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Do You Support Ibb 2011 Presidential Ambition?

IBB we all know has declared interest to contest for 2011 presidential election. Do you support that? and Why?

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PPl will jus talk nd talkk, i dnt support him bla bla la bla, hes evill he stole money finee, we al agree about that. Lets look at the main issue on ground at stake in Nigeriaa, Nigeria now does not need no boy to become president because this are really trying times for us, we need a president that can stand hes feet at any time and not some people trying to control him, hus daddy wants to come nd be dictating to IBB, its jus like OBJ, no one cud dicatate to him u do what you have to do based on information from ur special advisers. Ibb still has control and authority. He knows Nigeria more than anybody, that I can tell you, most people think cos d man hes keeping quiet. I tell u Nigeria needs a very firm hand in government now, not al dis smal boyzz that one God father would put them in office. I support the man for presidency, ppl should begin to think outside the box,

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150 million Nigerians could probably lead Nigeria far more effectively than IBB because they lack the level of extreme narcissism inherent in IBB. Those who tout America's support of IBB (if said support actually exists) should not interprete that to mean that the World now thinks IBB is reformed and progressive. Obama , and thus America, recognise that big men , and not big institution, carry the day in Nigeria. To this end they may now be reaching out to one of the "big men" .

If America is now endorsing IBB it will be because they self-servingly assume that IBB , as a "big man" in a region of big man politics, is one of the characters who can keep Nigeria united so that American interest is unharmed by unrest and instability . We in Nigeria know better. IBB is probably the most unprincipled political leader in existence today. Anyone who loves Nigeria will not seek to gamble with its future by placing her in hands tainted with everything negative about humanity .

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Until he declares publicly his intentions, i wouldn't want to beleive this uncanny story.

Is he the best, they can produce? After a sickly one, next a criminal?

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So whenever he declares we will start by reminding him that he has just broken another promise in his long list of broken promises to Nigerians.

He told us 70 was too old.

We will start by asking why the change of heart. Why tell a new lie at 69?

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Goodbye To IBB

By Reuben Abati

06 February 2009

Goodbye to IBB

By Reuben Abati

GENERAL Ibrahim Babangida was the other day, a guest on Mosunmola Abudu's Moments with Mo, a successful lifestyle magazine programme on television, and according to reports, by newspapers which monitored the interview, IBB, as he is known, used the opportunity to make a number of useful declarations. Some of these are so weighty and instructive, the General who once ruled Nigeria, should not be allowed to get away without the benefit of a response.

First, General Babangida tells us that he has no plans whatsoever to run for the position of president in 2011. Can someone please shout Alle-lu-ia? Since 1993 when General Babangida purportedly stepped aside from office, so much brain matter has been expended on speculations that the man "stepped aside" (not retire, not resign), so he could return to power some other day in the future. As every election approached, the spectre of IBB's ambition hung ominously in the horizon, as commentators and political pundits saw his shadow in Nigeria's political firmament and configurations. Much of this, as I had argued before now, was the product of invented and contrived mythology.

But in the run up to the 2007 presidential elections, that shadow was almost assuming a human and physical form. There were reports of meetings and actual manouevres by IBB acolytes, with the real intention of bringing their man back to presidential office. There were IBB for president billboards in parts of the country, especially in Lagos. The scare-mongering was so much, the only missing link was IBB himself showing up on the podium. It would have been tragic if he did. It would have been disastrous, and most unfair to Nigerians, if he had been allowed to return.

IBB in his Moment with Mo, had noted that by 2011, age would no longer be on his side, and so, on the grounds of age, he would not want to seek presidential office. Born on August 17, 1941, IBB will be 70 in 2011. By saying 70 is too old an age for anyone to seek the office of president, IBB was probably speaking tongue-in-cheek. Isn't it often the case in Nigeria that the older a man is, the more of a hustler he becomes? We have seen in the past 10 years, old men who falsify their birth records or who tout old age, and experience as evidence of their ability to perform, and deliver and make a difference. IBB has a much bigger baggage, and it is his record of performance as Nigeria's Head of State and later President.

IBB's supporters through publications, seminars and other activities that have been organised to launder his image insist that chroniclers of contemporary history have been most unfair to him. Their position is that with IBB as president, there was greater purposefulness to the governance process, not the kind of cowboy assertions of the Obasanjo era, or the soporific attitude of the Yar'Adua era. IBB, they say, recruited the best and the brightest and put them to work in the nation's interest. Opinion is divided on this. They grant him further credit for astute political engineering. And they point out insouciantly, that under IBB the Naira was relatively stable and that the stock market did not crash. With the passage of time everything in the long spectrum of history tends to appear acceptable, and so it is with revisionism in Nigeria. What IBB's friends fail to point out however is that he prepared the foundation for Nigeria's woes. His government elevated debauchery to the level of high art. Deception too. And favouritism and cronyism. And First Ladyism. His wife was the most glamorous as well as the most expensive First Lady in Nigerian history. And it was IBB who demonstrated that it was possible to hand over the national economy to a few persons, and make it look like a legitimate right to do so. Obasanjo years after IBB tried to copy this, and ended up turning Nigerians into slaves in their own country - slaves of oligarchs in banking, importation, and oil and gas.

Ever so quick footed, (they didn't call him Maradona for nothing, or Evil Genius as he referred to himself), IBB also pointed out that by not seeking presidential office in 2011, he'd be doing Nigerians a favour. In a sense, yes. My words, not his. But his justification is instructive. He says: "You know, I give it a lot of thought, there are things I would do to correct certain things which a lot of you would not like". IBB had the chance to change and correct certain things between 1985 and 1993 when he was President and the Commander-in-Chief. But did he? Every Nigerian leader gives the impression that he is a Messiah of sorts. The truth is that in 2011, Nigeria would not need a retired military leader pretending to save the country. Nigeria will need someone with the heart, the will power and the physical strength to transform our lives. What many Nigerians would not like to see is IBB mounting the rostrum in 2011, and claiming to have a 10-point agenda that will save Nigeria. By ruling himself out of contention, we thank him for accepting at last, that the road to Nigeria's future is in the future, not the past.

IBB's declaration should make many of his associates unhappy. The step-aside, step-back politics that developed around this particular General soon became an industry for many self-confessed admirers who turned General IBB's politics in the context of Nigeria into a primary business. They organised seminars and symposia. They turned IBB into a subject of intellectual enquiry. They sought to convert him into an icon. Now they have heard from IBB himself: by 2011, he intends to retire effectively from the politics of ambition. IBB's consultants would have to find other clients. He is one former leader whose home fortune-seekers continued to visit, in the firm belief that his return to the politics of office would serve their own purpose. Added to this is the general belief that he is a most generous man. And so like beggars by the roadside, everyone expected a share of the IBB cake. Hopefully, his declaration that his "stepping aside" is now final, would drive the bees away from his home.

But the politics of 2011 notwithstanding, IBB since 1993 had always been confronted with the annulment of the presidential election of June 12, 1993 - the election that was "widely believed" to have been won by Chief Moshood Kashimawo Olawale Abiola. Whatever the 6th President of Nigeria elects to do now, or in the future, he will forever be haunted by the ghost of June 12. Naturally, the issue came up in his interview with Mo. And unlike in previous interviews, he offered a mere explicit explanation of the reasons for the annulment.

According to him, "June 12 was accepted by Nigerians as the best of elections in Nigeria. It was free and fair. But unfortunately we cancelled that election. I used the word unfortunately for the first time. We were in government at the time and we knew the possible consequences of handing over to a democratic government. We did well that we wanted ours to be the last military coup d' etat. To be honest with you, the situation was not ripe to hand over at the time. Forget about the wrong things that happened in politics. The issue of security of the nation was a threat and we could have considered ourselves to have failed, if six months after hand over, there was another coup. I went through coup d' etat and I survived it. We knew that there would be another coup d' etat. But not many people believed what we the military said. They would have allowed me to go away and then they (coup plotters) would regroup and stage another coup. This is how coups are staged - one man will always come to complain. And he will try to convince you about his complaints".

The foregoing argument is specious. As President and Commander-in-Chief, IBB was in a position to arrest the coup-plotters, since he had intelligence reports that they were planning to scuttle the democratic process. He was also in a position to set up structures to protect the democratic order. Rather than vote for and defend democracy, he chose to know-tow to coup-plotters. What kind of morality is he espousing? He had to annul a free and fair election in order to prevent a coup d'etat. He should have handed over power to the legitimate winner of that election. The same IBB who was afraid of a coup still handed over power to a civilian, in a manner that even encouraged a coup taking place. Chief Ernest Shonekan was made Head of an Interim National Government. But he was not the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. The Service Chiefs did not take him seriously. And of course, in due course, General Sani Abacha drove Shonekan out of office, without having to fire a shot. Was this a coup or not? So, what coup was IBB trying to prevent? And has he forgotten that he only recently endorsed the coup in Guinea? The biggest coup against the people of Nigeria was the annulment of the June 12 presidential election. Collectively, we have had to pay a heavy price for it.

Babangida's place in Nigerian history will be defined by that singular act of annulment of a democratic process. In 2006, he had actually collected a nomination form for the 2007 presidential race. But he allegedly withdrew from the PDP nomination process because he didn't want to compete with Mallam Umaru Musa Yar'Adua, who he considers "his brother". His planned return to power was originally designed as an opportunity for him to rehabilitate himself in the public sphere. Power politics doesn't work that way.

Former President Obasanjo had a divine second chance, and later, a third chance. But he blew it all. As IBB prepares for life as an old man (", I am not getting younger. I am an old man", he says) he should search his conscience more carefully. On the question of June 12, he owes Nigerians an apology, not excuses.

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http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/reuben-abati/goodbye-to-ibb-14.html

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The old man has actually said he is too old for office. It is political jobbers who wont allow the man rest and regret his past quietly. They keep probing him to come out and disgrace himself. I will keep taking this talk of IBB Presidency with a grain of salt untill he actually declares publicly.

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We can point to developemental milestones in every regime except IBB's. There is no single positive thing from IBB.

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[li]419 stated in IBB's time. In fact, the criminal at that time could use the CBN[/li]

[li]Drug pushing became a national industry in IBB's time[/li]

[li]Political assasinations were introduced in IBB's time (plane crash at Ejigbo that wiped out a full cadre of the armed forces, Dele Giwa etc)[/li]

[li]IBB introduced unclothed corruption into govt with widespread and legalised bribery[/li]

[li]Armed robbery became an enterprise in IBB's time[/li]

[li]IBB was so bloodthirsty, that all Nigeria's intelligencia had to go into exile (eg Soyinka)[/li]

[li]Whereas, Buhari / Idiagbon made strides into paying off our debt, IBB introduced Structural Adjustment Programme, took on more debt and wondered aloud how the economy was still surviving all he had done to it (shortly after that, Soyinka accused him of being on drugs)[/li]

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IBB is a demon!

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If u were him, u will be enjoying the fame too

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Who are these dreamers & wishful Thinkers spreading this God-forbidden rumour.It puzzles me if its this our modern NIGERIA that Ibb is purportedly thinking of governing again.He's already expired,&if I were him,i'll put a stop to this unfounded rumour.

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You mean thesame list that was later revised followed by an apology by Sanusi? Have you no shame? No need for all the long gist, I am not running a campaign for Pat Utomi or anybody, just pointing out that there are a wealth of alternatives to the so called "evil genius (allegedly)". Your arguements have already been exposed to have no substance. Defend IBBs credibility and achievements, or is asking for a credible, proven and trustworthy candidate nowadays too much of an ask?

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Pat Utomi, a professor of political economy and management expert is a Nigerian entrepreneur whose ultimate goal is to positively affect humanity.

Born in Kaduna on February 6, 1956, Utomi hails from Ibussa in Delta State. He had his primary education at St Thomas School, Kano, 1960-62 and Our Lady of Fatima School, Gusau, 1962-1966. He later proceeded to the prestigious Christ the King College, Onitsha, for his post-primary education and finished up at Loyola College, Ibadan in 1971.

Utomi had his first degree in mass communications at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, UNN. He also holds MA, MPA, and Ph.D in political economy.

He was director of research and corporate affairs, News Training Consultancy, Lagos; chairman/chief executive officer, Patike Communications Limited. In 1982, he was appointed special assistant to President Shehu Shagari. Following the demise of the Second Republic, he became chairman/chief executive officer, Utomapp Holdings Limited, 1984-86, and assistant general manager, corporate affairs, Volkswagen of Nigeria Limited, Lagos, 1983-93.

Utomi co-founded the Lagos Business School, now Pan African University in 1994 with the Opus Dei, a Catholic religious group. He was scholar-in-residence, American University, Washington DC, USA, 1996 and research associate, the Harvard Business School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA, 1996.

He also belongs to many professional bodies. He is a member, Nigerian Institute of Public Relations, NIPR, Institute of Directors, IOD, Nigerian Economic Summit Group and Nigerian Economic Society.

He coordinated the establishment of several civil society groups on good governance and accountability such as Transparency in Nigeria,The Centre for Values in Leadership, The Concerned Professionals, and the Restoration Group. In the business sphere, Utomi is the vice-chairman, Platinium

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/pat-utomi.html

Very basic research which brought this info up that focuses more on his professional qualifications and achievements. He is also active online and from time to time posts articles on NVS, The point I am trying to make is getting informed of other candidates is not a gargantuan task. This was les than a minutes work. IBB is not the only viable option.

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Pat Utomi was among the folks that took bad loans.He needs money; and it usually takes folks like this few months before they start opening foreign bank accounts. I have seen this movie before, we do not need this man, absolutely not this time.

Up till today Duke still struggles to acct for the mighty senseless recreation park project he implemented at his home state during his time as governor. Trust me, in politics such silly and glamorous project is called ex large pepper soup, Sky is the limit. Mostly smart dude or saints are the entities that engage in such an enormous project. This dude did not fool everybody. He also needs more money to steal.

I can assure you guys that none of these 2 dudes can handle the Nigeria of today, and this is why USA or UK will never back such entities. They are good people, but not what Nigeria needs at this time.

Nigerians will experience improvement in less than 6 months after IBB becomes the president. The man is powerful,brilliant, firm,focus and profoundly understands the right button to be pushed to quickly make things happen. He has the people and knows the folks that will do anything and everything to give him their support.

May be we should all ask ourselves why this man is so love, incredible and extremely popular even though, we have more than 6 other living ex presidents.

Why every single politician in Nigeria today stops whenever IBB's name is mentioned?

The election is still far away and many ball-less cowards amongst us are already scared and crying at the same time.

Why?

Something must be very special about this man; and something tells me that this is the exact uniqueness that the USA and UK notice.

They know Nigeria needs a man, an iron man, and incredible hurk to correct thing in our society, and they know that it takes more than just appearance, and big talk to make things happen.

Again, please let us make sure that all our votes count; because when IBB is introduced in 2011 as our new president, I don't want to hear bunch of sweet-fruitloops crying foul play.

You've got to be in the game to win the game. Just don't sit behind your LCD monitor typing poo and expecting miracle to happen.

It usually doesn't work this way.

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Found this on Pat

Born in 1956 into a disciplined Catholic background

Within a few months of his return to Nigeria from Bloomington , United States where he did graduate work, Pat got enlisted by the former Vice-President, Alex Ekwueme to provide consultancy on some public policy papers.

Soon after, he was appointed Special Assistant by former President, Shehu Shagari - a position he lost following the military coup of December 1983, which terminated the Second Republic .

In 1986, he joined Volkswagen of Nigeria PLC (VWON) as the Corporate Affairs helmsman,

Rising to become the reputed organization's Deputy Managing Director in 1991.

Pat laced a personal relationship with Jesus, such as would give true meaning to his successes. he also soon discovered that he treaded a path, which only led him to the brink of premature death. But God, mercifully intervened,

Previously, the trauma of his father's sudden death drove him in 1980 to make a cove1?ant with God, namely: that if God grants him the strength and intellectual composure to speedily push through the multiple academic programmes he had enrolled for at the Indiana University, he would commit the remainder of his life to serving Him.

Pat Utomi was formerly the Deputy Managing Director of Volkswagen Nig PLC. He is the Chairman of Platinum Bank (now Bank PHB), and also a chairman of Business Day and Director of Lagos Business School.

His love for God is interesting.

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Hahahahahahaha.

Time will tell.

However, i will research on Pat and be back with you.

But in the meantime, how did he made his money?

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erm. . . . . IBB has been tried and tested (he did rule Nigeria at one point). There are some progressives who have been tried and tested in their states or some other position they were given; but according to your arguement, a tried and tested dictator (IBB), would be better?

Whether you are for or against IBB is not my business, I was just calling out @BigB1 with regards to his weak arguements in defence of his preferred candidate. Was also calling you out on the notion that there are hardly any progressives interested in the presidency. I brought up the name of Pat Utomi who ran last elections, and told you better research on your path (and on everyone's) ,would suffice instead of saying we should settle for a tried and tested dictator based on the weak notion that there are no other choices. People should get informed of the choices before they make their decision.

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Once again, i am neither for or against IBB, neither am i for any of the leaders so far, when the election draws near, i will do my home work and know who to give my vote to, IBB is yet to declare nor Duke

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Tried and tested by who and what?

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I will leave Nigeria if he wins any election.

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The difference btw a state politics and federal politics cant be overlooked.

I will admit that i dont know many of them, and that was why i said, if Duke would do a good job, sure, he will get my vote, but Nigeria is in too much state of mess to be doing trial and error.

I will love to see a good person lead and do a good job, but just cant be doing more of trial and error

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So trying a known and tested dictator would be better than trying a professed (and in some cases tested) progressive?

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Don't say there aren't better leaders, just say you are not aware of them. Genuinely no offence intended, but saying 'IBB would do' because you could not do some basic research is a tad lethargic. I mean, you didn't even seem to be aware of Donald Duke till of recent. Last presidential elections, there was Pat Utomi (and this is just off the top of my head). I am not intentionally trying to castigate you, but trying to hold the citizenry of the country to greater accountability too because that arm of our democracy has been failing just as bad (if not even worse). IBB shouldn't do just because people have not looked at what other parties are offering.

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IBB at that time was not into reforming anything n Nigeria, at that time, he has no clue what leadership was all about, and besides, what has barrack man got to do with governing civilians, they dont speak same language?

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i disagree big b1.

ibb after usurping power in 1985 had his chance to clean up the system. he failed woefully in his attempt at 'cleaning the system' for 8yrs. now you're saying he's reformed and wants another shot at it?

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Letus take President Fashola as a study case.

Many have given credit to Gov Fashola for working so hard for the people of Lagos; but recently Fashola has been struggling to push Tinubu aside. And so far Fashola has been unsuccessful.

My question is if Fashola can not handle mere Tinubu how the hell do you expect him to handle the north and the Niger Delta boys? Nigeria of today requires iron hand and a well respected entity to start and complete the clean up process. After this process is successfully completed then folks like Fashola or Shoyinka can now be elected as Nigerian president. But for now allow the magnificent IBB to return to clean up this mess, or else Nigerians will forever experience same old shi t regardless of the entity that is living in Aso rock.

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Only in Nigeria will a poor man becomes a Councillor and all of a sudden, he is a millionaire

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Don't you think that you can find a more honourable profession rather than one as a(n) a.r.s.e licker dictator apologist?

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Please what is this whole Dr IBB all about?

When did IBB move from General to Doctor?

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We will remain in the dark time if all we do is to recycle these old people or old politicians.

I completely disagree.

The truth is: old politicians are even better than the new politicians. Our main problems in Nigeria are:1. silly system,2. weak constitution and 3. foolish people.

It absolutely has nothing to do with old school or new school. As soon as we realize that we need a reliable road map to guard all government officials and also the rest of the Nigerian citizens, the sooner majority of our problems will be solved immediately.

And I can assure you that this (road map) can not be done by just any Nigeria, regardless of new politician vs old politician. I honestly feel that the clean up process can only be done successfully by a well respected entity who has the experience and capability to handle ANY politician or government official in Nigeria today. And this is why USA and UK are seriously pulling for the return of the one and only, the magnificent IBB.

All we all need now is to stop crying and make sure that all our votes count.

With confidence, I have already casted my vote for the best man for the job, Dr.IBB.

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Nigeria can't move away from these dark times if all we keep doing is to recycle all these people that have been in government since independence. Why does Nigeria have to always be ruled by same crop of people? I dont get why Nigerian don't want a change for once.

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you are entitled to your own opinion but not to your own facts

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http://www.saharareporters.com/real-news/sr-headlines/4897-obj-ask-yaradua-to-resign.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8507289.stm

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You mean the one that aljeezera carried, or the one that some govt talked about?

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By the way and for the records

OBJ asked Yar'adua to resign on the 21st of January

While NASS passed resolution to empower Jonathan on the 9th of February

This is why I say you should aquaint yourself of the issue before engaging in a debate

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You surely misunderstanding the true meaning of coward here.

The man stood his ground and annul the election, and nothing happened and you wanna call such man a coward, Americans and other nations in the world made noise and yet nothing happened, and same man is now the man of Americans, that they think can help Nigeria out of her mess, have u wonder how come?

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That is why he is even more of a coward

He was scared of his CAS who threatened him not to hand over to democratic rule.

No leader worth their salt will implement months and months of transition in which Nigerians behaved heroicly and voted in a free and fair election, then he refuse to hand over. Thats pure cowardice.

No leader worth his salt will publicly lead a people into a ditch and yet come back to ask to lead the same people again.

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He called off result of an election and you said, he is coward?

Now tell me, the whole nation did nothing, and yet the man walk freely on the street and you think that is cowardice act?

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OBJ Never said anything till Jonathan was made to be the Acting president.

BTW . . . all i meant by "dead president" has made him the Acting was that, he has already accepted and said that Jonathan will continue to take care of power while he gets better.

So what do expect IBB to say after that?

Also, i said earlier today that all those that have said something all have hidden agenda and now that IBB has refused to talk, u said, he has hidden agenda, common now.

Again, i am not saying there are not better people in Nigeria, like i told you yesterday, if Duke was all u said he is, i will surely support him too, however, Nigeria has suffered too much to have time for trial and error with some half baked leaders.

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IBB has always been a coward. He can not challenge anyone openly; he is good at attacking when they are disarmed.

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Fhemmy just spend more time to aquaint yourself of the issues before engaging in a debate

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First and foremost Yar'adua did not make Jonathan Acting President NASS did

OBJ made his comments way before Yar'adua returned to Nigeria if you are suggesting OBJ made his comments after the silly press confrences by Segun Adeniyi

Then finally, the constitution does not provide for an indefinite acting President. It does not design the position of acting President to take the place of a dead or incapacitated President. So since we don't know that Yar'adua is fit to continue in office and yet Jonathan has not been made substantive head and sworn in. The crisis has not been rovolved.

So if there is any atom of leadership in IBB. He will stand up for the truth.

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The "dead man" has given the Vice the responsibility to rule the nation and he is not ruling, so now what else is there to be said?

We have an acting president, OBJ said something later when the A-Presido has already been appointed, so what was the use of his speech?

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IBB has not started saying anything yet. All who genuinely care about Nigeria should speak out against the prospects of a dead man running Nigeria by proxy. I think I find it very worrying that you think he should say nothing.

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At what point do OBJ started talking?

As a matter of fact, i think OBJ shd cover his face in shame cos he led Nigeria into all these mess, cos he was aware of the mess before it all happened.

I think IBB dont have to talk, cos like i said, nothing to be said.

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There is nothing to be said, when the man that installed the sick man has said almost nothing . . .

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the facts, are the facts

in our country's hour of need he refused to stand to be counted, neither did he show leadership.

he does not deserve my vote.

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here is the translated version of kosovo's post. . .

see? it's not hard to speak simple English!

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Just cos those that spoke say something does not mean they care at all, infact most of those that talked said something all cos they cant wait to be able to run for the higher office.

What can people like Shagari say, what did OBJ Said?

they can all talk all they want, but how come nothing happened.

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At the part in bold. It is interesting that you assume what his convitions were to begin with.

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I say a big NO to IBB. He wld b d biggest fool and d most shameles human eva 2 attempt a shot @ d presidency of a country he totally destroyed. If he had done a little to maintain our power stations dat we had den the govt of 2day won't b talkin of 6000MW he alone laid d solid foundation for corruption and failure of govt services in dis country. I'll ratha vote a Yaradua dat I can't c dan vote an IBB who just lost his wife.

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Support who? IBB, that Fool is the last person that i can cast my vote to. Is time to tell the norther that there time is UP,

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