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Why Are Nigerian Musicians Forever Copying African American/jamaican Artistes?

im sick and tired of watching these fake talentless nigerian artistes with limited talent and zero originality aping and mimicing african american and jamaican musicians.  What happened to talent and originality.  I used to be proud to be a nigerian when people like Fela Kuti and Egypt 80 performed, King Sunny Ade, Onyeka Onwenu and Ayinde Barrister.

what happened to that golden era?

now every time i turn on my tv i see these pathetic talentless morons "singing" very badly with scantily clad women gyrating in the background - why are we going backwards?  African americans and jamaican music reflects their experiences in a white dominated environment  which does not accept nor recognise their humanity, this is where such genres as the blues and jazz came from why are nigerians who have never left nigeria aping and mimicing this sort of music.  Why cant we be proud of our unique culture and experience and stop copying - blacks in the west dont want to listen to africans trying to copy americans and jamaicans its of no interest to them.  What would attract interest would be a unique form of african music like Fela's afrobeat.

anyway thats my view

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Wat do u expect,when in a country like nigeria there is no national support for musicians,so d musicians do wat dey hav 2 do 2 be on d top of d chart,even if it warrant copying beats,swags,lines and rhymes,or belonging 2 thier cult ,MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US.

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If it doesnt sound American, then they have thick accents, if it does sound American then they are accused of being unoriginal!!!!! Make up your goddamn mind people!.

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I've noticed a trend whereby Nigerian artistes try to add 'authenticity' to their tunez by adding pidgin or an ethnic language to their English lyrics.

I've always seen this as unnecessary. In many cases it sounds forced and contrived.

I see no reason why they cannot simply sing an entire song, or even an entire album, in regular English.

Afterall English is our lingua franca. They can add originality by sidestepping the predictable beats that normally accompany US urban music, and creating a different sound to accompany those lyrics.

I think the imitation bit comes not when they 'try to sound American', but rather, when they try to sound like certain American artistes such as Ne-yo, Usher, Jodeci, Boyz 2 Men, and so on.

They wouldn't come across as imitators if they simply sang in THEIR own lyrical/vocal style, whether or not they 'sounded American', insofar as they're not imitating those individuals. That's when they sound awful.

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Well, because many young naija people prefer "foreign", Westernized or Jamonized music, style, etc. One time we did a nigerian thing in school and they played Paul Play Ik Dairo, my teacher who is AA said," he wanted something that sounds more african." I was shocked that he knew the difference since the song is completely in Yourba.

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2 Chiogo: thank you mam.

@chic2pimp: rocksteady = reggae; atleast the initial stages of reggae which is slowed down ska/mento. the only thing different is dancehall. (referring to your statement about UK Jamaican parties).

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Quote from: y me

I know, right!

For example, Jeremiah Gyang is a singer-songwriter of rare talent… Not only that, he plays guitar, keyboard, percussion, drums, just a natural talent and great all-around guy.

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leave them ooooooo, they have 2 start from some where

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I use realplayer

http://uk.real.com/realplayer/

Just download the software

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chiog, and you never told me this? I actually feel betrayed.

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@Ife

How do you download on youtube?

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Have you heard WAIT FOR ME ?

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It is well settled that the success of Nigerian artists is attributed to their use of pidgin and African beats in their songs, with the exception of a few Nigerian artists who are  Jamaican and American wannabes. The style of their videos, however, are contemporary and trendy, which, undoubtedly to certain degree, mimics American videos. But that is a worldwide trend which is not limited to Nigerian artists.  

To the poster: so singing in pidgin English and frequently Yoruba (or sometimes Ibo and the like) against a Nigerian beat is not enough to be Nigerian. Do you want the videos to show artists who are wearing dashiki or traditional attire while some fat Iya Apati woman in the village wearing wrapper and placing a bucket of water on her head  shakes her voluptuous yansh to prove to you that they are not copying American or Jamaican artists?

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@ POSTER - wow!!!!! dats all i can say, cos u are one observant foreigner, if u havent been to naija then i am impressed with your knowledge of NAIJA's shameful music of today, Its the same American Hip Hop copy cat crap, At least americans stay with one genre, rock, rap, soul or watever,

But naija artistes only follow $$$, thier heart is definitely not in it, have u ever seen D'Banj perform LIVE, he is a waste,

NNEKA is the future of naija music, Till date only 3 nigerian acts are considered relevant in the american music industry, NNEKA, KSA and Majek Fashek, You can hate Majek all u want, but he is recognized internationally and he has played bigger stages than any naija artiste out there, he was on David Letterman as welll, I brought up Letterman because one fool said white americans control the music we listen to around the world, If thats true, then till any otha naija act can sum up the CLASS, ORIGINALITY and VOCAL STRENGTH to hit DAVID LETTERMAN or the likes and perform for those WHITE MEN, i consider NNEKA as the best thing out there

WATCH OUT FOR NEXT YR's grammy, NNEKA is on her way

@ELDEEE - must u respond to everything, Geez, at first i thot u were some really respected dude on here, but seems i was wrong, u are nothing but a "keyboard typing" thirsty dude, geez, step away from NL for a day, Muchos Gracias

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rotfl. maa da lohun jare. Awan igbo mimu were ilu e lo n le.

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Will you shut your trap and stop waving the "I stand against every opposition" flag? What is wrong with you, you think everybody is against you and your precious Islands? Keep proving the stereotype you're trying to clear about your people.

Sue me if I want my countrymen to act more Nigerian and retain their culture instead of emulating other nationality [esp Jamaicans] like the likes of K'naan.

Your lack of ability to reason disappoints me, plz get out of my face .

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FLGators said "Thatz actually an African color, red, green and yellow. Jamaican is green yellow and black.

He's trying to make himself as Jamaican as possible, very sad."

now either that is a loose example of sarcasm or a diss. there is no need to question my post to eldee its pretty clear the guy is loco and ignorant.

*a.s.s. officially calmed*

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We are not in the Golden Era anymore mehn and this is the pattern everywhere. There is a recession going down and these artistes are trying to survive to be honest sha a lot of em are in it for the wrong reasons so expecting them to drop some thought-provoking ish is expecting too much. There is just so much ish that has changed that expecting things to go back to their previous status quo is a pipedream. The average artiste now cannot even beat a drum and who needs that when we have machines

One more thing though are these so-called African American's or Jamaican's Africans as well?? Peter Tosh tells me that no matter where you come from as long as you are a black man you are an African so can we logically say these guys are copying??

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It's called Unoriginality, they don't want to be themselves. . .

They have this belief that Foreign talents are better and can't be compared to the ones in their own country

So, they try as hard as possible to be like the foreign ones. . .

Demarcating themselves from their real talents and gift that was given to them by God. . .

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This is my #1 reason for not listening to Nigerian artist.

Mehn, be creative. I'm tired of seeing look alike Jamaicans on a Nigerian music video.

Hate seeing that Jamaican influence, gawwwd.

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I agree with the poster---- most Nigerian artists don't have talent these days.

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May be they lost their thinking cap, when the head is sick , the body is functionless,

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thats not true, these women were not being expoited in the cheap and degrading way that these so called "video vixens" are.  i must admit that the women in the nigerian videos are yet to be degraded in the ways that the african american women are but we're getting there.

Fela portrayed these women as queens, their costumes were not sexually provocative and they were not put on show as cheap sexual gimmicks, they played their own part as back up singers and dancers without bringing in a cheap pornographic element.

Yes,  Fela used profanity but this did not detract from his main message which was to challenge and root out social injustice.

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I guess the rest of the people listening to "the so called tuface and dbanj" don't know what they are doing.

Wake up bro and leave the past in the past. Time has changed, governments have changed, weather has changed, and also music has changed. You don't have to like it but you have to accept it.

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i await your response with bated breath - ooh here it is ,

I never said that African culture in its entirety is richer than western culture - that would be a gross generalisation, however there are some aspects of our culture that ARE richer and we should be promoting those aspects rather than abandoning them and blindly copying and following a genre of music which is alien to who we are as a people

i have no problem accepting difference - what i take issue with is copying at the expense of your own culture, nigeria is  a nation with diverse ethnic groups and traditions this melting pot of cultures is more than adequate to provide a vast source of creativity and invention - instead we prefer to take the easy route and copy trends which are unique to other cultures - hip hop, rnb jazz, reggae, ska, dancehall were created by blacks in america and the carribean  they drew from their unique experiences in a society which kept them in a position of inferiority - these genres are authentic because they are based on personal experiences of despair and loss - take for instance the blues - this genre came about from the negro spirituals - songs sang by african slaves whilst toiling on the plantations.  

there is nothing wrong with listening to a varied mix of music, but i think there is something fundamentally wrong with a group of people abandoning their own rich heritage to take on a type of music which has no cultural relevance to its own people.

this is why we will remain backward and misinformed -everything doesnt have to be about money you know, good musicians are people who actually have a genuine love for music, who take time out to study music (which is quite difficult) who play musical instruments and who write and compose music not the fake clowns i see on Hi Nolly who couldnt sing a note to save their lives, can not read music, cant play any musical instruments, these people are artistic phillistines but because people like you with extremely low standards who demand nothing of them buy into it they keep churning out the garbage.

pray tell, is there some hidden artistic message that these clowns are sending out that im missing or is it only the great texazzpete who can see it.

im inclined to agree with you on this - the quality of the videos is improving but the content remains substandard

can you mention these "powerful black men" - do they control the marketing and distribution of their music?

what is your understanding of racism?

what conspiracy theories are you referring to?

what is your definition of "choice" and how much control does the public have over the "choices" that they make?

i think the above should be the least of your concerns - perhaps if the nigerian govt could offer its youth employment,  419 wouldnt be an issue.  Dont you think your real concern should be about the way in which our country has been hijacked by a group of thugs forcing you to live in a country as an unwanted guest?

thanx but no thanx - my brain is switched on which is more than i can say for yours, i dont need to plug myself into mindless trash in order to escape the reality of whats going on around me.

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even the so called tuface and Dbanj are nothing but hype, they aren't talented to me, i dont care if folks are gonna love to hear dis truth or not, Tuface and Dbanj would neva shine if it were in d dayz of the old when we had professionals running the music industry in Nigeria and not all of these ignorant modafuckas who don't know what music is about, Fela is music,Sunny ade,Ebenezer obey,christy essien igbokwe,orlando owoh,orlando julius,felix liberty, chris okotie,dizzy k falola,alex zitto, majek fashek,ras kimono,mandators, orits wiliki,shina peters e.t.c these guys were music and not the crap we hear on radio these days, they all lack originality.

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u said it already they are all talentless, none of dem has impressed me.

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they dont have anything to offer, Imitation leads to limitation

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Music is art, no body can judge its rightness or wrongness lyric_wise. Altho' the video thing is nt appropriate but i dnt thnk its a copying from d west. Our Nigerian Fashion is actually going 'Unclad' so it wud naturaly enta art.

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Saying all Nigerian musicians are crap and useless is a very crass generalization. Like a few people here have said, most Nigerians musicians are entertainers and they are giving the fans what they want. If you do not like em, hook up with Reuben Abati I am pretty sure you can work something out.

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http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-33961.0.html

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Just like technology and every other thing, music too has to move along. The kind of music we get now in Nigeria reflects what most of the people that matter in the music business love listening to. And music is business. You give people what they want or you are a loser.

If you are finding it difficult to identify with the current type of music, then i would say you have trouble letting go of your past. Just like the old school guys who will never want to have anything to do with a computer. They just love their pen and paper and would defend it at all cost.

In summary, i'm just saying, the fact that you don't like it does not mean its all trash.

And by the way, jamaican artists that have not been afraid of letting go of their sentiments ("copycats") have done better internationally e.g sean paul, sean kingston but the ones who stick to their anti-batty man anthems e.g vybz kartel, movado haven't gone beyond the shores of the caribbean.

Its all about business!

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See you when i see you

Go and buy FIFA10. . . . .It's been a while i whupped your grimey backside on PSN.

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On my way out now tho. But I'll be on later and probably most of tomorrow. Thanks.

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Cash Rules. . . . .

Whatz your YIM?

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Damn. . . where have u been? Good to see u again.

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Well . .  I didn't try to read meaning that i did not feel was intended by the poster into her post. I don't think she meant reggae is the top selling music genre in the world. Principle of charity?

Reggae is very popular in North America even till today. I can't stand reggae, in fact I absolutely hate it (besides baba Marley and dem of course) but i know it is still very popular, outside of the Jamaican community. We even have Naija reggae artists for crying out loud. Reggae is no longer an indigenous genre IMO. . . IT IS ON DA MAP!!!

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This post is contradictory. . . . . .

Fela displayed more scantily-clad women than the artistes of this generation and Fela's profanities were second to none.

The artistes are only giving back what the consumers require. U cannot blame Wande Coal for that. Blame the rot in our society.

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Let's stop being overly sentimental here . . . reggae is nowhere near as popular as it used to be in the days of Bob Marley.

Right now, Americans rule the scene . . . I don't get how you can come here to say Jamaicans are on top.

The only Raggae been listened to today outside Jamaica is from the late 80s . . . I don't know how you guys measure this.

It's even obvious in her last post . . . I said, name any Jamaican on the Billboard charts, she couldn't mention one.

In songs that are delivered in English, conquering America is usually the yardstick.

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I understand your pain on this topic and I think D hip hop saviour in Nigeria has arrived, he goes by the name of BIG FAZILLION, check out these videos

http://www.myspace.com/bigfazillion

A change has come feel this, love it , then expect the mixtape on 05:05:10 , free download

Peace.

Wiseguy_P lighting up Nigeria

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THEY ARE JUST SINGING FOR MONEY,HENCE IMITATING FOREIGN ARTISTES INORDER FOR THEIR MUSIC TO SELL, THEY ALSO CALL IT THE ERA OF THE 21ST CENTURY MUSIC

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ive said it most 9ja musicians are very st~upid and foo~lish,most of them are yahoo boys based in lagos and ibadan usin silly music as a cover up,they kant sing a song without showing dollars~

its a pity sha~

here are a list of them

the dbanj all of them

da grin (lagos based yahoo boy usin music as cover up)

timaya or whatever his black nyash is

infact all of them are silly

xcept p.square and terry G

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You are so amusing. For providing some much needed comic relief, i'll reward you with an answer

Again another silly assumption.

it's amusing to see that you still think the African culture is richer than that of many people of the western world.

I can easily call them old fogies. You know why? Because it's a matter of personal taste and preference.

You know the first thing i learnt when growing up? Every human being is different.

Appreciating and understanding the differences in others is the first step towards maturity.

If you cannot understand that there are people who would much rather listen to Tupac than James Brown, then i'm afraid you're still a child mentally.

Look, if the consumers like it, then it's fine by me. And if it takes no talent to do what these fellows are doing, why arent you out there raking in the cash instead of posting embittered rants on Nairaland?

There's a lot more to these people than the flashy showmanship you're complaining about. But you're too blind to see that. Check out my signature below, it describes you completely.

Speaking of ignorance, your scathing dismissal of Nigerian videos as being 'pathetic' shows how out of touch you've been with the modern reality. Top Nigerian artistes these days boast relatively good videos. If you're still watching those grainy old vids, you need to get out of the cave you've been inhabiting ASAP.

Yes, o great one. You know all!!

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Sorry, but there are many extremely powerful black men in the hip hop scene who have full oversight of the music content put out by the many black artistes in the US. Your borderline racism disturbs me slightly. Paired with your ignorance and your love for conspiracy theory, i think it's safe to say you need to take a chill pill and relax.

in summary, mon ami, choice is sacred. If the public has voted to have these guys performing this way and putting out this kind of music, why are you up in arms about it?

You think i'm happy that Yahooze shot up the charts in a nation struggling with the burden of 419? Nope! Am i thrilled that everyone seems to be using the word 'swagga' these days? Nope? But i have a life. And these things appeal to my fellow Nigerians. You don't see me coming on Nairaland like a douchebag to whine about the 'good ol' days'. I just change the channel or turn on my ipod to hear what i want.

But you really amuse me, you supercilious jester. Send me your address and i'll get you an ipod filled with all the oldies you can shake your flaccid member at. That way you won't get your panties in a bunch when next Tuface comes on.

Deal?

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Get your head out of your Bottom.what do you mean by TALENTLESS NIGERIAN ARTIST? if they were talentless, how come they keep getting more international recognition and awards?surly in a big industry like we have in nigeria, there would be some wachkos but it would be silly of you to call nigerian artist generally talentless. secondly,if you think nigerian artist copy americans, come to brazil and see the way brazilian artist copy too, same as ghanians, jamaicans,south africans etc.even uk artist copy too.when someone is leading it is only normal that others will copy him and as of today, american artists are leading. entendido?

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Not all Nigerian musicians copy, at least i am proud to mention but a few. Fela, Lagbaja e.t.c. do it Nigerian way. Those who copy (if they really do); copy just to make their music sell internationally.

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