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Which processors are better, the AMD or the Pentium?

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i am sorry for being rude but i still strongly recommend u check spec 4 spec. one thing for sure, ati has lost its flavor but not the way u think. like i said earlier, i am sorry 4 my earlier words. take care.

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Na2day?

There's no need for insults and mudslinging, I was only airing my opinions which I'm entitled to.

By the way, I run 3DMark and PCMark for benchmarking.

I've told you what I do with my PCs, I don't know any hard core gamer who uses AMD or evn runs ATI Graphics.

One of my desktops came with a Radeon (ATi) which I have since chocked,

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Cactus, I disagree a bit.

That is just a myth (processors not being a major consideration in setting up a PC).

Look at what they are saying in "PC Format" forums or even "PC Zone" forums. These asre the magazines I read regularly

I do a lot of gaming and believe me, that pretty much deifnes how I set up my PC.

I can't even consider an AMD because I don't even think the guys who wirte codes for the kinds of games I play even consider them,

Tell me which AMD can run FSX or BioShock,

If you just browse and do word processing, then maybe it might not matter.

But for the rest of us who do hard core gaming and everything esle, we won't even touch an AMD (or ATI graphics cards for that matter).

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Cactus, I disagree a bit.

That is just a myth (processors not being a major consideration in setting up a PC).

Look at what they are saying in "PC Format" forums or even "PC Zone" forums. These asre the magazines I read regularly

I do a lot of gaming and believe me, that pretty much deifnes how I set up my PC.

I can't even consider an AMD because I don't even think the guys who wirte codes for the kinds of games I play even consider them,

Tell me which AMD can run FSX or BioShock,

If you just browse and do word processing, then maybe it might not matter.

But for the rest of us who do hard core gaming and everything esle, we won't even touch an AMD (or ATI graphics cards for that matter).

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I generally use AMDs but Intels have always ruled the market. But anyday, gimme my AMD processor (been using AMD for 7 years now), Gigabyte board, 512GB+ system RAM (>333MHz), NVidia with 256MB+ dedicated RAM - we have a party!

Asides the Duo cores & Turioins (in which Intels outperform AMDs generally speaking), the corresponding AMD have always floored equivalent Intels, time and time again. Nonetheless, Intel will continue to outsell AMD 4:1 largely because people don't know better (AMDs are cheaper, quieter and run more efficiently). Also because it doesn't matter. Asides those of us who game, you're hardly likely to even nearly push your core to the limit.

Forget FSBs, pipelines, chipset types and so many other variables. While in truth they largely impact performance, they become significant for power-users, not the run-of-the-gamut everyday folk. Get it?

And thanks to other people who's posts have gone a long way to try to clarify things. Thanks to those who muddled things up as well - we'd be out of a job if it weren't for you.

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Just make sure you have enough RAM (512mb for Windows XP, 2GB for Windows Vista)

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the type of processor used these days do not really matter much. Both are great in their own way.

Also keep in mind majority of computer users, they

go online (email, community, etc)

chat

document processing (word, excel)

that is all majority of people use pc for

Obviously if you are into hardcore gaming, graphic design, photo editing, then you may be concerned about what type of process used.

Regardless of that, most people only do simple graphic design, photo editing and gaming, which both can easily satisfy.

It doesnt matter if you are a basic user, average user. Then people will say they are power users lol. No matter what type of processor you get, your computing power needs will be satisfied. except you are running applications for Nasa or something crazy. nothing much is needed.

You can pretty much buy any new computer these days and be satisfied. Major difference is in design, presentation, and packaging simple. and sony rocks in this aspect lol.

Previously people ask me I am looking for a computer, I want this much power, I want this much space. well I give them a good specification. But now if someone ask me what computer should they buy. My first question is always how much do you want to spend?

For $500 you can get a kickass system. to me for an average user it doesnt matter.

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marketing has nothing to do with performance. amd has the worse marketing unit but there cpu does well. as for ati, it had begun to suck b4 amd took it over. on the other hand intel is winning the marketing war but they also fired 10,000 of their staff because they were losing trying to beat amd on the price point levels.

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Hi guys.

Sorry I just saw this (I know it's been long forgotten).

But is anyone still doubting that Intel makes better processors than AMD?

Even in terms of graphics, AMD is loosing out.

After taking over ATI, ATI's market share dropped further, relative to nVidia,

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abeg, this is not rocket science, kindly go online to each of this companies sites and compare the specs. u look at the bus speed, the cache, clock rate. and pls if all u do is check email or microsoft word, ur amd sempron might just be all u need but with all said and done, amd is all the best performance for the money while intel has a better marketing force. u can get a quad-core or even a core 2 extreme and it will seem be slower than ur normal core duo or athlon 64 if u dont have apps that are designed to take advantage of the quad; implication, u just built an expensive junk.

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Christino ~ Nvidia did not acquire ATi. It was AMD that bought ATi.

[url]http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~110899,00.html[/url]

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Firstly.

AMD has sempron the equivalent of the world's "blablabla" Celeron.

AMD is cheaper than Intel, but is not the best in all.

I'm not here to argue. Personally, i prefer the AMD processor cos I have it, i've seen it work and i've cloned it for other people, but it's not better than the Intel.

The Intel Core Duo Extreme beats the AMD Athlon FX 64 by a huge margin but not in all aspects.

If you really need some tested results on these two, please log on to www.3dguru.com and see how both devices were tested extensively, from the Pentium 3.0Ghz to the Athlon XP upwards.

Intel remains the leader. It's like NVidia Vs ATi. Unfortunately, NVidia has acquired ATi, I hope Intel don't do that to AMD.

But I still love my AMD but next time, i'll go for the ones on the Apple MAC!

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Smelleron!!! Very funny. But saying a celeron is manageable for typing is an overstatement.

Take the Celeron 1.1GHz with 256k cache and 256MB RAM for example.

Using WMP11 to play audio takes an average of 5% cpu fluid

Using the same to play video takes btw 15% and 25%

Typing takes 1% lol

DVD breaks.

Get a 128MB Graphics card and GTAIII will play smoothly

ColdFusion Application Server runs well

Reading nairaland.com takes 0%

Moral lesson. I'm not an Intel-biased geek. but i do a lot of benchmarks like how long it takes a processor to calculate the value of pi to an accuracy of at least 2 million digits. Results, mixed. AMD and Intel outperform each other at one point or the other.

@ Kenniy, prove that a Duron 800MHz is better than a Celeron 800MHz.

Disclaimer: I'm not sayin the Celeron is either.

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See also: AMD vs Intel: Which Is Better?

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totally right max! for that condition only, atleast manageable!!

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Kenniy speaks my mind. dont use a smelleron processor whatever u do.

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well , about these i really would favour the AMD Chips because of most of the reasons above, but as a nigerian with little choice, i am currently typing these on a pentium 4! , y? of cause not the price, you simply wont get the AMD chips around. I coupled my system myself, had a swell time looking for Athlon XP 3GHz but , naa,

But for any reason,pls dont ever use a celeron, it is way too cripled for sny good,and thats a fact. Better to use P4 1.** than a celeron of 2.** ,better to use Duron if thats the direct rival!

pls any one know a store where one can get AMD processors at normal prices??

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@Maxflame

Spammer, so just how much are those guys paying you to advertise for them all over the Internet?

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If you gave it a little thought, you'd understand that HT is still bus speed. So, what's wrong with the statement that bus speed limits performance?

I'm looking for something to do? Yes, I'll give you something to do.

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OK i see you really need something to do? At least your computer knowledge is good so i don't know why you're so bored as to look for a fight. Now read carefully coz this is a copy paste from http://www.boxxtech.com/products/apexx4.asp check the link for more info.

Advanced AMD Opteron™ Architecture

AMD Opteron Dual Core

"BOXX’s APPEX 4 workstation is a perfect example of a breakthrough design which leverages the power of the leading-edge AMD Opteron™ processor technology to satisfy the exacting requirements of a community of professional users. With up to four Dual-Core AMD Opteron 800 Series processors with Direct Connect Architecture and industry-leading performance per watt, APEXX 4 will help to broaden the creative possibilities of digital artists.” Pat Patla, director of server/workstation marketing, AMD.

Now do you understand what i meant by not getting limited by FSB? Go and do your homework boy,

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Answer this,

Is hyper transport limited to the cpu, or is it a part of the motherboard data transport system?

The fact is, if your motherboard can move data slower (bus speed) than the cpu can crank it out, the cpu must slow down. This is common sense.

Otherwise, please explain is simple terms, what the role of bus speed is.

As far as shutting up, you're in for a big surprise. You haven't seen anything yet. You're going to spend the rest of your life defending youself. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.

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No matter how well your cpu performs, if your motherboard's bus speed can't keep up, then your whole system is impacted. Also, the L2 cache pre-processes data from the RAM, before it gets to the cpu. So, larger L2 cache means better performance. The only case where L2 cache doesn't matter is where DMA is in play.

Therefore, bus speed and L2 cache are vital to system performance, regardless of your cpu power.

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Any other concrete reasons beside being a conservative person?

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Being the conservative person that I am, I'll stick with Intel, whether Pentium or Celeron.

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Chairmen, you are still on this processor issue, I beg move on the issue is solved already

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you also have to consider bus speeds and size of the L2 cache

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Good article. Added to my archives. Might need it someday.

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What is the point of the discussion anyway?  With the kind of punch that processors pack these days, what does it matter what processor you get?  Unless you're a gamer, you won't max today's monster cpu's out.

Your main concern should be getting a mobo that allows plenty of ram.   

More ram->smother system.

My site http://www.oasisoflove.com is powered by a single amd athlon 4000+ socket 939 cpu.  4gb ram.  Sometimes during peak use, I run the unix command "top" to see how much juice is being sucked out of the cpu, but it hardly ever gets maxed out.  Yet it runs everything on the same box, including mysql, php, and a chat server.

Also, if you're into overclocking, you can purchase an inexpensive processor that can be overclocked, and overclock it to run much faster.

If you really want a smoking system, get sata hard drives, and set them up as raid0 array.

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After I carefully read through the site you recommended, It appears that this shows how good Intel is over AMD; but after a vivid look into the dialogues combined with test results on Intel versus AMD. I can see that AMD have an edge over Intel. Intel got the market and its strategies. There will always be differences in discoveries and achitecturer designs on this subject. For sure, there will always be a competition without an end. I like this competition because it enhace advancement in technology. Thanks for this spotlight Seun.

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See Why AMD-MHz don't equal Intel's.

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Computer users needed to be educated more that, it's not the name that matters in the processor but the job the processor can do and may be what you can afford. Intel Celeron spent a lot of money in advertisment and sometimes in Nigeria, regular computer user think there is no other processor than intel Celeron's (Pentium).

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If any of you are interested in a very thorough presentation of the different processor architectures, visit this site: http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu.ars

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SirKay wants to know the difference between Pentium and AMD Athlon and why we are Pentium crazy in Nigeria.

Intel makes Celeron and Pentium for SOHO users while AMD makes Duron and Athlon for SOHO as well. I kind of categorise celeron and Duron to be on the same ruggedity level while Pentium and Athlon also have same level of ruggedity. but experts have however found out that Athlon has what I refer to as bigger piping than pentium also they found out that athlon has a better caching compared to pentium.

Hmn you also want to know why we are pentium crazy in Nigeria. simple! it is what we see that we buy, Intel has made more inroad into Nigeria market than AMD. it is up to AMD to fight it out with intel, I mean these guys (intel) has patnered with Zinox, Omatek & co as well as these CAPDAN in Ikeja, So what do you expect. kajiko

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Do any one know the diff. in the Pentium Processor and other brand name like AMD Athlon and why is it that we are just pentium cracy in Nigeria? Are other processors good for cyber cafe also?

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