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Is Nas Still Rap's Best Lyricist?

As most will already know, Nas bowed to pressure & changed the original title

But as a step of defiance to his critics, he has left the album untitled.

I am surprised that Nas didn't stick to the original title, it's never a good look to make a bold statement then withdraw it, especially as I'm sure he would have brought forward material to justify the title.

As you can see, Nas is definitely continuing the controversial theme with the album cover, with the obvious N on his back, the marks meant to look like 'whip lashes'. Nas has also stated that although he has removed the original title; ''NIGGA".

BTW, If you believe in picture saying a thousand words, then you'll know the album cover-art screams 'SLAVE' or 'NIGGER'

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Personally i would listen to Nas' new album(which is a deemed classic) over slim shady's "Marshal Mathers" any day of the week.

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Mention one Nas' album that can stand neck and neck with Marshal Mathers LP?

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Give it up Hannibal. Your slim shady is good but he aint that good. Until he comes up with a new album that can even compare to Nas' "Slave and the Master" or "N*****" then he is just another rapper who was good in the past,

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Definitely, the most versatile, talented and up-right lyrical assasin outhere!

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@ bamsyle thats why i said "lyrically" . . . . nas comes no where near em  . . . i don't even have to post his lines for you to know that . . .  . . ill pit marshall mathers lp against any nas album just for lyrics forget the message or the beats or whatever just the words, and as for diss songs ill say anyone who has heard the games song "my Dam" would know what it is ,the song goes hard at 3 people and finishes the job  links below

www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/promotional_audio/87617.php

www.defsounds.com/singles/The_game_my_bitch_jay_z_g_unit_diss

any of those should work

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Mos def, Nas is one of d best rappers out thr, i fucks wit NAs, but me a huge kanye fan, so no offense, kanye's my number 1,

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Oh well, it's arguably the best rap diss.

How could I forget Canibus? That guy is a cannibal man. He eats his foes raw.

I quite agree with you on all other points except when you said Hit 'Em Up's over-rated. Like I said, it's debatable as a best rap diss but then it's not over-rated. I think I just rated it from the angle of the most popular diss that rode on a whole crew, record label and all that. I don't even like the verses like I do the outro. Those words were straight-up fierce, ferocious and strong missiles. And they were freestyle.

Overall, my point's just that Pac kinda battles. His level is different from dissing. His voice, attitude and lyrics kill when he battles. On the other hand, Nas, Canibus, Em etc diss.

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I beg to differ that Pac's Hit 'em up is the best diss song. That song's overrated and there are far better diss tracks out there. Hell, Canibus' 2nd Rounds Knockout, NaS' Ether are better than it.

Situation's a lil bit tricky though. If the battle's a pre-written, NaS would seemingly wins it, if it's a freestyle battle session, lol, i reckon it's Em all the way. Newayz, u neva can tell, love both mcs though.

And about the clowning bit. True talk, but then maybe u should listen to Em's Nail in the Coffin. It was harsh, straight up hate, no time for humor. . . ended Benzino's career. . . and cred (if he had any, that is)

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im a big nas fan and all but i feel eminem will lyrically consume nas

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@abdulrrazaq,

why dont listen to UNTITLED first. Every fan l know dont like those two tracks.

A fan can be dissappointd if he/she was xpecting more from NaS.those two tracks spoilt d album. What was he doin chris brown?

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I stil belive we should stick 2 the topic rather than call names here, T.I is ma best rapper but the truth is NAS lyrics were sick on this his untitled album nd he totally ripped the tracks apart with his knowledgeable lyrics. The problem hiphop is facing today is the fact that we as a people tend to promote garbage, its garbage we want 2 hear for e.g soulja boy, wtf? do u call that hiphop? thats y hiphop is goin dead cos people that say things that matter are ignored 4 d BS songs and that is wat NAS was trying to achieve on this album i.e to show the world that hiphop is not just about making empty noise that dont make meaning but rather it has content.

sorry am calling names now 2 but i have 2, Young Jeezy on this months vibes magazine was saying how he doesnt want his child 2 grow up like him cos he is a gangster (rapper), Imagine that, Thank God 4 KRS1 who said this" If a father doesnt want his son 2 be like him cos he sings gangster rap music, Then we all shouldnt have to listen to hiphop, thats y if we are 2 make hiphop meaningful them as rappers have 2 spit verse that are antiviolent and educative as well as entertaining" Nas so far has done that.

Someone used 2face as a comparism, pls wat matters is not their lifestyle its their music u shd be concerned about, if 2face told u to Bleep without condom wat would u call him? Its his life nd i bet many cant handle the temptation he faces , REMEMBER CHILDREN WHO DONT KNOW THIS MUSIC ACTS PERSONALLY WOULD LISTEN TO THEIR SONGS AND WAT MATTERS IN SUCH INSTANCES IS NOT THE MUSICIAN'S PERSONAL LIFE BUT WAT THE CHILDREN HEAR 4RM THIS SONGS THAT THEY WOULD BELEIVE AND EMULATE,

HAVING SAID THIS GO COP "UNTITLED ALBUM", NEXT IS PAPER TRAIL, 4K TOS THANK GOD GUNIT FLOPPED WITH THEIR GABBAGE ALBUM,

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[b]The Sly[/b], I don't see why NAS and t.i should be mentioned in the same statement. Cos ain't Jay-Z rich doesn't mean his broke. He is big in real estate, go ask those who know. And i am very sure t.i himself would resent that statement. Nas's album is predicted to do 200k in it's first week of sales. That's fantastic. . His Hip Hop is dead album did 350k in first week sales so trust me when i say he ain't broke. Mean while when Jay-z was beefing with him, he never mentioned Nas was broke. When asked why he doesn't do endorsement and stuff like other rap acts, his response: He can't be Nas doing other stuff like that. He has had people come to with pay check to endorse this and that. But he said he knows what he got. Guess u now know that some people just do stuff for the love they got for it and then money follows meaning money ain't he first priority. So i guess Hip hop will remain dead with people like you!

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***fuc.k this beef***

****leaves thread to listen to some more NAS***

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I 've listened to d UNTITLED album. And it seems NaS did himself by releasing d monster calld ILLMATIC. Now most of us try to compare it with his later works.

UNTITLED was great BUT tracks like 'make d world go round' and 'breathe' kind of spoild d show. Perhaps d dropped tracks like 'be a nigga too' and 'esco let's go' should have replaced them.

Apart from that,d album was very okay. Its not a classic but a near classic.

We get to listen to a new NaS ,a mature NaS.

The N.I.G.G.E.R mixtape showcases d NaS we all knew and i believe it was bettr than this album.

Infact i am a little dissappointd but ì am very happy.

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Nas has it locked down please.

he is one of the few rappers i would listen to.

if and when i listen to rap

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Escobar is the SHIZNIT!!!!!

is it just me but everytime im in a bad mood or im down or something, listen to a lil bit of GODSON and i feel fresh and f*cking motivated, the guy is an inspiration, The realest nigger in HIP-HOP (end of, )

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@eldee & Hannibal,

but do u think d reception would be 'generally' positive. Is it capable of goin multi-platinum.

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I ain't disappointed.

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here is what the critics had to say about the album:

BILLBOARD: “More intelligence than hip-hop has displayed on a mainstream scale in years.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: “Neither preachy nor overly polemical, Nas uses his lyrical gifts to keep us guessing…it’s refreshing to hear a complicated record that doesn’t shy from grown-up ambition.”

NEW YORK TIMES: “Nas hasn’t sounded as vibrant as he does on this, his ninth album, in years.”

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No time to read all the comments but Nas brings da realest and keeps holding it down. Rap's Best Living Lyricist!!!

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dre's album would come after obama becomes president, which means not in the near future,

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@Eldee, I have been following this poo just reading and feeling you point.Nas is not crazy about record sales but hes just about the true meaning of hip-hop.Men Hip Hop is bleeping Dead I was suprise when Syrup man Carter 3 hit everyone.

Nas remain Best Lyrist to me Don't know about Fastmoney.

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It's not like it's a crime to go commercial, but he doesn't want to lose the legacy that his role models lay down for him

Nas' first attempt at going mainstream, the result was I Am hitting 470,000 in it's first week

Selling records is very easy for Nas

Making hits is easy

Put a famous Dam on the hook there you go with a platinum CD (Heaven ft Mary J Blige)

And bout Hiphop's sales, GOLD for an Lupe is not bad in an era that the LP concept is dead

This is the era of iTunes, no one buys albums anymore

Nas advocated lyrical hardwork, we saw Eardrum, Finding Forever, The Cool, Graduation and others

When Nas dropped H.I.D, the only thing hiphop had to offer was Dem Franchise Boys, MIMS(That claimed he'll sell a mil sayin nuffing on the track)

C'mon hiphop had a kiss of life

The message hit the right places . . . wait for Dre's coming album

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tboy ur making real sence, the man hd to bow, and eldee is saying he didnt bow to commercial pressure, eldee also said nas aint botered bout sellin records, maybe eldee is just console him and trybesmen cos they didnt sell even a copy, sorry not even half a copy, lol sorry not even a single, no record sales at all, lol, maybe they ddnt care about record sales too,

oi tboy wagwan with south hampton, are there bare gurls on road der? man is ready to come there on a babe linking expedition,

lemme knw wgwan fam,

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NaS had no choice. The man had to bow to d pressure. But i'm sure if companies like WalMart had'nt tried to boycott the "NIGGER'' album,d title would have stood.

And its a shame d song 'be a nigger too' didnt make d final cut because of sampling rights.

I hope this album can change people's minds from d wack hiphop they are now used to.

Also NaS dosent follow d band wagon. He wont change his style just because he wants to sell. And u also want to ask urself.-how many of his peers have sold considerably well since d fall of real hiphop?

NaS fans d world over dont really mind about d record sales. Some just want another ILLMATIC and many others like d creativity and consciousness that comes with his albums.

YES NAS IS ONE THE GREATEST LYRICISTS AROUND.

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any artist that says he dun wanna sell records is talking bare poo man, if he aint looking for sales why do i see album promo on defsounds.com right now? eldee admit it or not, we all know nas is good but he aint been lucky with record sales, if he aint seeking sales why then did he leave Columbia records, he accused them of not marketing his art properly,

Yes hiphop is dead worked as a publicity stunt after sucking off jayz didnt boost enough sales. besides kanye, the other artist you mentioned above are still selling below average. Infact this yr is a disgrace for hiphop cos its the year when a gay crack addick, man kissing, self shooting syrup sipping artist went almost plat in a week.

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Listen to Heaven (Godson)

His Hiphop Is Dead thing worked, cus the next year we saw good albums sales for good Hiphop

We saw Kanye, Talib Kweli, Lupe Fiasco all selling well

He was and still is hiphop's hero

This UNTITLED album was made to attack another major issue

The title is a direct pointblank attempt at making the world listen

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cmmon eldee, gold aint poo, nas is supposed to be moving plats with just his name, and i know nas aint seen too many plats so far, 50 can go double plat without a single promo but the still the biggest publicity stuntman in tha game, hope u get me eldee, and i dun fucks with fif, five 0 is a snitch.

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@fastmoney

It was not a publicity stunt

Nas is big enough to sell gold without any TV ads

So watchu on?

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i stopped listening to nas since hiphop is dead promo, didnt borther gettin the album, but i must say heard a snipet to the sly fox diss and i was forced to listen, but i still say he was wrong with that niggga album publicity stunt but anyway he feeding himself,

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I've got to admit that Nas surprised me . . . once again

I listened to Hero and the lyrics were spell-binding

And to think that's just one track

My lawyers only see the Billboard charts as winning

Forgetting - Nas the only true rebel since the beginning

Still in musical prison, in jail for the flow

Try telling Bob Dylan, Bruce, or Billy Joel

They can't sing what's in their soul

He also backed down a little from the Hiphop Is Dead stance

But people remember this

If Nas can't say it, think about these talented kids

With new ideas being told what they can and can't spit

With a single like Hero, who knows what to expect from the album itself?

With a Fox News diss and an Obama endorsement(which he he predicted since 2006), this album might be Nas' best since Godson

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The video for his former single - be a Nigger too has been released. It's more of a movie telling the story of slavery. It shows that be a Nigger too will still be part of the album.

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The release date is now July 15, 2008 and not July 1, 2008 any more. I think the album would worth the wait whe it finally drops.

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HE JUST CAN'T STOP,

ALWAYS GOT SOMETIN TO SAY,

TOO FULL OF GRAGS,

NEVER CROSSING OVER,

JUST TOO STREETZ,

TOO REAL,

PLEASE WHAT MO' CAN I SAY,

TOO ILL!!!

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I believe the title/contents of the LP will still revolve round the 'N' word if, that was what he meant by this statement.

"It's important to me that this album gets to the fans. It’s been a long time coming. I want my fans to know that, creatively and lyrically, they can expect the same content and the same messages. It's that important. The streets have been waiting for this for a long time. The people will always know what the real title of this album is and what to call it."

That single-hero is a good flash of what to expect from the album. I can't stop listening to it since I got it.

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