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Are People From Onicha-ugbo Igbo Descent?

Hi everyone,

I have a friend who hails from onicha-ugbo and does not discuss much about her town,

If you call her ''igbo'' she hates it, she simply says, ''I'm from delta, I am not an Igbo girl''

some other friends I met in that town too don't say nice things about Igbo people,

I'm a yoruba boy and I grew up to believe anyone who is not from yoruba and benin is Igbo,

What is the reason behind the confusion , My friends name are igbo and they don't like it when you

tell them 'Igbo'

Name like, Ngozi,Nnamdi, Nneka,Uche, Ikpada, Ifeanyi,

Their language looks like igbo and have igbo traditions,

At least, I hear them speak a bit of igbo(the ones i can hear) I also hear them yearning for thier own state.

My friends claim they don;t belong to the igbo, In fact, they don't like anything relating to igbo people according to them, But i believe to the contrary because i see them more of an igbo(except that they are not business inclined like a typical igbo people in lagos)

While I was there, I also noticed an arguement between a man from Agbor, trying to communicate to a woman from Onicha-ugbo. They could not understand each other's language, But why do some other people from Onicha-Ugbo speak and hear proper igbo language.(I mean the core Igbo)

What is the difference in these languages and these confusion,

I am now a totally confused yoruba man because I have read a whole lot abot these topic onlie and I a am now more confused than before,

Is it not like the yorubas, Oyo, osun, ogun, ondo,ekiti,

Why the confusion about the origin,

Can someone just tell me if delta, (onicha-ugbo peple are either Yoruba, igbo, or hausa, those are the major trines in Nigeria,

Which tribe are these people.?

Thanks

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For decades Biafra conflict went on and on and presently it gets escalated again. That might be a reason why some folks from this tribe do not wish to be called Igbo. They might be afraid of social disregard or persecutions. Or they may not be supporting their tribe and do not wish to be considered as a part of this social problem in Nigeria. In any case, you should not be judging a person by their tribe, but rather by who they are and how they behave. At the end that is all that really matters.

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@Uchobi, your silly post here is hilarious. First you come as a Biniman and telling us what you heard from probably your illiterate father. Later you said it doesn't matter we should all be united. If you all want us be united you shouldn't in the first place brought up the Bini crap.

Since when have we used our mode of dressing to determine who is Igbo or not?. Anyway, since you do not know anything about Igbo people and do not want to admit it, Aro people do dress like Ibibios yet they are not insane to say they are Ibibios.

Enjoy the pic of Aro.

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There is nothing complicated about onicha-ugbo. You saying that because you have a bini like administration therefore you are from bini,is like nigerians saying because we have an american system of government,therefore we are from america. Can you now see how silly that your line of thought is?Onicha ugbo having a bini like administration is as a result of bini imperialism on anioma,just like nigerians ended up emulating the americans,because of the british imperialism,it has nothing to do with being related to americans. The igbo tribes across the niger never had to face bini imperialism,so they retained their original republican nature,onicha people never had that privilege,not long after they fled bini led by ezechima and settled like other ezechima clans in anioma,the bini imperialists came calling,but onicha people would not subject to bini lordship,so they fought the binis,they lost,some of them fled to theirfarmlands hence onicha-ugbo,some went deep into bush hence onicha onucha olomina( onicha that fought and retreated) aka onicha olona, some crossed the niger river hence onicha mmili.

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I think the writer has asked a very valid question, one that many are not able to answer. I am from Onicha-Ugbo and I can identify with his questions. Our elders do not like to be called igbo and have taught us the same. the story is that we are descendants of the Bini kingdom. you can see many aspects of the Bini kingdom in our culture, food and language. Contrary to what someone had said earlier here, we do not dress like the Igbos. rather our cultural dressing, our cultural administrative practices (by this i mean rulership) tends more towards the Bini way of life. Infact I see more similarities between our culture and that of the Bini Kingdom than I see of the Igbo culture. I figure the similarities seen in the language are probably from cross cultural interraction with the igbos across the Niger. Infact, in the whole ika ibo area, the more you move towards the river Niger, the more you see of the Igbo culture and language and vice versa on the Bini end. i guess its pretty complicated and with our penchant for not preserving history in Nigeria, a lot of it is being lost. I am priviledged to know a little because my dad made it his business to force me to know. I know its all complicated. Suffice it to say that we are all Nigerians. its okay to know your roots and your ancestry, but thats about it. when push comes to shove, we are all the same in the eyes of God. Therefore, i do not think we should preoccupy ourselves so much with who is igbo or yoruba or hausa or not. these differences have divided us for a long time and they exist only in our minds. lets tear down the walss of division people and work together to build a great Nigeria.

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Onicha Ugbo people are part of the Igbo Aborigines of Ile Ife. this link says more:http://www.igbodefender.com/blog/2012/10/05/the-aniomas-were-the-igbo-aborigines-of-ile-ife/

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@ negro, am yet to see a community that will call themselves people from the bush/forest. Most communities take names that reflect their greatness/ or a praise or has a kind of relationship with what they do or a natural thing very close to them like rivers but probably not a complete sentence saying they are from the bush or forest.

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Henry,

Thank you, that's why I'm here, to settle what is Yorubaland. So begin listing.

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You still dey use grammar when there are several Igbo towns in the west without finding any grammar to clssify it.

Dnt make me start mentioning names,

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Dear nairaland reader, this platform is used by many mentally deranged users. Thanks.

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To the question " Are people of onucha-ugbo of Igbo descent"!

The answer is no. The etymology of the name "Onucha", "Onuche", "Onitsha", "Onitcha" and many similarly spelt names as well as "Ugbo", "Igbo". . . .are origination of and with root meaning in Yoruba tongue.

Therefore, Onucha-Ugbo or other forms of which it is spelt is indeed an adulteration and mispell of the original; Orisha-Igbo.

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I think it is best you understand issues before jumping into them.A new ethnic group cannot be created from 1970 till 2011.Edo has always been Edo and so has been Itsekiri.

Why it seems SE Igbos are the ones more concerned about the recent proliferation of ethnic groups out of Igbo is because they are lumped together and classified as one while their differences are more pronounced than the new ethnic groups.The Nigerian situation seems not to be favourable to the Igbo identity and hence the neo-ethnic proliferation is being fueled by discrimination against the Igbo.

It will be wise for any interested person to read pre-war history of these same people and can't but notice a mockery of history.Some have gone as far as saying that Igbo language was imposed on them when there never existed an Igbo empire.

To cap it all,I can as well start my own Abagworo ethnic nationality with me and my family and become the smallest minority ethnicity in Nigeria. notice a mockery of history.Some have gone as far as saying that Igbo language was imposed on them when there never existed an Igbo empire.

To cap it all,I can as well start my own Abagworo ethnic nationality with me and my family and become the smallest minority ethnicity in Nigeria.

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The poster you quoted claimed that there is no fake or real Igbo. Is it true or not and spare your long sermon.

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True but sometimes you ve got to let pple claim whatever they feel like cos no matter how you try, they have made up their mind and have passed it to other pple. For instance, I have seen Bamidele Ajayi, Kunbi Aladeloba from Edo (the Ajayi guy claims to be married to a Yoruba woman but each time I see the 2 of them, I smile). Then Omolade Alade, Opeyemi Omowa from itsekiri, just to mention a few. And going by names and language, itshekiri is just an arms distance from the Yorubas. Yet, nobody is draging with the other.

Even if you drag this issue till eternity, those who will agree will and those who will deny it will deny it. Irrespective of where you belong, just do your best, leave foot prints and walk away.

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no such thing is fake or real igbo. If you speak any igbo dialect and bear an igbo name, you're igbo.

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The saying that we are a homogenous ethnicity. One language, one tradition, one culture.

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@odumchi.I am not from Arochukwu but you can enquire from your fellow Aros on your history or visit Aro facebook page or website.I never implied that Aros are Ibibios but only wrote what I read that the three groups played major role in the founding of Arochukwu.

It is difficult if possible to get a pure breed of any ethnicity.

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Aros are not descended from Ibibios though i must admit that the empire itself was founded with the help of two Igbo generals and an Ibibo or Akpa prince. The land that we now reside on was originally Ibibio but after the Aro-Ibibio wars, the Igbos from central Igboland came and settled here. Because the Aros alligned themselves with an Ibibio prince in the war does not mean that we are descended from them and remember, Igbos migrated form the north of the SE and the Ibibios resided in the South near the Atlantic coast so its a near impossibilty for both of these groups to bopth have inhabited the same area at the same time and unite to create an atogether new clan- Aroos. Even if such a union had occurred the Aros would have adopted Ibibio as their native language since at that time (1600s) there was a major Ibibio presence in the area.

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Abagworo:

@odumchi,The Aros are descended from three groups of Igbo,Ibibio and Akpa.That is the case for most Igbos and other Nigerian ethnic groups.We are all mix of people but linguistically dominant in one and recessive in the others.That is what makes the OPs question a difficult one.

SPeak to Aro issue. What do you mean other ethnic grps?

Ok, like who?

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Hmmm.thanx guys,

@OBIAGU,ok oo so i b igbo boy!

I tink say i b ibo boy?

WHO ARE THE IGBO'S ND IBO'S.

I left onicha ugbo since 6 years and 5 months.now.plz can some one tell me,whats going on home?

I LIKE MEETING MA VILLAGE PEOPLE, AM PROUD OF U GUYS,

LOVE TO MEE U GUYS.@OBIAGU ADD ME ON ANY SOCIAL SITE WiTH solomonstephen27@yahoo.com

water iz about coming out 4rm ma eyes,

6years ND 5MONTHS.

love u guys once more [color=#006600][/color]

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@ OP, Just worry about your Yoruba ppl and issues affecting them and quit butting into ours with your claptrap. How does it affect the price of your garri? My fellow Igbos please ignore the foool. This is just another attempt by some jobless tout to create another Igbo bashing thread. I wonder why u can't smell the insincerity.

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@odumchi,The Aros are descended from three groups of Igbo,Ibibio and Akpa.That is the case for most Igbos and other Nigerian ethnic groups.We are all mix of people but linguistically dominant in one and recessive in the others.That is what makes the OPs question a difficult one.

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Yes they are. Aro people are descendants of one of the original Igbo clans that settled in the SE.

Think of Igbo as being this, a man and a woman both spoke Igbo and their Igbo was the same. They both multiplied and had children. Their children had children and they moved out to settle in different places and they countinued to multiply and resettle. As they multiplied and diversified, their Igbo languages fragmented into many separate and distinguishable forms of the same original Igbo their ancestors spoke and that is how the separate Igbo clans or "mba's" came to be.

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Please, people should not insult whole communities, be specific about who you're talking about, after all some natives of Onicha (Mmili) said they're not Igbo.

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@op.Your question is not well placed because there is nothing like Igbo descent.I think they might be of Nri and ancient Bini descent like most other Delta Igbos.

I don't think one can even get a clearer answer if Eastern Igbos descent is questioned.

Are Aro people of Igbo descent?

Are Abiriba people of Igbo descent?

Are Oguta people of Igbo descent?

Are Ohaji people of Igbo descent?

Are Owerri/Oratta people of Igbo descent?

Are Isu/Isoama people of Igbo descent?

Are Orsu people of Igbo descent?

Are Nri people of Igbo descent?

Are Awka people of Igbo descent?

Apart from Delta,Anambra and Enugu States are Igbos of Nri descent found as full clan in Abia,Imo,Ebonyi and Rivers?

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I can claim that "Onicha-Igbo" is Yorubaland and bring valid arguments toi explain that it was originally settled by Orisha worshippers and its original name was "Orisha-Igbo" (meaning "The Forest deity") and therefore qualifies as a Yoruba domain.

But I believe if the natives themselves believe that as their origin they should self-initiate a link and conciliation back to that proud heritage.

The will of the people is supreme to the validity that exist in any virtual logic online.

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God Bless you Ify.

Teach these guys to respect other poeple's land.

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Onicha Ugbo,Ugboko and indeed some other parts of Delta state are Igbos but If your friend choose/prefer to be addressed as a 'non-Igbo'. . .Its her/his life,right and should be respected

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^^

6 if you count Rivers State.

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@ Poster dont mind them. They are "ndi efulefu uvuve n'ebugari" meaning lost people carried by the wind.

You know in the late stages of the war, as the Nigerian army closed in on Delta State, they targeted Igbo men--especially young men who they suspected to be Biafran soldiers. So inorder to avoid such a fate, a few people claimed that they were not Igbo and had nothing to do with Igbo despite the fact that: they spoke Igbo, they wore Igbo attire, they answered Igbo names, and they had Igbo traditions. So the descendants of such people are the likes of your friends.

Please do me a favour, tell them that they are Igbos and are to be ashamed for saying they arent.

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These Delta people are funny.

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What this guys said is true!my name is solomon am from ONICHA UGBO,truly if my friends in d class call me igbo,i wunt like it, but i later found out that we re igbo people,but not the real igbo!

I schooled in ogun state so whenever my friends call me OMO IGBO i d lyk it,I HATE HEARING THAT.MY NAMES ARE (EMETONJO SOLOMON) 4RM onicha ugbo.[color=#006600][/color]

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@Poster, in your conviction they are Igbo. That is what they are. The issue of ancestry does not determine whom one is in today's world. You are Yoruba isn't it?. Your ancestry points towards the mid East. Does it mean you are from the mid east?.

Issue of ancestry breeds confusion and division. Most Igbo communities east of the Niger understands this very well that is why, they do not care about that.

Search that your friend very well, he may not be from Onicha Ugbo. They are proud Igbo people. In Delta Igbo region, identity crises is in tiny parts of Ika and minor fractions of Ndokwa.

On your friend not understand his Anioma neighbour. It is common in Igbo and Yorubaland. I understand Yoruba yet I do not understand Akoko Ondo.

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They are qualified Efulefu. Such persons could be mistaken for sacrificial objects in their village.

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@post.my 1st reply was that they are igbos.if you however mean tradition of origin then there is definitely some families who trace their origin to bini and igala.this diverse tradition of origin occurs almost in the entire igboland.

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That name onicha ugbo makes it igbo.onicha exists all the way in igboland up to ebonyi.onicha mili,onicha olona,onicha ngwa,onicha uboma and a whole lot of others.

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