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Governor Bukola saraki Vs Governor Raji Fashola

who wins?

proposed for president 2011.

who do u choose?

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In comparing Dr. Bukola Saraki to Fashola, a lot of respondents have failed to take into consideration the amount of revenue that Lagos State has compared to what Kwara State. We have people talking about what Fashola has done in his first 100 days compared with what Dr. Bukola Saraki has been able to accomplish in one term. I wonder if Fashola would have been able to do everything he did in 100 days in Lagos, if he were the governor of Kwara. The answer is simply no. The money is simply not there. The best way the two of them can be compared is to look at what they each have been able to do with what has been at their disposal. In my opinion, I think Dr. Bukola Saraki is much better than Raji Fashola for this reason. Saraki has been able to manage a state with limited resources exceptionally well, while Fashola has been managing a state, with one of the highest revenue allocation. Lagos was a state that could survive 4 years without FG allocation - come on, what are we talking about?

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Saraki wasted the funds of SGBN to finance his political ambition, he is crook.

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personaly it think fashola under normal circumstances will make a better president, but as you know in Nigeria, if wishes were horses beggars would buy the latest camry 2009. So "yawn", i think "yawn again", the only thing we can "snoooooore",  Please "yaaaaaawn" wake me up when things are back to normal in Nigeria.

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A waste of time surely? It is not the turn of the SW.

None of these guy's is likely to ever rule Nigeria because of quota system, power rotation, federal character (or whatever name you call it).

The earliest they can make is 2020, by which time, they'll both be much less potent.

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Eko o ni baje, Naija o ni daru

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You can test the ability of a 2 years old child, but don't give him a bag of cement.

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why compare Sleep and Death, Fashola wins

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Saraki has tried but pound for pound, he doesnt come close to Fashola in Vision, Integrity, Care and Simplicity in governance.

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Based on the following criteria, we can select the most suitable candidates-

Current Performance

Past antecedence

Background

Experience

Governor Fashola is a better presidential material than Bukola Saraki.

--- Successful presidents tend to be hard working and persistent, Only a hardworking and persistent individual can do magic in Lagos.

--- Great presidents tend to be open minded, Listen to a Fashola speak, he speaks from the heart, no be fronting.

--- Great presidents of the past were more imaginative and more interested in art and beauty than the less successful presidents, look around lagos and you would know there is a new sheriff in town, Eko atlantic is imaginative and innovative,

--- Great presidents have exceptional ability to tolerate stress and adversity, Nigeria does not need untested leaders like Yaradua that rode on his father's, brother's, obj's back to the presidency, nor bukola that rode on his father's, Corruption induced goodwill, style of politics,

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wetin that one mean? fashola has a far [b][/b]B[b][/b]RIGHTER AND [b][/b]R[b][/b]EWARDING [b][/b]F[b][/b]UTURE THAN BUKKY. ANYDAY

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l just hate this thread

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fashola of course!!!!!

take a look at wat he has done in just 700days in office

while Saraki is using his 6yrs in office

i mean dis two should not be compared atall.

Saraki hands down!!!!

Fashola all the way!!!!!!!!

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I've calculated it & with the current zoning arrangement, no south westerner will can have a go at the top gong 4 d nxt 32 YEARS! I'm a livin witness 2 wat fash has done in miGHTY miGHTY lagos, and as much as i'd like d idea of him bein prez, i'd go 4 saraki, evn tho i havnt bin 2 kwara. He's got a betta chance, if 'umoru' doesnt go 4 a 2nd term

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Gbam!!!

You're right ma bro.

Which way forward Nigerians?

Are we gonna sit back and look, while our leaders are being selected by some calibers of people?

We need to rise up to this challenge in our various zones come 2011.

Nigeria will be great if we resist selection.

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ladies and gentlemen in the room, are we through with the present mistake we made in 2007 yet? guys let us stop and think, the question remains: where are we heading to?

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i have been monitoring this post for some times now, initially i dont want to post in it, but i think i have to.

when i see peoples comment,deffinately not true,because most of this people post with sentimenst.

they post based on interest thewy have for a perticular person and hatred they have for the other.

talking about fashola, he has done some good, and also to bukky

but when we have to go by the defination of governing, then i do not see fashola coming close to bukola saraki,

Fashola

fashola has turned lagos into beeing a mega city according to the some people, but note

the defination of governing is providing for the people. then if any governor divert from thgis, he has not achieve anything as far as governing is concern,

the only reasonable achievement i can see from fashola is handing the road, which is good.

but besides this, he has made thousand of people jobless, are these people not part of those he his governing?

he sent people packing from there business areas without providing alternative, is that governing.

people whose yearly profit is less than 50,000, fashola expect them to acquire a shop of 400k after sending them packing from there businesses.

Fashola has done well in the area of rail station which is currently under cunstruction.

Bukola saraki

This guy became the governor through his fathers influence, and he has really showed the difference,

i am from ilorin, i lived there all my life not until 2002 when i travelled to lagos.

i am one of the hatersof saraki ever since, i hate his style of politics and everything abt him, and this has made me dislike his son aswell.

but to be honest, i came to realise u cant judge the son with his fathers act,

abt the bANK. this governor knew nothing abt it, if u have any question to ask, go ask the father.

when i visited kwara state 2006, i changed my view abt him.

he has really done so well i am must confess

way back, we use to wake as early as4 am to search for water b4 going to school and this continue till when i left ilorin 2002. but when i came back 2006, everything has changed u have water everywhere.

he has done much abt electricity and i am show that in Nigeria today, no state has more stable electricity than kwara state.

he has emback on road contructions, brigdes and others.

go check out a clean enviroment,

he sent people packing from oja ago in ilorin, but also provide them with another site where they will reside not paying more than thay pay in their previous location, tht is to show honesty.

he sent corner shops packing from general hopital enviroments,and after building shops, he gave shops to the same people who reside there before giving them one year upfront, so anyone who could not pay after one year will vacate the enviroment, which is cool, not like fashola

check out the aviation school he brought

check out th science village

check out the travel complex

before his tenure, the only company in ilorin is Global soap and detergent, but now more companys

what elso do u expect from a reasonable governor,

how do kwara state generate income yet he can achieve all these.

i bet if fashola spend eight year in lagos, still he cant match the achievement of bukky.

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I might well have ignored this post but haveing grown up in kwara and spent nearly 25 years in the state, i think this will make an intresting topic.

Comparing Fashola with Bukky(omo daddy) is like comparing the sun with a bulb, while the buld appears to provide illumination and its nearer, it is attificial and cannot stand the test of time. However the sun is natural and is a great source of positive energy.

most people do not know that what we hear of Bukky is mere propaganda, i have been to many parts of the state and there is little or no dvelopement in the rural areas of the state the hoyuses the majority of the population especiall the Igbomina areas of kwara. the only presence of govrnment in these areas are the luxury cars government buy for Royal father who can hardly drive them to thier home because of the state of thier roads.

Come 2011, If Fashola decides to run for any position be it senatorial or presidential it will make sence for anyone who has lived in Lagos in the past few years to vote for him, i have never been happy about my choice at the polls as i am presently. Ifeel part of the success.

Let the Saraki Dynasty explain how the ran Societie Grnerale aground including the account of my faculty association while i was in school.

Lets kick these Oligachies whenever we have the opportunity

I have spoken!

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For me saraki will surely win reasons are obvious i was in kwara state last month and

1) power supply in was fantastic

2) Agriculture: i was told that special crobs, seed where given to all interested. And they av being enjoying tremedious support from their govt.

3) the people of the state can easily visit their reps, chairmen or council without police intimidation

4) Roads: go there and see, little traffic jams, and masive road construction and beautification projects list go on

5) with little allocation, no tax imposement (the car radio tax, home radio tax, etc ) alot has being done.

Guys visit the state before you start judging this. I am almost sure that more than 50% of those that voted has not being to the state.

Moreover Fashola as not only try but has indeed performed well in office, but Island, ikeja and those industrail places  is not lagos, Lagos is where Lagosians lives. And at this places he has simply done nothing here. He was @ Ipaja last month  for the burial of late Mrs. KUMUYI the people can feel that he was ashame of the area. He came the following week and promise to dualize their road. Baruwa still drink petro water despite their promise. He has not performed like El Rufai of Abuja. Whats the noise about is it Brt or road this is our constitutional right.

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Well I disagree with your point as well, I can tell you that what Tinubu achieved in

Lagos state, no state in Nigeria including Abuja can still stand firm on her feet for those

number of years without federal allocation. The one month internally generated revenue in Lag(even

when paying taxes was not this tight) cannot be generated in some states in 3years.

The governor never had any thing to do with the bank, it was a political issue between his father and

your ex-president Atiku. Have you ever wondered how Societe General Bank won their suit against the

federal government? Have you even wondered how a man- a retiree who never even had a good car and

a house of his own became the no 2 man overnight in that state?

Forget it- Politics is deeper than what you read in the papers!

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To be honest I can not really say because I have not been to kwara, but I satay in Lagos and from what am seeing, I think Fashola deserves it keeping in mind that lagos is times 100 of kwara when it comes to problems, and it is controlled by an opposition party, and during the Ekiti election AC used Fashola to campaign, why did PDP not use Bukola, Secondly there is a group now on facebook "Fashola for President", and its members are Nigerians all over the world, so I think Fashola has more EFFECT. The Bukola fans should just go take a look at OSHODI

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To be honest I can not really say because I have not been to kwara, but I satay in Lagos and from what am seeing, I think Fashola deserves it keeping in mind that lagos is times 100 of kwara when it comes to problems, and it is controlled by an opposition party, and during the Ekiti election AC used Fashola to campaign, why did PDP not use Bukola, Secondly there is a group now on facebook "Fashola for President", and its members are NIgerians all over the world, so I think Fashola has more EFFECT

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I hear a lot of people saying this but i disagree with this statement.

When you caculate the amount Lagos states makes divided by the state's population you will notice that most states such as kwara actually make more per person or per head compared to Lagos state.

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BUKKY remain one of the best governor this country has ever produced and the best among PDP governors, i am from ilorin and i know what this town used to look like before he came to power he has completely transform this state to what any kwaran will be proud of, i always feel the urge of relocating back whenever i visits home. however comparing him with fashala is a different thing entirely fashala has done well in less than 4 years bukola is doing great in less than 8years, but take a look at this lagos state is far richer than kwara state so fashola has an upper hand when we want to compared achievements. but all the same both men are good and i will probably give it to saraki he is a blessing to kwarans.

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Bukola Saraki has achieved so much, of course Prof. Iwuruwuru will declare Bukky winner with over 80 million votes (more than registered voters in Nigeria). Bukky will even defeat Barack Obama in any election in Nigeria(absurd). The only match for Bukola Saraki presidential ambition is Lucky Igbinedion or maybe James Ibori his fellow co-travellers.

BUKOLA'S MANY ACHIEVEMENT

1. Running down a commercial bank.

2. Buying expensive choice properties in Foreign country with depositors funds.

3. Crashing his own Zimbabwe's Farmers program.

4. Buying expensive choice properties in Foreign country with state funds.

5. Rigging himself to power twice.

6. Spending state funds the PDP way. Just to mention but a few.

God save Nigeria. CRY THY BELOVED COUNTRY.

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CAN SOMEON PLEASE TELL BUKOLA (OMO DADDY) THAT KWARA STATE PAYS HIS BILL AND THOSE OF HIS HOUSEHOLD PLEASE!!! AND PROBABLY WAKE UP FROM LOCAL CHAMPION/AGBOOLE POLITICS!

The Chief Judge of Kwara State, Justice Raliat Elelu-Habeeb, has dragged the Kwara State Government to the Federal High Court in Ilorin, challenging the power of the state's House of Assembly and the state government to initiate disciplinary action against her.

In a suit filed by her lawyer, Chief Adegboyega Awomolo (SAN), the Kwara CJ said that only the National Judicial Council had the power to initiate disciplinary proceedings against her in respect of her duty as the CJ of the state.

The CJ had joined the NJC, the Attorney-General of the Federation, the state Assembly and the state AG as co-respondents to the suit.

She, therefore, asked for an order of injunction restraining the state House of Assembly and the Attorney-General of the state from relying on a letter inviting her to come and show why disciplinary action should not be taken against her by the state Assembly.

She also asked the court to restrain the state government from interfering with her job as the CJ of the state.

In an affidavit she deposed to, Elelu-Habeeb said that all the allegations contained in a letter written by Governor Bukola Saraki to the state Assembly related to the exercise of her duties and powers as a judicial officer.

She added that neither the House nor the governor had the power to inquire into such allegations.

The CJ further claimed that neither the governor nor the Assembly copied her with the letter which she alleged, was widely published in newspapers.

She said, "I know as a fact that unless the state Assembly and the Attorney-General of the state (3rd and 4th defendants) are restrained by an injunctive order, the leadership of the judiciary of Kwara State, being the third arm of government, will be adversely affected."

She argued that neither damages nor monetary compensation could adequately pay for physiological trauma, inconveniences that any adverse action or decision that the defendants might take as related the letter initiating disciplinary action against her.

Other reliefs being sought by the CJ include and a declaration that by the combined interpretation of sections 4,153,292 and paragraphs 20,21 of the third schedule to the 1999 Constitution, it was only the NJC that had the exclusive power and authority to inquire into any complaint against her.

The CJ also prayed the court to grant the following prayers.

A declaration that the letter of the state Assembly is in breach and violation of the 1999 Constitution in so far as it relates to the exercise of her functions as the CJ of the State.

An order setting aside the decision of the state Assembly and the state Attorney-General and any other steps taken thereon in so far as it relates to her office as the state's Chief Judge.

No date has been fixed for the case."

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More reason why Ex-governor Ibori a had to run to him FOR SHELTER when he was avoiding the fire of the then EFCC!!!

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saraki wont hesitate to shout fashola if ask this same question.

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Saraki would have come a little close to Fashola if he runs governance by leaving out sentiments and party affiliations. I am from Kwara State lived there for up to 15yrs on and off, now I relocated to Abuja but my folks r still there. Ilorin the capital does not make the whole of Kwara State. If you visit some Local Govts. in Kwara you'll wonder if there is government in that state at all.

Politics should be for the good of all not for the good of a few. Very few people know that Saraki first mission when he got in office was to tour media houses so that they always carry only the good news in his state. he did that and the media houses always do their bid after which they collect brown envelopes for PR.

Fashola on the other hand is very objective and takes the time to create a vision for a new Lagos and from what the world can see He is indeed serious. Even Al-jazeera a cable network did a documentary of him.

I also watch a program called Mega Vision on NTA. On One of the episodes Fashola was in The US to the a case study of How a mega city works, He was also in Egypt. As an Architect I appreciate this a lot.Mind you serious Case studies not just Site seeing or hype.

Comparing the two I'll say uhhhmmm! No basis

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Did you know that:

-After Obasanjo himself, Bukola was the second strongest supporter(installer) of Yar'adua presidency?

-He led the delegation to Katsina to convince Yar'Adua?

-He rallied other governors(Ibori,Odili, Attah etc) to leave the scene for Yar'adua?

-He is the most powerful Governor today?

-He is the most influential PDP politician/power broker today?

-Did you follow the last PDP convention? He decided who got what. Told this to step down for that. Kwara govt house in Abuja turned into 'decision' house.

-. . .and he's perhaps the most refined PDP politician in Nigeria today.

These may not be good politics, but definitely not baby politics. You may other word.

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how can u compare fashola and saraki?we know how they became governors in the first place.secondly,with what can anybody identify saraki?thirdly,saraki is not matured,nna a,na fashola go win.saraki plays baby politics.

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Fashola of cos. the guy is doing a wonderful job in lagos n will do even a beta job in Aso Rock.

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@ DISGUY I've followed the comments and it's a pity your's displayed a great deal of ignorance and shallowness, it's because of your types that Nigeria is static today.how can a person who lived to witness the performance of the last governance of states in the federation ask what Donald Duke achieved with cross river?

It is very important that in forums like this, people have clear understanding of what they want to contribute.

The principal reason why Nigeria is where it is today is cos of corruption.this man ruled and was never invited by the EFCC or had a single petition against him,the only governor in the 36states without a petition.

Look at cross river today and compare it with what it used to be.

He grew tourism and that's another source of income for the state.Everybody wants an experience of Xmas in Calabar. do you understand the amount of money that flows into the state and the pocket of his people at this time?

do you know how much ogbudu generates?one can't help but admire the Tinapa dream. mind you Tinapa is on right now just that it's in phases and the present governor is not giving it as much publicity.

Donald duke did not wait to receive allocation,he thought of generating more funds for the state.look at the roads, the neatness of the place,paid salaries when due everybody was and is happy with him, this is the kind of man we should seek for and we're debating that SARAKI a broad day light thief should be president.I just can't help but weep for us all,

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Between the two men, i will choose Fashola.I am an indigene of kwara state and i must say here that i respect Bukola Saraki,he is a very brilliant man but because of the way he emerged as the Governor (His father's influence), his politics is tribally oriented in kwara state unlike fashola in lagos where you have even non lagosians in his cabinet.Also when u compare the complexity of lagos state, you will know that a man who has effectively able to administer lagos state will be the most qualified to lead Nigeria.

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Due to the nature of my job, I have had reasons to visit different states in the last five years. I spent all my school days in Ilorin( Primary to University level), and my holidays throughout this period had always been in Lagos.

These two governors are probably going to come first and second in Nigeria based on acheivement.

If you have lived in Ilorin before the 80's through 90's, you will completely agree with me that the state capital had withnessed more infastrutural development, more than any other regime in recent times. Through Fashola, Lagos has been turned into one big construction site.

Lagos is smaller with more people and huge IGR(Internally generated revenue), Kwara has fewer people with way smaller IGR. But based on what these two has acheived it is a shame that anyone will bad mouth either, because compared to anyother governor in the fedration they are the best.

I have stayed in more than five states up north during this period and I practically tour the south western states monthly.

The system that produced Bukola may not be perfect, but he has shown he is more in tune in what needs to be done.

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Are you sure Bukola's people (PDP) will not make his tenure a hell like what they have just done to Ekiti state. It is better you have An AC Fashola and any other Governor from same AC or other party. PDP still retain that acronym Peoples Destructive Party.

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I will like to see a Fashola president and Bukky VP.

GOOD!

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How can u compare Fasholas' 2 years in office with Bukola's year?

I stay in osogbo and I go to both States, Fashola is farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better.

You can only compare Oyinlola and Fashola, there and then I will tell u Bukky is better

You meant to say Oyinlola and Bukola. That's my point bother. Two PDPs can be compared because they flock together

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How can u compare Fasholas' 2 years in office with Bukola's year?

I stay in osogbo and I go to both States, Fashola is farrrrrrrrrrrrrrr better.

You can only compare Oyinlola and Fashola, there and then I will tell u Bukky is better

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THe Aviation school,

The Science Village ,

The Brigde Contructions,

More Road Construction,

Travel Complex,

New Company in kwara,

if u claim all these ar not achievements, then wat is achievements?

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[quote author=dejiavo2 link=topic=254493.msg3829146#msg3829146 date=124160

Please try to re-visit my post. I did not insult anyone but I considered the comparism as an insult on Fashola besides bringing someone from that ill rotten party is embarrassing. Let's compare Fashola with good personalties.

You need not insult him , you could disagree and state your reasons but calling someone dat is not neccessary.

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This is getting more interesting . keep it coming guys

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Know all, you seem to me the most sensible, reasonable and logical person to have commented well. Who is bukola? what moral quotient has he got to rule Nigeria? his attainment of the position of governor was made possible by the dark forces of people who give credence to malfaesence. Nigerians deserve whatsoever bedlam it might be or be in. Our values, principles and ideologies are all strained by corruption. Once again, who is Bukola to be compared with Raji Fashola.

I think it is an insult to compare Gov Fashola of Lagos with any Governor in other state how much more the rotten governors from PDP. There is nothing good that can come out of that party. I'm not a member of any party. Just an observant, but I think Fashola should not be placed side by side with Saraki. There is no moral justification for such comparism.

You need not insult him , you could disagree and state your reasons but calling someone dat is not neccessary.

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I think it is an insult to compare Gov Fashola of Lagos with any Governor in other state how much more the rotten governors from PDP. There is nothing good that can come out of that party. I'm not a member of any party. Just an observant, but I think Fashola should not be placed side by side with Saraki. There is no moral justification for such comparism.

I'm not saying Saraki has not done anything but in as much he's from that occultic PDP he's good deeds will only tantamount to rubbish in the hearts of sound minds.

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