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Feminism: What Is Your View About It?

I am soon going to have an oral test in English and I have decided to choose Feminism as my subject matter. I'd like you all to please share your views with me in order to later use them as documents for my research! Your cooperation will be highly appreciated!

This is the question: Do you believe in this women emancipation?

Please vote and write down your answer. This will be useful to me to stipulate a percentage of the women and men who voted against or pro!

Thank you in advance!

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When Mary Wollstonecraft introduced this issue of feminism, it was like a mere concept of discuss. Now it has eaten deep into the marrows of our women like a canker worm that, they cannot do without it. To me, Feminism is an ALIEN ideology which do not reflect on our cultural believes. I don't think it should have a place in our society. Contemporariness is just a mere reflection of an era, must we blend with it and jilt our own formulated patterns or basis of social order? Feminism should not be reckoned with at all. AS a Christian, i advise women to go to the Bible on how to live their lives, and stop romancing with imperialist ideological inputs.

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A very interesting topic.

the truth is some women take this feminism thing too far because they are confused. For me feminism is equal right, respect and Justice for every human being despite their gender. However some women think that it is about asserting none existent rights and disrespecting their men. From my experience a man is a man and a woman is a woman. we all have our unique features which we must all respect in order to have a happy life. no one is better or bigger than another and where man and wife live together with each respecting each others rights, views and feelings, the children turn out very balanced and good members of society. Where however one person feels Superior to the other person and a woman wants her husband to wear the skirt or man wants his wife to sit and watch him bring in dirty bitches into their house in the name of superiority, hell is then fury like a woman or man scorned because peace is gone forever. after all women and men are born by women, carried in the belly for 9 months and delivered the same way. so feminism is about gender equality, love and respect for one another.

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I find it sexy. I can't stand timid women who are not assertive. I don't mean rude. Nothing like a woman with some Fluid and brains she can use. Instead of depending on a man like a child.

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In the book of Genesis, Satan bye-passed Adam to persuade his wife to taste of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil(today's western university education, mass media), and Eve in turn poisons Adam through persuasion. This is what feminism has done today. This tool was designed to corrupt the purpose of the sexes and to confuse the roles that God had created them for.

My advise to you all; please stop eating the fruit of the knowledge good and evil(feminism in mass media). God is not happy with it. But if you persist, you will one day be judged and you will have yourself to blame when God eventually calls you up for appraisal.

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feminism is all well and good,but a woman cant eat her cake and have it,first they ll like men to treat them as ladies,getting the door,paying for meals and behaving with a certain decorum around you,and yet a man who behaves contrary to this is labeled a brute,ucultured e.t.c

also,most sucessful "women" have exhibited manly,masculine traits,besides they have not exactly been a huge fan of feminism,so where are the highly sucessful feminism ideologist,off the top of m head i can think of m.thatcher,c.rice,h clinton,obama, and i dont seee them as being feminists ideologists

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The word feminism shouldn't even be on the lips of females of alkebulan descent because that label connotes a eurocentric agenda. Just like every other eurocentric approach to problems that seeks to label, grade, compartmentalize and reduce components of whole dynamic networks, feminism entails the existence of some sort of universal conflict with an opposite pole i.e 'masculinism'. However, this conflict is unique to white/arab societies and the assumed universality is a falsehood. The historical paradigm of whites and arabs disallows any induction of female empowerment as divine law that's why it's framed as an 'ism'

The overlapping of the goals and demands of both 'feminazists' and 'feminists' blurs whatever supposed boundaries that exists between them.

The empowerment goals that our sistas should be engaged in has nothing to do with feminism because it is not an 'ism' rather it is right action; a quickening of the elevation of consciousness. Their empowerment goals should be envisioned as an indigenous movement that will enable women to resurrect the black family and nation, and not as a petty competition with the black man for societal privileges. The usefulness of an empowerment goal must be judged by its effectiveness at facilitating functional and progressive family units and community structures.

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It seems you don't understand feminism

Here it goes

Feminism is the belief that women should have equal political, social, sexual, intellectual and economic rights to men. It involves various movements, theories, and philosophies, all concerned with issues of gender difference, that advocate equality for women and that campaign for women's rights and interests. According to some, the history of feminism can be divided into three waves. The first wave was in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the second was in the 1960s and 1970s, and the third extends from the 1990s to the present. Feminist theory emerged from these feminist movements. It is manifest in a variety of disciplines such as feminist geography, feminist history and feminist literary criticism.

Feminism has altered predominant perspectives in a wide range of areas within Western society, ranging from culture to law. Feminist activists have campaigned for women's legal rights (rights of contract, property rights, voting rights); for women's right to bodily integrity and autonomy, for abortion rights, and for reproductive rights (including access to contraception and quality prenatal care); for protection from domestic violence, sexual harassment and molest; for workplace rights, including maternity leave and equal pay; and against other forms of discrimination.

During much of its history, most feminist movements and theories had leaders who were predominantly middle-class white women from Western Europe and North America. However, at least since Sojourner Truth's 1851 speech to American feminists, women of other races have proposed alternative feminisms. This trend accelerated in the 1960s with the Civil Rights movement in the United States and the collapse of European colonialism in Africa, the Caribbean, parts of Latin America and Southeast Asia. Since that time, women in former European colonies and the Third World have proposed "Post-colonial" and "Third World" feminisms. Some Postcolonial feminists, such as Chandra Talpade Mohanty, are critical of Western feminism for being ethnocentric. Black feminists, such as Angela Davis and Alice Walker, share this view.

Since the 1980s, standpoint feminists have argued that feminism should examine how women's experience of inequality relates to that of racism, homophobia, classism and colonization. In the late 1980s and 1990s postmodern feminists argued that gender roles are socially constructed, and that it is impossible to generalize women's experiences across cultures and histories.

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you will get more by click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

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I overstand what feminism is. What i'm saying is that pre-colonial alkebulan society was egalitarian and way different from what the white/arabs had. The feminist movement today is a natural consequence of a globalized political, cultural and socio-economic system that uses western imperialistic models as its standard; these models being inherently anti-female in essence.

If colonialism and globalization didn't occur, women in alkebulan will not find a need to be liberated.

Also, women in alkebulan should frame their empowerment goals in accordance to tradition and not some foreign interpretive context. For instance, the white Dam demands equity in the family setting and such a demand does not facilitate the development of functional cohesive family units because gender roles are needed to maintain order and identity.

Feminism, if not approched with caution, would be counter-productive to the progress of alkebulan society.

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We need to first overstand the impact that colonialism, christianity/islam and capitalism has had on traditional Alkebulan(or so-called african) society.

In pre-colonial times women were treated far more equitably and honourably. Women had political and economic power that was more or less in par with that of males. Women were influential; they served as chiefs, warriors, empresses and held other important positions of authority. Women were part of the divine preisthood who served as intercessors between the people and the Gods/Goddesses/ancestors. Women had equal access to communal lands which conferred the possibility of social mobility and economic empowerment. Some societies in Alkebulan were matriarchal, tracing lineage and entitlements to inheritance through the mothers' family. Monuments, liberal arts, literature and all powerful deities were dedicated to the divine feminine principal(see ancient Kemet/egypt for some of the most elaborate forms of these expressions)

All this was destroyed when Colonialism introduced the masculine ideology of patriachy which drastically re-defined our traditional identities, values, high morals and norms, all of which elevated women to their rightful place in society. Patrimonial political systems were established where patrons whom personalized the state bureaucracy and privatized national resources bought clients over whom in turn organized support from the masses.

Capitalism imposed the commercialization of farm lands which were transformed from communal lands to private lands and ownership were tranfered solely to men. This disadvantaged women and reduced their economic power markedly.The introduction of legal tender/money through taxable cash cropping systems further strenghtened the "male-bread-winner" family code system and, in the proces, female right to employment equity was relegated to the back seat.

Then christianity/islam introduced belief systems that indoctrinated the alkebulanite on the inherent inferiority of women. These religions acknowlegde God the father, God the Son but not God the mother. The supreme position of the divine female principle is denied. Women are banned from preisthood. Women are said to have been made from just one rib in the male despite her genetic superiority. Women in alkebulan identify with, and are devoted to, religions that teach male superiority over wombmen/women.

So my dear sistas, as you can see , the black male is not your enemy. Know your enemy. Your hatred for the oppressor must be externalized not internalized. Be mad at your religion and those white/arab devils who imposed them on your ancestors, Be furious at this universalized liberal market systems that is governed by neo-liberal policies which are anti-woman enpowerment in essence. The white/arab male's enmity toward the feminine principle is genetic and has a long savage history that goes way back to the caves and hills of the caucasus mountians where their females were brutalized in every way imaginable. That's also why white females have a pressing psychological need for liberation.

But as usual these devils have dragged our sistas into their madness and savagery.

My sistas, you must resist being manipulated and used as an instrument of confusion and destruction in our families, and by extension, our communities and nation. Wake up sista, love thy self and join in our collective uncompromising fight against these foreign ideologies and models.

It's all about our right to self-determination.

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no be today oyinbo don dey teach people to do things against natural order.

dem dey always suffer the consequences, like men yanshing men, their children taking drugs to kill themselves and also always searching fruitlessly for hapiness in the midst of supposed plenty.

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feminism? u mean the attempt by some people to alter the natural order of things?, I'm out of here

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in a marriage you can argue otherwise since a man is always wanting to be the head (it's a testosterone thing)

I already told you man in this sense refers to all of us. I can also argue using your logic that it doesn't say "all men excluding blacks and women"

It is hard comparing third world nations to the western countries. By tradition, culture, and religion, their ways of living are different.

It is extremely difficult to debase a way of life that has been established for many years in one night.

I hope you can ask a historian at your school for better understanding. Your scope of thought is errant.

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the world is rapidly changing and i think feminism is a thing of the past.

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you were going real well till you said this

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UNWARRANTED INSULT

is that what life is to consist of? money and looks? 2pac made more money that sade but I'd not want my son to be like 2pac. P.diddy makes lots more money than sade and I will not want my son to live like 2 pac. Money is not necessarily what makes life good.

anyways, the sade woman get okpon (balding forehead)

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Why are you so jealous of little old me and my marriage?

Do you need anytips to find a secure and mature Christian Igboman?

Did that efulefu finally see through you and took to his heels?

There is a nice wacko like you out there for you!!

What is age but a number.

Never stated I was 25.

Maybe your life will end when and if that crackhead finds you.

Please do not miss anydoses of those pills.

We can't afford to have suicide on nairaland.

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It sounds really childish that you're blaming your being manipulated on someone else. If you allow yourself to be manipulated, you've already confirmed that you have yourself to blame. Not to sound redundant, but maybe you shouldn't allow yourself to be manipulated.

Your second point is something that many a feminist and womanist have looked into and are now looking even deeper into. Although many feminist/womanist are against relegating women's role as the sole caretaker of children (understandably so), in this also lies a different form of power. I agree with you that when women realize that they can shape the future generation by raising young men and women who will grow up to fight for equality and a better and just system for everyone regardless of gender, female oppression will slowly become a thing of the past. unfortunately, many women are their own enemy in that they pass on the sexists ideas they have been taught and have grown up with onto their own children. And these simply continue the cycle. So on this, you and I agree that women should do better in raising progressive-minded individuals. 

Why don't we just stay away from rhetorics and start with treating people the way you would like to be treated. You shouldn't fear anyone treating you badly unless you've done something wrong, or unless you're messing with some abnormal individual.

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eeeeeeeeewo radiant!!

I knew you had another personality.

please keep them all together in one.

anyway welcome back from psychia

we all wished you well

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it looks like Seun or the naija child character deleted her previous posting,attacking me for no reason.

Why am I so attractive?

Lord why me?

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all this big big grammer from a high schooler?

wes shouldn't you be in class now?

too bad they don't flog anymore.

How can you be skipping classes like that!!

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feminism is an ideology.

just like republicanism or liberalism, everyone who claims an ideology falls on a spectrum.

there are the ultra liberal democrats and the conservative democrats. moderate democrats also exist.

same with feminism. radical feminists exist, moderate ones exist e.t.c and there are still some that are conservative.

it's only natural

what matters most is that a common belief of equality is shared

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What do you mean that we caused the situation we are in today? That's just typical of men - put all the blame on women. I would say both women and men caused it. Women for waiting too long to allow this become some useless patriarchal parade and Men for making us think that they are stronger than us.

I do not know your definition of radical feminism but if it is supposed to mean something like Femi-Nazis no problem.

That quote you just made shows how vulnerable men can be - why do you blame everything on us? I've heard of men falling due to the use of their lesser brains. I've heard of men falling due to greed. Do not blame us for anything whatsoever.

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It depends on which of the feminisms you are talking about. Is it male-feminism, radical feminism or what?

For ladies that say they should be on same stands with men or get some consideration, I would say that as men, we should also ask for men liberation for we have been manipulated by women for so long.

Whatever condition women find themselves today is solely caused by them, let's remember that lots of us were born by women and got our first indoctrination from them. Our mindset towards the existence was first shaped by a woman (if she decided not to shape it well is her business).

I also believe that women have made a very good job of arranging society the way it is, with the man seen as having brute force and the woman as emotional or better still, psychological force (women are such good schemers, I am talking from experience). The man is then placed in a situation where he is most times at the mercies of a woman (though it is meant to be a symbiotic relationship).

For the radical feminists, I have this to say to you, it is only a woman that has failed in creating a home that goes out shouting radical feminism.

To all feminists, feminism is one confused philosophy or movement. The supposed feminists fight themselves and disagree on so many issues like the final position of men in society and in their lives, among others. I think it is not worth it.

Finally, to all the brothers in the house, there is a wise saying that the fear of women is the beginning of survival, every man who does not fear a woman is a either ignorant of foolhardy, do not forget that "BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MAN THAT FALLS IS A WOMAN".

#Candid Submission#

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estrogen is still alive on this thread i see lol

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It amazes me to see the kind of ignorance that still abounds out there.

A lot of people (men and women) hear feminisms and instantly reactive negatively, mostly because they don't know what it is. I am sure we ALL know women who are strong, confident and able to speak their minds, after all most of our mothers, aunts, sisters, grandmothers, wives, girlfriends, etc are like that. Some are educated, some are not, some have families, some do not, for whatever reason. Some work (whether it be in the market, in the school, at the world bank), and some are housewives. These women are ALL feminists. You don't have to be a militant to be a feminist. It all depends on the name. It is like the difference between 'runs' and prostitution. What difference?

The 'anti-feminists' should sit down and think about the people who give us women a bad name. Is it people like Dora Akunyili? Or the makers of all the Nollywood films that glorify prostitution?

Feminism as a movement is simply about removing obstacles in the way of women making the most of our lives. If there is something holding you back, you try to change it. Sometimes people don't go about this the wrong way buyt, hey thats life. It applies to men too.

Nigerian women are admired all over the world because we stand up for ourselves and (mostly) have fulfilling lives. There are so many of us who manage to raise six kids and have a successful high level career. That is part of feminism.

So I think we should all calm down and look at the women we know and respect imagine what it would be like if we lived in Iran and you were liable to be hanged simply for removing your face covering while you were having an asthma atack (true story, they killed the woman)

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I hear you. I'm not surprised that some people will try to defend the way things are, since they benefit from it. And while I still don't think nairaland is a good place for this discussion,  it seems some of the ladies have done a great job of stating their cases, so, who knows, you might have someone who's interest in the subject will be sparked and might go and do more research to learn more about the issue of feminism/womanism and female oppression.

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I am still thinking about how I am going to elaborate all this information. Well someone would say there are so many ignorant comments, but that's the fun: the level of ignorance about feminism in the African society (especially in men).

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Lol even without court alot leave their children behind, talkless of blaming it on the court system. I beg ignore Donzie, jare.

Im bored with this thread, we keep saying the same thing over and over while others rather just sit and believe the wrong definition of the word no matter how many times people who actually KNOW what they are talking about say anything to the contray. In other words trying to educate some people is just a lost cause.

Better things can be done with such time. Wanna believe they are all just "man hating" lesbians, than that's your problem. Who are we to stop you from bathing in such ignorance.

*yawns all over this thread*

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I agree with j-girl on this. I highly doubt "most" men want the responsibility of taking care of the kids. You still have a lot of men abandoning fatherly responsibilities when they can and women fighting for child support, etc,  While you are right to question the court's decisions, many times certain factors are taken into account before custody rights are granted, which includes the parent that plays the major role in taking care of the kids when the couples were together. If the mother was the one doing most of the care-taking, and is deemed capable of providing for the kids, responsible, etc,  it would make sense that when the couple divorces that custody would go to her.

I believe If more men took child care seriously and as their responsibility--instead of leaving it to women--society (and the courts) in general would be forced to look at custody battles differently.

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However we know that both genders needs each other, infact men needs us the most.

Mens can't make decisions, so u know why people u guys are not a thinker.

Men acts before thinking but women thinks from but angles before making a decision on anything.

The only thing women needs your for is to donate Fluid to have babies.

we don't need men to provide for the family becos we can do that ourselves without any help from your.

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For me, I make noise about the evil of men not as oppressors but as liars and cheaters. But yet I still plan on getting married and having kids.

Most women need men, some need women and some were just born to be alone.

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Some Women who do not take primary care of the kids end up getting custody anyway just because they're WOMEN. This is discrimination, INJUSTICE staring you in the face.

This is trash, many men have tried and more men have failed, the courts almost always hand over the kid to the mom unless the mom is some druggie or something.

I was in church today and a woman like you said clearly, feminists are not into real business. They scream of the evil of men and how they do not need them, only to go and have relationship with men elsewhere. Real life, women need men and vice versa.

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of course men aren't screaming equality. why should they be when they dominate society?

yeah women get the kids 99% of the time because the men never want to take care of kids. It's always the woman's job to get the kids.

a lot of men who want to get the kid will ultimately hand the kid to the care of his new wife or some other woman anyway.

fathersright.com

familiesneeddad.com

dadwanthischild.com

men'srights.com

what do you think these websites are for?

It shows that women are making progress!!!

IMO, whoever has been primarily taking care of the kid before the divorce gets the right to keep the kid.

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Thank You! They shouldn't talk about this again - feminists know what they want.

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See the kind of beliefs you hold, men are incapable of taking care of kids, JUSTICE is near!

How will you know when you do not give them the chance?. . .Equal opportunities, don't give away our kids to women!

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Donzman dont start. Thats rubbish!

Those men who want their kids fight for them.

But be honest babe most men dont know how to look after their kids. The thought of having them 24/7 scares most. Since most believe its the mothers job and her job alone!

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Just like there are social restrictions on what a woman can/cannot do, there are also social restricitons on what a man can/cannot be. Do you see men screaming inequality?. . .When there is a divorce, the woman will most likely get the kids 99% of the time, do you see men screaming injustice?

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I do. Both men and women should be allowed to be whatever they want to become.

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being a feminist doesn't mean one works all day and night for women's cause.

a feminist is merely a person who believe in equal opportunity of the sexes. If a female believes in this, she's more likely to challenge the status quo.

I would say Hillary Clinton is a feminist.

and again, it's all about choice. some women are satisfied where they are.

while others are not.

a woman who lovessss to cook and impress guys is more likely not to be a feminist than a woman who loves to read or lead or play sports.

but shouldn't it be possible for women to do whatever they want to do without social restrictions on what "their place" ought to be.

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If women are aware of the inequality and they are not interested in the solution, then the feminist's work is done.

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you are misinterpreting what "equality" of sexes means.

ok. all men are created equal. yes but are all men created equal in reality? no. some are born to be succesful while others are born wretched. some have more opportunity than others while others have less opportunities. some are born with physical or mental advantage. e.t.c

"all men are created equal" the phrase was used in the political sense to mean that every man has an equal stake in the "unalienable rights" which are liberty, life and the pursuit of happiness. whether rich or poor, strong or weak, all men have the same natural rights in the new democracy.

you know that this "all men are equal" wasn't made to include neither blacks nor women. these two underpriviledged groups didn't hold much stake in the new democracy.

again, feminists seek political, economic and social equality. this is achievable (and the proove is the contrast between the situation of women in the western and advanced countries vs women in third world and islam nations).

all men are created equal. but will you see a black man and call him a white man? NO but is it possible that they can have political, economic and social equality YES.

you say you're against gender-based oppression? well, both sexes have to be on an equal level in other for it to be less likely that one will be able to dominate the other.

nairaland ad:

women make up half of the globe but make up 75% of poor people

women do most of the farm work but only 1% are farm owners

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Depends on your interpretation or misinterpretation of the classification.  take for example all "men" are created equal, this means all persons are created equal, the "men" was a substitute for humans.  With that said, that scope does not apply to all theories/sayings.  You cannot see a man and call him a woman, and vice versa - that's where the distinction takes effect

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I'm probably bewildered with all these feminist rants due to my background. As some other person put it:

Igbo society had established a high regard for women, reflected by such evidence as the veneration and popularity of the earth mother Ala, the perfection of gender balance and the independent spirit exhibited by Igbo women in their new

environment. (speaking of slavery, contact Donzman for link).

This is probably why I do not get where you feminist come from saying men are out to oppress women. When I think of the Aba Women Riots back in 19what?. . .20's?. . .These were women having their say in the society, how oppressed could they have been?

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We hold these truths to be self evident, that all persons are created equal. YES.

with that said, the idea of equity between man and woman is as naturally impossibly as it is biologically impossible for so many reasons, and anyone that thinks otherwise, is just not willing to accept the truths.

We can start with the argument that one is a Man and the other has a wo before the man, as the first distinction.

From this distinction we can begin to excrutiate the reasons why these parallelisms are impossible to attain in this space we live in, but I am afraid that the discussion will be far beyond our reaches.

All in all, I am most definitely apalled by, and against any form of gender-based opression.

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What exactly are feminists fighting for?. . .In a million years, there are things a man can do that a woman can't do and vice versa. That's the nature of life, what exactly is equality?. . .We should all have rods and holes?

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lol that stand up was done before his divorce

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lol I like that answer.

better than some crazy stranger nanny.

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I believe that's what majority of them want. . .

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Exactly my mind sharetroll! God bless you!

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