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Do You Believe In Capital Punishment?

I am a strong believer in capital punishment. I feel that if you killed someone you need to be killed yourself instead of being lock up behind Bars and eating. Prison seems to be too much fun for the criminals.

I think Capital punishment is fair. The bible said do unto others as you want them to do unto you.

The next time you kill someone, You will get killed

The next time you molest someone, You will get eaten in the Bottom.

The next time you shoot someone----------- You should get shot.

What do yall thing?

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There are five possible purposes to the punishment of criminals:

1. Incapacitation: A felon in prison cannot commit crimes while imprisoned. An executed felon cannot commit a crime ever again.

2. Deterrence: The threat of punishment deters people from engaging in illegal acts.

3. Restitution: The felon is required to take some action to at least partially return the victim to the status quo ante.

4. Retribution: The felon harmed society; therefore society (or the direct victims) is entitled to inflict harm in return.

5. Rehabilitation: The punishment changes the felon in order to make him a better citizen afterwards. (The punishment can include mandatory vocational training, counseling, drug treatment, etc.)

In order for a punishment to be justified, it must satisfy at least one of these criteria. (There may be reasons to oppose a punishment even if it does satisfy these criteria, so this is a necessary, but not a sufficient, condition.)

Capital punishment clearly satisfies incapacitation. But so does life imprisonment without parole.

Culled from: http://home.page.ch/pub/rfm@vtx.ch/punishment.html

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not be accused of committing the crime."

Which makes no sense, of course. You don't realize how easy it is to be falsely accused of any crime.

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http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-127120.0.html

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Kbj:

thanks for the links, very informative. Exodus Ch21 talk about slavery. However, i do think some people compare slavery mention in the bible to "Afican slavery". In Exodus 21, you have to understand the history of the Hebrew nation. People were placed in situations like indentured servatude or slavery. Because they owed money or their nation was conquered. That was the norm for that time. See the book of Philemon. Philemon was a Hebrew slave to another Christian. Paul beseeched the Christian master to be kind to Philemon because he had run away. This does in no way says that God Himself endorses slavery.

Now as for "african slavery", African owed no one, yet they were robbed, beaten and taken away against their will. "whitey" gave a whole new meaning to slavery.

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I don't believe in the death penalty b/c I believe in the Bible and the 'thou shalt not kill'. Even though a murderer kills, the person killing a murderer is also a murderer. The executer will be just as guilty as the murderer.

Plus, so far in, about 125 people on death rows (in the USA) have been released with proof that they were wrongfully convicted. Thanks for DNA, some innocent people won't be executed. The death penalty doesn't prevent others from committing murder. No reliable study shows the death penalty deters others. Life without parole costs less than the death penalty. And some people own conscious kills them.

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American justice system is porous,especially with the blacks.Heaven knows how many have been executed innocently.

There is a recently revealed case of black guy in chicago who have been in prison for 25 for killing a security guard, waiting to killed,and he did not actually commit the crime,another person confessed to the crime,while his lawyer and the confessors lawyer knew all this years,but because of the so-called attorney secrecy,they chose to waste the life of an innocent man.They only revealed it because the real offender died recently in prison for another crime,a brother too,lost brothers.

Playing god,how many innocent brothers must have gone down this way?Who is there?

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Anyone here who has made the United States his/her country will definitely tell you capital punishment is ideal - because their country America practices the death sentence.

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Should I move this to religion then?? Cause this is a bout Capital punishment and not about whose idea of the Bible is right or wrong. It is clear that not all christians interprete the book the same way but do not force my hands here as I may have to move this to the religion section if this continues in here.

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Do you really know much about the bible? All the rubbish you are quoting from the bible are based on the Mosaic law for the Jews before the arrival of Jesus. That aspect of the laws of Moses ended on the night of Nisa 14 33 CE, when Jesus was murdered paving way for a new law that established christianity, hence all professed christians no longer make animal sacrifices, compulsory payments of tythe etc originally in that law.

Please learn the difference between the Hebrew (old testament)and the Greeks (new testament) scriptures before reading them upside down like many Nigerian bible bashers.

If those in authority are ordained by God according to your sermon, does that includes the likes of Hitler, Mugabes and the Nigeria coup plotting rulers and election riggers? That your god must be mad!!!!!!!!

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@SeanT21,

How do you explain the story in the Bible where Jesus was clearly against the execution of an adulterer and made it clear to those who wanted to stone her to death? Please explain o!

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Anybody that is proven to have killed intentionally should be killed,not self defense,i think molest can be forgiven if it's not brutal and h.i.v infected,life sentence,or things like that will be ok.

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I think only the proven corrupt politicians like ibb,obasanjo,ibori,lucky igbinedion,ikimi,anenih,name them should be beheaded,all corrupt politicians and officials all over the world,they are mass killers and through them all crime emanates.

In every 30 seconds a child die of malaria in africa 24/7.

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How are you gonna compare Europe murder rate to New York when America is so damn big.

Trust me, if someone kill someone in a coldblooded murder and testify to it i dont give a damn pressing the button on the eletric chair. I will be happy knowing that he got what he/ she deserve.

The death penalty was first instituted by God Himself in Genesis 9:6: "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Man didn't invent the death penalty, so man has no right to abandon it. We live in an age when everyone is far too concerned with "human rights", and God has been practically ignored, as if He had no rights at all.

Revelation 13:10 says, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints." If the death penalty is no longer in effect, then why is this verse even in the New Testament?

Those in authority are ordained by God (just as in Genesis 9:6) to "execute" wrath upon evil doers. Paul said, ", he beareth not the sword in vain, "A sword is used for one thing: KILLING! Killers are to be killed, and God's will has not been fulfilled until our governing bodies have executed wrath upon those who have killed others.

"But if any man hate his neighbour, and lie in wait for him, and rise up against him, and smite him mortally that he die, and fleeth into one of these cities: Then the elders of his city shall send and fetch him thence, and deliver him into the hand of the avenger of blood, that he may die. Thine eye shall not pity him, but thou shalt put away the guilt of innocent blood from Israel, that it may go well with thee."

I personally think we need TELEVISED executions every night at 8:00 p.m. on national television. Forget the movie of the week. Let's just have about 50,000,000 Americans sit down every night and see some little children crying about their mother who was Molested and murdered. Let's see some moms and dads mourning over their little girl who was molested and murdered by some wicked devil, and then let's see the rascal get what he deserves. I bet that would deter some crime! You say, "girl, you're crazy!" Am I? Did you ever read how God commanded the Israelites to execute people? It was a PUBLIC STONING? Is God crazy too?

GOD IS FOR CAPITAL PUNISHMENT!!

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If capital punishment is a deterrant, how come United States (New York alone) has more murder rate than all Europe put together?

The mistake of miscarriages of justice makes me feel unease about capital punishment. How would you live with yourself sending an innocent person to his grave, when the truth comes out later? Too Risky!!!

I will support life sentence. And life sentence, should mean life sentence without any option of parole with hard labour, where the prisoner feeds himself/herself and not by the tax payers. Then if there was a mistake in the judgement/sentencing, you can at least make ammends and pay compensation to the victim.

Somtimes, death makes it easy for killers, not to live to see the consequencies of their actions.

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@ Kobojunkie. Ok then, so will you be able to make such a decision to send someone to the electric chair or whatever method is going to be used? Will you be able to live with the implication no matter what the person did? If you are able to easily make such a choice then we have no problem and you can say you support it. That was my arguement in the first place.

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The argument that some have been found innocent after many years in prison does not have anything to do with Capital punishment itself. That should be brought up when we decide to debate how perfect the system is in investigating crime or what not but is not to be used to make a case against capital punishment at all.

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Capital punishment is a strong deterrent factor to establishing a peaceful society,having put in place all the necessary machineries. So if one steals,it should be established d reason behind such act and if one kills what informs d act before such person is dealt with appropriately.

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Let us just put sentiments aside for a moment. I am not saying i am for or against capital punishment, i view life as precious as i am sure or hope we all do. However, i think were the discussion should start from is with the question: If you are the one left with the decision of taking a mans life irrespective of what he has done would you be able to make the decision to end such a life and be able to live with the knowledge of what you did and the concequences? If you can make such a decision then you can now start shouting capital punishment any how you want. There have been situations whereby after decades of putting the wrong person behind bars for life, on further review of the cases later eview of the case such persons have been cleared. I can think of one or two cases of such in England. imagine if such a person was given the death sentence. While there are no spaces in prison i believe we should work very hard at genuine rehabilitation.

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So, how would killing the person bring back the dead relative? Please tell me how killing the person will do any good.

In America, the death penalty still exists, in my opinion, for only two reasons: race and religion.

African Americans made up 41% of death row inmates while making up only 12% of the general population. (They have made up 34% of those actually executed since 1976.)[33] Conversely, others note that this is lower than the 50% of the total prison population which was African American and that whites are in fact twice as likely as African Americans to receive the death penalty, and are also executed more quickly after sentencing.[34] Academic studies indicate that the single greatest predictor of whether a death sentence is given, however, is not the race of the defendant, but the race of the victim. According to a 2003 Amnesty International report, blacks and whites were the victims of murder in almost equal numbers, yet 80% of the people executed since 1977 were convicted of murders involving white victims.[35] -- Wikipedia

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It is not really about following biblical laws at all but more of what people believe and how that affects the way they judge. For many Christians, if they were allowed to vote on issues, they would vote according to their belief. What the guy is stating in this case is that no place in the bible is the Bible God against Capital punishment. Infact, you can argue for it with the Bible if you were allowed to.

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it would be a bad idea if we started following biblical laws, especially the old testament.

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You mean someone tried to make this about racism as well?? GREAT!!!

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at RichyBlack

so if someone killed a family members of yours you rather let him be in jail for life where by chance he can escape or Fell the pain your brother felt?

Where in the bible does God goes against capital punishment?

I agree with the American tradition.

Plus in America is not about the race or ethnicity. Its all about the crime you commit. If a white man kill someone he will get the Electric chair. If Michael Jackson kill someone he will get the chair also.

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If you commit a pre-meditated murder, it's only fair that you should be killed. The punishment fell short of the life already taken but still, the pre-meditated murderer must be killed because his life is worthless in my view.

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I am firmly against the death penalty! It is a barbaric form of punishment that reveals the tendency in some of us to kill in cold blood. It is the only form of punishment that makes the state commit the same crime commited by the condemned (when murder is involved). It's like the state organizing an armed robbery on John Doe after John Doe has committed armed robbery. How does that make any sense?

The death penalty is always applied unfairly across the demography of any given state. In Saudi Arabia, foreigners and Saudis of the lowest social strata are more likely to be killed by the evil House of Saud. In America (an ally of Saudi Arabia), no person of the upper class has ever got the death penalty. African-Americans and Hispanics are more likely to get the death penalty. Also, all things being equal, men are more likely to get the death penalty than women. Furthermore, if the victim of the crime is White, particularly if a blond, blue-eyed White girl, the likelihood of the accused getting the death penalty in a capital case shoots through the roof!

Your quote "do unto others as you want them to do unto you" does not exist in the Christian Bible! The closest is "Love your neighbor as you love yourself", which does not translate to "kill your neighbor if he kills your brother". Jesus was firmly against the death penalty! His actions with regard to the woman accused (and probably convicted) of adultery is a testimony to this. Also, his admonition to the robbers condemned alongside him shows that he was opposed to such a barbaric form punishment.

Today, all of Europe has basically abandoned this wicked form of "justice", however, America still practices that shameful act for two reasons: Race and Religion. May god forgive us all!

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capital punishment. . .plzzzzz

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US top court rules lethal injection constitutional

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdUf-yNbC7WHUvkwxgj_81TPN91Q

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WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US Supreme Court Wednesday ruled that lethal injection was constitutional, in a landmark ruling set to pave the way for executions to resume in the country after a hiatus of over six months.

The judges ruled by a 7 to 2 vote that the risk of suffering to those executed by lethal injection did not constitute "cruel and unusual punishment," which is barred under the US Constitution.

Capital punishment is constitutional," said Chief Justice John Roberts who wrote the majority opinion, "so there must be a means of implementing it."

The seven justices were markedly split in their reasons for accepting lethal injection however, all but ensuring that more challenges to the death penalty generally and to lethal injection will make their way through the court system in the future.

Several death row inmates, led by a pair from Kentucky, had urged the Supreme Court to rule on whether lethal injection, the most commonly used form of execution across the United States, violated the constitution.

They had argued that the three-part injection method common in the United States, in which a first shot sedates the inmate, a second paralyzes the muscles and a third stops the heart, caused needless suffering in some cases.

If the execution goes according to plan, the inmate quickly loses consciousness and dies in a few minutes. But if the anesthesia is not properly administered, the inmate can suffer immensely.

In a December 2006 execution, convicted murderer Angel Nieves Diaz had to be given two lethal doses after a needle missed his vein and pierced tissue instead. Grimacing as he struggled to breathe, his execution took 34 minutes.

After the Supreme Court agreed in September 2007 to hear the case, executions were put on hold across the country -- keeping the year's total at 42, compared with 53 executed in 2006, and the peak of 98 in 1999.

In Wednesday's Supreme Court decision, Justice John Paul Stevens, who sided with the majority, said that the internal division among justices on the matter makes future legal challenges all but inevitable.

"Instead of ending the controversy, I am now convinced that this case will generate debate not only about the constitutionality of the three-drug protocol ,  but also about the justification for the death penalty itself," he wrote in his opinion.

Meanwhile, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg -- one of just two justices to part ways with the majority -- said she was not convinced that lethal injection avoided needless suffering.

"Rare though errors may be, the consequences of a mistake about the condemned inmate's consciousness are horrendous and effectively undetectable," she wrote, saying that, at a minimum, other lethal injection procedures should be pursued.

"If readily available measures can materially increase the likelihood that the protocol will cause no pain, a state fails to adhere to contemporary standards of decency if it declines to employ those methods," Ginsberg wrote in her dissent, in which she was joined by Justice David Souter.

The executive director for Amnesty International USA, meanwhile, said the high court ruling did not address the broader question of whether capital punishment should be outlawed for reasons of social justice and equity.

"Ultimately, the preoccupation with lethal injection is nothing more than a distraction from the myriad problems currently plaguing the death penalty system," said Larry Cox of Amnesty.

"Incompetent counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and racial, class and geographic bias are just the tip of the iceberg in a system that is flawed at its very core," he said, calling for the death penalty to be repealed.

Around two-thirds of Americans favor the death penalty, according to the Death Penalty Information Center, in a country where 3,260 detainees are presently on death row.

In an unrelated case Wednesday, the US high court also heard arguments on whether the molest of a child is punishable by death -- a sanction which over the past 30 years has been carried out in the United States exclusively in murder convictions.

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