.
Seun, if you have a 1000 dollars or more, look for a Intel Core 2 Duo Laptop. It has the best battery life/performance ratio, it is future proof (being a 64bit cpu) and its performance rivals most desktop computers out there. Any Core 2 Duo system, no matter how lowly clocked it is, can run Vista with all Bells and Whistles.
If you have less than 1000 dollars then get an AMD Turion 64 Laptop. It is also 64bit but doesnt have the performance of the Core 2 Duo. But it has great battery life and make sure you get one with a dedicated graphics card.
But if you can spend 1000 or more you can get a really sweet laptop nowadays. Which is what I recommend.
think am going o have to put this acquisition on hold.cos am really now confused.mayb i'd get one of u people online and chat u as to wot i really need.bt u all have been really informative.bt really i need a good laptop that will take anything that i garbage into it.dnt need a computer that will hassle me with battery life problems too.gues the price doesnt really matter to me so far i get a strong lappy.cheers
Manzero, I guess I misunderstood the SS feature.
Note however, that I said I would always recommend a PM for whoever had the dough to buy it. But as far as price is a consideration, the difference inperformance - from my point of view - is not enough to justify the 3X increase in price.Or maybe I'm just overdefending my Celeron!
I do not know about the games you listed but how does Halo 2 compare?
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Speedstep varies your clock multiplier as you use the machine. That means that if I send a block of instructions to a ss-enabled Pentium M, it can change its multiplier on the fly and gain a higher core speed, with a constant FSB.
Your celeron uses Low Voltage Operation, which is a similar concept but only in theory. In this case, the switch is more mechanical than dynamic, and must be explicitly demanded, if not by software, by some form of hardware signal. It causes a change in core speed on an electronic level, slowing down ALL processes for the purpose of conserving power.You can select the clockspeed you want, and some nice utilities can help you switch low voltage on and off during use.
However , the net gain compared to speedstep is minimal, and since in most cases where LVM would be invoked, your lappy should have gone into standby anyway, the gains are usually minimal.
Dude. There are reasons why Intel sells celerons cheap. We all know they are nice processors, but trying to claim they are the equal of their parent processors is just futile and irrational. In the past if intel ever discovered a celeron was close to its processor in performance, for whatever reason, they would ARTIFICIALLY cripple it.
disabling half your cache is due to a hardware defect, but locking your multiplier at 24x, throttling your FSB and removing speedstep are DELIBERATE actions by intel because they know many of u wont do tasks that will make u notice that half your cache is missing.
PS: Serious gaming, eh? don't make me laugh. Call me when your maching can handle Oblivion,quake 4 and rainbow six:vegas.
My centrino DOES dynamically change the processor speed. I can even set the particular clock speed I want using the power management utility, and using the windows resource manager, I can follow its effect, But even that is not necessary, once it is running on battery power, programs that use a lot or processing power tend to slow up, because I SET IT THAT WAY TO PROLONG BATTERY LIFE. it does not wait to lower speeds after long periods of disuse. It lowers it once it is running on battery, or once i change the power profile.
Concerning the 512 megs and gaming, then we are no longer talking about processor power, but RAM capacity. I was comparing my Celeron M to a Pentium M of similar capability, and I could not notice the difference, wether I was doing serious gaming or not.
And let me say that I am a student, and when I am not working on my laptop, I am Gaming. Serious gaming.
well,u guys are really scaring me ooo.i had concluded plans to buy a laptop .its an LG brand.specification is as follows:
SPECIAL FEATURE: Smart Camera; LG labtop with an inbuilt camera which can be used as a webcam enabling you take picture, videos and send across the internet
*CPU: Intel Celeron M Processor 430 (1.73HGz)
*LCD: Fine Bright 14.1” WXGA TFT LCD
* Video: Intel GMA 950 Graphics
* Memory: 512MB DDR2
*HDD: 80GB SATA HDD
*ODD: DVD/CD-R/W Combo
*Wired LAN: 10/100 Integrated Fast Ethernet
*Wireless LAN: 802.11b/g NIC
*Window VistaTM Homebasic.
please really need a precise and objective appraisal of this laptop.also the review should include nigerian use.intermittent power supply and all problems associated with using a laptop in nigeria.i intend to use it heavily as time goes on.thanks in anticipation of ur replies.cheers
AMD processors are crazilly cool, if you need a good laptop, i'll advice you go for the Alienware Laptop, when i begin to write down the specifications i know you'll go gaga, well here it is.
Better still, read for yourself
To everybody in the house, please which computer desktop configuration is ok for home use. The specification must take care of the following: high speed, internet, DVD writer and rugged for children/parents handling. Do you advise on clone, Tokunbo or branded new one. Please present your explaination in clear english and not the usual broken english.
He was probably right all along but at this point, he's talking trash! unless of course you were'nt paying attention or you got carried away by the prospect of using an ultra modern laptop.
He was prolly refering to Multi Layer (or Double Layer) DVD +-RW.
Your processor speed has nothing to do with that, you can even purchase external devices to do that. Core2Duo is not only powerful, it emits less heats and thus conserves battery life.
It's relatively cheap, about $700 after rebate for the new toshiba with thumbprint recognition. Watch out for user reviews before you buy. Toshiba Satellite M series is bullshit, with no reset button and 95% thumbs down from users. That i think should come first!
last week i went to buy a laptop from one of the leading PC store in Europe, i intended buy centrino but when i went their i fund out that centrino is almost not available. what on board now from Intel is Dual Core 2 Duo i asked one of the Tech Guys they have their he told me that Core 2 Duo is the letest in computer processor. I ask how he told me that with special CD you can record on both sides which centrino and others cant do.
Pls i want to know if this is correct as i have not opened the laptop i bought yet which i can easily send back if actually he decived me.
From the little experience i have with computers, i think Celeron is ok for most home users, people who simply use computer to type,browse and nothing extra- ordinary.
Most celerons running on ,400 or 533MHZ and are slower and cheaper than Pentium.i think is idea for internet cafes.
Pentium or MMX as most pple call it in nigeria, is Multi Media Xtension its very good for games,graphics, Media ( sound & video editting) its faster cos most of them run on 800MHZ. i think its idea for pple who really do alot on the pc.its its very rugged as well, if u need to compare it with a celeron is like comparing a KIA with a Toyota.
Centrino , are faster, they are like newer version of Pentium, but the most important difference to me is There Batteries last much longer than that of the Pentium 4 , the pentium 4 are also heavier in weight compared to the centrino ( this is only for laptops).
My conclusion, My broda, sometimes most of this things dont really matter, it depends on what u do on ur pc. and the software u use on them, i beleive most of this manufacturers are just coming out with newer stuffs to collect our money, its just like cellphones, becos now, we have some newer models called duo core or is it core duo model coming out. i feel i can still do most of my daily work on a celeron without any problem.
Well said house.But i stil maintain dat u stay off anytin celeron for laptops.Dis is cos celeron processors require more processor speed for high end operations especially 3d gaming n multimedia in comparison 2 their pentium counterparts.Hence,they r more likely goin 2 produc more heat,shorter battery life 4 ur laptop n wear out more easily.So weda its a celeron,celeron m or celeron d,be weary.Bt i gues it all coms down to d use u'd b putting ur notebook to.
You do stand to be corrected. Celeron laptops are old. There is a new version of celerons that have been produced and it is called celeron mobile (celeron m). This takes in the short comings of the previous version into consideration. It cools well and works fast. I know a lot of people that use celeron M laptops and they have not been complaining. The only problem celeron m laptops have is the bad image caused by the previous version
10ks @inze.@karl,i once had an offer for a mercury celeron m 512mb 40gig for 60k.Gues wat?I turnd it down.Gues y?D same reason y d almost d whole world use windows os and few use linux.We r al usd 2 dell,hp n compaq.Atleast,u cn vouch 4 those.As 4 mercury,i dnt knw much.Its just like buyin a mitsuchaki or kawamuchi tv.Cn u get d parts.Do u trust d hardware.R there repair centres 4 it around.Think abt dat.
Well said Jwhizzy,
All u said stands correct, i use a laptop running on 1.73ghz, 256mb ram, 60GIG hard-drive, DVDrom and it serves me well as in processing speed and all that, just the fact that it generates lots of it when used over a long period of time (10 hours).
Asides that, you stand correct.
Celeron, centrino and pentium. From what I know, they all belong to Intel corporation.
Centrino is not a processor unlike celeron and the Pentiums (I stand to b corrected). Rather Centrino is a make up that has Pentium M as the processor and other add-ins. They are adjudged to be faster and produce less heat.
Celeron processors seem to have very high processor speeds but you can't trust them for high functionality like 3d gaming because they overheat. So a celeron 2.2Mhz for instance could b equivalent to a Pentium M wit 1.5-1.8mhz. So don't b decieved.
Suggestion: For your desktop, you can get a P4 or mayb a Celeron but gor your lappie, Pentium M is the best if you can afford it. If you can't, just go for a P3 or P4. For me celeron is a not good for a laptop because if your laptop ain't got 2 fans, then, you might as well be prepared to change the body pretty soon.
Centrinos are the machines from Intel that have Pentium M processors. Hope this is helpful?