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Do These Diasporic Nigerians Love D Country More Or Just Out To Rubbish It More?

something is not right here - why is it that the Nigerians who live outside Nigeria contribute and comment with so much venon in them whereas the contributions of Nigerians living in Nigeria are always subtle- the Nigerians in Nigeria always see things good about their country, they are more hopeful but the ones lost in the diaspora, speak with lost hope, their thinking is so rubbish and sickly that you often wonder if they ever see good food to eat - do they love Naija more than the people living in it or what is the matter? The frustration?

They are the ones who compare Nigeria with everywhere they have been, they are the ones who comes out first to rubbish anything planned, they are the ones who only see corruption, they are the ones who see failed facilities, they are the ones who knows when government policies will fail or work - they are the all knowing goons scattered and battered with frustrated life all over the globe.

They are the ones who curse the country, they are the ones who knows what is good, what is their problem, can they just shut up and let nigeria be?

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know its bn a while buh thanks bro^^^firststep to self determination is genuinely loving the country no matter what

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Lucabrasi, you are a realist to the core! I respect your position!

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Tosh_Acer, SegzyJoe and Lubracasi has said it all.

Dont stay away and think you have the knowledge of Nigeria based on what you read in the foreign press or online, come and experience it first hand and then you can talk.

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exactly!!that is the reason i dont post on every single topic,for instance i cant post on the fuel situation because im not in nigeria presently and cant rely on sahara reports or online newspapers,this is what some people dont seem to realise,what nigerian online sources will give is at best an abstract so you cant argue or make a stance based on the strenght of such.

like you said,we nigerians in the diaspora bring more shame to nigeria as a country abroad by the negative stuffs some of us get up to,the worst of nigerians in nigeria is not the average nigerian but political leadership,the worst nigerians in the diasporians are found both in the blue collar,students,rich,poor,male,female e.t.c

so who should be criticising the other for giving nigeria a bad name?

if you think you have seen it all abroad and know the panacea for nigerian's problems based on your sojourn abroad,rather than espousing theories online,i believe the real test of an individual diasporian is going to nigeria in total faith of his/her convictions to practicalise all they know,then and not before will you have earned the right to start criticising every initiative,scheme the govt embarks on be it good or bad

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@ i - laugh

As unsubstantiated as your post may sound,  I think am in agreement with what you re saying. some diasporas travelled out of Nigeria out of bitterness due to  situation at home, it always baffles me that some of them responded to anything Nigeria out of bitterness, they somehow find it difficult to forgive the country that has made them a second class citizens in a foreign land.

my take on this is that I think they sometimes exerggerate the negative sides of Nigeria, as lucabrasi observed, the sources of information may have contributed to the negative tones of their comments on this forum.

again, my contention with Nigerians diasporas is this feeling that they were not part of the problem confronting Nigeria today, yet some of us that travel ocassionally are being humuliated every now and then, just because some of this diasporas have misrepresented us in their despiration to survive.

I sometimes find them not to be in touch with reality of the situation in Nigeria, the seriousness with which they take our newspaper headlines suggest that they are out of touch with Nigeria's situation, then I guess they are mistaken Nigerian press with European or American press, negative headlines don't really bother us here in Nigeria, because soonest you will sone hear a contrary news contradicting the former report. Sensational reporting is here with us, and most of the major dailies are owned by politicians who find it convenient to demonise their political adversaries at will

they come on this forum and shout blue murder whenever there is a negative news about Nigeria as if they were not part of the problem before finding their way abroad, some diasporas engages in activities that contineu to tarnish the image of Nigeria, yet they are quick to come on Nairaland to point accusing fingers.

@lucabrasi

I agree with your points above, those points may have contributed to their view and perception about Nigeria. I suggest they ask questions here on this forum instead of claiming to know all about Nigeria from their hideout in America, Europe and Asia. It is not everything that is going on in Nigeria that is reported on nairaland and I think the information gap is contributing to the uninformed post been sent here by most diasporas.

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It is Nigerians who have been away from Nigeria for too long that still wake up and write bull fart against the country Nigeria - to get a first hand and true experience of Nigeria, book a holiday there for just two weeks and come back here to write, of course if you rely on reports in sahara reports and elendu whatever it is, or spend half your day on NairaLand reading from the lies of Crackles, Kobojunkie, tbo and many others who havent been in Nigeria for ages, you will definitely want to beleive them and join them in their massive crusade to run down a country they have left for ages.

First hand experience is ok - this is what the poster is talking about, he isint saying dont criticise the country, he is simply saying, why is it that those who are outside shout the worst when it comes to Nigeria, they seem to be the only ones who knows when or what should be done or not and they seem to be the only ones who sees the poverty and sufferness in a country the dont live in.

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Oh I see! this war between Nigerians in Naija and those in the diaspora is still on! Anyway, to be truthful, I see some sense in what the poster has said ( I hope I don't get crucified for this). But c'mon, have a peek through almost all the hot debates here in the politics section and indeed the whole of Nairaland and you'll see some element of truth in what Mr. Poster has said! Why this is so is what I cannot exactly say. But I sure do sense a lot of negativity when they write! Many of us in naija here do travel to these same places (even Malaysia) and yet we dey take am eazy when time reach to criticize naija ('cos we know that we are part of this system & wouldn't want to wash 'all of' our dirty linen in public). these same criticisms come back to hunt us one way or the other whether a 'Naijarian' or a 'diasporan'!

Bottomline: Nigeria is ours to build, we only got 1 country! let's build it!

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They have just seen a better way of running a nation.

They have seen better and they wish their own nation could be that good.

They have seen countries being led by humans and not animals.

They have seen what accountabilities.

They have seen nation with lesser resources and yet doing great, with all amenities.

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Is "diasporic" a word?

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both party shoud be sent to jail

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A Nigerian in diaspora

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2389276.ece

A TOP eye surgeon was duped by an internet fraudster — and handed him a staggering £350,000.

Consultant Fawzia Ashkanani gave the massive sum to Nigerian Chinaenye Mokelu after he promised her a slice of his “$300million fortune”.

Dr Ashkanani, of Dumfries, even met Mokelu in London, where the conman showed her a suitcase full of FAKE cash.

Kuwaiti-born Dr Ashkanani — a consultant at Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary — fell for a phishing spam email Mokelu sent to UK bank account holders asking for help in transfering the nine-figure sum from Nigeria to Britain.

Prosecutor Andrew Jackson told a court: “He said he needed someone who had a bank account in the UK to facilitate a bank-to-bank transfer.

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“Unfortunately for her, she replied to the email.

“During the course of a number of subsequent emails and telephone calls the victim was asked to transfer money into two accounts controlled by the defendant.”

Mokelu, 44, of Grays, Essex, swindled £350,000 from Dr Ashkanani, of which only £30,000 has been traced by cops.

He had used that to to pay off his mortgage and splash out on luxuries.

The dad-of-two was yesterday told at Basildon Crown Court that he faces a lengthy prison sentence after pleading guilty to conspiracy to defraud and having a fake passport.

Karl Volz, defending, said: “He says he was a very trusted lieutenant in this conspiracy.

“There are various other names involved in this case who have not been tracked down by the prosecution.”

Recorder Jeffrey Yearwood told Mokelu: “Clearly he is a very serious player as far as this is concerned. This defendant is plainly in no doubt that a significant custodial sentence is the only option.”

Mokelu was remanded in custody until June for the preparation of pre-sentencing reports

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what do you mean cousin

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THIS IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO NAIRALAND.

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People something is not right.

I_laugh and i_laugh are clearly two different account. The former have a higher post count and the former appears to be a new account? Is he suspended or something? Gosh only if am a mod around here. There will be much discipline and people will learn the etiquette of forums.

The mods around here hardly do anything to slowpoke like this, hence they just flourish.

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hahhaha

f^^^ transgendered

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I_laugh

most of your thread is about having sex with both male or female, are you sex starved and also why cant you have a reasonable debate without raining insults

Na wa o

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Mad man of Nairaland.

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While some of the points you noted might be true, I will be quick to point out to you that the fact that someone has lived all his life in Naija does not make him better informed than a diasporean (even though I hate the word!) and vice-versa. Unfortunately, the situation in Nigeria is so bad that, every govt project/plan is now treated with some form of cynicism. This is because we have never had a honest leadership, most projects are embarked on based on selfish interest and without an iota of transparency.

I can assure that if every Nigerian is given an opportunity to travel overseas just for one day and return there will be major revolution. They don't even need to visit Europe, a country is Malaysia is good enough.

How can someone in Nigeria that has never seen water running through taps, except for boreholes/wells or seen electricity for more than 2 hours a week criticise the govt when they are making noise about 6000mw. For an average Nigerian (and I mean AVERAGE), basic necessities of life have been turn into luxury, and that is why we present our leaders with awards when they undertake mundane projects such as road maintainence, which should be a rolling programme in any govt. We don't need a party manifesto to tell us you will generate 6000mw of power of rehabltate roads

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Huh? Please drop names with convincing proofs, then people will take you serious.

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Here we go. The same old cries of neglect from I laugh. Do bore me more.

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Im glad you said some or what I would have verbally done to you.

Please many of you in Nigeria are so greedy and selfish. Many dont want to work before they chop. Rich are getting richer poor are getting poorer. Why wont we talk when we can see what is happening to our people.

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You are just so silly. Who is giving you money for the internet cafe?

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@: i_laugh I truly Support you very much.don't mind them. They think they are on top of the World when travelling outside the Country.Anyway some of them Are Useless and Arrogant that why some of them Involved in Crime, 419 in Oversea and Given Nigerians Bad name. silly Ppl

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I disagree with the poster. We all love Naija there is no place like home

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@post

no they dont,an overwhelming majority just want to rubbish the country more hence the reason they never see anything good in the country and even if they do acknowledge it,they do so with cautious cynisycm, for you to know the nigerian diasporians in this category

1.they have been away for upwards of ten years or more

2.didnt have a middle to high standard of living hence the fixation of nigeria still being as they left it in their sub-conscious

3.they rarely call friends and family at home,neither do they even pick up international calls due to their imbibed western culture that" im working hard for my money and not nder any obligation to shell out to any family or friend"this had had an effect of them being totally disconnected

3.they rely on nigerian social networks,pointblank,sahara e.t.c for news and happenstances on nigeria hence they never get involved in issues that isnt reported on these mediums cause they honestly have no idea.

4.they have been away for too long,and hearing how expensive properties are,basic standard of livng e.t.c ar in nigeria,they ll criticise in a strangely mistaken believe that nigerians in nigeria will fight for the liberation of that country,things will be ok and nigeria will become this egalitarian dream of theirs then they can move back home

more to come,

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One needs to be out of that soured agidi called Nigeria to really appreciate the magnitude of the filth therein

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I_laugh

What is that, take it easy on the man.

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lmbaooooo, what d heck r yu guys on abt, plz get a grip.

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ElRufai

You come to me as a child who bread had just been taken away from him and is crying on his way to school. You are just simply a nomenclated azure and a teetotaler with a pot belly and frugal hombolus.

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El Rufai

You have mixed gaari with hot water and mistakenly called it amala and you hgave swallowed it with grass soup thinking it was vegetable soup, you have then gone to the toilet to poo poo but in the process you have made the mistake of poopooing inside your bath instead of inside the toilet bowl and while wiping the poo from your butt hole, you have mistakenly used sand paper instead of toilet tissue, and when you realised, you wanted to wipe your butt with water and instead of using the cold water tap switch you mistakenly used the hot water instead, now the hot water burnt your butt hole so much that while you got to the clinic, the man said you need an herbalist in Nigeria to cure the burns and you told him, Nigeria ke, over my dead body will i go there, meanwhile your butt hole rots and smells each time you want to poo - the lesson of this is that, never write off Naija my lovely country.

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You seem to forget that your perception do not equate to facts. Perhaps you should therefore stop presenting them as facts. As most will tell you, we love Nigeria in our own ways. Living in NIgeria or outside Nigeria do not make a difference to how patriotic we are to the nation.

You see from my brief encounter with you, you seem to have a problem with anyone constructively criticizing nigeria. Why is that?

The problem with Nigeria is that we have had over 40years to get things right and time and time again, we have showed that we really do not care about the good of the naiton, but our selfish need born out of greed and ingrained corruption.

If people have been abroad, it hurts them to see that we cannot even provide basic things needed in this day and age. Surely, it is only human nature to ask questions as to why we cannot achieve such things in our very own country.

Once again you displayed a big irony in your post. You do not want people to criticize nigeria constructively - this is your 2nd thread from yesterday saying something alone similar lines. This is precisely one of the problems we face and one of the factors that have hindered our development.

Do you expect us to not say anything on a public forum for god sake? If you know what a forum means, then you wont be quick to try and shut people up. It is a typical naija mentality and it sucks to be honest.

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As your name implies, I laugh. I do not know where you got your statistics from but i've concluded your post is a matter of opinion and quick observation.

What makes a person decide in 1983 after 10 years of living in Nigeria that Nigerians are indeed happy people, smiling while suffering.

It is because, he has seen two different societies, weighed their potential and concluded that one could be better off if only such knew what to do.

On the one hand, it's perhaps the anguish that makes the diaspora talk very bitterly about Nigeria. They are in a new environment- an environment that creates an opportunity for individuals to maximize their potential but obviously sees non- indigens as second class citizens. A society that has with little resources and much effort made a respectable name for itself in the game of living.  Why cant Nigeria be like this, why do I have to work my Bottom out here and still sponsor the queen and her family to throw royal parties ere n dere, Why cant things just work out right in my belovd country, Why, WHy n Why,

Their displeasure is the question of why and why not and we all get that depending on how thoughful we are.

On the other hand, Nigerians in Nigeria are perhaps very hopeful cos they are locked in the system. E go beta has becum our watchword, we are so hopeful and expectant like we have an option. Do you ghet? It's only natural,  parliamentary system to military rule then rigged democratic election followed by a successful transmission from one democracy to another without military intervention ( however badly rigged it was). Then, the ultimate amazement, judges are displayin their competence overuling elections abbl, tht's perhaps a step in the right direction for most people.

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Every Nigerian living abroad whether in Ghana or UK loved Naija the way everybody living in the nooks & crannies of the country does. The criticism is basically on what each person sees in his/her place of abode. If you are there, same critique will come out of your mouth, pen or whatever obtainable. Naija is our home

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