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Nollywood: Don't We Need A Revolution?

Five years ago we were frequently punished with the worst crap we could endure on T.V. I am talking about music videos. Radio on the other hand was different; we could listen to music from talented musicians. Even then i craved something better, I did try to get involved, It wasn’t easy, people just wanted quick cut and paste instead of the well done job. Nobody would pay for better quality (can you imagine). The consequent results were the eye sores we sat through in the late 90s and early 2000s. So what happened?

A REVOLUTION! First it was CHANNEL O then MTV. Channel O asked for videos from musicians, blah blah and musicians suddenly realized that in order to really be seen by Africa, you needed to be on one of these music channels, and how else could they do this but make a video that wouldn’t end up in the dustbin. One or two people put good stuff on there (JJC & 419 Squad, MODE 9, Ruggedman, etc). Then all of a sudden everyone was in on the act. This gave rise to new wave directors like DJ Tee, Woody and now Clarence Peters….etc. Now do you see the results? Awards, International recognition, International shows, Endorsements, etc.

NOW “NOLLYWOOD”: If you have been here even for a short while you would have realized by now that there are people here who love Nollywood films and don’t want anyone sating anything negative about them, and those who think “Nollywood home videos” are the biggest abomination since film was invented and only wish for a change or REVOLUTION.

Under this topic/subject, I want us to actually discuss what Nollywood is, how it is, what is wrong, what can be done, what should be done, etc. Because it is embarrassing that we are where we are and the world moves forward leaving us in the dust.

So Nollywood lovers, haters, critics and all…Lets start a revolution. If we don’t start somewhere we’ll never go anywhere. Trust me it will not be easy, Some might say we are just talking and can’t do nothing of our own, but criticism is a tool that aids change, I dare any to say Ruggedman’s “Ehen” did not contribute immensely to the hiphop music industry. Who knows, a movie making alliance can be formed here (fingers crossed).

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Nollywood's new generation is slowly emerging. Berra production value, original stuff, and a new crop of stars are on their way:

Take for example this movie that just had it's nation wide release in Nigerian cinemas last month:

As long as new film makers take initiative and risk to deviate from the norm, who knows, someday a Nollywood flick might be screening at a major film festival like Cannes and getting picked up by a major distributor!

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Nollywood, ??read this: http://nigerian-entertainment.evergoodproductions.com/nollywood-movies.html

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Wow. . . I didn't know this discussion is already going on on NL here.

Same discussion is going on on FACEBOOK GROUP(WE NEED A REVOLUTION IN NOLLYWOOD) and the blogpage nollyarns.blogspot.com

Check them out!!!!!

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Sisi, Why you kill Baby leave jinx?

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wetin be sisi jinx? What happened

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I'm game for the virtual movie thingie

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@thirdborn

i wasnt pushing my point as you put it neither was i trying to force my own ideals on anybody, maybe i just see things a little bit diffrent thats all, also im not a leader type as i see myself more as a kind of guy in the corner listening to the individual on the soap boax, as for what I PERSONALLY think should be the way foward, knowing the people who are in a position to change things in nollywood,like directors we admire,some artistes we admire e.t.c and emailing them on what we think should be done differently, i started a thread some months ago about p square and theircontroversial statement on calling the hip hop awards yoruba awards and while everyone was making their contributions,their elder brother actually logged on and stated their own side of the story putting a lot of things into perspective, the way i see it things could actually be moved along if any of these great directors could actually be emailed to check these threads out and see the inputs from nollywood lovers who have smart ideas about changing things, while some of them are stuck in their ways,im sure a lot of them dont even know how to change things and this will be a great help for them, this is a god start in my opinion,

its not all about making movies even if we all lived in the same house and have millions of dollars to spend, we all have diffrent commitments,occupations e.t.c and not everyone is actually interested in making movies, the fact that you and i and everyone on here see something wrong and have proffered solutions as we see it doesnt mean we want to be mvoie producers, that should be left to the professionals

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Okay, apparently we have bored MANY, MANY, MANY people with our talk and talk and talk and no action about what is wrong with Nollywood. We apologize for that, we didn’t mean to, honest we didn’t.

I’m sure I can speak for the NRP when I say, we’d like to all get together and make a movie, it would be a delight to work with people who are actually on the same page, however we are all over the place from China to Timbuktu and meeting in real time is going to be an arduous task.

So here is an idea, why not make a virtual movie. . . The way we want to see Nollywood Movies Made?

We start from the very beginning,

A pitch

A story

A script

Rewrites

Casting

Pre-production

Production

Post-production

We are going to have Budget Analysis, Location Scouting, scheduling and the lot.

How are we going to do this? By putting all the great and interested minds on Narialand to work. Our writers, our animation experts, our money expert, our managerial experts. . .  EVERYONE interested in working for nothing with people they’ve never met, please join us in making the first Nairaland Movie.

This is going to be hard, no doubt because. . . Well because it is all going to be done virtually but I think it’s another to move this along and also put some fun into it.

What do you think? In depth details will follow should we all agree to do this.

Thanks everyone, especially the critics of the critics.

Welcome to Nairaland’s first Virtual Movie Studio.

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u guys are just blabbing as afr as i am concerned. too many words over nothing. the movie industry is bad, fine! are you just going to start spelling out mistakes or take the initiative, open a forum for change and we can start thinking of making a revolutionizing movie or soap with all the brains we seem to be wasting here on too many things. 07031001670 is my no. i've got terific stories. we get a good script writer, someone to fund it and we are on to changing the scee . call me whenever u are ready to make achange and not just talks without actions, typical of a loosing nigerian.

what should be done . now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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My people. Why do I feel like I walked in on the royal rumble?

How come I feel like some of you missed some of the issues I raised here and also some of the questions I asked about the way forward? I don’t know how to do that quoting thing, abi who fit teach me? Anyway just rewind or go back or whatever and re-read some of the stuff.

I know “some people” think maybe this is all we are going to do, yap yap and no action but this is where it may start, know that you just don’t go into a fight without understanding anything about what you are going to fight. Where do you start? Where do you attack first? Where is the weak spot you have to strike to bring Goliath down?

Solutions can be suggested and practical solutions can be proffered, maybe some nolly people might pick up on them and start implementation or we do something ourselves I don’t know but a spark has been ignited sha. Am I blabbing?

Nollywood is about 20 years old and has grown as crap, changing it will not happen overnight but that’s not to say change won’t happen.

@Lucabrasi, You have tried to push a point, ok. Howz about you take the lead now. What should we do? And please don’t just say let’s be pro-active, what do we actually do?

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@vesc

i totally agree with you,but what im on about is that the thread will be in danger of banging on about the same thing if after a couple of pages all we r still on about is nollywood problems and solutions without solutions one can actually engage in to change the status quo,while sensitising nigerians generally and non nigerians on nollywood problems is an on going thing, proferring pro active solutions in which people can engage in is equally important, remember this thread and others will always be here for anyone that needs to read it including the solutions that individuals can actually start to work on,

this is my personal opinion and while not saying any others might or should agree with me,the way i see it is, if all i see everytime i log on and veer towards this thread looking to see something new is the same old nollywood problems,nollywood inadequacies,nollywood bad artistes e.t.c without solutions that can be engaged in by all and sundry,then ill sort of get monotonous and boring and seem like overflogging a particular issue without moving on, just my 2 naira

guess you have clearly stated your part in the equation which is opening the eyes of nollywood lovers to the problems and leaving the revolution to to others which is fair enough, i am actually interested in the "revolution"in a manner of speaking hence my comments on the issue,

i agree nollywood needs artistes but that is if tribalism ,nepotism and all the isms has been eradicated, most of the artistes used in the tv series are not the genevieves and rmd,in fact they r unknown and they do a good job of acting even while not being paid as much as the nollywood so called stars, i know many of the tv series are apalling(the ones i v seen on ait internat)

but there are a few im hooked to now, family ties,this life and the other adenuga production(cant re call the name)and about 3 others,

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like i said earlier,i have never insinuated nor directly said that everyone understands what the problem with nollywood is,what i said was that A LOT OF PEOPLE including many psosters both on this thread and others on here,do understand and with their numbers represent a cross ection of nigerians which in my book points to a general agreement albeit with diffrent solutions, the way i see it after three or more threads of multiple pages dealing with problems in nollywood and solutions,anyone that isnt getting it by now will surely have a hard time doing so even if this particular thread runs 50pages long,you wrote in your previous comment about what a good movie entails and how a good movie feels like and i made a comment that i personally feel we should hav moved on from

1.what the problems are,seeing as we have debated that enough times and the solutions to bring about the "revolution"

2.also that people generally know what the problems are and possible solutions,which is evident in the number of comments both in this thread,your thread and other nollywood related threads

the operative word in my comment which you responded to is "pro- active solutions" rather than page after page of th obvious,the point has been made in previous threads and first couple of pages in this thread and i believe pro active and workable solutions people can actually do something about individually should be the next step otherwise this will just be a writing exercise or a chill out spot to vent after a hard days slog, im not lording it on anybody hence the continuous use of "in my opinion" i personally think" e.t.c i never ever used any commanding words or phrases because i know its a public forum not my living room and you should have take it purely as that, a personal opinion

if i write that nollywood has no problem,its my personal opinion which i have a right to,and if i think baba sala and papy luwe should be the nollywood mascot its my opinion which you r free to disagree with but not shoot down in flames, im still yet to see where i have insinuated or infered that i was taking anyone to task other than disagreeing with a comment and ill equally love to see why i have knocked the blinders off anyone on here, unless you r saying i must agree to all comments on here so as not to be seen as lording a diffrent comment on everyone?

as for my style of writing,well good for you on being a literary genis,im sorry i see nairaland as a chill out spot for me and i dont feel the need to whip out my websters dicco or write a literary piece each time im making comments,thats the whole point of the anonymity on here for me and i really dont take it that serious even when reacting to threads im interested in

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I think the issue here is you thinking because you are aware of something, everyone is. I guess you haven't seen the other threads raining insults on our heads because we say there's a problem with Nollywood. My goodness man, take a look at the last page and see what a very Nice African American fan of Nollywood has to say about a revolution in the industry. Most people are very, very content with the status quo because no one is saying anything. If we had a Critic show in Nigeria where the critics are honest, maybe we won't be here today but we don't and we work with what we have. So, please, please I beg of you. . . stop assuming everyone has the same knowledge/understanding you have.

This is an open forum where anyone can post anything. . . at least we agree on that, what we won't agree on is someone taking other people to task for not doing or saying something they wish to see, hence the dancing monkeys comment. If you have another way of revolutionizing Nollywood. . . apart from knocking the blinders off the eyes of the Nollywood lovers, please feel free to share it, in fact I will be HONORED to read it. . . . that's all I am saying.

And you are right, I did sorta insinuate you were an , I'm sorry about that. . . Mom has always warned me not to talk or in this case type in the heat of the moment. So accept my apology for that insult to your person. Just because your style of doing things differ greatly from mine does not make you an or anything remotely close to being senseless. Please know this is not sarcasm, I DO MEAN IT! Honest to Goodness, as God is my witness mean it!

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Since you were honest about why you have a hard time understanding my comments, it's only fair I return the favor. . . I think it's the spacing or rather lack of spacing in your posts. The words are too close together and sometimes one has to read something more than once to really get what you are trying to express. You also have a cute tendency to jump from one thought to another which kind of gives the reader. . . reading whiplash. This prolly isn't a big deal for others but I think I have a slight case of ADD, so I don't invest the much needed time into your posts to really understand them. Sorry.

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and i have a very hard time understanding yours as well as it seems more of sarcasm,loads witty remarks, and i m not even making any pretence that i did cause i dont lie, sorry

well,thanks for taking the time to break it down for me, but judging from this thread and other nollywood threads on this section,i think most people know where nollywood is failing and while people have diffrent approaches to bringing about a revolution,they have proffered different solutions covering the totality of the nollywood malaise.

well,good for the dancing monkeys,but if you care to re -read my comments,i didnt generalise,it was a personal comment and the last i checked everybody was entitled to their opinions,however i wouldnt call well over 2/3 different nollywood threads on here alone with multiple pages/posters all proferring solutions "alone"

by my layman's definition of audience,im rooster sure the amount of posters on this thread and others are more than enough sample of nigerians across the board, who are conversant with nollywood

if i understood your last comments well,and i hope im wrong, i hope you r not insinuating that im an ??because i seem to think you r asserting that "me presumably jumping into stuffs is idiotic"

please if thats what you meant,i dont want us to go down that route at all so ill humbly advice you to withdraw that verbal barb and refrain from using such, in as much as i have neither directed any statement at you nor have i insulted you, i can give as good as i can take but ill like us to keep this thread as an intellectual discource and personally dont relish insulting peoplexxthanks

as for diving headlong,well its a public forum ,and i made my own comments the way i see it and i have justified them due to others that might later read this,so i dont realli need you to agree with me and im sure neither do you need me to agree with you

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I seriously have a hard time understanding your posts, however  I’ll pretend I do.

For a revolution to happen, we have to get people to see why we need one and by people I mean the Nollywood lovers. If these lovely people stopped seeing Nollywood through rose-colored glasses, maybe just maybe they will be able to stand tall and demand better or else. How can they stop seeing Nollywood through rose colored by reading more than the usual “Nollywood Sucks” threads.

The “dancing monkeys”  are grounded in reality well enough to know 1) We can’t do it alone 2) Who wields the power (the audience) and 3) it would be utterly idiotic to jump into things half cocked. Maybe that works for you,, which is why you want to see action right here, right now and to that I say good for you but diving headlong into matters just because. . . isn't our cup of tea.

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either high horse or low donkey,the fact still remains that im t least addressing the poster's thread unless im mistaken of which i stand to be corrected, presumably from my own limited understanding what everyone wants to see is better nollywood productions,what we want to do is pro active and far reaching "revolution"to change the way things are done in nollywood,and what we all want comments on are ways to go abouth this,how and when to go about it in a workable frame, if the thread is not about that then i stand to be corrected, as for "thread by request"and "dancing monkey"all i can say is sounds like good title for our newly revolutionised nollywood

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Take a cue nollywood. Maybe there should be a regulation that no more than 12 films should come out within a year. Which nollywood film is oscar worthy. They won't even qualify for Razzies. And about being proactive, I think we're doing the first stage. Letting these people know that they spew out incredibly and utter shite, week in week out. Plus they need to learn what makes a good movie (as they can't even be rated by Sisi's list. It's like not showing up for a test) instead of being smug and ridden with hubris.

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meanwhile check out Jerusalema from SA. another Oscar hopeful. beta than Tsotsi

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@Sisi/Baby jinx

Honestly i thought it was you cos the writing styles and wittiness but then i checked out the number of posts you had up here as Baby Jinx and as Sisikill, they were too much so i just guessed i could be mistaken. Girl! How the hell did you manage to balance it all. I guess i am not as smart as Dr. HOUSE. Anyhow sha glad to know its you, thought you bailed on us.

OK let the REVOLUTION continue.

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$1,000,000. Wow such mind boggling budget!

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Wow, you just about got it all there.

Where the Nolly lovers at?

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MEN! I knew i could rely on you guys to tell me the truth unlike some of those crappy articles some nolly lovers wrote. you'd think the movie was nominated for an oscar the way they went on and on about it. They even went as far as saying the movie cost $1,000,000. I tire for naija people o'.

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So what if they used film instead of a minicam, or those giant reporter like cameras. It's still bull made on 35mm. That just goes to show u how lowly these people are. The first nigerian film on 35mm. U gotta hand it to them

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1) In movies you really like, what do you think was most important?

The script

Who does the movie star?

The characters

The plot/storyline

Special effects

Music/songs

Visuals (does it look good on the big screen?)

Action

Romance

Suspense

Actually feeling the characters' emotions

2) What do you think spoils movies most?

A bad script

Irritating characters

Poor storyline

Themes that have been done too many times

If it's too long or slow

If it's too short

Noticeable mistakes (continuity, seeing cameras when you shouldn't, etc)

Having to yell `Just kiss him/her!'

Overplayed action/romance scenes

A silly or radical ending

Being based extremely loosely on a book

Being too predictable

Being too radical

In other words all of the above

3) Have you stopped watching a movie before the end of it?

Yes

No

I try not to, but if its a Nollywood movie , sometimes i stop before i even start.

4) What is your opinion on movie sequels?

Every movie should have a sequel!

Some sequels are good e.g. Aliens 2, Terminator 2 (T2), etc

No, any sequel is rarely as good as the original

Can nobody think of something original?

When it actually comes to Nollycrap, everything always points to the negative. By the way did anybody ever see Amazing Grace? i was going to but when i saw The first Nigerian film on 35mm boldly written on the cover of the DVD case, i got pissed and walked away. Was it any good?

@Baby Jinx

I'm drowning still.

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dont realli get what y'all are on about now,but from the little i v read about what entails a good movie guess everyone knows what that is,ill rather comment on pro active solutions because that seems to be the problem in my view, nigeria and nigerians have never had a problem with thesis and theories even corrupt senators/politicians speeches runs like a malcolm x/dr king ,ghandi speech ,the will to actually get something done has been the bane so far which i reckon the focus should be on , if thats what this thread is about,

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@Spikedcylinder, I think you shouldn't rate Hans that low. I know you didn't mean to but I really love that guy. And now that I know that these Qs were directed at nollywood, I'd say u can classify the 'soundtracks' into shitty, unbelievably shitty, and unfuckingbelievably shitty. One that stuck with was this one "onome, onome, love is yours" It had Olu Jacobs in it.

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Very succinct way to pose questions. Options!!! I love questions with options. Let's get right to it, shall we?

1. As I love movies for mostly different reasons, there can be no single reason why I loved them, so I'll go for a blend of

- The Script; I never see this but it translates to all that makes a good movie. It's simple bad script = bad movie. Good script = good movie or bad movie (when badly made)

- Plot

- Storyline (I'd like to think a storyline is a plot but a plot is not a storyline)

- Characters

- Casting

- Suspense

- Empathy

- I'd like to add the director. I have made berths of films solely cuz of who made it and vice versa

AS for the aspects that don't really matter

- Who does the movie star. I don't know whether to equate this with casting. But if you mean star power. I do not care for star power. I thought Eragon, Trasformers, even AvP were quite good. Who needs Brad Pitt?

- Cool CGI and what not can make a very good movie but my favorite movies are quite devoid of this. So the absence of special tweaks don't spoil a movie but ridiculous effects spells suicide.

- Music. Frankly, when the OST is so good I take notice and might like a movie for that but when it's not so good, it just goes unnoticed. That's why I loved Romeo Must Die.

- Visuals. I take this to be the rendering. Technicolor or whatever. I like B&W films and Sepia but they generally don't matter that much.

- Action. Good action is always good when you're watching an action movie but I won't always been on the lookout for stunts in say, The Apt Pupil. But them Die Hard films, Yeah!

- Romance. Well, since I'm allergic to bullshit, romance has to be in believable doses. If you've seen The Fountain, now that's Romance. Doesn't have to be a princess in love with her exiled step-brother or some other concoction.

Wow I just answered the #1 question. I'll post answers for #2 and #3 presently.

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@Thirdborn, I very much like your idea but I'm afriad legalities will hamper that move. The best you could get will be for the Directors Guild to refuse to give a film their imprimatur. But as you know, the average Nigerian probably doesn't even know of the DG or their frigging sanction. Besides, he wouldn't care a pig's tit what the DG thinks of his film as long as Osufia goes to London or whichever other country invades his puny mind!

The last bit was just to enrage the pro-nollywoods

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My people, i wanted to pose a question to all. Do you believe that a new professional body like DGA (Directors Guild of America) should be created? With a few serious rules of course.

All films must meet a certain standard.

All films will be shown to a test audience before release to test audience reactions.

All films must be shot with standard equipment.

The list can go on and on (Una fit add una own). I know our usual haters will insult the hell out of us and say we want to kill the common man, there are no funds, blah blah blah. Remember that Nigerians will never push hard until you force them. During the banking sector reforms, when banks were told they'd go poof if they didn't have a capital base of 25 Billion, sure they cried for Soludo's head but look where we are at now, all banks are bragging about their pockets and images. Imagine what something similar will do for the film industry. It's quite simple "meet these standards or your films will not be screened".

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Well I guess she's Molesting you now!

@Ebony. See ya around. Just when I was 'getting' you.

So what'd y'all say we took this revolution up a notch?

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Well I don't feel like reading the whole thread darling. I just wanted to make my contribution and hop on to the next thread.  Then came the questions, and so I answered. 

But I'm not about to read the whole thread, it's not that serious to me.  I don't live in Nigeria so I wouldn't be part of the Nollywood revolution.  I have enough to worry about on my own turf with Obama becoming president and Bush moving along with his pathetic zest for death.   I have other revolutions to focus on. 

Was just adding my two cents.  So this is Ebony Mermaid, signing out.

Goodbye, Goodnight, and God Bless - 2 fingaz

p.s.  I will be checking your blog, so keep it spicy.

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EbonyMerma, I suggest take more than a cursory glance at the thread to see EXACTLY what we mean by revloution. Please read from the VERY BEGINNING! I hear it's always a good place to start!

Hmmm, Why do I suddenly feel like watching Sounds of Music? Now THAT was a good movie

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Well no0one here can say i din't try to talk to EbonyMerma. Abeg make una continue to dey talk to her sha.

@baby jinx, let's just pretend i'm an American with delusions and i can't say for sure which one you be, tell me bo!

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@Baby Jinx

True,,  I have no rebuttal.  You have completely shut me up on that one.  brb, my teapot is whistling.

Back.   Well, isn't that why you and Ves want to see a Nollywood revolution? Well one of many other reasons?  Because some Nollywood movies are becoming too Americanized?  I know I read that somewhere on this thread.  Or are you just blowing hot air, like my tea kettle? Do you really want to view a Nollywood movie staring Tom Cruise as Adewale Okoye?  Sweetie, I don't want Nollywood to be placed in a box.  I don't even think that Nollywood is in a box.  When the quality of Nollywood movies improve, Nollywood will be a force to reckon with.  That I know and that's what I would love to see.

I am very curious, so I do read.   I view all kinds of movies, thanks to YouTube and other online video sites.  I really would like to visit Nigeria when I finish school.  I'm going to come and stay at your house if you don't mind.   So let the family know.  (lol - just kidding)  And I feel that is fine, if Nollywood wants to use non Nigerian actors, but examples like "The Tenant" is not the way to go.  Keep the majority Nigerian, what's wrong with that?

Once again, I do not use Nollywood movies as a way to measure Nigerian culture  LOL, that would be funny.  I know that they are actors, acting out scenes that are sometimes far fetched from the way that life really is.  Acting is a form of art and so that is what I view it as.  But I expose myself to more than just Nollywood, of course.

Well then we can agree that we are all passionate about Nollywood, but we have our own way of supporting the industry.  It's called free will.  You're right, we don't have to cuddle and make excuses or applaud Nollywood, but refering to these movies as mediocore will only attract more mediocrity.  It's the law of attraction at work.  I know that you see the potential and so that is what I try to focus on as well; Nollywood's potential.   But when you focus on the negative; negativity only begats more negativity and that's Real Talk there.

~~Ebony Mermaid

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@ Ves

Yes, I am an optimistic person;  again, I believe in the Laws of Attraction.  Nollywood movies are great and will improve.  I think that I said before that I am going to start purchasing the Nollywood movies that I like and I may even invite my girls over for Nollywood night or a Nollywood movie marathon, because that's just how much I like them. 

In your revolutionary approach to improve the state of Nollywood, remember to focus on what you like about these movies and only purchase the movies that you like.  Try not to focus on what you don't like, thus turning the conversation into a negative one.  Once people start to have negative views in regards to Nollywood movies, the movies will continue to have all of the components that make Nollywood movies unlikeable.  That's how "The Law" works.

Indulge me darling,  INDULGE me.  Mmmmmmm,  I like it like that.  ha ha

~~Ebony Mermaid

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@ThirdBorn

Sweetie, I think that YOU don't get it. Yes one of the black people I couldn't was from a BET channel. Have you ever seen a BET movie? Violence, guns, drugs, shooting, black women playing whores and crack heads. Now that's garbage to me. Hollywood, is OKAY, but in my opinion it's too white. Every now and again, blacks in the states are surprised with a black movie. Maybe 3 or 4 a year. Other than that, we have to watch garbage on BET or pull out our DVD stash or watch hip hop videos. The only television show that I really like with a black cast is Run's House. It's a reality show featuring Rev Run from Run DMC and his family. What I'm trying to say is that in the American media, over-saturation of white faces is what you see all day everyday.

I like Nollywood movies because everyone is black. And once again, I feel that the quality of Nollywood movies will improve overtime.

I'm not sure if labeling me as a foreigner is an insult. But one doesn't have to be a Nigerian to enjoy Nollywood movies! *crying*

lol (not really)

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@EbonyMerma

Ohhhh God! you just don't get it. and oh no you didn't, i don't live in America but i ain't dumb. You mean to tell of all the tv channels you went through you never came across BET, andoh, Master P is out with one called BBTV. that is if black faces is all you wanna see.

Sheesh, Baby Jinx said what i felt in my gut, maybe you ain't a foreigner at all. But thats just me, and him/her, baby jinx which one you be sef?

I'd take a Batman part 20 over Nollywood crap anyday.

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@ Ves

Well, if that's what you want to believe sweetheart, then it shall be. And you're correct, I will be a lost cause because I believe in Nollywood's potential. And actually a lot of Hollywood movies these days haven't been so good. Sure people still buy their tickets and go, but most are beginning to feel as though Hollywood producers are running out of creative ideas with the recycling of movies from the past and old television programs; example being

-- Dreamgirls

-- Batman Begins (over and over)

-- Daisy Duke/Dukes of Hazards.

--The Longest Yard

-- and so on

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I don’t mean to sound like an enemy of progress, but all that yarn no make me feel anything. As far as I’m concerned Emeka Mba is no Soludo, so he can’t do for Nollywood what Soludo did for the banking industry. I strongly believe that what the film industry needs is a total overhaul, new blood, in one simple word a REVOLUTION. I know some people for don tire to dey hear that word, but that is the truth. New people with new ideas, people that have not been blinded with the few naira notes they can make from Nollywood as it is. Quite frankly Emeka Mba is not it. Why, you say?

I don’t mean to sound too “enemy of progressy” but hear me out. If you can go back and find THE GAURDIAN newspaper of July 13th 2006, you’ll find an article on page 66, In this article Nollywood darling Emeka Mba was ordering cinema houses in Nigeria (Silverbird, Nu-Metro, City Mall, etc.) to show Nigerian films or be fined in a silly move called “play or pay”. Now isn’t that the daftest thing I ever heard. The guy is actually trying to force people to watch Nolly as it is. Instead of finding ways to make the films better, he is actually trying to make the crap we produce more popular. They even went to Cannes Film Festival in France a couple of years back, to do what? I don’t know. From what I heard they apologized to the small audiences through all their screenings. Now tell me if it wouldn’t have been a better move to tell filmmakers that if they met a certain standard, their films would be screened at the cinemas. That would have made many of them serious and that would have improved the quality of the films they make. His silly order was issued 2 years ago, If it had been to film makers I guarantee we will be writing different stuff here.

Thinking the major problem plaguing Nollywood is the distribution is plain silly, Can you confidently try to push sales of unclean pure water instead of just making it more suitable for drinking? Well, that is exactly what’s going on here, cos the product being sold is not good enough for local consumption, talk less of exportation. Just like what happened to the banks, introducing standards is the best bet. I hope I made a point.

Now to address another issue; Like I said a while ago, I am a player in entertainment, to people who feel this is all talk and no action. I can’t count how many letters I have written to some of these people. I have discussed with my people in entertainment, musicians, directors, animators, etc (No actors, because they are so terrible nothing I say will ever help them). So know that I know what I am talking about. When a group of people have something locked down and are having a ball, they will not let anyone come spoil their fun even if you are offering them a lifeline. That is the state of the industry. There are people who actually have good intentions but they are being out muscled. A wind of change is coming (I Didn’t get that from Obama).

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@Baby Jinx

OMG, I can't believe that you are questioning my love for Nollywood movies. I am clear that Nigerians want better quality Nollywood movies, but I've seen time and time again how Nigerians compare Nollywood to Hollywood in terms of directing, editting, storylines and so on.

Of course I didn't read the synopsis at first. I immediately watched the trailer as I think most people would. I read the synopsis after and I still don't like it. Why is "The Tenant" a Nigerian movie, with only ONE Nigerian actor? That's weird to me. Don't you find that weird? Just because he is in a foreign country doesn't mean that they can't match him with a Nigerian love interest. My reason for liking Nigerian movies is because everybody is Nigerian. I've never seen a movie with Nigerians ever. I just love it. In America, we are often shown images of Africans living in poverty, lying in dirt with bugs flying all around. And then there's always this one white guy who loves to drive around Africa chasing lions and tigers while making friends with monkeys, like that all that Africa has to offer. So in my quest to know what Africa really looks like, I found Nollywood movies, I found photos and pictures of African weddings and cultural events. Nigerian fashion shows and so on. This is what I wanted to see and I like it.

I don't know if you live in America, but when I watch American programming, I am annoyed by the over-saturation of white faces. One day I just counted them all. I clicked through 159 channels and saw 154 white faces and 5 black faces. I simply can not stand it sometimes.

Like I said before, I've seen some Nollywood movies that attempted to be more Americanized and I do not find them interesting. "Beyonce and Rhiana", that was awful. My favorite Nollywood movie so far is "Letters to a Stranger". It's a very nice movie with an all Nigerian cast. There's nothing wrong with that. I felt the romance and love in this movie and towards the end I wondered, Did Jamima and Sadiq ever knock boots? No, they didn't, there were no sex scenes at all. Just love, communication, understanding and comedy. Its a very innocent movie and quite charming.

I don't know if you're being a bit condesending, but I'm very honest. I have no reason to over-state my position on Nollywood movies. I only wish that Nigerians would continue to see the potential that Nollywood has without becoming negative in regards to Nollywood movies that is already on the market. I believe in the Laws of Attraction. What people think about, they bring about. So if you believe that Nollywood movies suck because they are becoming too Americanized, because of editting and blah blah blah, then Nollywood movies will continue to suck. That's just the way it goes. The focus should be on what you want for Nollywood, not on what you don't want.

Sigh, I have professed my love over and over again. Do you not trust me? Well then this relationship is just OVER! I beg of you, please know that I am true. *bowing*

~~Ebony Mermaid

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@EbonyMerma

It's nice you love the Nollywood movies. . . it really is. I've read some of this reasons you like these movies and I am at a loss as to why you think making the movies better equals losing all the elements you like in the movies. We're are asking for better quality movies with good directing, editting, sensible storyline, great acting. . . in short we are asking for GOOD MOVIES, please let's be clear on that.

Re: The Tenant

Did you read the synopsis? Oh you know what, they do actually tell us what the movie is about in the trailer so never mind about reading the synopsis. Anyway, the reason I ask is because I don't understand why you'd expect him to be with a Nigerian girl when clearly the movie calls for him not to be with one. The storyline is about a Nigerian in a foreign country, doing everything humanly possible to remain in the country, the people he is around are foreigners. . . and it is believable that he'd be with a girl who isn't Nigerian. So why must we expect him to be with a Nigerian Girl just because he is Nigerian. . . which brings me to another point, the fact that a movie is a Nollywood movie does not mean everyone in it has to be Nigerian. I mean, that's like crying foul about an American Movie losing its "authenticity" because the entire cast isn't American.

And your statement "See that is what I am afraid of.  If white investors start to invest in Nollywood, the movies will become more Americanized" is so funny. . . I don't know what movies you've been watching but Nollywood Movies don't need "white investors" to be Americanized. They are doing a pretty fine job of it themselves. Do a quick google search on Nairaland for threads complaining about how so out of touch with the Nigerian way of life Nollywood has gotten because of their lame attempt to be more Americanized.

Finally, I have to give you credit on the approach you've taken. . . "The I'm a foreigner and I like Nollywood Movie" approach I mean. That's a sure way to keep from getting dismissed as just another Blind "National Pride" badge wearer and honestly, it's would have been believable if it weren't so transparent. Just between you and me, you over-played the "Oh they are so refreshing not like American Movies with all the sex and more sex" hand. Lmao, again I ask, what movies have you been watching? 

Lol, look don't get me wrong, you did a fine job but underneath it all, the usual "Nollywood Defendingness" we've seen in the likes of kanto and others. . . only gentler, just seeps out. So do us all a favor and stop with the games, we both know you ain't no foreigner in love with Naija movies (not that it's not possible. . . not just in this case).

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Oh, I read the story line wrong, he's not boinking a white girl in the movie, he is with a black woman. But she's not nigerian.

See that is what I am afraid of. If white investors start to invest in Nollywood, the movies will become more Americanized. In America, femininity is equated with being light or white. While masculintity is equated with being very dark. In this movie, that is what I see. A very dark man, with a lighter woman who isn't Nigerian.

In Hollywood, the America beauty standard is a white woman, or very light woman.

When you really look the trailer, there's only ONE nigerian in the movie. That's not good. As black people, we need to make sure that this doesn't happen. I like the current Nollywood movies, because everybody is black. I feel that Nollywood should keep it that way.

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http://www.viewnaija.com/video-2862.html Forgot to post the link

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Have you seen this Nollywood trailer yet. This movie is called "The Tenant".

The quality looks better, but I am mad because he's boinking a big nose white woman. I think that nigerian women are soooo beautiful. Why couldn't they use a nigerian woman? Now I'm ticked off. lol

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Sweetie, calm down, Don't get pissed. lol I was just stating my opinion. It's obvious that if the makers of these movies have adequate funding, the funds aren't being used to enhance the quality of Nollywood films. Just give it sometime. Everything must change, nothing stays the same. Not even the current state of Nollywood. I am the kind of person who is very optimistic. I have an idealistic viewpoint. Don't be so pessimistic, Nollywood will get better.

Sweetie, you are the one who compared Nollywood movies with Hollywood movies by asking if I would like to see Nollywood movies produced with the same quality as "Soul Food". You won't see Americans disliking Hollywood, because of a few crappy movies. Most Americans know not to waste their money on box office bombs. So that is my suggestion, the way to get your message across is to stop buying those Nollywood movies that you feel are crappy. And to say that Nollywood makes crappy movies all the time, I think is just your opinion. Like I've said before, I've seen some good Nollywood movies and I know that overtime the quality of Nollywood movies will improve.

LOL, you're so frustrated. Gosh. Yes, I feel that Nollywood actors work their butts off. They do their best with what they have to work with. Why don't you become more proactive, instead of reactive and do what you can to help since these Nollywood movies annoy you so much. Maybe you could start your own acting school. Or get a camera, lighting and your own funding and produce a top notch Nollywood film that will set a new standard for Nollywood.

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@ EbonyMerma

Don't take this the wrong way but i am starting to get pissed. I f you are that much a fan of Nolly you should know that its been like 20 years and the film made 20 years ago and today have no differences. About funding, believe me when i say there is more than adequate funding for good films but cos of greed and people who keep praising these crappy work of doom, the filmmakers go "Oh they are enjoying the poo we feed them so why not feed them some more poo instead of giving them ice-cream". Get my point

Hiphop became accepted world-wide because the world finally started listening and not because hiphop changed to suit anybody. Your theory is wrong cos gangster rap was even being enjoyed by white sub-urban kids. So if you think the world is suddenly going to wake up and say "wow, these Nigerian films are good why haven't we been watching them all this time?" Girl, you are in for the biggest shocker of your life , but then again you knew it was all a pile of bull didn't you.

And please don't compare Hollywood movies with Nolly please. You said, and i quote"You know what's different about the west is that America can produce a crappy movie and still be proud of Hollywood. The movie may tank at the box office, but people wont' say "Hollywood" stinks." Hollywood occasionally makes crappy movies, but we do it here all the time, its a business.

Puh-lease! No more crap about Nollywood actors working their but off. I mean come on you've seen some of these films, does that look like work to you, personally i think its just one big JOKE.

@vescucci

Relax my brother, the revolution has started. Trust me you'll feel it soon.

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Again, Like I said above, it's a slow progression. You know what's different about the west is that America can produce a crappy movie and still be proud of Hollywood. The movie may tank at the box office, but people wont' say "Hollywood" stinks. They will attribute the failure of a movie to the producer who produced it. So it's not Nollywood that stinks, or Nollywood that needs to change. Those Nollywood actors and actress work their butts off. It's really about bring proud of what you have while making tweaks along the way. Sometimes blacks/africans are so overly- critical of how the world views us. So there is some Nollywood embarassment on the board here because of that.

But just watch, over time, Nollywood will get more funding, more actors and actresses and a balance of storylines. With the emergence of a black president (hopefully) we will start to value our gifts and talents as black people and stop being so overly critical of how the world views us. We dance the best, we sing the best. Africa taught the world what it knows, the money just isn't there for us. That is what has to change, Africans are "all that" and people in the west have always hated that.

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[quoteIf you saw one of these movies in a format that was similar to , say, The SOULFOOD movie, you'd enjoy it more. TRUE or FALSE?[quote][/quote]

Oh okay, I see what you are speaking of. You would like for the overall quality of Nollywood movies to be enhanced. The film, lighting, transitional scenes and props. I agree with you on that, but Nollywood has to start somewhere. I have read that some Nigerians are embarassed by the quality of the movies. But there's no need to be embarassed, the success of Nollywood will happen with small steps towards are more bigger plan. I feel that Nollywood is on it's way.

Alot of the Igbo movies, are more westernized. I myself, enjoy a more authentic Nollywood movie, but the money can come from the west if Nollywood movies are made with a little more focus on western views with an African flare. I hate that it is like that, but it's the same with hip hop. There was a time when hip hop in America was very underground and only good enough for african americans and other blacks.

Then hip hop became more acceptable to whites, when the overall tone of the lyrics lacked social awareness. This began the dumbing of hip hop, which now lacks in quality. I think this is your concern with Nollywood movies. The thing about it is; Using hip hop as a comparison, Hip hop artists were able to make more money, and become more mainstream once the lyrics began to have no meaning. I am hoping that this dynamic and the social contribution of hip hop music will change with the election of a black president.

So once again, it's a slow progression. What I would recommend to Nollywood is to keep the black actors, keep them dark and beautiful, or light and spicy. Continue to show images of black people being African and enjoying African culture, but I feel there needs to be a balance of more positive storylines and that's the same with black movies here in America.

But just because the storylines are sometimes negative, I know that the actors are just expressing their talent and making their money. A movie can be as unrealistic as it wants to be, but that's no reflection on true Africanism, it's just a story and most people who want to see that, will. I just feel there should be more balance.

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Still wetting ur bed over Some Egomaniac Under Nairaland?

I nearly had a heart attack after reading EbonyMerma's take. After she 'enlightened' us on her position I guess it makes sense to love to see African movies with African mistakes, eh?

@everybody else. Is there anything we can do (asides complain) to help. I wanna be proactive but our situation has left nothing akin to a starting point.

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@EbonyMerma

Whew! now i get it. You just love the African feeling thingy, OK we can give you that. But what really jerks our chain (most of us) is the quality, a lot of the content sucks too, but the quality really kills us. We just wanna see better.

If you saw one of these movies in a format that was similar to , say, The SOULFOOD movie, you'd enjoy it more. TRUE or FALSE?

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