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African Ststesmen - Icons Or Pawns?

Can internationally recognised African statesmen like Nelson Mandela be truly considered as Icons for the black race or do they just form part of the new world order?

I am wondering becoz I'm naturally skeptical about the recent unvieling of the Nelson Mandela Statue in Parliament Square, London- UK. Do you see this as a measure of achievement and progress, and why, or do you feel it is just in the grand British design of things. Has Nelson mandela been fully sealed into the Illuminati? Like to hear the Nigerian and ofcourse African views on this:

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Let me get this straight. . . . .Kwame Nkrumah,an iconic statesman?You wouldn't be saying that if you were one of the thousands of innocents locked up under the Preventive Detention Act.We are talking of man who declared Ghana a one-party state,who declared himself President for Life.A man whose Marxist leanings left Ghana poorer than it was before independence with mounting foreign debts and economic recession.

People love Nkrumah for being a spokesperson on Pan-Africanist ideals,however,the cliche,"action speaks louder than words" comes to mind when reflecting on Nkrumah.If a craddle-robber is a brilliant and eloquent spokesman on human rights issues,that doesn't mitigate the fact that he is still a craddle-robber.If a thieving dictatorial politician a la Nkrumah was a vocal Pan-Africanist,it still doesn't justify his thieving and dictatorial inclinations.

With respect to Mandela,the label of iconic statesman is more befitting.He embodied selfless leadership,a quality sorely lacking amongst Africa's leaders.However,his silence on the issue of HIV/AIDS while he was President has helped cost the lives of hundreds of thousands.

Another deserving African leader for me was Seretse Khama,Botswana's post-independence leader.He turned,one of the poorest countries in Africa into the fastest growing economy in the World between 1966 and 1980.He lent support to the Rhodesian militant movement and helped build a lasting democracy and one of Africa's strongest economies.

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Obj was forced out - not because he was willing, but because he failed to achieve his evil intentions

Nkrumah and Mandela will be on the same pedestal in my view, Nkrumah's main achievement was his vocal call for pan-Africanism, not much more than that. For Mandela to serve as a rallying point for millions of repressed and suffering people and come out of it not with an attitude of bitterness, but one of reconciliation and a genuine desire to move forward, he cannot but be called a statesman

I don't believe Mandela was a product of white guilt, he arose as a leader willing to sacrifice even his life for the struggle. If he was not important, he would not have been kept as long as he was, and would not have the widespread support from the S/A people he got (and is still getting)

Mandela's achievements 5 years after his death? Even while he is alive his achievements are stellar. His personal clout and international goodwill has ensured that S/A benefits from a wide range of foreign investments, even the successful world cup bid is in part due to his personal involvement, in addition to the preparedness of the nation as a whole.

In Africa having the nerve to step down IS a criteria, because it means going against the accepted norms even when it is not to your own personal benefit. He elevated himself above the mundane politics by making sure he simply served as the connecting bridge between S/A's sad past and its very promising future.

He did not get self aggrandized like Mugabe (ruling since Independence) but stepped aside and created a culture, nay, an Institution of proper succession, in a continent where there are very few examples of such.

His personal advocacy on issues such as HIV/AIDS and other basic humanitarian causes are well known. He is more than deserving of being a statesman

Steve Biko and others were martyrs and have their own place in History as well, but Mandela's selflessness above all makes him a statesman in my book.

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@ davidylan and Koboko

could you please define what qualifies a man/woman to be regarded as a statesman?

I believe Mandela served as a unifying point for the nation, a true father who people could relate with, black or white, his truth and reconciliation conference, as well as other noble acts served to galvanise the country's development

In a continent fraught with sit tight leaders from Egypt in the North to Namibia in the South, stepping down after one term in the relatively rich and prosperous South Africa where there is even more opportunity for looting and other vices, is a truly noble and noteworth act indeed, something our dear Obj could not manage.

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Steve Biko was more deserving of this honor to be honest. At least he died struggling for a free South Africa.

Mandela was president for 4yrs, what change did he bring to SA beyond appointing his crony Mbeki to succeed him?

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Mandela is not an African statesman sorry to say. . . i see nothing he has done for Africa beyond serving 27yrs in prison for violence.

Why should his statue be in London? Do they have churchill's statue in Durban?

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@all,

Strict concentration on the topic will surely do us a lot of good. This must not be a case of Davidylan vs ors. Nobody should equally be seen as lonely, silly or a nuisance, etc. If people don't have different opinions on a particular issue, then there wouldn't be any need for debates.

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I haven't seen any cogent reason behind the hoisting of Mandela's statute in the UK. His fame cannot be fanned by that. The British government must have their reasons anyway. As regards the illuminati stuff, I couldn't figure it out.

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silly goats are every where - and they know themselves - dull and so opinionated about themselves and what they write - I am sure they have nothing worthwhile to do.

They sure know themselves. Nincompoops.

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i fully agree, i also suggest that empty heads who can only contribute insults on decent threads need to go back to elementary school especially when they are evidently struggling with complex reasoning.

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some people are nothing but nuisance to themselves on Nairaland - their posts and comments does nothing but turn the stomach because it reeks of nonsense and empty comments. If all a full grown man can comment on a post/thread is to laugh without making a genuine comment - then he/she must have his head examined.

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I did post a warning somewhere on this thread alerting members about that davidylan guy. he is just a nuisance so its best you just ignore him. The guy is obviously frustrated.

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@ davidylan

dude, grow up man! U sound pathetic! You have deviated completely from what the whole thread is about.

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@ davidylan

Who was talking to you? I don't deal with shallow minded people, I thought I made that clear to you? Express your jargon opinions to yourself and your other like-minded posters.

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Yawn. You only here of "respect for other people's religion" when the religion under scrutiny is Islam. Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that islam is not open to criticism.

I dont have to respect your religion, that is a new invention of islamists who are too afraid to confront their insecurities. I dont hear buddhists complaining about respect for buddha.

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Its unfortunate how some people have no respect 4 other peoples' religion. Its just a forum, not a religious war!

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Ahmedinejad - Icon or ?

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The thread poses a question. I want ur contribution/input by answering the thread topic, either by refuting or accepting the question in the statement. African Statesmen - Icons or Pawns? What is ur view?

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