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Why Weren't/aren't There Any Tribes In Europe?

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I strongly and highly doubt that.

In fact I know that is a flat out LIE.

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Click the link below and you'll see in very good detail what happened to the Tribes of Europe.

http://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/whatever-happened-to-european-tribes/

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Crests are clan identifications, coat of arms are hieldarcy based of traditional crests which predate roman expansion is middle ages. Go with your example of britain Tartan is clan identification clothing patterns. Those are still very recognizable in Britain and used for special occasions ( weddings, funerals, chisnings etc). Tribe and clan music is not something heard on the radio it is again something used for special occasions. Can you identify someone tribe by their looks? Yes if they are not too mixed or are of a domi9nant blood line like the Gael or Celts yes you can if you know the identifiers. There are still alot of people who will not marry outside their tribe or will not marry certain tribes. Francs are the most commonly avoided tribe for those who are of Saxon, Gael, celt or nord bloodlines. Tribal foods still exist and age rarely cooked in public. One of the few highland tribal foods you can find in restaurants is haggis and blood pudding. Tribal slangs in the traditional languages are used within members of the same tribe and clans or with those knowing the languages. Most tribal languages are still spoken behind closed doors mostly because they had been outlawed by ruling government infavor of state languages. Druidism and Wicca though they have been corrupted by Hollywood are still practiced which are the ancient tribal religions of the Gael, Celts, Saxons and highlands. Again if you don't know what your looking for or where to look you won't see it. The tribes are still very much alive, tribal mentality is what is dying off.

My statement they are not extinct stems from the definition of the word extinct. A tribe cannot be extinct until all of that bloodline are dead. Tribal languages are not extinct till Boone speaks it. Tribal religions are not extinct till all who practice it are dead. Very very few tribes world over have gone extinct. Being you know nothing of European tribes which is obvious, you have no grounds to base your argument. I suggest you take a visit to somewhere in Europe and visit. Even if only going to a festival thrown by one of the tribes/clans and see for yourself the traditions and wares that are still very present in their societies

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Again i ask how can a real female be a fhagg? Lolz.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i said the tribes are extinct. not the people. the very concept of the particular tribes is extinct. todays europeans arem ixed race mostly (except for the few exceptions i gave examples of).

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^^^^^ extinct means died off. If all but a handful were then Europe would be almost empty. The tribes continued to bear children within themselves and other tribes/clans causing them to become blended. Not extinct

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the replies on this thread are all a joke. many of the replies are extremely silly.

in the future , please consult PAGAN JA for tribal matters.

now let me explain about europe and her tribes.

europe had tribes till around 1500 years back (max to about 1000 years back). major european tribes had names such as the Celts, Saxons, Norse, Britons, Gauls, Goths, Visigoths, Angles, Jutes, Franks, Slavs, Finnish tribes, Vikings, Danes, etc.

after the advent of christianity, christianity sought to destroy Traditional Religions / Paganism throughout europe. to achieve this christianity had to first eliminate the tribes, their culture, religion ,etc. therefore the church imposed many laws, such as prevention of arranged marriages among tribe members (so that different tribes were forced to assimilate), etc.

also this was used to promote adam and eve theory that everyone shared common ancestry from 2 humans adam and eve. once the mixed-race ofspring of different tribes further assimilated, the church created a situation whereb it "made the people of europe share common ancestry due to mixing".

today almost all of the tribes of europe are extinct, except the extreme Northern cold regions such as in FInland :THe Sami, other FInnish tribes, etc., where the tribes survived to some extent since christianity did not reach there until very late and there was much resistance against it in these areas.

as for the rest of europe, for e.g,:

todays british are a mixture of Britons, Saxons, Normans, ROmans, etc.

todays french are a mixture of Gauls, Visigoths, Fanks, etc.

and so on. .

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Europe did and still does have tribes/clans. Some cultures still adhear to them (Celts and "gypsy" regions mostly) but they have learned that their clan/tribe heritage is just that, heritage. They remember it and honor it when appropriate, but don't segregate because of it. They have moved beyond the "I only patron ______clan/tribe businesses, hire _____ workers" and so forth. You can accomplish more together than separated by such small details.

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here is a video depicting what happened via map.

you can see the early fusion of cultures again due to invasion and assimilation.

there is that one flaw someone pointed out about aryans being in iran in 3,500 BC

and that is true it is a faulty but everything else is pretty accurate in terms of europe

and how it changed.

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My guess is that the landscape of Europe being mostly flat lands and surrounded by water made it much easier for invaders/rival tribes to attack and conquer each other.

Forced and consensual fusion of cultures is the reason for the extermination of tribes in most of europe.

In fact our speaking English is a perfect example as it is Germanic, Celtic, Romance, and even Asiatic in origin.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^WHAT ARE YOU TALLLKING ABOUT^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THERE WERE SOME IN THE PASSSSST^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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there are tribes all over. they might just differ in size.

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quite true.

Long time- how bodi.

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Yes, the tribes in Europe fought each other almost to extinction. The Franks, Saxons, Celtics, Anglo, Latin, Bavarians and more are tribes in Europe. However, they have all became nations. In Africa, instead of nations the tribes were meshed into geographical entities called countries which served the administrative convenience of the colonial masters.

This single action by the colonial masters has left Africa in perpetual circle socio-politico-economic retrogression including wars of attrition. If something is not done soon, the next round of wars in Africa will be very atrocious.

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Before colonialism 'Igboland' was called the "Ebo country" which included all ethnicities in the east except the 'Moko' (Ibibio, Efik). 'Ebo country' google books search results

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no disagreement from me.

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the separatism is no excuse for the derogatory use of the word.

I mean many countries in the middle east consist of multiple ethnic groups as well (I wonder the history of their modern nations) and they fight continuously. why aren't those groups called tribes? ex pashtun vs tajik groups in afghanistan. the pashtun group further consist of many different tribes. but you wouldn't call  pashtun itself a tribe.

"state" is neither an european creation or a new creation. maybe the english word is but the idea of "state" have existed since the conception of civilization (ppl say in mesopotamia etc)

but i do agree that many european nations are culturally homogeneous.

the yorubas were homogenous as well up until the early 17th century when it was divided into independent states, kingdoms and tribes according to many sources -such as the one i'm quoting below.

"Since the dismemberment of their empire by the Fulahs (1820-21) the country has been divided into a number of semi-independents states, chieftaincies, or kingdoms, (and tribes) hanging loosely together, or rather constantly at war, and with a feeble sense of common nationality."

http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/Y/YOR/yoruba.html

an example will be Oyo kingdom, Ekiti tribes (tribes are by definition very small group - up to a 100 or more ppl per tribe) etc but with all having a common sense of yoruba identity

i mean when a new country is patched up together with fragments of old countries or nationalities, these are still ethnic groups still not tribes. lol

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@ Oyinda

I agree about the derogatory nature of the term tribe, but the separatism that can dog African states has got to largely be attributed to the arbitrary way that the nations were created in the first place. In much of Europe, nations are more homogenous and/or the winning 'race' prevails and is the majority. I personally believe that the 'state' is a fairly European and a fairly new creation and so if its not Biafra, its the Uygurs (sp?) or the Tibetans in China, etc etc.

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abeg na because of all this my ayeaye is better than your ayeaye.

who cares anyway.

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not any more (though consider the separatists that still blow up trains in Spain), because a foreign power did not float across the seas and place them in countries that go against their histories, societies, ethnicities and geographies.  they certainly had bloody revolutions that led to the unifications of their nations, and the weaker groups lost. but without an equivalent to colonialism they have a hundred years on us.

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do 90% of the European "tribes" spend all their time fighting each other?

Or did they give it a rest.

therein lies your clue.

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in europe tribes were called clans. there were hundreds in every country. the only place you can still find the clan mentality in europe is in scotland. the kilts they wear dictate thier clans. each clan has its own pattern for the cloth used on the kilt. Holloween is the Wiccan (name for a religion prevelant throughout europe for thousands of years before christianity arrived) holiday. it is equivilant to newyears/christmas. it is the end of the year and the day the dead pass from the waking world into the spirit world.

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. . .It stems from colonial times and racism.

Tribe was originally used to describe groups of monkeys. Naturally, this meaning is omitted from most definitions.

We're always happy to abuse ourselves - there is also something labourers say when they attempt to lift heavy loads; ever heard eshobe? It means "apes obey".

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there were, and lot of them (e.g. Spain, Germany, Italy) have only relatively recently become unified nations.

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Thanks, that was the answer I was looking for.

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in Europe people of different cultural background are called ethnic groups, while in Africa we were referred to as tribes. Most intellectuals and politicians around the world have stopped referring to Africans as tribes but rather as ethnic groups. If u read the papers or listen to the news u will hardly see the word tribe used in describing the different groups on the continent, similar to the word halfcaste which was used to describe mixed race people or rather the more politically correct saying mixed heritage but is no longer used. Half cast and Tribe have a negative connotation hence the world as moved away from their usage except Africans.

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What do you mean by tribe?Cause Europeans aren't one nation,just the same race.

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There were loads of tribes in Europe, and depending on your definition of tribe, there are still loads.

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