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Why Can't We Make A Classic Epic Nigerian Movie?

At dis day & age we still cant make good special effects in our movies.if 4 example we r 2 make an epic movie wit sorcery & d lot,hw exactly r we 2 do it.Its like d film,akers r too scared 2 look 4 investor 2 help them make somethin dat wld put Nigeria on d map 4 good.A southAfrican movie won an Academy award 4 d best foreign film.when r we goin 2 be able 2 do d same

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That's the big picture which many of us fail to see. Very unfortunate.

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If we make great movies, we can export them and use the foreign exchange money to develop basic amenities.

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homeboys, My point about going to the moon was the technological feat itself not the journey. my other point about nepa was if we had our own technology, we(obasanjo) probably wouldnt have blown 16 billion dollars with some Italian and chinese firms who sold us electricity generating machinery they know we cant operate. It always amuses me as to how people get wrapped up in certain things like sports and movies. I thank God that it employs people but It could employ a heck of a lot more people and pay much better. We probably will not be able to make an epic movie without that technological know how I am talking about. You need the know how to operate those $100,000 high tech cameras, boom, lighting, sound, special effects etc etc. My nigas look, we all like nija movies and want the best for our country and our people.

I have researched and researched and researched and I cant find anything made in Nigeria. All I find is parts imported from china and put together in naija. You would be helping me much if you could point me to a nigerian owned company that manufactures especially consumer electronics. I have business I would really like to steer that way. I am tired of making the koreans rich. I will probably start a thread on that issue. I really want to find out more info.

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hey bro, if u are not interested then i guess u should not even post a thing. i think this thread is for those interested in the film & tv industry and want to make a difference.

this industry is a source of income to many people and many get fed from this industry.

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I dont personally like those kinds of industries with little or no real value (eg sports, acting, music etc. ) I think we nigeria, should concentrate on the hard sciences and technology. We have a zero manufacturing base. We cant even make bicycle. India is getting ready to launch a moon expedition. Look at the success of china, taiwan, hong kong, india, singapore, south korea etc. They concentrate on manufacturing and the sciences. Every thing else will come after you have solved your real problems. I am 40 years old and there has not been a day in benin that nepa has not taken light in 40 years. What a shame.! we cant even feed our selves and we are talking about acting / actors.

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how are we supposed to make classics or epic nigerian movies when we know very little about our history and past. we do not have enough information or resouces about the history of the nation nigeria especially before the british came into nigeria.

apart from the issue of financing/funding of the epic, which is a major factor, i guess the researching for the story would be very tasking, except if u just want to do a fictional story.

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top nigerian epic movie of all time is sango

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Amazing Grace is overrated trash.

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am feeling you on that one.

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THERE IS A NEW TV SERIES COMING UP THAT I HEARD ABOUT ITS CALLED "D COMBACK" THE QUALITY OF THIS SERIES IS LIKE ALL THE WAY UP THE AND ITS AN ORIGINAL SERIES SO ITS NOT LIKE NIGERIANS ARE STEALING AMERIANCAN SHOWS AND I HEARD ITS GOING TO BE SHOWN IN NIGERIA BUT ITS SHOT IN AMERICA BY NIGERANS.I THINK THE NAME OF THE ENTERTAINMENT COMPANY SHOOTING IT IS CALLED PROMINENT CEASE ENT.THEIR WEBSITE WOULD SOON BE OUT.WE SHOULD ALL SUPPORT GOOD QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT FOR ONCE. The word going around this company is that they are ready to revitalize the Nigerian movie entertainment and start making epic high quality movies too that would be shown around Africa. yall should look out for them and support them so we can start seeing nominations of our movies in the Oscars and all.

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Intelligence is not the problem. The problem is money. How many of us actually buy original movies?

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the original movies are not bought because they are not worth buying, bought over 100 nollywood cds last year when i was in nigeria and they r more or less a pack of rubbish once i v seen them just once, so why ll i bother myself buying 'em again

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WE can't cuz the people at the helms ain't got the brains. And the people who got the brains don't give a fleeting f**k. That's putting it mildly!

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Listen guys blockbuster movie making in todays world is about taking a big chance on a piece of intellectual property with the high hopes that the financial returns on the execution of the production n marketing of the movie will be high rewarding.

The avenues by with such movies are produced n marketed are not yet available in todays Nigeria. High finance for 1; we are yet to c any1 ready to invest $100mil (=N=12bil) in a movie even $20mil(=N=240mil) is to high a figure to produce a Nigeria movie mainly becos the marketing channels are not yet high developed to accomodate the eventual recuparation of such investments.

We may c developments n improvements over the next ten years as more n more people demand goods n services such as movie theathers movie shows original DVDs n such like.

South Africas economy is very different from ours n can support such large investment in such a thing as a blockbuster movie. We'll need to move our country to the point where playing with the big boys in the international arena will become common place.

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Nigerian music is superb,original,no match.Music like Fela Kuti.Femi Kuti,Osadebe,Wasiu,Bright Chimezie,Oriental Brothers,Oliver,Shina Peters,name them,their music videos always come out natural and beautiful,it portrays african creatitivity,uniqueness,beauty, unity,independence and joy.

All the the same in diffrent languages,universal,only the real can fell it,white man's version of classical but in this case,it's for all,no boundaries.

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Why can't we make Classic epic movies?

. . .Because we can barely make non-classic, non-epic movies.

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Movie is about originality, vision,history, technology,propanganda,dominance and general way of life and ethics,all this we chronically lack as a people.

We are not in the position to influence others if we can't control our destiny.What we do and what people think about us depends on our concepts and for now,our concepts are undefined,infact we don't have,caught up between reality and fantasy.

How would you master a camera,a car,a ship or a plane if you don't have any inkling of how this things are made,we have to begin to see this things as objects we can create and make available before we can able to use them.This can be clearly seen from how we manage oyibo built infrastructures,total fallacy,we can't handle it,because we don't know what they stand for.Driving delicate machines in pothole and dust filled roads,instead of donkies,we have not even started the technology of donkey and horse carting.

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the problem we have in nigeria is a multi pronged one so it realli needs a good whine to kick start any type of reform which starts from forums like these,if it was expertise then we have the likes of mainframe,dj tee and so many i dont know who can shoot and direct quality movies,personally what im saying is that they havnt got funds to help them out neither are the government and private individuals giving them support the music artise are spending an average of 2million at least on a few minutes video while a 1 hour 30minutes movie is being shot for less than 1 million naira, that s got to call for some ddiscussion,

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Amazing Grace is cool, Try watch some SA films and see the difference.

Try and get a copy of Tsotsi the Academy Award winning film you would love it,

I watch an episode of Secret and Scandal prouced by Elvis Chuks and they stole the scene where Tsotsi took that baby to Miriam for bosom feeding.

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I sure non of you guys have had a look at the movie "Amazing Grace" otherwise, you wouldn't be talking like this. We know the Nigerian movie industry isn't really doing well in terms of producing quality movies.

But must we keep whining all the time?

Just because South Africa won An Academy dosen't mean we haven't had any good thing here. 'Amazing Grace' is one.

I am a strong critic of the Nigerian movie industry but i get really pissed when people start these comparisons.

Please let's stop it.

As already said, south Africa has always been ahead of Nigeria.

We are not doing really well but that dose not mean that we have never had something good.

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Note that there are few professionals in the movie industry. I am not talking about actors here , I am talking about studio work,videography, cinematography, effects and others. How many of you have bought any movie recently? Only video club owners buy movies and offcourse the movies many at times and re not worth watching again. How many SA films are quite tight because personally I have not watched any SA film apart from some parts of Sarafina.

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true, with all the stories we know of our tradition the sango,oya,ogun,obatala the ibo and hausa dieties we dont need to look for stories just good scrip writers and the funds, even a white/foreign scrip writer will write a good script if the theatre practitioners can afford it or raise the funds,hollywood has a network of banks/financial outfits that are dedicated to funding them and also individuals who will happilywrite a cheque for 50million dollars or more just by hearing the name martin scorcese or steven spielberg

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just like you know my mind, to seek for funds to produced a good movie is a problem.

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Some great works have actually come of Nigeria e.g. Mind Bending by Lola Fanikayode (TV Series) I call it great because of the quality of idea; plot; the cast; the setting and the quality of audio & video.

There were a couple of films from Hubert Ogunde: Aiye & some other one that had cats in the film.

I refuse to agree with those who compare ages i.e. S.A. started a century ago & 9ja stated a decade ago. The truth of the matter is, if you had defined your end goal, achieving it becomes less difficult. Nollywood simply hasnt defined their destination & that is evident in the lack of quality; poverty of ideas; lack of training (anybody feels that can also act).

We are in an age where 10 years in practice can be compared to a century in practice because Technological advancement has shortened the years but you can have the best cutting edge technology in your hands, if you dont know what to do with it, you are no diff from a slowpoke.

My perceived observation of Nollywood is a quick money making venture, so we can have 1,000 pages on naiarland on Nollywood & nothing will change.

If the objective doesnt change, there will be no Nollywood in a decades time!!!

Have you ever been to Alaba Int Market?? The markerters record Audio on =N=10 CDs (Quote Me).As long as such pratices continue, the industry is doomed.

My people, lets stop comparing ourselves with other nations, its disgraceful to do so. Why? We are not commited to Excelence. Simple!!

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Some great works have actually come of Nigeria e.g. Mind Bending by Lola Fanikayode (TV Series) I call it great because of the quality of idea; plot; the cast; the setting and the quality of audio & video.

There were a couple of films from Hubert Ogunde: Aiye & some other one that had cats in the film.

I refuse to agree with those who compare ages i.e. S.A. started a century ago & 9ja stated a decade ago. The truth of the matter is, if you had defined your end goal, achieving it becomes less difficult. Nollywood simply hasnt defined their destination & that is evident in the lack of quality; poverty of ideas; lack of training (anybody feels that can also act).

We are in an age where 10 years in practice can be compared to a century in practice because Technological advancement has shortened the years but you can have the best cutting edge technology in your hands, if you dont know what to do with it, you are no diff from a slowpoke.

My perceived observation of Nollywood is a quick money making venture, so we can have 1,000 pages on naiarland on Nollywood & nothing will change.

If the objective doesnt change, there will be no Nollywood in a decades time!!!

Have you ever been to Alaba Int Market?? The markerters record Audio on =N=10 CDs (Quote Me).As long as such pratices continue, the industry is doomed.

My people, lets stop comparing ourselves with other nations, its disgraceful to do so. Why? We are not commited to Excelence. Simple!!

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i guite agree with you, i'll deviate a little from the original post, take a look at an american movie of the 70s and follow the trend till present day american movies, the progression is noticeable, then compare with nigeria's movie of 2008 or the change from when we started producing movies then you will totally agree with the poster that we are not any word near quality except abundancy in quantity.

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It's simple - the movie industry sucks.

They've been way too concerned with quantity than we are with quality. Notice we isntead of they, meaning they don't care about their customers. They feel as long as they continue to purge out movies they'll continue to cash in. As a result of this they won't bother too much with the content of the homvies being created by them.

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becos it requires commitment, time (lots of time), hardwork and massive funding,,,,,,,,

everything Nigerians have an aversion to

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but its been well over ten years ago now,

we have all the common and even uncommon sense, these guys are not politicians ,so where are they going to raise like20,30,40 million naira or more for an epic movie whike the threat of piracy is a sword of damocles hanging over their head

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because we lack common sense and the expertise!

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"Sango" was an epic movie

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cause making an epic requires a huge amount of commitment,funding and near excellent script writers and also government participation all of which is lacking in the nigerian movie scene,the yoruba artise and the ibo artise andto a lesser extent the hausa artise are not united and they kind of do more stuffs along tribal lines, to make an epic ll need ten s of millions of naira which the government is not willing to fund,neither is any private individual ready to fund as well,the alaba boys are understandable scared cause of copyright

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I've been wondering this same thing too,

Our music has achieved world class status but whats up with Nollywood ? And we claim to be the lagest movie industry after Bollywood

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Ok, maybe I am not being clear enough. In 1995, 10 movies might be released a week. Out of that 10, u would have prolly 5 very good ones with good story lines. Nowadays, 200 movies would be released a week and u can barely pick out 20 good ones. I wont really be too excited about that kind of progress.

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Word from da Prof

Ppl should remember that Nollywood cannot just fly, It takes time and I know we shall get there soon.

Bros I think you should understand that all this stuff cost money and time, The time is what Nollywood Producer/Director don't have.

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Well, if u are talking about the number of home movies churned out , then yeah the industry have quadrupuled. But in terms of content , there is very little progress made especially when u put it in the context of the number of movies released into the market.

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[quote author=combrazor link=topic=121236.msg2075658#msg2075658 date=1206019907

(for one thing, South Africa actually has a *film* industry while Nigeria has a *video* market)

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I agree with u on that point. However, the proceeds and experience from the "video market" if managed well can be used to kick off an enviable film industry. I aint saying that we should have been ahead of SA but it is not out of place if we use them as a standard. Given the personnel we have in both the academic and commercial sector of the Arts industry, what South Africa achieved should not be intimidating.Nollywood is more than a decade old and it is still stagnant in terms of quality , concept and depth. I believe that is what the poster is trying to say.

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I dont really think it is out of place for the Nigeria film industry to aspire for something here. We are not talking about some country here like Niger or Benin. It is Nigeria. I know we have our problems , plenty of them, but we have shown it times without number that given the right environment we tend to excel in all that we do.

Amidst all the wackiness that exist in Nollywood, u can still see some talented artistes, scriptwrites and producers. The potential is there and I wont be surprised if one day some Nigerian films translates into a world wide success. It is already a success at least in West Africa.

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A lot, my brother. A whole lot.

If we were once known as a the giant of Africa and the Nollywood industry is increasing in leaps and bounds (in quantity at least) then I would say , a lot.

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