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Bbc Africa's "what Do You Think Of Nigeria" A Sensible Forum?

During the last three or so days, BBC moderated a forum which asks people from all over the world to say what they think about Nigeria. While I am not opposed to public discussions of opinion or perception I cannot but wonder what is the whole purpose behind the forum.

We all know that Nigeria already has a bad image abroad and that the current government has made considerable efforts to try to revamp that image. These efforts have, to varying degrees, been backed up by reforms at home.

I feel that to ask people to discuss so publicly what they feel about Nigeria could only generate more negative than positive responses, and readers who do not know anything about the positive things going on in Nigeria will just indiscriminately accept those negative perceptions. This will, in turn, detract from, rather than support the ongoing reforms in the country, perpetuating the portrayal of Nigeria in a very negative light. What then is the point, or shall we say agenda behind such a forum?"

Is it justifiable for a foreign media firm to host such a forum as on Nigeria or any country for that matter?

Is this another example of tactless journalism that doesnt contribute much to progress?

Or, is it perfectly rational to go ahead and ask the world "what do you think of Nigeria?"

Here is the url: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/5072244.stm

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not my opinion, plz.

culled from bbc.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13107867

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I tink we are d best! Wherever we go, we stand out & get noticed!

Granted, we have yahoo boiz, drug couriers, 419 syndicates & all sorts of bad guys

but we also have the best minds & skills & THEY know it!

Anything they try, we can do better- if given the chance.

And like i always say " only in d hse of a great man, will u find differnt personalities "

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^^ That is not really true. I have been a member of the BBC forum for well over 4 years now, and I can tell you that apart from insulting posts, the forum shows it all . . . I mean all views. I have also been a listener of the world have your say broadcast for longer and every single opinion is found there. As long as you are not there to insult others, but respond appropriately to the issues and views posted, your post will show up, even if not immediately.

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Opinions wont be truly reflective, BBC subjects posts to scrutiny and make their decisions on what should go online. You'll find that if you post something positive about Nigeria or some black issue it rarely appears online but post something negative they let it through.

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NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN OTHER PEOPLES OPINION ABOUT NIGERIA

TIRED OF PEOPLE HATING ON MY HOMELAND!!!

I WAS NOT BORN IN NIGERIA

BUT I LIVED THERE THROUGH MY TEENS AND DID PART UNI THERE!!!

GOD BLESS NIGERIA,

I AM A NIGERIAN,

I LOVE BEING A NIGERIAN

AND I WANT TO REMAIN A NIGERIAN

LETS US RESPECT OUR FATHERLAND

THE BEST GIFT MY FATHER GAVE ME WAS TAKING ME TO LIVE IN MY FATHERLAND!!!

NIGERIANS THAT HAVE NEVER LIVED IN NIGERIA WILL NOT UNDERSTAND

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The recent toppled Tunisian government was more accountable that any nigerian government will ever dream of,yet the people saw the need for a change and it happened.

Jonathan has not made any reasonable reform in nigeria,the only reform is power shift from moslem to christian,north to south but still in the hands of criminals.He is a silent and deceitful representation of gross corruption and irresponsibilities that nigeria is all about.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. We should learn to listen to criticism and heed good advise, there is absolutely nothing wrong in people telling us the truth, especially and we are not used to telling ourselves the truth

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^^^^

Becomrichn is right after all

Seun changes his posts and that of so many others!

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Seun,

Why was Afeni's name changed to DaHitler on all his posts?

Just wondering.

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1. During Abacha's regime, Soyinka left Nigeria under very extenuating circumstances: disguised as a hunter and foot trailing to the Benin border. Hardly luxurious. He continues to work IN Nigeria to foster good governance. He has suffered jail term, torture and exile for the Nigerian cause. I repeat, simply because you have carved out your own comfy little corner and chosen to be insulated from the happenings in Naija doesnt mean you should trivialize the work of those who have chosen a different path. It is insulting.

2. Americans go the extra length to see that the cup is ALWAYS full! And what do some Nigerians do? Sit back and say the cup can never be full! Why, because they CAN do so from the comfort of their foreign abodes. Do not be deluded not all Nigerians are suffering from amnesia or laziness as you claim. Let every man speak for himself o!

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As long as you keep seeing the cup as half full, you would never be interested in actually filling it! Americans don't sit down and view the cup as half full, they go to extra lengths to ensure the cup is ALWAYS full!

We are too lazy to lift a finger, all of us siddon look and "hope" e go beter!

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Thats a very narrow minded generalization if you ask me. It is also an insult to the efforts of many who have fought and continue to fight for good governance in Nigeria--some even loosing their lives in the process. These are not people in the corridors of power as you claim but activists in touch with the grassroots such as Ken Saro Wiwa etc etc. While many were "checking out" during the military regime, others like Soyinka, Enahoro and co. were going to the ends of the earth to ensure the reinstitution of democracy in Nigeria. These men continue to fight at the forefront of the battle. There are two ways to see a glass of water, half full or half empty. It is therefore no surprise that there are Nigerians on both sides of the divide. Like I said earlier, the only reason why many resign in defeat and see no good coming out of Naija is because they have the option of running away abroad. If those who built the American and European countries to which we run didnt persevere to build their countries, I wonder where we would be running to. If we didnt have anywhere to run to, I wonder what we would do!

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Why not? Nigerians seem to be so afraid of criticism. Let people say what they want. you're only afraid of this forum because ypu know the truth. If Nigeria was in a better state you'd love a forum all about Nigeria

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Many would argue that Nigeria is "a very resilient nation that has survived civil wars and political turmoil that would have destroyed other nations. However it is obvious the reason Nigeria still exists today is because of it's diverse population, chronic citizen amnesia and the siddon look attitude of the average Nigerian. Only very few Nigerians have any hope in their nation and the few who do are in the corridors of power. Nigerians are too lazy to carry out the kind of public uprising that forced the King of Nepal to revert the nation from a monarchy to a democracy. Nigerians are so fickle minded it won't be a total impossibility for Abacha, where he to rise again, to contest and win the 2007 presidential elections.

Nigerians do not desire to stay together, infact millions would rather book their next flight out of Nigeria than stay back to defend a nation that does not offer them anything beyond mere political platitudes. Nigerians do not like their country, they are not interested in defending it nor do they wish to be a part of it any longer. They are only hanging on because they have no choice, those that have a choice have since fled the country. Gone are the days when education used to be the greatest legacy to leave for a child, now the greatest legacy you can give your child as a Nigerian is to grant him a foreign passport with which to "checkout" when things get rougher.

Many of our "leaders" today hold dual passports, many are foreign citizens who have their wives and children cocooned in foreign luxury provided by the impoverished Nigerian taxpayer. Once a "respected" commissioner in Ogun State and daugter to the president missed her inauguration because she had to settle the school fees of her children in the US. It is sad that we are ruled by people who have no faith in their nation.

Alhaji Galadima nearly brought soccer beyond her knees by stubbornly sticking to an alleged mandate to ruin Nigerian football for another 4 yrs. This is the same man who admitted ignorance of the CAF head-to-head rule, here is he same man who told us the world cup was not our birthright insisting on occupying the same position he performed so woefully.

Many Nigerians are of the oppinion that conditions are so bad they can only get better. I tend to disagree, Nigerians are still hanging on because of the high oil prices. Woe betide us if they should crash, we would have to find a better word to qualify "worse than worse".

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I wholeheartedly agree. Who will out these leaders though? Certainly not some foreign power. Let us wake up and smell the champaigne. If we as Nigerians do not stand up for ourselves, nobody will!

The military will not give us a good leader

Politicians will not give us a good leader

Foreigners will not give us a good leader

Only we can give ourselves a good leader. Without collective mobilization by Nigerians, I am sorry to say, we will remain in the sad state that we are in for centuries to come.  When the world is tired of the stench of our disgrace, someone will simply come and colonize us again. This time, independence may never come!

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One of the things we are good at doing to ourselves is the propagation of extreme negativity without offering any positive practical solutions. It is not that criticism is not useful, even needed, but then after that what next? Positive solutions require more than talk, they require action. Everything must change including the way we think about ourselves individually as well as collectively as a nation. However, a progressive collective ideology will not descend on on us like manna from heaven, it must begin with individuals who will in turn infect those around them with the same until a raging revolution begins. No matter how much we analyze and criticize, nothing will happen in Nigeria if all we do is talk and not act!

I disagree. Opportunities are seldom given, they are often seized! Sometimes I wonder if all Nigerians did not have the option of going abroad to escape the difficulties at home, would it force us to think/work our way out of the mess we are in?

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and what do we do with the "rubbish" they throw on us? we pick it up and throw on ourselves aint it? the west definitely played a role in africa's woes but my greatest annoyance comes from what we are doing to ourselves. why all our leaders have foreign accounts, foreign houses, foreign this and that. how many of our leaders children are in nigerian schools, how many of our leaders go to our own hospitals , even for a headache?

these leaders are our worst enemies.

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toshmann, you make a very good point. However, it seems that many others, (seun, maory and co) are hell bent on making Nigeria appear positive. In regardless of wheather what they say match the reality on the ground.

The sooner they learn that only pointing out the positive (or in this case, making up positive things that don't correlate with what is on the ground) promotes complacency in the minds of Nigerian. Afterall, what is the incentive to try something new when you are being told that you have the best country in the world? Or that Nigeria is the pride of Africa?

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An article came out in today's gaurdian, discussing the same topic on this tread. It's quite intersting and should stimulate further discussion on this thread: http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/editorial_opinion/article02

here's a quote from the article which I think Afeni and some other nairaland members might find interesting:

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alarinjo, believe what you want. I hope you know that the posts on BBC are screened so only those that show the potential of the British creation are allowed to be viewed by the public.

If you go to France, the majority are French. If you go to England, the majority are English. If you go to Nigeria, there is no majority. Instead we have 3 minorities that barely make up 60 percent of the nations population. To make matters worse, Neither Christianity or Islam make up a majority of the countries population. So, we have a country with the two most popular religion that also happens to be an almost 50/50 split. This is just a recipe for disaster.

In short, what majority consensus can be drawn to use as a foundation for the creation of Nigeria? Nothing, thats the answer. This is the reason why there is so much corruption in the country. Due to the way the country was created, the vast majority of its population have no love for the country. People are merely living in the geographic boundaries of Nigeria. And maybe on a few occasions, they praise the Nigerian Eagles because that is the only thing that stands the chance of representing people from their ethnic group.

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When last were u in Nigeria, and for how long? How can u know?

Thankfully, unlike I had expected, most of the posts on the BBC forum show more support for a Nigeria that rises up to its potentials than a failed polity. Indications of what the "average" Nigerian wants?

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alarinjo, is the average Nigerian standing on the street in support of keeping Nigerian one? No, they are not.

The only reason Nigeria did not break up, was because army personnel were stationed in regions other than that of their origin. As has been seen in the civil war, once you allow Nigerian soldiers to unite in their region of origin, they will fight for secession.

And if you are wondering why Yorubas didn't fight for secession, well, the soldiers of South-Western origins were not relocated back to their bases. And Awolowo was too deluded to make use of what little he had to work with.

Now that guns are flooding into Nigeria through the southern Ports, the people no longer have to wait for soldiers to be returned to region of origins. They can stand up and take what belonged to their ancestors. No need to keep this British abomination alive.

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Over the decades, Nigeria has proven to be a very resilient nation. The things which that country has been through would have broken up any other country years and years ago. Having come this far, it is not likely that we are going to breakup. You underestimate the desire of many Nigerians to stay together, as well as the fact that we are in such bad shape right now that things couldnt possible get worse, only better. You watch and see.

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When do u think it will happen? Estimate, how many years from now?

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Forget secession. It wont happen.

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The bashing would increase agitation for secession. That alone is worth any amount of bad press.

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Eeeehn, Afeni, everyone is already aware of Nigeria's woes. What I am wondering is what good will the bashing do? Certainly nothing positive if u ask me.

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Maybe Nigeria deserves to bashed. The country is quick to boast about "Giant of Africa status", but it can't supply constant electricity. The smallest cartoon bashing Muhammed sets the country on a ethnic cleansing rampages. Nigeria is pathetic, it has always been, and it will always be. Hence, the reason why we should cut our losses.

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Mariory, don't you think that those who dont really care much for Nigeria will also use the opportunity for more of their Naija bashing?

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Why not? We keep complaining that foreign media don't get Nigeria. This is your chance to let them know what you think. So take it.

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