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What If Apple Decides To Make Their Own Game Console?

You know, i've been thinking about that for a while now. I mean, with Microsoft in the gaming industry with their X-Box, what if Apple decides to make theirs?

What y'all think?

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ubuntu doesn't only support x86 but power pc and check ubuntuforums.org for more info

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Bleep all consoles!!! They are only after to ripp the common man of his hard earned money. Talk about corporate robbery!!

Once again, Bleep all consoles!!!!!!

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of course it will look like nonsense on SDTV- until you lower the res to 640x480. or 800x600 (PAL tvs can handle 800x600 cos they have 525 lines). same thing with windows via tv-out. No biggie.

100k for the ps3 is robbery, dude. thats the alaba price. Better choose a more appropriate price and fling it before it becomes dead weight on your hands!

About the hdtv, i apologise- i thot u were talking about the overseas price. 130k in PH is good enough- if u had mentioned it before i got my laptop i may have gone for it instead! As it were, i just spent 200k on a 17-inch dell core duo with 1gb ram and geforce 7800 256meg dedicated video

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Yeah, i know ubuntu's pretty cool. unfortunately, ubuntu only runs on x86 processor architecture. the ps3 uses a Power PC based Cell Processor. Only distros like Fedora Core 5 and Yellow Dog Linux are specifically written for POwer PC.

Crazy thing i hear is if you install linux on ps3, it looks like shyte on SD Tvs cos of the native 640 x 480 resolution of SD Tvs.

As for the ps3, after the initial buzz, i've decided my xbox 360 suits me just fine. as such, i'll be selling the machine for perhaps 100 - 110k.

Any cries of protest? The PS3 still costs 600 dollars and is still pretty scarce in the open market in yankee.

@dmz

Th e130k quote i gave u for the CRT HDTV is the price in PH. It's being sold in PH for that price, so i guess lagos price should be around 110-120K? makes a nice alternative to other HDTV alternatives.

21 inches? Jeez, that's pretty small.

on the plus side, i'm sorry for nigerians who decide to go all out and buy the ps3 and 360. they'll soon see that SDTV doesn't do their next gen consoles any justice. try play GOW on a HDTV to see what i mean, or u can download the HD trailer from microsoft to see it running at 720p.

Don't be a wet blanket! gimme the GOW. Remember, i know where u live,

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@texa if u r thinking about installing linux plz try ubuntu its a wonderful distro

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ok, how much are u willing to sell?

Frankly, all my ps3-crazy friends have decamped to 360-land after seeing GOW! the only customer i can think of for u is a partner in pwc whos kids are bugging him for the console and who seems to think I'd know where to get it. However since the gist now is that ps3's can be easily bought on store shelves, i guess he's better off just buying one himself next time he goes to yankee.

whyen shipping wont shipping costs knock tghe 130grand into 200grand range? in which case isnt it better to just buy the one u got?

meeeen u will enjoy gow sooooo much more than me

220k is about the same price as the LG's over here in ikoyi. I'll pass till december next year. still life in the ole 21-inch sdtv!

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yeah well

I'VE GOTTEN MY 60GB PS3!!!!

So that means i've got my 360 and the PS3. however, i think i'll sell it cos i'm not equipped to run both uber consoles at the same time,

in the hacking spirit i'm known for, i'd like to install linux and several linux based emulators onm it, as well as a media player application to handle divx and vcds. then i'll sell. any interested buyers?

@dmz

the 32 inch samsung cost me 220k in PH, complete with wall mount. it's the samsung la32r71b (or la32r17b) model, and it works pretty good with the 360.

for cheaper HDTV gaming, samsung slimfit tv (34 inch model) costs about 130k here (it's a CRT HDTV) and supports 480p, 576p and 1080i. From what i hear, 1080i should deliver the same impact as 720p for the 360.

should be cheaper if you can buy overseas. as always, i promote www.orderbay.com for that kinda shopping.

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^. . .whatever! I said go back to Ayo Opon and Ludo!! No need for all that programming bullshit. Ayo Opon it is!

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Most game programmer job offers ask for proficiency in C++ so thats the most popular language, i guess.

In current times, it may become C# because of XNA

Dunno about the likes of darkbasic, etc but for homebrew games we see a lot of java (mobile phone games, etc), C++ (native mobile phone games) and flash. Not many games asking for a VB runtime, or whatever.

I actually wrote a full-fledged tetris clone in QBASIC! with an extra twist, too. called it 'MATRIS'

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U must be a fanatic Qbasic programmer, how far, can i see your escapades on Basic?

Meanwhile what kinda prog langs are used for these new games sef? is it Dark Basic or C++ or some other customized gaming language?

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lol! Monkey and bananas, GORILLAS.BAS. one of the games thats responsible for my programming career choice :-)

TP u still get atari 2600? ure hardcore o! I remember river raid- the only 2600 game i could EVER stand! the 2600 was crap by ANY standard, even the other consoles of that time (coleco, vectrex) were 1,000 times better!

My first game machine was a bbc micro, 8-bit, 32k ram. Less powerful than a commodore64 but at the time of release it was BIG IRON and more powerful than EVERYTHING ELSE! it had 3D GAMES! like elite, and scrolling fullcolour games like son of blagger. Oh the old days!!!!!!

you guys will never get your hands on my gears of war! NEVER YOU HEAR! a friend of mine ordered a copy from yankee and it comes in on the 26th, so it shouldnt be too hard to get if u dont mind paying 60 dolls. Maybe wait for the alaba bros to do the business, but beware, chipping 360's is a risk, new games could brick your 360.

TEXASZZPETE TELL ME HOW U GOT THAT 32 INCH HDTV. NOWWWWWW

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@ Gbade,

There's ayo opon on PC, it's called Wari.

@ Darkman,

Hope you still program in qb, havent' touched it since 2001. I even wrote 3 tutorials on Qbasic and a self extracting tutorial software with QB. I wrote them tuts in Qbasic, VB and HTML - twas fun cos it was a core course in 100L back then and peeps were disturbing me. I hope i can still write one or two codes, but that tetris is a hell of programming stuff o, you be kolo man then.

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@ Christino:

i second that sh*t! Let every muthafucka go back to playing Ayo [this one i love], Ludo and Draft and sh*t like that. I'm tired of the fuckin' West and their life-choking prices on they consoles.

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<pissed off>

I wonder why everything has to be hard in Nigeria. You want to get a console, you pay 40k, that's apart for money for chipping. You want to experience a game, you can only do that on an HDTV.

It's like these game/tech companies don't give a Bleep about Africa. Then the bleeping West would now see Africa as backward or some sh*t like that.

me don tire jo! make all dis consoles go kpafuka!!

I guess it's time Africans start making consoles for Africans!

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u should be able to get a 360 for like 40k now. lots of guys out there are selling theirs too, cos the games are kinda expensive,

on the other hand i heard that copied x360 games have hit alaba and are being sold for N1500. Nice.

As far as i know however, all this furore about next-gen machines will all come to dust in naija when people see not too much difference on normal Standard Definition TV. if you really wanna game next-gen, get a HDTV. i'm playing Dead Rising on my Xbox360 on a 32 inch Samsung HDTV @ 720p and i keep getting blown away.

@dmz

I will never sell my 360. Never!! Why? I connected my 360 to my laptop (running windows Media center) and i can stream all my movies, music and photos to the console and display in full on the TV. Oh, Boy!! All hail the media center PC,

if u haven't go Media Center Edition, windows media player 11 also does a good job of streaming media to the 360. and even a networking newbie like me was able to get them connected in a minute.

Now say after me: "I have sinned and thus i must send my Gears Of War to texazzpete ASAP, "

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@DMZ

dude! hand over the gears of war.

Ive got 14grand reserved for halo 3 and halowars but i think i will switch the halo wars for G.O.W.

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@ darkman0:

how much did you get the X360 for?

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@Neo:

Its cool if u think great graphics are the way to go. No problem there. However to set the record straight- remember when we were arguing about the power of ps3 relative to xbox? Isnt it funny that all games released on both platforms were identical? Even on the ps2 vs dreamcast they were not identical. And then theres Gears of war which is better than everything on the ps3.

Devs need time? Maybe. But mario 64 sure looked miles better than all ps1 games. Sonic sure looked better than all NES games. Streetfighter sure looked better han all genesis games. ff7 sure looked better than all saturn games. And all multiplatform xbox games looked better on xbox than ps2 despite ps2 being out for 2 years plus. Somehow i dont think 'devs need time' is valid in this case.

Face it: the cell is overhyped. Core 2 duo's are already outperforming it with all its 'spe's' or whatever. And consoles have always been more defined by their gfaphics cards than their processors. The cell is NOT for bam graphics. thats the RSX. and pc's have already left it in the dust. Look- the ps3 isnt ushering in a new world of graphics. PC's do that, year after year.

The only new console that is really doing anything innovative is wii. And since i love games with bam graphics (like you) I bought a 360 cos it has more games, better games, and better graphics than anything ps3 has put out at the moment. Maybe when killzone comes out we'll change our minds but for now i own a copy of gears of war (YES I DO!!!! EXPRESS DELIVERY FROM YANKEE! BY A CHICK WHO ACTUALLY WAITED IN LINE TO GET IT FOR ME!!! SAY I ROCK! OOOOOOH YEAAH!!!!!!!!) and there is NOTHING on ps3 to touch it!

take that, graphics man!

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nope. the cell isn't an innovation for gaming. it's not even an innovation for graphics, as a well specced core 2 duo machine with a geforce 8800 gfx card will pump out better visuals than anything seen on the ps3 till date. resistance: fall of man can't hold a candle to Crysis (still in dev state).

all hail the power of the CELL (sarcasm).

read the buzz on the cell. you'll hear developers talkin about how the cell allows u to render more realistic water and improved physics. so what i wanna ask u is this: since when did leering over smooth ripples or seeing a guy you just shot tumble 'realistically' change gaming?

why do we game? we do it for fun! and i sure had more fun playing Halo 1 on my pc than playing Prey, even though prey had far better graphics. i'm sure most real gamers will agree with me.

the Wii gives you somethign the ps3 can't even hope to do; a new way of playing games. it's not about 'newfangled controllers'. it's about you being more immersed in the game itself, about a fun and novel way to control games.

what this means is that as far as you're concerned, as long as a game has trees with 100000 polygons, it can't be poor.

Daikatana had better graphics than Deus Ex. guess which one is regurlarly listed as one of the worst games ever on pc,

Try it out. the Wii will rock YOU!

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so introducing never-before-seen semblance of reality isnt innovation? the CELL isnt innovation in gaming? only new-fangled joypads pass for innovation? are we using the same english here?

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As a Apple Fanatic/groupie/junkie i will grab thier console just so i would have it

I have played and Finished Gears of War, and it definately outclassed PS3's Fall of Man

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texazzpete

I agree with you completely. Couldn't have putting it any better

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not really. zune cornered only 9% of the sales chart when it came out. guess which other iconic mp3 player has the biggest portionof the sales? the ipod!

i agree with you, apple products are overpriced, and i hate it when apple fanboys come crowing about the beauty of they devices, not caring that they paid far more than they're supposed to.

i mean, i love my ipod video but apple not allowing you cahnge the ipod battery is criminal. from what i hear, the battery performance is seriously degraded over time, and when it dies, you gotta buy another ipod. that sucks

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Those extortionists called Apple?

Thanks to Linux in the first place! Now back to topic.

Okay, they'll invent their extremely gorgeous i-Consl (for instance) with 256MB RAM, 4GB HDD two wireless gamepads with keypads and remote for your i-pod (no viruses), free online connectivity and a few bad Bottom games (i don't see them getting all the game formats in a single year) and then ask us to buy each for $5,000. Yes, and that's it!

Meanwhile, if Apple are strictly hardware based, though they have their OS and other programs, then SONY are Double Hardware based!

In summary, their console will get all of the hype and publicity and will sell like wildfire (everyone knows and thinks the apple is classy, packaging and finishing is always excellent and attractive) but the world would go bankrupt in a year because of the prices, and Koreans would need to work even harder to produce its counterfeit!

The guy who hacked the i-tunes is a 23 year old boy, Johansen (i guess) and I hope he hacks Zune too (Zune has reportedly upstaged the ipod in the mobile mp3 player market, microsoft's marketing is one of the world's best - aggressive and domineering). The hacker has set his company up but might go to jail if Apple press for charges or gain worldwide fame if they lose! All the same people are enjoying his hackery (though it's not free to get his software). I'll post the link when I get it.

The cheapest Apple lappie is $1,200 (before, the closest was $2,000) when you can get some brand new "correct pc based lappies for $400).

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@dmz

not too keen on installing linux on my pc when windows does all my work, and i got my windows for free with my laptop. linux isn't bad, the problem with these open source gurus is the ultra-religious vibes they put out, posing as crusaders againt the 'great satan' microsoft. what these guys dont realise is that guys like me just want stuff that can do all your work as easilty as possible, and as far as windows does my work,

the ps3 is another matter. it'd always be hooked up to my tv and so i can as well install it, using usb devices for storage. since i plan to get a 32 inch HDTV soon enough, i can work on a large screen, giving my eyes a rest.

as for ther ebay stuff, no thanks! $800 is still too mcuh to pay, i got in contact with one guy in lag who claims he can sell me a ps3 for 90k. he probably obtained his console through illegal means but who cares. although i get vibes like he wants to scam me, but i don't scam easy.

by the way, my fone crashed again, so i lost your number. just mail it to me so i'll always have it.

if you need a way to get new games, you can try www.orderbay.com. these guys help you order stuff from overseas for 10% of the value. it's totallyon the level, it's run by my friend's sister. i'm trying to order a 32 inch HDTV (sony BRAVIA) from amazon.com with this. buying a HDTV in nigeria is sheer lunacy.

the wii also sounds interesting, but like most gaming barbarians, i wont touch a co0nsole that doesnt have soccer on it.

also i've gotten the condemned for pc, so if you want it,

Festus/jinus recently told me he has Xbox 360 oblivion so you might see him for that

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Inventor of what? what *significant* thing did apple invent?

the mouse? No

the Graphical OS? No

shiny electronics? no

MP3 players? No

So WHAT did they invent? The only really significant invention I can think of is the home computer with the Apple I, and even that wasn't really an invention.

@TP

Glad to see u back on NL. If u want a ps3 u can get one now, the prices on ebay are actually dipping low to around 800 dollars, they will spike again as christmas approaches so start your 'runs' sharpsharp. And why would a ps3 get you interested in linux? Just grab a copy of linux user magazine, free distros on every cover dvd! Or use that your super link and download some ISO's already. I can already tell you that whatever crap sony puts on the ps3, it sure wont be linux for *real*, or the ps3 will become another psp, where people just buy it, install hoembrew, and play emulated games and downloaded ISO's.

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thank u jare Alexis, Apple, slick all d way!!

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One good thing I like about apple is that they are innovative - if they do make a game console, I think it will be slick and will be worshipped as their other products.

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Now that you've mentioned this possibility, it seems inevitable: of course they'e going to build a game console!

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Lol, sorry mayne. It's the 360 and wii for me!

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duh

any apple console will look sweet, as usual, but in reality would be slightly underpowered, while apple attempt to convince you that you don't really need all that much power,

they'd go all proprietary on their graphics card, and get trumped by Nvidia's and ATI/AMD's offerings. they'd have a unique interface that'd such for games.

hgamers dont care if their systems look cool. as long as they have enough horses under the hood,

BTW, i guess i'm getting a ps3 soon, if i can get one to buy, that is. ,

the ps3 seems set to do what all my friends failed to do : get me to install and use linux!

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Lol, you must really like Linux then! Cos ur manner of speech suggests you'd like open source very well.

Talking about ps3s. It's going to be hell cracking that annoying blu-ray technology. But then like one hardcore gamer said, "what one man can build, another man can crack".

Another thing i find peculiar about the ps3 is their mouth-running about specs and tearflops and microprocessors and the blu ray optical drive. Them assholes. Reminds one of the N64. Most powerful as at then (before the dreamcast, that is) and what killed it? Basically greed. Releasing games in catridge format, when mofos like the playstation were doing theirs cd format style.

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dude, i dont have much stink against the fruity corp; just i think its evil to have a lock in ipod. hey, i love Mac. i hate ipod cos i think the Creative Labs Nomad and Rio Riot are better looking with cooler features. but personallty i got nothing against Apple.

as for microshite well, hey, the security flaws are deliberate. they justify updates (and quick version fixes), and im sure you know windows updates is a clever tool to find out who's running on a pira windows.

awoof dey run belle, abi? yes, but if the thieving megacorps are going to keep demanding our souls just to gratify ourselves with their poorly written programs then i guess its best to just snarf it and teach 'em a lesson. i hear it'll be more expensive now to mod a ps3 than to actually buy the darn Cds but i tell we dont care; we'll mod the machine and buy pira games or die trying.

i support any and all hacker communities out there and if they need paypal donations let 'em ping me.

END OF RANT.

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Lol, neoteny awoof dey run belle o!! So u'll give 'em slack based on microsoft's poor security system.

Dude, nothing good comes free and nothing free comes good. . . .(well, almost lol).

Dude talkin' about big corps exploiting ppl, they all do it. No company's innocent of it, so don't cherrypick Apple out as the scapegoat.

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@gbade.x

yet you've not come up with any manuifacturer havin the same exploitative business model far as mp3's are concerned. as for the hacker, well, its been done before by b0iler from cyberarmy like over 2 years ago. hey, i have an AAc player software for smartphones by viking informatics so what else is new?

let me tell you something about the hacker community: they only hack/crack stuff they have to pay money for; the more restricting the inbuilt anti piracy mechanism, the better the challenge. and the more hacker tools like softice, ollydebug, winhex and reshacker float freely around to give open source a run for its money. hey, even you can hack that apple code.

i'll cut 'em some slack if they and the likes of you will back off gates and his microshaft, after all they made it easier for us to have a field day havin a go at crackin and shite.

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@ neo,

u know, i was on google news the other day, and there was this hacker (can't remember his name), that cracked the code preventing ppl from playing itunes songs on other mp3s. In that same news, it was said that the same could be said about other mp3 makers.

My point is, Apple does this (aac format), BUT the same can be said about other mp3 players.

Cut 'em some slack will ya?

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Me thinks it wld be tite

the console wld be the sweetest thing uve ever since

very fast and smooth graphics play

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@ neoteny,

dude, the same applies to other companies with online music stores. Just as u can only play songs downloaded 4rm itunes on ipods, so is the same with companies with their music players.

And what the flamming Bleep does the french have to do with it?

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i think it WAS monopolizing to have itunes music play only in ipod. but thank God for the french!

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Lmao!! Why is it errone's hating  on Apple?

@neoteny: you must be 1 of dem microsoft groupies.

Concerning i-games, it depends on the way u look at it. If u look @ it with Apple playing dat monopoly droppings, then there wouldn't be much games produced. And i doubt if them fellas at Apple would try that strategy.

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it'll stink.

it'll be a drab white, have a sillly shuffle wheel, scratch-prone fascia and allow you access to i-games only after paying an eye/teeth.

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what if? they don't?

the competition will be really tight. apple loves being the inventor u know?

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@ Neo,

the future of gaming lies in graphical display? Puhleeeze! The future of gaming lies in being innovative, not the former!!!

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