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What Are Your Views On Homosexuality?

this is a topic that has bothered me for quite some time, i have always tried to keep an open mind on my views in Life,but there are some issues that you cannot just be tolerating of,it's either you are for or against it.

homosexuality for me is in black and white ,there is no middle ground for me it is a Sin, against God and against nature but at the end of the day we are all sinners.

i don't think it is right to disriminate against anybody because of their sexual orientation or religion, and i have met some open homosexuals who do not feel there is anything wrong with them and they are entitled to love whomsoever they want to.

what are your views on homosexuality? can you be friends with an open homosexual? can you have your kids,siblings and friends around them.

do you even consider it a sin to mix with this homosexuals ,africans have strong views on homosexuality but at the rate the Western world is becoming accepting of this gays ,have your views been diluted?

personally my views on Homosexuality are still the same,i still consider them to be living in sin. but i do not consider it to be a taboo to talk with them or even be friends with them. but when i have kids i'm not sure if my position will remain the same. what is yours pls share.

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na wa o, so, wit wot you are sayin people shuld lean hw to support dem (gay). For me sha, it is unGodly and dis is a satanic idea, only God will george on the last day.

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Dear Nairalanders,

Lets me contribute my two cents to this discussion. I hope you guys keep an open mind and respond politely if you wish. The issue of homosexuality is a complex yet it is not supposed to be so complex. Like they say, you cannot understand another man's situation if you have not walked in his shoes. And if you are heterosexual, you can never understand the struggles and experiences of a homosexual person. I just hope that you will try to put yourself in those shoes for a minute while you read this. The most important thing I want you to do is to keep an open mind and not equate homosexuality with just a sexual act. Afterall, when you think of heterosexuality, you dont think of sex. You think feelings, love, the need for human companionship and maybe sex down the line. But sex is not the building block. In the same vein, a 15 year -old boy may discover that he only has same sex feelings but he never actually engages in same sex activity all his life as he enters the priesthood. That doesnt make him any less gay. He was gay at 15 and he will be gay all his life. that he never engages in the a sexual act doesnt change who you are attracted to. Or do you think priests and reverend sisters and 12 year old kids are asexual? Ofcourse not. You may not be engaged in sex, but it doesnt mean you do not have a sexual orientation. Its either gay or straight. So please lets disentangle this discourse from sexual intercourse. Its about who you are drawn to emotionally, physically and spiritually.

First and foremost, I believe the cardinal bone of contention here is that most people find it had to believe that people are born gay. The real question is, Are people born heterosexual? If you believe that you were born heterosexual then do you think it is possible that some people were born gay? I want to assume that if you are straight that there was never a point in your life when you were attracted to both males and females; after which you then decided to choose the opposite sex. Did you ever get to make that conscious choice? I doubt it. Then why do you think that a gay person was given that choice by God? Why would anybody ever choose to be attracted to the same sex when he knows the price that he will pay in society? The risks are numerous- your family will disown you in a heartbeat, all your friends will abandon you and any hope for a real fulfilling future is gone; all because for no reason, you hit puberty and you discover that you are different.

If you are straight, you may not understand this. But I assume that if you are a guy that around the age of 11-12, you started becoming interested in girls. That is normal at puberty. Imagine if at that age you find yourself with no attraction whatsoever to the opposite sex, but only to your own sex. That is the reality of a gay person. You try to fight it. You try to go to all the church deliverances and say all the prayers and promise God everything if only he will just take it away- If only he will just make you normal. Believe me, that is the only prayer of gay people. You try hard to keep the secret and you also are afraid that if anybody finds out the secret, that you may be mobbed in a heartbeat. It is hard enough for a heterosexual teenage boy to stay focused in school and stuff because hormones are raging and you want to chyke guys and all. Imagine how much harder it is for gay people when you know that what you have is what Oscar Wilde called 'the love that dare not speak its name'. You can't tell anyone about it. You just live with your secret into your twenties. Some are bold enough to carry on with secret relationships with their peers just like their heterosexual mates are doing. Others torture themselves everyday because they cannot reconcile what they feel inside with what their religion and society has told them that they should feel. Its no wonder that the rates of teenage depression, suicide and all is so high. In the US, teenage suicide among gay teens is 7 times what it is in heterosexual teens- This means that for every 100 suicides among teenagers, more than 80 of these will be gay teens - usually those struggling to come to terms with their sexuality or experiencing rejection or discrimination from their friends and families. Do you think 14, 15 year old teenagers will want to kill themselves over something they could change? Think again. Do you know the kind of emotional turmoil that a gay person must be in to think that the best solution is to take your life and just escape this earth and its hardship? I'm sure you cant begin to imagine this. But like I said, try and walk in the homosexuals shoes for a minute because unless you can do this you will never understand his life experiences.

But then, you are a human being- with hormones and real feelings. Just like a 15 or 16 year old boy would see a girl in his class and like to 'toast' her, there also gay people who are surrounded by people that they are attracted to- but who they dont want to be attracted to. Its simple biology. Every human being has the capacity to love and be loved. But people do not control the sex they are attracted to. If you are straight and think it is a choice, I bet that If I offer you a billion dollars to turn gay, that you will not be able to. And by turning gay i mean that you will be genuinely attracted emotionally, psychologically, spiritually and then physically to someone of your same sex. Believe me, you cannot do it. Why? Because you were not born that way. It is the same way for people who are gay. They have tried and tried and begged God and done everything but it doesnt go away. Most importantly, most gay people do not have the natural attraction to the opposite sex - so what should they do? They just cannot connect emotionally, spiritually and physically to the opposite sex as they can to their own sex. Its plain and simple. It would be easier for some if they had a natural capacity to like both sexes- truly Bisexual people have that capacity and so they can swing both ways naturally. But for most gay people, they are forced by societal and religious pressure to go into heterosexual relationships that they are not naturaly equipped to go into.

In Nigeria, we dont even acknowledge the existence of homosexuality and so I'm sure that we may have no statistics on the magnitude of this issue. If we are to go by what the researchers say, 2-5 % of every population is gay. Every population means every population and not just Western population like we want to believe. In other accounts, this proportion is closer to 10%. This will mean that close to 15 million Nigerian are most likely gay. Gay people seem to be non-existent because in truth, heterosexuals are about 80-90% of people and they will always be the majority. Its just the way nature works. As the most populous black nation on earth, it also means that we have the highest concentration of black gay people on this earth. I am not saying this to alarm you, but it is just a reality of life and nature that will shock you probably because you may think that you dont know too many gay people personally. But then, who in his right sense will tell another person in Nigeria that he is gay. People just carry on with their secret affairs and pretend that everything is ok. We are a nation that is notorious for hidding things under the basket.

Most gay people go ahead and get married. For most of them, they may like and even learn to LOVE their spouses, but they will never be IN LOVE with their spouses because they can never connect on that level with them. And I believe that every one deserves to be with someone that is truly IN LOVE with them and not someone that is using them as a cover for the busy-body Nigerian society that will begin to wonder why this middle-aged Nigerian man is not married. If you are woman, you want a man that loves you completely and you will be utterly heartbroken to find out that your husband is gay and is having affairs with men outside. Yes, with men. A married gay man will not have affairs with women, it is with men- because it is men that he is truly attracted to and their is nothing that his 'poor' wife can do to change his biology or to give him emotional and yes- sexual, satisfaction. And believe me sexual satisfaction is a big part of every relationship- gay or straight. Most importantly, his poor wife will not be genuinely loved and may not have a fulfilling sex life because the man is not genuinely attracted to her. So we have an innocent woman who is trapped in a loveless marriage with a man who may contract an STD anytime if he is not careful. This is what they call the 'Down low syndrome' among African American communities- gay men who are forced to live straight live and have wives and girlfriends. Believe me, this scenario I just recounted is living and thriving in our own Naija as it is in all parts of the world. In more open cities like Lagos, there is a thriving gay prostitution scene where 'respectable' men go to satisfy their passions. Some men, enter into long term relationships with their 'buddies' while still keeping their wives. Secrets, Secrets and Lies everywhere. I'll use the handedness analogy for this issue because it is very appropriate. About 10% of people are born left-handed while 90% are born right-handed. Its an in-born thing which in times past was seen as an abomination. There were times when left-handed people were persecuted and killed (you can do your research on this). In Nigeria now, left-handed kids still have it tough. Most parents try to change their kids and most parent succeed in making them learn to use their right hands. Still, those kids never truly lose the function of their left hands. They just learn to become ambidextrous and they learn to write and eat and take stuff from their elders with their right hands. But after all said and done, they are all still most comfortable with the left and always resort to it when no one is looking or when they are all grown up. For a small percentage, they will never learn to use their right hands and they are the ones whom their parents will always flog. Still, they never are able to learn it. Its just their nature. It is that way with gay people. You may force yourself out of societal pressure to be with the opposite sex but you never truly loose your attraction for your own sex. Most times, this leads to cheating in marriages. For the small percentage of gay men and women who cannot even fake an attaction to the opposite sex, there are like the perpetual left-handers- unable to conform to society's expectation, not out of their own stubbornness but because of how God created them

Who do we blame for this kind of double life? It is easy to blame the gay man or woman, but then we should ask ourselves- what role do we play in cultivating this kind of double life? Isnt society to blame for being so hostile to the idea of homosexuality that people are forced to live in the closet and deny an essential part of themselves? I'll tell you this, if you know anybody that is openly gay in Nigeria and has chosen not to marry but to be honest with themselves, you should go up to them and give them a handshake. Because they have defied all the pressure from religion and society to do the honorable thing and live life with dignity instead of deceiving an innocent person into marriage. They are the ones that have chosen to obey their consciences and be honest. Most importantly, for that gay married person, can you imagine how unhappy his life is. Knowing that you have to lie everyday and that you cannot truly be yourself or be with someone you may truly love because of society. Its a hopeless situation and thing can only begin to get better when people realise that the gay person cannot change to a heterosexual anymore than the heterosexual can turn gay. People are just made that way by God for his own reasons and it does not go away anymore than a heterosexual person suddenly stops being heterosexual. Once we learn this truth, we can begin to accept people for what they are and then they may feel comfortable living honest lives. But we cannot expect people to acknowledge their homosexuality when we as a society will want to treat them as second class citizens.

As a gay Christians will tell you, they have made peace with themselves and they know that God loves them the way they are. They do not consider a same-sex loving couple in a monogamous relationship to be a sin and I dont either. By this relationship, I mean 2 people of the same sex who are comlpletely devoted to each other and have chosen to build a life together. In some countries in the West and even in South Africa, they are legally married and some of them have biological or adopted kids and are as normal as every family. The only difference is that both partners are of the same sex. And please get your head out of the gutter and dont think about what they do in bed or how they do it in bed because it is not anybody's business what happens in the confines on one's bed chambers. This may seem silly to some of you but I ask you to read on. First and foremost, I want you to use you brain because God gave it to to you for a reason - to think independently and make up your mind on issues. Ignore whatever you have been told that the Bible said and look for God's answers on your own. Now, there is a school of thought that says that Biblical interpretation should be taken literally- that is, just exactly the way it is written in the Bible, while there is a second school of thought that says that you should look at everything said in the Bible in the context of the times in which it was written. i belong to the second school of thought.

Let me begin by saying that we all know that people say that the Bible is the 'word' of God. I agree that the Bible was inspired by God; but it was not written by God. It was written by inspired men who wrote in their own 'words' and not God's exact 'words'. This men wrote within their own socio-cultural context and this is abundant when we consider the things in the bible that we ignore today because it doesnt make sense in our time. The literalist will always throw the passages in Leviticus that say that a man must not lie with another man because it is an abomination. However, the literalist also tries to forget verses in that same Leviticus that say that if a woman is not a virgin on her wedding night, that she should be taken back to her father's house and stoned to death; and that a disobedient child should also be stoned to death. This same Leviticus said that it was an abomination to mix two types of fabrics together. It also calls it an abomination to eat shellfish. And the list goes on and on, It called all these things an abomination. Yet today, we all eat shellfish, we all wear ankara and brocade in the same cloth and we all eat shellfish. Most girls are not virgins when they get married and their husbands do not return then to their fathers and stone them to death. Why then do we persist in

hurling these passages at gay people. These portions of the bible make it clear that the people that wrote it did so in line with their own cultural practices thousands of years ago. In this age and time, some of those passage will be seen as sexist and child abuse.

Now, we know that the Bible was not written in English. Infact the Bible as we know it was not compiled in its original language until hundreds of years after the death of Christ when the Church decided to put together a Holy Book based on religious writings. Of course by then there were so any writings. These writing were mostly stories handed down by word of mouth and passages by the early Christians to successive generations. By around 400 years after the death of Christ when the Vulgate bible was compiled, there were a lot of books written and it was up to a select committee of men to choose and decide which books will make it into what we now know as the Bible. Out of thousands of books, they choose the 66 books that we now know as the Bible. Or do you think that it was only Matthew, Mark, luke and John that told stories about Jesus and had it written into books? There were many other Gospels. There is the Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Barnabas,Gospel of Truth, Gospel of Peter, Gospel of Mary and the list goes on. Why werent these ones selected? The point I am trying to make is that the assembling of the Bible as we know it was done by human beings like you and me with their own guiding philosophies and interests and so it makes no sense when someone assumes a literalist stance and says that the Bible provides the answer to everything that is God's will.

Now we know that the bible is full of passages that make it clear that the place of a woman in society is akin to that of a man's property. She is to be seen and not to be heard. A man could marry plenty wives in the Bible and nothing was wrong with that- Moses was married to Sarah and still sired a child through her maid, Solomon had hundreds of wives. This was normal in their time, but in this age and time, we do not subscribe to those beliefs because we whether we like it or not, we agree that the bible is context specific and that those things that were acceptable in that culture do not apply now. Just look at the high rate of divorces everywhere and you will agree that we are not following the bible to the letter. Now it stands to reason that if women were invited to the table when the final 66 books of the Bible were being out together, that there will have been some protest against some books that expressly permit discrimination against women. For example, we have a place in the new testament that says that women should not speak in a place of worship and should instead sit and listen. Up till date, some churches still use that to ban the adoption of women into the clergy. But tell me, do you think that a woman who is spirit-filled is any less an instrument of God than a man? There are numerous instance where the Bible has been used to denigrate a particular group- whether women, slaves or homosexuals. But i bet that if people fro any of these groups were present during the final compilation of the Bible, that the parts of the Bible that harm them will not have made it into the final draft. My point- the Bible is a book inspired by God but written by man and put together by man to reflect his peculiar leaning. My point- Learn to look at things for yourself and question a bit- Because as someone said, it is only by questioning your faith that you van find a deeper faith.

We know from the translation of the Bible over two thousand years that it has been through many languages. The original languages in which it was first transcribed are mostly non-existent now. And we also know that the 'homosexuality' did not appear in the English bible until about 1949. Before then, most translations referred to some of the verses as male prostitution and co. It is no surprise that homosexuality as we know it today- a loving relationship between people of the same sex, was not written of in the bible because the Biblical writers did not have any concept of sexuality or same-gender loving relationships like we have today. How can the bible then condemn homosexuality when the word didnt make it way in there until about 2,000 years later. it is in the same way that we dont expect the Bible to give us answers to issues like Nuclear energy or assisted reproduction techniques or Information technology because in the biblical times, they had no concept of this.

To be sure, the bible condemned male prostitution- just as it did for female prostitution. And it is this word that many biblical scholars feel have been mutated over time to no become homosexuality in the bible. But then, how does male prostitution equate with a present-day same gender-loving relationship like we know it to be today where you have partners that are committed to themselves physically and emotionally just as heterosexuals are?

And to be sue too, Paul condemns people who have given up their 'natural' desires to pursue the same sex. The only thing is that for the homosexual, what is 'natural' is attraction to the same sex. Being with an opposite sex partner to the gay person is as unnatural as forcing a heterosexual to sleep with someone of the same sex. The level of revulsion is the same. The only difference is that society forces the homosexual to effectively 'molest' himself/herself, go against his nature and do it. It is not a surprise that Paul felt that people were giving up their natural desires. Afterall, the concept of sexuality as we know it today was not their in his time. And so I'm sure that he assumed that it was only the kind of desires he had that were the 'natural' ones. In that way, he is no different than you the reader or most heterosexuals who always wonder what the f*** is wrong with gay people? Why would they give up what you have and that which you assume is natural to most people- heterosexuality, to pursue homosexuality? The answer boils down to what I have said earlier- if you have not lived in a gay person's body and gone through what he has gone through- the hormones, the exclusive same-sex feelings, the utter absence of opposite-sex attraction throughout life, then who are you to tell him that his feelings are not 'natural'? It is just like telling a left-handed child that his 'bad' habit is not natural and that he should stop it. This a very telling analogy because almost all gay people who speak truthfully say that they have always known that they were different. Some know as early as 7-8 years in life. They might not have the word for it at that age and they certainly are not engaging in any sexual activity at that age, but they do know that the way they feel about people of their own sex is not quite 'normal'. So to base the condemnation of homosexuality on what St. Paul has said would be not to use our God-given intelligence to think for ourselves. if God created some people homosexual, then how can we say that their desires are unnatural?

Some people try to say that homosexuality is mostly environmental and that people who may have been abused sexually or had absent parental figures are the ones at risk. This is utter garbage. Did you become heterosexual because you were abused by an opposite sex uncle or aunt? Did the environment really have anything to do with your sexuality or did you just hit puberty and found it there? Afterall, almost every homosexual was raised in an home by a mother and a father and if environmental influences are the strongest, then the child should have learnt from his parent's example and also become heterosexual. Infact, I dont believe there is any gay family in Nigeria, why then do we still have homosexuals in our society? This brings me to the issue of the arguement against gay parenting. People say that if homosexuality and hay marriage and parenting becomes allowed, that children will be turned gay in those families. How so? Parents have no influence on the sexual orientation of their children and gay parents are not any more likely to raise gay kids than straight parents. Afterall, most of the gay parents were raised by straight parents and they still turned out gay! Go figure!

The most common Biblical portion used against homosexuality is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. The popular assumption is that the city was destroyed solely because of homosexuality. This cannot be further away from the truth. God saw the iniquities of Sodom- their greed, lust, wickedness and all. Sodom was a very rich city but they had given themselves unto wickedness. Because of their wealth and wickedness, there were notoriously territorial and did not let people into their city lest they try to tap into the source of their wealth. God saw all this and wanted to destroy them but he instead decided to send his angels to see for themselves. Keep in mind that ab initio, God wanted to destroy them- which was why he told Abraham later in the Bible that if he had seen even just ten righteous men in all the city of Sodom, that he would have spared the city. Back to the story. So the angels were welcomed to Lots house but as soon as the men of the city heard that they had visitors in the city, they demanded that they be brought out to them. It was there in-hospitality and wickedness that made them demand that the angels be brought out to them so that they could 'know' them. This means to forcibly molest them. S we have a mob of maybe hundreds of men who men who want to gang molest three angels. Why? It wasn't because of homosexuality as we know it today - a loving relationship between two men. It was because of their inhospitality and their greed -to protect their city's wealth, that they would not let strangers into their city. It was because of this that they wanted to humiliate the strangers by forcibly gang Molesting them- to teach them a lesson so that they dare not come back. Afterall, what is more humiliating than gang-Molesting a man. It was sure to serve as a deterrent to future visitors who may want to come there for their wealth. Lot pleaded with them and even offered up his own daughters but they refused. They wanted the men(angels) in Lot's house. Now tell me, do you think that the gang of men were so sex-crazed that they just all wanted to 'make love' to these three men out of all the men and women in that city at the same time? Definitely not. They wanted To Molest them. That was their sin. That was the sin of Sodom in that instance- molest, Humiliation, Inhospitality. Added to this, is their wickedness and other sins that made God send down his angels to come and survey things for themselves first hand. These were all the sins of Sodom and that is why the city was destroyed. Not because of Homosexuality. or do you think that if instead of the gang of men requesting for the male angels, but requesting for females instead that the city would be spared? No. The city would still have been destroyed even if it was women that wanted To Molest. So please, lets open our minds to the real truth why Sodom was destroyed and not equate it with homosexuality- which is simply two people who are attracted to each other, fall in love and just want happily ever after like every heterosexual wants.

I know that some of you have looked at the story of Sodom in this way before because you haven't taken the time to do your own studies and research. Or because you have always been told by your pastor and everyone around you that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed for homosexuality. Well think again! People have always distorted their interpretation of the bible for their own selfish means. Afterall, the bible was used over the years to subjugate women and treat them like second class citizens. And yes they are biblical passages that support this treatment, but does that make it right? Is a woman any less than a man because of an accident of birth? And to believe that up till the 1920's that women did not have the right to vote in the US or in many other countries and couldn't own property. Even in Nigeria today, women cannot own property in some places if their husbands die. And believe me, the bible was used over the years to support this kind of treatment. It is no different for homosexuals. The Bible has been used by people to condemn them- people who dont understand their unique struggles. the Bible has always been used to condemn the minority and the weaker groups.

It was this same Bible that was used to justify slavery by the White man over more than 200 years. And yes there are passages which clearly support slavery. This continued until the 1960's in the US when the Black man got the right to vote. This continued until the 1990's in South Africa when Apartheid was abolished. The bible was used to support the inferiority of the Black race and that was why this all happened. The bible was also used to prevent Interracial marriages between blacks and whites in the US up till the 1970s because an inferior and a superior race are not supposed to mix. Dear Nairalander, so much iniquity has been committed against minority and oppressed groups in the name of the bible, yet today, we ignore those parts of the bible because event though they might applied in the old times, they dont apply in our time.

It is amazing how our Lord Jesus never said a word regarding homosexuality. All he preached all his life was love. Love your God and Love your neighbour. No condemnation. No judgements. Just do the right thing and be true to your conscience. And believe me, there is nothing more damning to the conscience of a homosexual as faking love and attraction to the opposite sex so that he can get married and escape societies expectations and all. It is damning to his soul because deep down, he knows that he is not only sinning against his conscience and God, he is also sinning against the innocent partner that has been brought into the marriage or relationship. The homosexual harbours his secret and it slowly eats him up. The quality of his relationship with his spouse can never be perfect because there is a secret there- the foundation of the relationship is built on lies. This makes it easier to tell more lies and keep more secrets in the marriage. In truth, closeted gay people (like most Nigerians) have not true friends. They are there own best friends and the keeper of the secrets. Afterall, how can you say you have a friend when you are not even able to talk with that friend about your true crush? Or share details about your true feelings? Friendships are formed by sharing and the closeted homosexual has learnt through life to shut himself off and just keep his struggles buried deep. The closet is a place of great sorrow- for the person . It is also a terrible thing because of the collateral damage that follows it.

My write-up has become too lengthy and if you are still reading up to this point, then you must be a strong 'pesin'. All I hope I have accomplished is to make you see things from a different lens - the lens of a christian who is questioning and seeking a deeper faith on this issue; the lens of a concerned person who may not be homosexual but can for a second put himself in those shoes. There will always be those 10% of people in every society that are gay - this has been so since the creation of man and it will continue to be so. The same way that there is homosexuality in a certain percentage of animals too. It is as natural as heterosexuality. Its just part of God's variety- the same way left-handed people are. The question is what do as a society do with and for them? Do we acknowledge them and make it easier for them to lead honest and productive lives or are we going to discriminate and make them go further in the closet and deny their true selves? - That is the question.

Thank you for reading and I hope you take out time to think things through for yourself and discover your own truth. Why? Because you dont know who amongst you is gay- It may be your closest brother; it may be that your female friend that is always kind to you; it may be your Father who even cheated on your mother once early in the marriage before you were born; it may be that 40-something year old handsome lawyer that you always see drive past in his Jeep and you wonder why he is still single; it may be your husband who is usually sexually and emotionally aloof and likes to spend time with his best buddy instead. Most importantly - it could be your child. He may still be be a baby now but he already has a sexuality and in 10 to 15 years, he will become aware of it. It could be anybody- 'e no dey show for face'. Gay people come in all shapes and sizes, fro the the most macho to the effeminate; from the most educated and responsible to the lowlife - there are no stereotypes. So please drop all your misconceptions and think of these people as human beings- deserving of your Christian love, understanding and acceptance; just the way they are.

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y do ppl quickly jump to sex when discussin gays? Maybe just like heterosexual relationships there are other factors than just sex.

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Lft 2me, I will take it d pastun way, "I catch u or dey say u r gay, I'l cut ur dick, simple". Permit me to say dat dere's notin so sweet lyk fuckin a woman, n not a male counterpart lyk me. Disgusting. I 8 dem.

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As a christian and an african, i will never allow myselve to associate such people, agreed its only a sin which we commit here and there but i cant imagine myselve mixing with these people let alone doing it. My God have mercy on them

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i think we just have to help them by praying for them and counseling them telling them d dangers of being a gay

They are more prone to contacting STDs, pile, many other diseases

there are so many things which i don't know

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I could'nt have been a gay, even if the earth was made up of only the males folk, let alone after knowing what pu*sy taste like. Why gay? Are they sane? Its Disgusting!!

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I see them as people who are sick in the head.

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Spikedcylider get a life,ugly fat woman

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what are your views on homosexuality? can you be friends with an open homosexual? can you have your kids,siblings and friends around them.

do you even consider it a sin to mix with this homosexuals ,africans have strong views on homosexuality but at the rate the Western world is becoming accepting of this gays ,have your views been diluted?

personally my views on Homosexuality are still the same,i still consider them to be living in sin. but i do not consider it to be a taboo to talk with them or even be friends with them. but when i have kids i'm not sure if my position will remain the same. what is yours pls share.

[color=#990000][/color] Africans have strong views or you mean to say are better at concealing their homosexuality, due to the fear of persecution. How many men do you see walking down the street in an average day walking down the street holding hands. Why dont you just follow everyone you see holding hands and cal them gay see what happens.

Being gay is not my thing and i dont think that i ever will be. that does not mean that if some guy who was my friend for years and now comes up and says he is gay , well by your logic i should kick his Bottom and ostracize him. By mine he is still my friend.

What if one of your kids is gay what will you do then.

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Re: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality?

« #1 on: October 29, 2009, 01:05 PM »

they are demons :-x

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Re: What Are Your Views On Homosexuality?

« #2 on: October 29, 2009, 01:21 PM »

haba isn't that a bit extreme, they are human beings like you and I? just that they have been influenced by who knows what,

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Demons r ghosts &homosexuals

« #3 on: October 29, 2009, 07:37 PM »

I agree wit Papabaks,i don't think there is any other living tin dat practices homo,male dogs & female dogs,bulls & cows,cocks & hens even male & female. mosquitoes,d act of homosexuality is completely unnatural.personally,i value d life of these animals(apart 4rm d mosquitoes)2 dat of homosexuals

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Ok I'm a gay man who lives in nigeria, so all questions (and insults) could be directed at me. I would like to say thanks to every one who advocated for tolerance (even those who do it grudgingly). Means a lot to me and a lot of other gay people out there.

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Thank you.

The number of "see it my way or you die" people in the world is alarming.

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Please back your theory if you can

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any "straight" man that was bent wasn't straight to begin with.

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There would be little point explaining what morality is to a person who probably believes life has no meaning and that people should be a law unto themselves.

The point is if you as a person do not have an inbuilt sense of what is right and wrong then something must have gone wrong somewhere.

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To be brutally honest ,the peverted activities of gays  are the least of my concerns. What is interesting about this debate is about is how elements in

the pro gay lobby are using this issue to go against common sense and the very idea even of right and wrong.

That is why they should be resisted.

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I don't need to give it any definition when biology have already did the work.

I'm just surprised that you didn't see anything wrong with xlad21's definition and chose to say anything on his views. Anybody reading along the post would have seen this clearly

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though we r al defaulters in one way or the other but nobody in their right senses shld eva think that homosexuality is ok, its not normal,

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Common sense is highly relative. What some might see as decent, a vast majority might not.

So I ask again, who dictates people's personal morals?

Your volatile reaction to this issue (which primarily doesn't even concern you - unless of course you state otherwise - i.e you might secretly fancy someone of the same sex) is interesting.

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I'm not answering questions you didn't ask, I merely gave you reasons for asking the question I asked.

What's your definition of a sexual organ? Something you use during intercourse or something you use for intercourse?

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Is there any sense in a poultry farmer for instance keeping a gay male chicken?

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I am sure that everyone should know that anything that constitutes a breach of common sense and common decency should be prohibited by society.

Faggotry is a breach of common sense and common decency so the perpetrators of these acts  have always been ruthlessly dealt with.

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Whilst having sexual intercourse, is the mouth off limits?

Kissing is the least you can do with the mouth. . . .that's why I started with the basics.

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It becomes socety's problem if these men are not severely punished by lengthy spells in captivity but instead are aloowed to roam about freely.

Why is this?

1 Public health. The very nature of these repellent acts  make gays a public health risk.

2 Public morality. Naturally society would want to protect its male children from the corrupting influences of gays and their supporters.

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It is a crime in Nigeria, punishable by a fourteen year term of imprisonment, to engage in acts of faggotry.

Moreover it does not matter what the pro gay lobby think Faggotry was, is, and always be a peversion.  It is not even possible for two males to have sex together, so what indeed are you on about?

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The definition of sexual perversion over the years has changed faces. Homosexuality USED to be seen as a sexual perversion but not any more. These days, the terms 'sexual deviation' 'paraphilia' aptly apply and it is no longer a crime in many advanced countries to have sexual relationships with people of the same sex. I doubt if one can say the same about molest, Inbreeding or paedophilia.

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I thought you said you would refrain from commenting.

As for your comments I really don't know what you are on about. Of the three peversions you mentioned faggotry is the most unnatural and the most abominable.

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Its funny how people think homosexuality, Inbreeding and paedophilia are one and the same. Sick even.

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this is funny considering you practice a westernized form of Christianity. Your Great-grand parents weren't reading the king james bible. who exactly is celebrating homosexuality in this thread.

i'm literally laughing over here.

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Under section 214 of the Nigerian criminal code convicted gays face a mandatory 14 year term in captivity.

Under the Sharia system the penalty is execution by stoning.

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welcome back agatha, i thought you left me to continue the fight alone

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@xlad

You should be able to see where we are coming from by now.  Biologically it is not possible for two males to have sex.

So what they do can be termed indecent assault. So really it stands to reason that parents would not want gays around their young male children,as they are much more vulnerable.

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@xlad21

Let them work the streets of our country right now, with logos branding them. I can't wait to see them so that we all can know all of them. The devil that we know is better than the angel we don't know..

Since you talk of abomination, I guess you would love to see and support fathers banging his own flesh and blood (as long its not molest abi?) in the future as a legal right. If you don't, some one might just brand you as as a blind, hypocritical, hater supporting homos and condemning lovely Inbreeding.

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@chuks84

that you like 2 women going at it doesnt make you unstable, it is only natural, guys like that, even females like watching females go at it, straight females i mean. the only class of people that like watching guys in a Indecency movie(even if it is a male-female) sex movie, are gay men, during the movie, they'd judt be checking out only the guys.

having said that, your condemnation of gay people as diseased and mentally unstable is very unfair. if you can(though am sure you cant) try to meet some gay people, those that are not sissies maybe,(but then they'd never let you know they are), they are great, religious, working class, decent people living around you. nuffing much to it.

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personally, i think homosexuality is a disease and homosexuals are mentally unstable people who need serious help. that being said, i cant really berate those who practice it because that will make me a hypocrite. for some reason i like watching two women go at it, i guess it make me mentally unstable too. i think lesbianism is less of a taboo than homosexuality in men.

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The thing western brainwashing does to people  . . . to make them believe and want to celebrate Halloween Santa, Valentine, Homosexuality and the false hypothesis of Evolution . . . even though science evidently shows that the universe is too designed for life for it not to have been created.

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It is a complete lie that Gays, Homos, gays are trying to rewrite history by claiming that Homosexuality is an African Culture . . .

It is a known historical fact that Europeans are the ones who have civilisations that have an Homosexual culture . . . Africa Did Not . . .STOP LYING

Europeans have been known to whitewash and try to rewrite history so I am not suprised that some brainwashed africans are also starting to peddle the lie that homosexuality is part of african culture . . .

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT PART OF AFRICAN CULTURE . . . READ YOUR HISTORY BOOKS FOR GOODNESS SAKE AND AT LEAST TRY TO USE THAT GREY MATTER.

Homosexuality is bad . . . end of story . . .

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the things religion does to people.

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OMG! How do people who are involved in homo act enjoying it.the bible says that God looked upon adam and said it was not good that man should be alone and so God created a woman who adam named eve to be his helper, @All u gays and dirty sluts and whores,do u not know that he who sows into the flesh shall of d flesh reap corruption.all u gays and bisexual who have no natural love towards the opposite sex but demonic dirtiness and stronghold.if u enjoy be fooled and decieved in d wrong way.pls don't try amd decieve any of those little ones who are beginners in Christ and even unbelievers who don't do such evil cos Jesus said tha it would had been better if millstone be tied wit rope round ur neck and u be thrown into d sea.

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people have varied views some are positive , while some are negative. i will try to express the God perspective and that is; gays dont have any reason to make an argument because they dont qualify. a convicted felon cant offer to preserve the law. homosexuality have never been promoted anywhere, except in democratic nations where politicians dont mind eating poo to get a votes.

A gay has a reprobate mind and cant be considered to give valid judgments.i know gay people, i have them has friends. they are nice, friendly,peaceful people but arent normal and couldnt be called upon to be objective.

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You really don't get it do you? The point is that the pro-gay lobby want society to accept what has hitherto been treated as an abomination.

The issue has gone far beyond the issue of individual acts of sexual peversion to a cultural war in which the very basis of society is being assailed by the pro-gay lobby.

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Once again we see another attempt by agathamari to juxtapose evil homosexuality with natural male female relationship.

Interfaith, interracial male-female relationships are perfectly natural and will always be so.

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The question should be, what is sin? Personally i would define sin as act that is against the word of God. If my definition of what sin is something to go by then why should someone who drinks lie and lives on fornication and the likes of others be judging someone that have chosen is own path. They are both "partners in crime".

Life is a choice. Personally, am fully against homosexuality in all ramification but that does mean i should be stigmatizing though i have not come in contact with one. The best one can do is to pray for them. Nothing is impossible for God. Life is a teacher which would one day teach them a lesson. And i pray it shouldn't be too late then.

But we shouldn't stop talking about it.

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Lock em in a room full of 40 trained hookers

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Your view is downright wrong, misguided and despicable. That is my opinion

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Lol@all who give a supportive view for homosexuality. did sodom and gomorrah not pratice homosexuality b4 God destroyed them.hmm,theres nothing with one going against it cos u ain't involved in it and hate it.

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Its vry wrong and da bible is against it

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I understand your stance and I'm not worried about that except for the so called "gay rights" which some perverts are pushing into our views and the laws that would be made to redefine mankind.

Look at all the websites popping up saying homosexuals has been an early African culture without proofs and solid references to root their claims.

I'm never going to fold my arms and let anybody pass dirty laws over us. I've said they can be in hiding like brothers and sisters of the same parents or fathers and daughters would while committing Inbreeding

Imagine mothers/father and sons/daughters coming out and saying they have the right to come out publicly and have incestuous marriages, and claim their acts are part of an early African culture but mysteriously eroded away(without sound proof) and force laws on the society that as long as siblings are above 18 they can get enjoy their parents as their parents can enjoy themselves. Would you not care? Yuck!

Let these gays remain in hiding and form a club where they can have deceptive heterosexual marriages with lesbians and homosexuals of the club. Two couples appear normal living by each other and at night they can swap and live perversely ever after as long as they keep to themselves and not hunt and bend heterosexuals

But I keep saying that our society should understand its a psychological illness [/b]and if it is noticed in someone they should be understood and be helped and saved

If you don't know, I was told by a gay one-on-one, that his fellows do [b]sexually bend straights that they sexually admire but he doesn't.

If straights could be bent to become homos, don't you think the other way round is possible(of course by medically and psychologically acceptable ways)!  Take a Google search about ex-gays to see what I mean.

Only corrupt Perverts don't want to be saved

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