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Abuja 2014 - Will This Be A Reality Or Dream?

Do you think it will actually be awarded to us?? DO you want it to be awarded to us

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In that case, publicity and marketing is needed

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Crude Oil will run out in your and my lifetime. what else does Nigeria have apart from Oil and Natural Gas, we have tons of other resources but it is mainly agriculture, what else is Nigeria concentrating on?, tourism of course. So you can choose Agriculture and Tourism or Agriculture(remember Oil don't exist no more)

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what's connection of ABuja 2014 to our next projected source of income. Remember that numbers and years do not mean alot to Nigeria. Vision 2010, 2018 etc.

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Always lying to ourselves that we are the best even when know that we are not. Its the truth that we speak that will save us not the one we know.

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This is a real grass to grace story!! Nigeria is the main star!!

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If we as Nigerians see ourselves as investors in Nigeria Enterprise, we should ask these questions: Does commission of power plants mean delivery of power? Are we getting returns on investment? I listened to Nenadi Usman on BBC and she said that OBJ had spent about $4 billion on power generation. Why do we still have erratic power supply? There is a wide gap between government expenditure and delivery of basic services. Why are these power plants supplying power to "Space" instead of Nigerians? We were promised by OBJ that power failure would be a thing of the past in 2001, what happened to that promise? This govt has got few months to go and it awarding contracts for new power stations.

I know some folks who bought empty plot for under 20K in Abuja before IBB moved to Aso Rock. They had to till their plots with bulldozers.

What money could be made out of marketing that was not made in WYC 1999 and ALL African Games? Let the people who organized these past events show us how they benefited us- Nigerians. OBJ and his late Wife and cronies got all the contracts. Even government sold all the BMWs that were provided by Coscharis to NASS members and govt officials. Kenya has not hosted any sporting event, but still makes a lot of money from tourism. Kenya did some things right. This just contradicted your post, because it shows that you can attract foreign investment without throwing a spending spree jamboree.

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Whoever thinks Nigeria is not serious about this check out the website. www.abuja2014.org

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Abuja was no dessert, Gangs lived in Abuja prior to construction, it was inahabited. OBJ's administration get the blame for everything when the truth is; Roads have been commisioned, More powerplants have been commissioned in Nigeria than anywhere in the world in the last five or so years. The problem is not plannig and thinking ahead, the hrdle is that things don't usually get accomplished because of the ministers(The corrupt ones), organisations are trying to get rid of this people, and i know that they eventually will, but projects and bids such as the 2014 Bid are one of the few realities, this will bring along things such as money made from tourism, that can be then spent on other places/villages. Infrastructure will be built and I believe that stable power will be achieved in this nation, and that includes your village, it'll just take time. February last year, Lagos State enjoyed a brief period of stable electricity, because the powerplants were at full capacity, but this came to an end because on the other end of the nation, miliatants had vandalised gas pipes, that led to the shortage of Gas to most powerplants and thus a sudden decrease in power supply. Nigeria is in a tough situation, there's the Niger Delta Crisis, Roads, Electricity, potable water, rural development, corruption, local empowerment to worry about and all of these problems add up to make it nearly impossible to correct any of the problems.

The 2014 Bid, may seem like a misplaced priority but frankly it is not. The money that can be made out of marketing is immense. Kenya makes most of the money that it invests into basic infrastructure such as power, largely from marketing abroad. This Bid is not a sole project, and should not be depicted as the only thing that the government is investing in. The government i believe will eventually tackle the main problems, this Bid is 7 years away, the government are just preparing for it and at the same time i believe they will also tackle other issues. This is not a misplaced priority, every Nigerian needs to take pride in such issues as it is the only way that they can gather up the strenght to tackle the more important issues

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I believe that Abuja is nobody's village. It was a desert on top of a hill, so FG poured in money to develop it, why can't same be done in Niger Delta or some other places instead of hosting  common wealth whatever. So even if you live in Abuja,  we were/are all village dwellers, so does your village need  more books in their school than common wealth? Does your village need health clinic or common wealth? This is a matter of priority

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Sometimes i wonder if all Nigerians do have warped thinking judging with contributions on this forum.

I would like you to put forward your arguments as to why you think that this should be Nigeria's priority not wallowing in the thinking that anyone with opposing view   is biased. Do not hind behind people's opinion.

Lewa:some folks  think  that patriotism comes without good judgment and responsiveness

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we have a real weak govt that's why. people's opinion don't mean a jack.

if you want your village to have good schools e.t.c pray for a common wealth games to be hosted in your village, otherwise, your village won't get nothing. that's how our govt is.

just kidding.

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HUMPH, LEWA SHAKES HEAD AND MUTTERS IN DISBELIEF PEOPLE CAN'T JUST GET IT!

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Sometimes i wonder if all Nigerians do have warped thinking judging with contributions on this forum.

Every country looks forward to hosting events like this to develop their country, why should Nigeria be different?

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Is there any law that says that Abuja roads can not be built unless we host Common Wealth Games? Besides, i want my village to have good schools, running water, health clinics and steady power supply. If these amount to being unpatriotic, I will be unpatriotic magnified /squared

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This is ridiculous, do you want me to paint you a picture of what Abuja 2014 will do to this country. New roads will be built, the power situation will be tackled and so on and so fort.

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Adcoline not everyone can see the big picture always!No need expatiating!What good did the All African Games and the WYC in 1999 do apart from enriching those in power?We have no business with no Commonwealth Games,instead let's utilize the Billion dollars or more on power generation,HIV/AIDS treatment,investments in education or the provision of housing for the low income earners.These are cogent and pertinent issues.90% of our compatriots live on less than $1a day is that not shameful?Thus won't it be silly to go expend such amounts on a jamboree that would do nothing to ease the pain and suffering of the people?Let the games go elsewhere

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@alabiyemmy

Why dont you take on my arguments like Weyselan did? Let's debate these issues not by saying that I was not making any point. Someone is not grasping what this thread is saying- not me

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By hosting Abuja 2014, the government cannot be in such an image mess as it is now. This way it will build all of Nigeria by Force!1 24hr power will be in Abuja [Already is anyways], Good transport infastructure and more hotels and shopping facilities, My brothers open your eyes, This is our chance to move forward!!

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what point are you making? none.

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Adcoline------------way to go!Roger that!

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Yes it would come to Nigeria because our major trouble OBJ would be in prison.

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Quote from: adconline on February 26, 2007, 07:19 AM

This is another opportunity to misappropriate public funds. How did All Africa Games, Common Wealth Heads of Government meeting and Nigeria WYC 1999 benefit us?

I really want a break from all the "419 in nigeria" "beggers in the streets" (recent one on yahoo front page) reports that we get.

this will at least build our PR,  image to an extent, and maybe encourage private sectors to come invest w/ us. lol

i'm tired of all the jungle tree climbing monkey riding image the west have of us nigerians.

benefits doesn't only come in material form.

ANS: Why didn’t Common Wealth Heads of States, All African Games, WYC 1999  build our PR? How is the event going to put food on the table for these beggars? The reason why we have bad image is because of our backwardness. S/Africa has better PR than us. India has the highest number of poor and malnourished children in the world, but the press focuses more on their economic growth. I don’t know of any big event India has hosted in  a long while. China is just going to host Olympics. Pls don’t compare our facilities with that of S/Africa because Nigerians go to play in S/Africa with better infrastructure  Naija always wants to spend money. Let’s use that money  say $1 billion  Permanent Fund for investment  like the State of Alaska which sets aside  a quarter of oil revenues and royalties and leases for investment portfolio, then this portfolio pays out dividends to every Alaskan each year. We can use this fund to ameliorate the probelms in Naija Delta

and from what I remember, the govt constructed the stadium in Abuja for the all africa games. and there are plans to build Abuja's infrastructure for this game. how's that a bad thing  .

ANS: How many jobs did Abuja stadium create? All the stadia that were renovated or upgraded during WYC 1999 are not contributing any money to the national economy. Imagine those resources were used to  build a new city. Is Abuja the  only city we have in Naija?How much is that stadium conytributing to the national economy

why do you think there are other countries also competing to get the bid if there were no benefits involved? Even canada without adequate facilities (from what i heard) wants to win the bid.

why do we have to be the losers all the time   It'll be a shame to lose to canada when we have superior facilities don't you think. what's the use of the facility anyways if there isn't going to be any use for it? it was build for stuff like this.

ANS : Does Nigeria need to be compared with those countries? Besides those initiatives   are locally driven. Canada or Scotland may not spend their resources on the infrastructures. Their Feds may come for logistics and security.

we deserve this probably once in a lifetime chance.

when do we ever have the commonwealth games hosted in Africa? when do we ever have anything hosted in Africa?

Nigeria most likely won't be carrying all the cost anyways. probably not even half of the cost.

oh btway, i doubt the all africa games caused regular nigerians any financial burden. or did it cause the price of rice to increase?

ANS: because your government is not accountable and its not your money because you don’t pay taxes. No representation through taxation.

we're just unpatriotic citizens that's all. we've lost hope in everything that I bet even if the govt were to start plans to build houses and give out jobs, we would still complain and doubt!!!!

ANS: Isn’t the job of government to build houses for its citizenry. Misappropriation of public funds is no way near patriotism. What happened to economics 101. need Vs want, scale of preference. Nigeria needs jobs not another spending spree.

and it's not our fault. our govt. have failed us many times. but i have the feeling they're doing some things right at.

ANS: One step forward  and 5 steps backward.

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I think you've cracked him for me

I hope

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Hosting Common Wealth Games cannot spur tourism in Nigeria. We need to do some things right like constant power, contract enforcement and security. Las Vegas does not even have any Pro Sports franchise, as a matter fact they just hosted an NBA all star for the first time, but it has always had a booming economy not because of sports.

I don’t know where we get the facts that investors are coming to invest during Common Wealth Games. Most of the people are going to be athletes not investors.

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I don't believe this BID is political, it may be run by politicians and politicians may take al the funds, but his isn't political. I t simply a Bid

(1)In order to win the bid Infrastructural projects are being developed

(2) Abuja will have stable electricity by 2014

(3) The transport system will be first world

(4) The abuja airport will be world class

(5) Retail facilities will be in great numbers

(6) security won't be an issue

(7) Faciltiies will be improved

Yes, the money invested into Abuja could have being used for other things, but the thruth is Nigeria is not a two bilion dollar economy. Nigeria's are only enjoying around 15% of Nigeria's wealth, the money that is yet to be tapped is immense. The investment put into Abuja is probably less than 2% of Nigeria's wealth, and just cos Nigerians don't see the wealth doesn't mean that it doesn't there or that it is somewhere lese(Abuja). You make it seem as if Nigeria has 50 Naira and Nigeria is investing 45 Naira in Abuja, how much money do you think Nigeria has? More money can be made out of Abuja than money invested, that is the definition of an investment. Tourism is real buisness, it is not gambling, provide it is exploited properly and used properly money will be made. An good Example is Las Vegas, the amount of Money that Nevada makes out of hotels, casinos and other leisure facilties in Las Vegas is immense. It obvious;y takes money to develop such a city, but like Abuja money can be and will be made.

I prob igonred some of your statements, but I can't cover everything

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People will come to Abuja and see what is going, more tourists will flock in. And Abuja 2003 did affect how Nigeria is potrayed globally, The Intertanional media that Abuja got before the event was fantastic, I remember watching it on CNN, and after the event the athletes were impressed with the facilities and everything. Two Broadcasting studios are being built so that our media doesn't sit back and let international media do all the covering-----. I think this project will be good. Adconline see it as an investment, just as your parents invested in your education Nigeria is investing in Abuja.

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This is another opportunity to misappropriate public funds. How did All Africa Games, Common Wealth Heads of Government meeting and Nigeria WYC 1999 benefit us?

Here is the math. NB PLC Ama Plant was built with $220 million dollars and it created thousands of jobs and it keeps on adding value to the economy. Hosting this lavish event is just for immediate gratification to our politicians. Enough of this mess.

Naija politicians are going to benefit more than Nigerians ok. Let's use that money to provide nutritional meals to every elementary school kid in Nigeria as President Clinton proposed. Let's use that money to set up vocational centres for restive youths in Niger Delta. The goose that lays the golden egg. Why pour more of Niger Delta’s money into Abuja when Bayelsa was just recently connected to NEPA's national grid.  This project is going to cost $500 million to $1 billion. It will never change the perception of  global businesses, because when they look for information they  go to their embassies.

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Dblock,

Investing that money in some of the programmes I listed will have more multiplier effect than Abuja 2014. Abuja has taken a lot from Nigeria. Let the money be used in other areas. In most countries, this project will be a private sector driven initiative. Seeing Nigeria on TV does change the perception of investors. There are risk assessment companies, data and embassies to get information from not on TV. I don’t know what you meant by athletes being happy, cos Obj and NLC were at logger heads, some Abuja 03 workers were not paid. It did not bring significant investment to Nigeria. If Abuja wants to host this event, it should generate the money from Abuja not from Nigerian treasury. We like to party when others are at work. We don’t like to apply common economic sense to our decision. Why would u spend millions of dollars on a project that does not have appreciative value? $500 millions for developmental projects Vs $ 500 millions for our politicians.

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Abuja will win, the amounts of projects set for abuja are immense, and if they are all completed and Abuja loses then it was rigged. Abuja by 2014 will be better than Halifax or Glasgow

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Paul, Halifax's a great place and so is the province!My ex girlfriend spent a year at the UCCB(University College of Cape Breton).Nice people,lovely scenery!Anyways thanks for your support!

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This isn't about challenge. keep your ego in your pocket.

I'm only trying to persuade fellow nigerians to support Abuja2014.

what country are you supporting to host it? (I know it's not nigeria) canada or scotland?

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well hello everyone in nigeria and beyond. my name is paul and I am from Nova Scotia. I believe that Abuja has the best of facilities to host the commonwealth games of the three bid cities. The debate is always going to be social responsibility of course but seeing as you do have the Abuja National Stadium complex on the ground today why not use it to the best advantage.

As a person from a community near Halifax I believe it would be a travesty for Halifax to be awarded over Nigeria and actually Halifax may not even make it to the final bid decision. Halifax has no stadium, no aquatic centre to the standard needed , no velodrome and no real support on the ground from the citizens.

We have special interest group pushing this agenda that has been after the commonwealth games for 20 years. The problem is that in the pursuit not one single venue has been erected in halifax for the games since losing the bid to victoria for the 1994 games.

My self Education of your city and country has certainly opened my eyes for the stereotypical view a north american would have of nigeria. Please support your bid because I believe your country can do the best job.

paul taylor

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Of course people pay taxes!What do you expect?

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TAX PAYERS, You are truly funny, I doubt there are 1 million taxpayers in Nigeria!!!

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Another avenue to waste tax payers money!

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hosting actually encourages us to build our country.

usually when we're hosting, the govt are forced to build roads and repair stuff.

there's the plan to build/ develop abuja if we win the bid.

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alright, we'll hope for the best

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thank you my brother o

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so do you think we're going to win the votes of most commonwealth states?

i don't know

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glasgow in soctland and halifax in canada

www.2014here.com (halifax site)

www.abuja2014.org/welcome.htm (Abuja site)

www.glasgow2014.com (glasgow site)

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oh crap. that sucks

what other countries are bidding? i hope none is in europe.

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yea but just the english speaking countries in africa under commonwealth which isnt that much

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Abuja has better sports infastructure than Halifax and Glasgow put together

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Lol you know the 3rd paragraph on the blog about Abuja, Nigeria, I wrote that!!!

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We should get it if everything is played fair. Halifax?. . .Hell no, Glasgow has a way better chance but I prefer ABJ still and it will play into our 100 year celebration. Hopefully Mallam Nasir El-Rufai's masterplan for the city is completed by then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Commonwealth_Games

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I think we stand a very good chance, we have the backing of all African and Asian nations of the commonwealth and Australia. Also, the rest of the votes are to be split between two, Glasgow and Scotland!!

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I dont think we can win it, it a very hard competition to host, but if Halifax wins it , that would be a disgrace to Abuja no way this city can get more votes ahead of Abuja.

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