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What Is It With The Yorubas And Their Language?

I find it very disrespectful that in their midst, they'd be speaking yoruba not minding you can't understand what they are saying. They can gossip about you in that very moment and you won't know.

Imagine everyone laughing and smiling while you sit down like a dundee trying to figure out what the hell they are saying.

Before anyone comes out and say our Culture Mod is a tribalist, let me clarify that yes I'd rather not mix with ignorant yorubas, especially the ones that grew up in Nigeria.

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Guilty as charged. Next

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i think english people do it the most!

they are very notorious for this

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what about edo people

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lol pain me? lol, you can do better, i live around Yoruba people all the time, it's not my loss babe, i can speak the language, it's not my language just like English language but you can't cheat me with these languages. so sorry babe-in-her-heat, wait for another user to continue with. i ain't got time to waste with a girl in her period or is it menopause that's kicking in already? don't worry, you've not been isolated yet.

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eyah- the matter pain your belle sha. Do you cry when they do that?

Your Yoruba must be the wishy washy type, since even your English get k leg like you.

Your life is indeed miserable as we can all see.

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this thread never die?

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so it has now come back to square one ehh?? "when her bfs attack but when u say sometn she takes offense!"

so why didnt you correct tpia when she was going off on her tangent? dont you despise tribalist? why not check her and tell her wassup.

that went on for 3+ pages while i sat and watched waiting for you to say something to her.

NOTHING!! so what exactly is your point of trying to tell me "you didnt see when your bfs was going off blah blah" type of statements?

and yes imma defend myself because it seems like with you one cannot get their point across cause youre too busy reading everything while wearing "IT'S TRIBALISTIC!" sunglasses that blockade everything out.

maybe if you stopped cursing every 3 words and wrote in english that we could read, people might actually want to listen to you and take you serious.

all you do is scream like a 3 year old thats not getting his way.

why not call tpia. out on her stuff? werent you the same person that said you wouldnt check your "allies" so you have now made allies with the same type of person that you despise so much? thats your own words, not mine.

so you see here, at the end of the day you are a hypocrite as it seems that the only tribalist that you despise, are the igbo ones.

when tpia. vomited her rubbish right here in front for all to see, you didnt even say one word to her.

i thought you "deal" with people of her kind?

hmmmmmmmm, now i really see who you are.

That's exactly why black people are always killing themselves over nothing. lolol!!! and people fighting and shooting each other over drugs. someone can do one little thing to someone and theyre ready to pull out their gun. NEW YORK, NEW YORK! lolol that statement just made you look bad. little immature Arrow that fights over nothing.

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They weren't exactly friends. Let's say I grew up isolated from Nigerians and I just wanted to hang out with my pals but the fact is it isn't that simple. In Nigeria maybe because we are so numerous in number we can even get fed up of staying with our groups all the time and feel the need to meet other people, but it is different here.

They form a little community of the yorubas, igbos, binis. The minorities end up being absurbed by the most populous group, that's how I came about these yoruba pals.

Anyways now I am back to my normal life. I am content of my italian life and friends and don't need more.

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There's nothing wrong in speaking your language in public but when in the midst of someone who does not speak or understand the language it is rude and disrespectful to do so. As much as I am not one to reduce this into a tribal debate, I found this behaviour mostly inherent among Yoruba Corpers during my NYSC days in Oyo State.

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Obviously, they don't care about her that much so why should she keep hanging around such people?

Like I said earlier, my Spanish friend did that and she did apologize. It all boils down to the fact that this behavior is not only inherent in Yoruba people. It all depends on your reaction to the behavior and whether or not the people involved are apologetic.

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This is an attack to a group. I simply stated a fact. Those people shouting here and there didn't say anything meaningful. What have they said? Nothing. They didn't even deny so what are they crying for?

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This topic reveals why Nigeria will NEVER be ONE

Instead of acknowledging that we all need respect another different culture, we are told not to be around with people different than us.

We love to blame the white people, but it our[i] ownselves that is killing each other. [/i]

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Exactly!!! Same thing I do;attack the individual,but,folk like the amaka always try to put a spin on it.talkn bout"ignore","turn the otha cheek" bla bla bla.binch(@the amaka), I don't knw wut part of the U.S u from,but here in east new york,a mudaeffa throw a rock at me I was raised to throw 9 grenades tied together at that effers front door!!! Funny thing is the amaka doesn't say jack when her bf's attack but when u say somthn she takes offense!nice goin there,ho!matter fact I'm tired of this topic!I'm out!got a weddinh wit chiogo to plan!peace

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If you didn't care you wouldn't want the pay back either.

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@michelin:Hun,I do not think its rude in any way!evn tho,when I'm spkn with friends or family, I find that I catch myself as soon as I c dat I'm speakn spanish when there's som1 that don't understand it in our midst!23 yrs,I've heard people speak ibo around me and I don't understand jack,same with yourbas,I don't care!just knw I'll give them the 'aprender espanyol' look when I'm with my own people and they act all upset dat they don't understnd wut we yappn about! I actually agree with u about the nigerians that came here as adults and the ones that were born here or grew up here.like u said:too much cultural differences!the ones that grew up in africa,like NCHARA,MEKUSSXx,IGWE1,EZIACHI,BEAF and co are usually archaic and brash in their way of thinkn and mannerisms.whilst,the ones like The Amaka,paddy lo,posakosa,sagamite,oyinda,sjeezy,platinumk,even if u disagree with them u can still stand them.I wonder why?mayb,its cus they was born or raised out here.maybe,the ones that wasnt even raised here been open to western influences since they was kids;who knows?all I know is I agree that the ones that was raised in africa got a very annotn mentality

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Google is your friend.

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Sorry my bad. Anyways that's the same scenarios. You are not denying that even the Latinos are fund of doing it. Do you agree it is rude? If one of you invited the non latino person, don't you think it is unappriopriate to bring him to a clique where he is not "welcomed"?

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@michelen:babes I DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING LIKE 18 YORUBAS and 1 ESAN!!!! When I mentioned the 18 people scenario I made it clear I was speakn about latinos/latinas,u know, mi gente!!!how on earth will I ever be in the midst of that much yorubas at the same time?I used that analogy to explain that, WE,LATINOS,also catch some flak when we speak in our native tongue. Ps:I thot the thread was closed.how did it become open again all of a sudden?

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I am also proud of my native language and I am proud of the fact that I can communicate in different languages (not just in Esan). These yorubas should understand that you are not less yoruba if for once you speak English/Pidgin when an outsider is among you.

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well they are proud wit their lang

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she was admitting that it was tribalistic. read this in her post: "let me clarify that yes"

and of course it's natural to react to a sensitive subject like this.

I mean really, her point doesn't apply to language only. it also applies to all forms of culture. If you decide you want to be buddy buddy with a bunch of soccer players for example, if you don't understand soccer or like soccer, you will not get along with the players. they will talk about things you will feel left out of. does that mean that they should always talk about what you like just because they want to please you? NO.

you are the one who will have to leave and find people you feel more comfortable with. or better still, if you have no other friends, you learn to listen to them talk about soccer. or explain to them that you don't understand what they're saying or that you feel left out,

and if they are nice enough, they will listen to you and change their subject once in a while to make you feel included.

so my suggestion is for michelin to go and find ishan girls or other people she feels more connected with.  because the yoruba girls definitely will not quit speaking their language just because they want to accommodate one person.

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Well said. They cannot eat their cake and have it. I knew the enormity of the problem when 3 Yoruba dudes chose to walk out of a pan Nigerian meeting rather than stop using Yoruba language in extra-Yoruba meetings

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michelin ws just doin wat she does on some fridays - create silly thread

She knew d reaction she will get once she creates this thread and im sure shes lovin the attention

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Aloy is an under-cover "tribalist".

Gosh, I'm even tired of using the word, tribalist on this nairaland. It doesn't even make sense.

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^^^^i do not think you understand the context.

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So people should now be apologetic speakers of their language?

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I did and as someone has already said here, they think it is your fault you don't understand yoruba. Make them dey Yoruba Yoruba. Me sef go dey rock Esan with my fellow in their midst.

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@the issue of Yorubas, have any of you tried to tell any of them how you feel when they do this, or correct them etc?

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It is very depressing that a supposed thread in correcting basic social interaction etiquette has descended into ethnic bashing. First off, I 'd say MICHELIN was wrong in making this an issue with the YORUBA. Evidently, she gets to be in the circle of the YORUBA that often, hence her attempt at generalization. I was invited for dinner at an IGBO friend's residence some months back. The conversation at the dinner table, suddenly became IGBO. I kept quiet, finished my meal and politely told my hosts it's anti-social to be speaking a language an invited guest does not understand. They accepted their wrong and we moved on from their.

Speaking of native language in a foreign land (or in the midst of non-speakers) is not peculiar to the YORUBA. Like many here have pointed out, it cuts across ethnic groups and boundaries. Victims should learn to be understanding, and also take the time to correct the speakers. Some do it without thinking. Perhaps some things are better expressed in their native language.

And MICHELIN, please don't indulge in ethnic battles. It does you no good and only breeds ethnic tension and mutual distrust. You are a MOD and should be a role model to the several teens on this forum! If someone tries to tempt you into coming out with your fangs, keep your cool and let it pass. Don't make sweeping generalizations about a people and their beliefs.

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Its not that hard to not talk to yoruba girls simple. LMFAO REALLY

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you can always tell when someone is gossiping about someone cause they usually change their town and have a certain expression on their faces.

ive seen enough of that in my lifetime to know this.

hm!

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I agree with Michelin. This is one aspect I don't like about Yoruba girls. Well, I know when they start gossiping about me or the non yoruba person beside them. I just walk the eff out. bldy disgusting!

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Shame x2 to those shameless men that goes about insulting women on Nairaland as if they do not have mothers. It is a shame as it is shameful.

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no, i just decided to ignore them.

its no use.

the more attention you give them the more theyll post.

so i dont even care anymore.

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@the amaka, u argued wit them then lata got indoctrinated ,right?

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Shame to those men who insult women in this thread.

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I had a similar thread last year on this same issue

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yes, Yoruba people (most of them) even here in Nigeria are fond of that attitude, they start speaking this their ngatti ngatti and once they know you don't understand their language, then you are in for a ride, they will now increase their volume, make life miserable for you. infact if you tell them you are not Yoruba, you are automatically tagged as an omo ibo, even while you try to let them know you are not an igbo guy, they still won't accept, you hear some say, Igbo no ni (it's still igbo), sometimes, i just look at them, shake my head and just pretend as if i don't understand the language.

FYI: I speak Yoruba more than alot of yorubas but i rather peshi first, access the environment before letting them know i can speak it.

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i do ignore these threads. this thread is not a TRIBALISTIC thread.

but YOU just like to turn everything into that.

anytime one tribe is mentioned does not make it a tribalistic thread.

and im always in a "fray" with YOU because YOURE always looking for me and bugging out.

and usually when im in a "fray" its not over TRIBE, its over other things.

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The amaka,u always claim to "ignore" these kinda threads,so why the hell are u always in the middle of the fray?

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I've heard about this a few times.

Then again, Yoruba's aren't the only ones who do it.

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thats why there are certain threads for that.

when talking in the midst of others, thats very rude.

but like i said, i dont care, thats why i never brought it up.

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I mean theyre not

[b]begging for HER friendship so it shouldnt matter.

and on NL lol thats their own problem let them speak their language no one stops others from doing it. WHICH OTHERS DO!!!

Thats better cause no one cares if isans, ibos or urobos on the Nl speak their languages, so it shouldnt matter if a yoruba person does.

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thats why i modified my post.

no point, i dont care though.

its "whatever" to me.

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Stop wasting ur time with that rude boy Sjeazy8. He belongs in the gutters

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if all of us are discussing and all of a sudden the ones that know spanish carry on a conversation that you cant understand WHILE YOURE STANDING RIGHT THERE IS VERY RUDE!!

i know a little spanish though (if they talk slow) lolol

but i do find it rude though that they want to start discussing in their language while others are there.

ive even noticed this on NL too but never said anything.

it seems only the yorubas do this on NL. (and im not being tribalistic, its just what ive noticed)

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Sjeazy8

You are a fool. I stay logged on most of the time and that does not mean I am sitting on my PC looking at NL webpages. At my level I am involved more in supervisory role and I have enough extra time to do stuff. You are a student, and so still way below me. Hahahahahaha!

If you as a student have spaced out time despite attending different classes, how much more a teacher who teaches just a few classes? Ode with small sense

Check out my stuff in the attachments here http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-367028.64.html

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The worst part is they use this method to carry rumours all around. Because you can't hear, you can't object and courtesy demands you smile when you are in a public gathering.

At a point I got upset and isolated myself physically. What was the point of standing there when I couldn't contribute to their conversation? And why should I bother myself to learn your language? Is your yoruba more important than my Esan? Please nor just go there with your tribal centrism. I don't owe any yoruba the effort to learn your language because it doesn't contribute a dime to my life.

I speak my English to contribute on NL, my Italian to school here, my Pidgin to laugh and joke with my fellow Nigerians and my Esan to speak when I am with my parents, so I don't need your yoruba.

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