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Should Women Dress More Modestly?

regardless of religion,race or nationality should women across the world

think carefully about the cloth they wear?

do you agree? does wht women wear in the 21st century show a decline in moral standards?

does it harder for men to behave properly?

or does this attitude belong to a long- gone age?

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A free world a free country.

I struggle to understand why people have an issue with this subject.

If a woman wants to dress in a so called suggestive way: who decides what is suggestive or not.

Adults should be allowed to dress as they please; very soon you will have to give the responsibility to a rotten police or discredited government bureaucrats to decide who is well dressed or not.

In sharia land they can cover themselves head to toe. but please in the rest of the country it is very much ok to show some flesh. We are matured and grown up to look and still behave without resorting To Molest.

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@Dakmanzero

Maybe, maybe not,

He needs to be stroked! It's the only way :-)

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@Kimba.

Hmmmm.

Maybe you aren't a good guy who had a sheltered upbringing afterall.

My mistake.

I think Reverend's assesment of you is spot on.

I was actually about halfway through a point-by-point rebuttal of your earlier statement, but then I realised I was merely repeating my earlier statements and clarifying them after you had twisted them to your own perverted ends. In short- reasoning with a broken, looped transciever.

You called me silly. I suppose I *was* silly to assume you were capable of reason.

Not silly anymore, dude. Peace.

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@Reverend

Thanks for your picture.

I like it so much I have made it my desktop wallpaper!!!

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chai, I didnt know that this topic was still alive, thanks for the "notify me of replies",

so let me throw back all the balls in my court.

@Reverend

@darkmanzero

FYI, Nope, I didnt have a sheltered existence. Let me tell you: I come from a good family with a GOOD name. In fact, if I were riding on that name alone, I could get me places, but im not. If there is one thing we were taught was to remember where we came from, and to choose the right over wrong.

I grew up in the western and asian world where what I saw on the streets was quite different from what my parents told me about "where they came from". I have seen all the pollutions here and there. Its not a matter of having tight moral standards, its the ability to choose good even when evil surrounds, its the decision to stand and act right, even when wrong is the norm. Thats Kimba(if you wanted to know - again).

With reference to Reverend's Kinky Church, whether real or not real - thats not the issue, but the motive behind his actions is the problem. Its like putting up a website to say you are going to/actually robing a bank. Whether or not a bank is robbed, you sure deserve to get arrested.

what has "suicide bombers, religious bigots and illiterates" got to do with immodest dressing?

or maybe you are the suicide bomber, the religious bigot and the illiterate person promoting indecency?

The society are the People.

inserted here:

why is it that some people brought up in good homes join bad gangs and it becomes impossible for them to CHANGE? is it become they had CHANGED from bad to good and they have forgotten how to CHANGE back, or the fact that it is hard for them to CHANGE back because they have lost something? - the good in them?

(i was using your own words - CHANGE)

When what you had before is no more in your posession, is that a CHANGE or a LOSS? because definitely, you don't have something in equal?

don't you think those magazine owners, editors etc, are achieving their own aim at your own expense - i mean silly expense? while leaving you at a loss - because you will never have those girls as your own? And if you are married, what are you doing staring at those glossy pics, and concluding that those girls are better than your own wife?

I'm laughing at you, boy? Cant you see you are the one in the 10th century.

Note: the fish never eats the bait, it only gets hooked. It then dies.

And besides what is your own religion. You don't seem to have one. One not needs to have a religion to know what is good and bad and to choose the good over bad. abi, tell me more. Its more of what one is taught from home. The truth is a lot of people didnt learn anything at home, they live and learn the streets, and really they are the ones giving this world a bad image - what do you think?

Really, you can't be me, because you can't be me - plain and simple.

Its not so easy to stick with truth - is it? They say the truth is always bitter. So see, you can't be me.

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Once my daughter and her best friend wore the same to to school.

The friend was sent home to change my daughter not.

And only because the friend has a C cup and the top looked well what the teacher called not modest.

Same top .

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modesty is a relative term. followong the trend in fashion, is another issue, so what is needed is to follow fashion with a sense of decency! i am a size 8, why must i wear cloths for a size 6? i would only do that if i want to call attention to some parts of my body! but in the name of decency, do i have to wear a "babariga" to a formal dinner, or wear "iro and buba" to a beach party, just to be decent? what i believe in and i use as a slogan is. follow fashion with sense, every man wants his babe to dress up to occasion at all time, my ex was very much into that, and he could make you change your clothes as many times as possible until you please him. but really, women don't have to be Unclad even when they dress up to occassion!

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Just watching you, dakmanzero and kimba lol.

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@kimba:

The fact that "millions of people with virtue" agree with you is not the issue, here, sir. Remember that millions of people used to think the Earth to be flat.

This, of course, was before enlightenment. Enlightenment, it really accomplishes a great deal.

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@darkmanzero

I am a Christian.

Let the Muslim women dress as they want to dress as long as we can see who is under the cover(especially when they go out). IF they want to do Hijab in the confines of their own house, fine, but in public, for the sake of security, we've gotta see who-is-who.

Where is happiness in Lack-of-common sense

You should have said it sucks to be you coz you cant be me.

I am me - Kimba.

I think they were right.

You are sick.

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I wonder where you got this fact from.

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@Kimba.

So you judge a girl's morals by her dressing.

You are correct, as long as your moral code includes a dress code. If I tell my employees to wear "gbanjo" caps, I can be sure that the man with his head uncovered is a rebel.

However, my point is and remains: in rome do as the romans do. In akoka do as the akokites do. In Iran do as the Iranians do.

Dressing is only indecent when it goes against the norm, and over-dressing is EQUALLY BAD. Kimba, as far as I know, you are not muslim. I am willing to guess that you are not in support of muslim women going about in Hijab (full body covering). Example of what I'm saying.

If society permits a certain form of dressing, it is too bad for you if you feel the accepted standard is indecent. Sucks to be you. Sorry.

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1) Bad dressing leads To Molest is a load of rubbish. Men do not commit molest spontaneously. They plan it and lie in wait for their victims, or harrass them into submission by abusing positions of power. What the woman is wearing at the time has no effect whatsoever.

2) I take exception to your analogy of books and covers as it is insulting to women as a whole. To liken sex to 'usage' or 'publishing history' is sickening and disgusting. Remember- the men who crave tight vaginas are those that have tiny p3ni$es.

(Sorry mate, had to go into 'real mode' for that post. Feel free to retaliate)

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@kimba:

An original book by Shakespeare would likely have a cover that is quite worn, given that it would be centuries old, right? Would the literature inside still not be as good as if the book were a new pressing?

Is the message in Qu'ran or Bible that has seen many generations of family use not still the same message in a newly published version of the same?

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I beg leave me jare, the more indecent they dress the better for jo. i want to to see everything as they are not leaving things to the imagination.

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@drionelli

I was just reverse-quoting you when you said:

I believe molest is both a crime of Sex and Violence. In fact, attempted molest is both too.

and also: yes you are right by saying:

but, do you know that its true - that:

- good books have good covers, decent books have decent covers.

- When a good book is first published, it usually has a good cover.

As it passes from hand to hand, it gets dented here and there.

Soon its cover begins to wear-out - the definition of wear and tear.

have you ever seen a first-time published book with only a front cover and no back cover?

get the drift?

If i don't see a back cover on a book, its assumed that its not the first time the book is getting published.

- If the book had a cover, we might consider and give its literature a look, but what happens when its scantily covered? doesnt that smell an over-use.

when a woman is scantily dressed, she smells over-use!!!

Note: it doesnt mean that everywoman who covers herself with a blanket is an original, but the former is usually and very much true.

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What is modesty?

My modest dressing could be 'whorish' to u.

And i like this Quote.

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No, kimba, I am not indulging in self-delusion.

molest is the unmerited, unwanted taking of something. You have, no doubt, read "The molest of the Lock" which is about a fellow who snipped a small bit of hair from a lady whom he longed for.

And, as sammyjl noted, molest is not committed only against scantily clad, buxom, zaftig ladies. And, please don't tell me that you feel molest is pleasurable and passionate (your adjectives) for the Molester.

My friend, I am most respectful of the opinions of others. And, I am more than willing to consider and accept those opinions to have validity, IF they can be supported. I have many females in my family. They are responsible, productive members of society. What they wear does not in any way, shape or form change that. To judge a book by its cover is to miss out on some fine literature.

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@drrionelli

heres my answer:

you said that

You are the person confusing yourself.

If molest is not a crime of sex but a crime of violence,

is there a crime of sex that has nothing to do with violence?

is there a passionate, pleasurable and approved crime of sex?

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D way u dress is d way u'l be addressed.Women cover ur gifts modestly,its meant 2 drive ONLY ur husband gaga.He'l love u 4 keepin it 4 his eyes only!

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@Ferdimako:

You are someone who thinks clearly. Good for you!

@kimba:

"Before a fire occurs there's usually smoke." Might I ask that you explain the correlation that your metaphor has to my quote?

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The only reason one should cover any part of the body should be for health reasons. Any competent adult knows when to cover the body against temperature or disease.

No one should tell me to cover my body because my unclothedness will effect others.

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Please let the people in this house dress in a way that normal sinners will talk to them

I do not want the so called bible draging people here.

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Kimba!

OK, I think you are! 100% and I think that it is very sad. There is still hope for you, but we are running out of time.

I hope I have now answered your question!

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@drrionelli

Before a fire occurs, theres usually smoke.

@thimbook

Yeah right.

If you take Reverend seriously on this forum, "eh yah" is all I can say.

@Reverend

There are still some of my questions pending that you havent answered. Should we start all over?

@dakmanzero

See, wake up from your zero land. An 60-70 year old woman would have everything sagging and flying around without much control, but with a virtuous mind, she is still beautiful. On the other hand, a 20year old girl would have everything in the right places, but when such looks like a 'ho', then she's nothing but a 'ho'.

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wait till Sista and co read this.

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A person should be allowed to be Unclad in public if they choose to. How did the sight of a Unclad body become so tempting and irresistible that society would legislate against it and term it indecent.

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I blv u shld dress according to your consience and comfort.

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lovely pics by the way.

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where whatever u want to hear but also bear in mind the consequences.

i think ur mode of dressing does not mean u will get Molested or not. most crack head that molest people don't look at the way people dress. even during winter when people are all covered up with their winter jacket and jumper some still get Molested.

Molester are just interested in sex. sex they will derive from women.

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Ferdimako a man has to be able to take care of a woman to a certain level .ABI he is the man.

If he cannot he is a worm.

Most men will only approach a woman if she is alone.

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"a Unclad human being is not the definition of beauty"

eh?

Em, Kimba. Did the mothership fly off and abandon you here with us ugly ape-like creatures? If so, You have my sympathy. It really must be cold and lonely in your world!

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Everyone has the right to wear what they want.#

But for safty reasons she should make sure she is not alone when she wears some kind of things.

There are some cloths my daughter will wear i will only allow it if her boyfriend is with her or when she gets a car.

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So her boyfriend should be the one to be mobbed and Molested huh?

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man tht was hilarious

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You are definately right with that point mamaput.

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Modest african dressing.

Tell me any man would rather go for the first two.

than the last two

But its the same people

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We are all born free. If i dress to please a man , then am a slave

some before and after pic

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for 1, i'm not takin "Reverend" seriously on his comments (and this aint personal) neither am i gonna let my Li'll Sis anywhere near U but I believe for fairness sake some ladies should look more inwards before dressing up for tha road, 

some of them dont even know tht their dressing's giving off the fact that they've got  psychological /emotional inadequacies which they try to over-compensate for with the see-thru dressing; some just wanna belong cos their sense of self-identity is largely eroded, undeveloped or simply not there, and why not too?, when the provision for them to develop that internal constitution isn't provided, aint it the fad now to let the media raise kids for u?

was in a party recently and there were these "things" who were so eager to show off their "thangs" that conversations started amongst us guys that eventually landed some of my pals in trouble wiv their ladies, cos we sounded so harsh and hard on them girls, but so what, how u dress really does affect the way u seen, and if we must come to the biological brass tacks, its really all about "rods & holes, if u flaunt it like a ho', then expect da rods to wanna prod"!

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Lol at mamaput. Your daughters did that right?

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I realize that cultural and societal differences exist, so please let it be known that I'm not "baiting" or "flaming" with my observations, questions or comments. As I have noted since I came aboard nairaland.com, I'm here to learn and it is with respect that I offer my views and glean from others'.

@kimba:

Your observations are cogent ones, sir, and in close examination, actually much in keeping with my own. As to a group of either gender gathering to "way-lay" anybody, I'm sure that you will agree that such behaviour is categorically, indisputably, irrefutably wrong. It's wrong for males and it's wrong for females. molest is not a crime of sex, but rather a crime of violence, so why should immodest (however one chooses to define it) mode of dress be of any consequence in it?

@dennylove:

You say you tell your "babe" how to dress as it makes you "proud of her." Certainly, we all have our tastes as to what looks good (or bad) on others, as well as ourselves. However, is it not far more attractive that our significant others have a personal sense of individuality and self-confidence?

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The other girl in Native my the cousin and the other girl a friend.

PS am allowed to keep the pic here till tomorrow.

But i have recived a big knock on the head.

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I have removed the pic my daughter was nnoyed.

by the way about the shoes do not forget its cold here right now.

The Girls were out there with out jacket and that was not their dayly ware.

The girl in yellow with nike is my last daughter

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@ Mamaput,

sorry for questioning you. You are the mother. If she is 12, fine, so she is 12 and a very pretty girl.

And by the way, I like the pic:, the girl wearing the native dress that has a yellow flower stuff and is wearing rubber shoes, I mean the combination. Maybe I should go get an Agbada with a Nike canvas, its cool, looks hippy, more of a Westernized Tradition.

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The Law many times approves things that go against common sense. Primitive man used his common sense before the Law came. Laws have changed over-time but human beings are still born with a sense of right judgment.

There are some kind of clothes that defy common sense. There are some kind of clothes that put into question the level of common sense and maturity of the "dressed". There is a difference between WOMAN and girl. It might be acceptable for a girl, but not for a WOMAN.

And maybe you have forgotten what a GOD-GIVEN, SOCIETY-MANDATED and NATURE-GIVEN role that has been bestowed on the woman, a role that even Man doesnt have. You might have forgotten the role a mother plays in the life of a child, noting that these kids are/might be the next generation. Many people today are what they are(good or bad) because of their mothers. Even for adopted folks, a step father might not be able to play as much as a role as a step-mother. Now, for HER(WOMAN) to drag all her dignity on the floor of fashion and indecency is wrong.

A man can bare his chest and walk on the street. No questions asked, and Yes, men are supposed to dress properly too. Women don't way-lay men, gather together and molest a man. Its usually the other way around, a bunch of men, plan together To Molest a woman. Even if it was a 1-man to 1-woman thing, the man still has an upperhand.

The chest of a man is not the same as the chest of a woman, even if the woman were flat chested. Even if she were flat-chested, as in totally nothing to nothing, flat as a table, for the fact that she is called woman, she would draw stares from both male and female.

You don't have to be partly or fully Unclad to be beautiful. A Unclad human being is not the definition of beauty and I really don't understand where beauty and unclothedness(full or part) joined hand in hand, because this is all that the fashion of today portray.

Let the woman be herself, let her dress up beautifully, she was created to be beautiful. but let it all be decent.

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I mean the collected together about 500 with the big sister.

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kimba i will think that i know the age of my daughter .She is 12 years old she and her Sister and cousin garthered about over 300€ in 4 hours for UNICEF For a school in Senegal.

They did this in their spare time walking the streets in African dress to make more money

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by the way my daughter is not happy that her picture is here so

To be removed soon.

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