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America Vs The World: Why?

How is it like to view ameriac from outside the borders? How does america foreign policy affect the world? What have america done to the wworld to be the most ahted nation on earth? The only country that love America is probably france.

Here is a story I read on CNN.com:

www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/04/04/australia.pm.salute.ap/

The big brother America always help other countries in crisis.

Ex-Liberia-American sent troops to help get Charles Taylor out.

Ex-Rwanda-America help stop the genocide.

America don't want any trouble with no. America didn't even agree to get in WW 1 and 2 till the enemies bomb the US.

America is the first Non- evil superpower but why do other countries hate us.

Is it because we are rich in minerals. Is it because we are advance in technologies?

For those people that live in other countries. Why do your countries hate America? What reason do they give?

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Charles Taylor is being tried for war crimes by the International Criminal Court (ICC) under the auspices of the Special Court for Sierra Leone (SCSL). Your O-So-Lovely America has even refused to support the ICC. So, they helped a potential war criminal out of Liberia but stood by and did nothing while hundreds of thousands of Tutsis and "moderate" Hutus were slaughtered; and were locked in a rigmarole in trying to call the genocide by its name!

Please don't bring this up as an example of something positive about US foreign policy. There are a few, very few, positives about US foreign policy, but not "helping charles taylor get out the country".

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well they help other african countries like liberia. I was there during the war when U. S soilders were helping charles taylor get out the country.

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Stop talking rubbish! The US did NOTHING to stop the genocide in Rwanda. Get the facts right!

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The officially stated goals of the foreign policy of the United States, as mentioned in the Foreign Policy Agenda of the U.S. Department of State, are "to create a more secure, democratic, and prosperous world for the benefit of the American people and the international community."[2] In addition, the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs states as some of its jurisdictional goals: "export controls, including nonproliferation of nuclear technology and nuclear hardware; measures to foster commercial intercourse with foreign nations and to safeguard American business abroad; International commodity agreements; international education; and protection of American citizens abroad and expatriation."[3] American foreign policy has been the subject of much debate, criticism and praise both domestically and abroad.

now what is wrong with helping others? Didnt this policy help Liberia. Didnt it help Rwanda genocide.

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Mr Wikipedia,empathy is not the same as feeling or even merely just a "sub-set" of feeling.

If you make a conscious decision to "put yourself into someoneelse' shoes" or to see things through another's perspective,you haven't made a decision to have a feeling.

The whole essence of feeling,as used in Seun's context,is that it is not a product of your internal decision making process.Put simply,you can't decide to love,pity or hate someone,although,you can decide to empathise. Of course,to the extent that empathy can be innate,some elements of it can rightly be described as a subset of feeling,but mostly,its not.Feeling can also be a subset of empathy.

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You have just admitted that you are debating based on "feelings" so spare us the mutilation of psychological terms.Feeling is not the same as empathy.Bin Laden,Hitler and Stalin all had feelings but they didn't have empathy.Empathy is essentially the ability to put yourself in someone's shoes.To see things from another's perspective.

When we address major issues with our "feelings" as opposed to our head(which we Africans specialise in)it leads to catastrophic results.The rampaging mobs in Kenya or Rwanda all had plenty of "feelings". . . . .feelings of hate and despise.

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@RichyBlack

Don't forget to add helping defeat the Axis powers.Where will you be if the Nazis overran Africa?

Lets not forget the 'benevolent' Soviet Union and China. . . .if we didn't have the US,we would have them instead.

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Don't run away, let me give you facts since you "hate" feelings:

1. The Saddam that was framed and murdered was backed by the US for years.

2. The backing of Saddam was as a result of the fear of the Ayatollah Khomeini and the Is'lamic Revolution of Iran. The Is'lamic revolution overthrew the very corrupt Shah of Iran - a puppet of the West.

4. Saddam used chemical weapons against the Iranians with US knowledge and support, since Iran was seen as the enemy, especially after the Iran hostage crisis (1979-81)

5. Saddam's weapons of mass destruction were sponsored by the United States, when he was still a "good boy".

6. The US has supported and still supports dictators and tyrants; a few:

i. Mobutu Sese Seko (Democratic Republic of Congo)

ii. Fulgencio Batista (Cuba)

iii. Augusto Pinochet (Chile)

iv. Saddam Hussein (Iraq)

v. Surhato (Indonesia)

vi. P. W. Botha (Apartheid South Africa)

vii. Noriega (Panama)

viii. Branco (Brazil)

ix. Saud family (Saudi Arabia)

x. Trujillo (Dominican Republic)

7. US supported the Afghan Mujahideen and used them to fight a proxy war against Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden was an active member of this Mujahideen.

8. The US supported the repressive and brutal apartheid government, and until recently still had the ANC and Mandela as terrorist organizations and terrorist, respectively.

9. While labeling Iraq, Iran and North Korea as part of an "axis of evil", the US invaded Iraq (with lies as excuses), only to strengthen Iran's influence in the region because of a Shiite-dominated Iraqi government. So, in effect, US policy has just strengthened "evil" - laughable!

10. While it is clear that Iran's influence in Iraq is very strong (Ahmadinejad needs no "Green Zone" and walked freely and openly in Iraq; Bush enters Iraq in the cover of darkness and never ever leaves the highly fortified Green Zone), the US still thinks it would be "rewarding" Iran if it sat down to discuss security problems with her. Actually, Iran would be doing the US a favor because the US has the most stake in Iraq.

11. The US does no respect the ICJ, the ICC, and the Kyoto Protocol

O boy the list is too long!! I don taya!!

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A psychopath thinks: "hey, this guy is in my way, maybe I should kill him. Yeah, it's the smartest thing to do in this situation". So he commits murder. A normal human being thinks, "that's nasty".

When a psychopath commits murder, the first thought in his mind is, "it was unavoidable; how can I avoid getting caught". A normal human being thinks "I've done a terrible thing; how can I ever forgive myself".

When millions of people are dying and your emotions do not come into play, it means you lack humanity.

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Now, I give you the last post there and on that note, I choose to quit posting on this thread as I sincerely HATE debating "feelings".

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Which foreign policy are we screaming about? The foreign policy that makes it the largest donor in the world. Go and ask victims of tsunamis in South East Asia or Earthquake in Pakistan or Famine in Africa then ask me Are this disasters US made or as a result of the so called US policies?.

China's foreign policy in SUdan or Russia's local policy on Chechnya .

US spent a lot of resources to put order in the world even where they are not concerned e.g The Balkan to oust Milosevic and save Ethnic Moslem Albanians No one talks about this. US unseats a Saddam Hussein who was a terror to people within and outside his borders Ask Kurds, Iran and Kuwait. US invade Afghanistan that houses Osama. Would US have gone to Afghanistan if Osama did not strike?

We can all sit in the comfort of the US and enjoy its free press and lease of life while we continue to bash her. Go to Beijing, Tehran, Baghdad,Havana or Moscow if the US policies are bad.

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I bet if I ask Seun what the so called Foreign policies were/are, he would return with IRAQ war as the policy.

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Nice addition. LMAO!!!

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Like the common saying goes, " When you are atop the world, little details are magnified, so are deficiencies"

America is on top of the world, they have the whole world watching, and the world has changed drastically, rather than look at people for the good they are worth, the media seems to focus on only the evil. same is the case with Nigeria

On the issue of Foriegn policy, the one prevalent problem is the fact that the United States doesnt not recognize fully the soveriegnty of most Nations in the world. But other than that i believe the Foreign policy of the states is great - protecting the weak, deterring wars, strengthening economy.

The australian case is just overblown.

@ Seun, you want to despise someone, make it just Bush. It is pathetic to blame a whole Nation that was clearly mislead and still grieving. How come you dont like Americans for wanting Bush gone, Lowest rating amongst past and present American presidents. and one more think Obama is a joke!

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Well, as far as 9/11 goes, that, in and of itself, doesn't suggest that the world is against the US. If anything, remember that countries around the world offered assistance, sympathies, condolences and other manifestations of support following that nightmarish tragedy.

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We don't hate America. We hate the policies of GW Bush and despise Americans for voting him in twice!

Once Obama becomes president and he is able to change those policies, we will respect America again.

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remember 9-11.

Australian people getting angry after their prime minister saluted bush. everyone in the US knows that our country is the most hated, then again they wanna come live here.

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Why do you think that such would be the case, SeanT21 and TCUBE?

Also, SeanT21, what leads you to suggest that the "world is against us?" That's a rather strong statement. How do you support it?

LiquidMind, what aspects of the American government do you find "diabolic?" Why do you feel that America is "against the world?"

Tonim, you seem to be a bit confused. Is there something that you would like to have made more understandable?

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yep they are jealous.

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we all know that america's foreign policy sucks, on the otherhand , we must also realise that other countries are jealous of America, it is whaty it is

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America is not against the world. The world is against us!!

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It is clear to me, that the American government is Diabolic and against the world after I watching this google video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7315870577833036171

America Stink

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at Tonim

this is a serious post we don't need your playfulness!!

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at drrionelli

No problem. I am glad i brought it up myself. I enjoy your explanation that we are not against the world but also for the world. America is the big brother that everybody needs but nobody wants.

Americans are good people period!!!America is a land of opportunity. Why do you thing everybody wants to come here.

For the people that live outside America. How do ya ll feel about us?

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4Play, one minute you're for America, the next, you're against it. Or do you prefer to be called "neutral".

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Which foreign policy are you talking of?Is it the same one under which the US has tripled the aid budget for Africa and helped bring about debt cancellation?Is it the same one that allows African countries to export many products into America duty free?

Maybe you prefer foreign policy under which Africa is laden with debt.

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As somebody who lives in the US, perhaps I might offer this:

Indeed, people often feel that a country's foreign policies reflect the entirety of its population.  Such is, however, not the case.  Many US citizens (by the way, with all due respect to your brother, "America" is part of the official name of our country, so feel free to call it "America."  It's quite correct to do so!) don't agree with our political stand with respect to other countries.  For that matter, many US citizens disagree with our domestic political policies. 

But, Americans are, for the most part good people.  To be sure, there are those who are not.  Every country has such people.  And, America is a large country, in terms of geography and in terms of population, as well.  Because of that, we have great economic influence.   Many other countries think that, because of this, we tend to "bully" our way to get the things we want.  I admit that this does, sometimes, appear to be the case, but is not necessarily so. 

America is also a land of great monetary wealth and cultural diversity.  Some envy this from a standpoint of that which is available and the ability for so many different people to get along so well.  Now, yes, there's plenty of room for improvement, so, yes, we continue to strive.

And, America is a "young" country.  We've only been in existence for a little over two centuries.  So, we're still growing up, so to speak.  And, let's be honest, we all make mistakes.  It's just that when a country like America is in the wrong, people everywhere notice because what this country does affects so many people in the world.  Our country does not necessarily agree with everybody else, but we do endeavor to be respectful of all. 

On a personal level, I note that while many here on nairaland.com might have issues with the US on the level of international politics, many of those same persons have warmly embraced me on a personal level here, on this site, a gesture for which I shall always be appreciative.  This says that people are willing to look beyond the metonymous manifestations of what they feel a country represents and come to know and respect those who are part of those countries.  It must be so, for we are, indeed, far more similar than we are different.   And that, my friend, is how we, colliectively, will continue to make this planet a better place to live.

My apologies for such a lengthy posting, but I have, do, and shall feel quite passionately about our abililites to get along with one another and share this world.  Some do, indeed, view the situation as your title suggests, i.e., America Vs The World.  Really, America isn't against the world.  Rather, we know that we're a part of the world, but no more so or less so than anybody else. 

Thank you, SeanT21, for bringing this up. Such encouragement of discussion can only help to bring out issues and potentially lead to the solving of problems.

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Things will work out for the better I hope.  The foreign policy sucks as far as American is concerned.  The world just has to deal with it the best way it can. . .till things improve. A love-hate relationship with the world I must admit.

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they hating cause we riding dirty

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