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How Corrupt Is The Efcc?

I have just had a personal experience which I want to share here, now.

I'm an IT proffesional. I used to work in the operations division of the Cross River State Watre Board Limited, employed by the private-partner operator of that agency called Ortech Nigeria limited as the Information Systems Administrator.  Way back in 2006, I realized that the pay I was getting was 200% lower than what was incidental to my office as contained in the contract papers between my organization (Ortech) and the Cross River State government.  I accosted my employers and requested for a commensurate review.   My investigations also showed that so many other shaddy deals were going on within the organization. 

Ortech is a 'so-called' foreign company but with very little physical presence in any location, except a one-room office space in VI, Lagos.  My curiosity lead to a lot more personal investigations which yielded tremendous surprises.   The organization got wind of my efforts to find things out and decided to dispense with my services.  I left, determined to fight on.  The matter was taken up by my lawyers.  Several negotiations were held in Calabar and the company offered to pay some 'chiken' change to me, to enable me get off their back.  I refused.  The dialogue ended in a deadlock, after some persons attempted to offer gratification to my attorneys.   We then proceeded to report the matter to the EFCC in September, 2007.  Surprisingly, the petition, the evidence and all the matters connected therewith vanished from the EFCC.   All efforts to locate this has proved abortive.  My investigations within the EFCC system revealed much to my surprise that some of the operatives in that organization are richer than oil-industry workers.  They have fleet of cars and live life in the fast lane.   I have run out of options.  I have proceeded to report the matter to the World Bank (the financiers of the Water Board Operations) but felt, I may get better suggestions from NLders.  What do u guys think?

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Afam,

Thanks dude.

I glad over the way people are not reacting to national issues and gone are the days where people accept things the way they are without questions.

Wake up Nigerians-Call a spade a spade.

Thanks to the internet,now we can sample the mind set of a typical Nigerian.

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Your signature say it all ''the minds game,blink,blink''.

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Again I ask, can you state the fraud you think your former employer has committed or is committing.

So, far the only thing that can be termed fraud is the claim that your signature was forged even though you avoided reaffirming that claim.

Paying any amount less than what is being invoiced in not fraud and it is important you get that clear.

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There are two parts to the story, if u read between d lines.  My lawyer handles my own personal affairs (and I cannot discuss it here on the forum because that would be subjudice).  Then, there is massive pilfering and siphoning of money using several fronts within the organization. This is perpetrated by the so-called private-partner (expartraite organization) in collusion with our own brothers and sisters.  Mind u, the water board is a public utility organization funded by govt through international loans.  This leg of the matter is a financial crime against the state, not me.  So, the agency of state that has d responsibility to investigate such crimes and prosecute offenders is the EFCC among others.  As a patriot and a stakeholder in the Nigerian project (at least, I pay N13000 income tax monthly), I guess I have a duty to expose and report any crime against the state wherever I see one, and the agency that gets such a report must act on it.  There lies my case.  Please make out time to read my posts on this thread so that you may be guided as I don't intend to keep repeating the story.    We all must be up in arms to fight this corrption battle.  There's a drop of RIBADU in every man/woman.

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I agree with wiseguy here. No matter what the final outcome will be for your case, I believe cases like this are important in a country like Nigeria.

Get all you can in evidence for your side, and make it public so people can know more of what may be going on behind closed doors and what the case is really about. I mean this fight against corruption is not only for the government to handle but individuals need to understand they have a responsibility in this and need to speak up when they see it or anything remotely similar happening and get the right agencies working to reveal the truth.

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Brothers,

If you a have case go to the Court.IT professional or a journalist cannot guarantee your rights or seek redress for you.

There is no need hiding behind your screen to fight injustice.Its so simple to go to court.

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I don't understand why some pple will not take few minutes to go thru posts before jabbering on their keyboard. This guy's post is simple, clear and understandable. Whether he is doing it because he was laid off is not the issue. That he is a supposedly disgruntled employee does not sweep the alleged case of fraud under the rug.

What is important is that he has facts to prove that fraud was committed, he did the right thing to report to the EFCC and EFCC, the last time i checked, has the mandate to investigate and prosecute all economic and financial crimes pepertrated against the state and not only the ones perpetrated by Atiku, Kalu and other politicians. Also, that the case file of the matter got missing in EFCC's custody is another serious issue and shows that there is an underhand manouvering that went on.

In this era of transparency and accountability, it is absurd that some pple will be championing the theory of "letting sleeping dogs lie". And tomorrow we all will assemble in nairaland to cast aspersions on our leaders. If we have nothing to advise the poster, we rather not post anything.

@celemel,

Like some other pple have said, assemble your facts and pursue this issue to a logical conclusion.

You need to give out the information you have. I am an IT professional like you and I believe you know your onions and so i do not need to tell you the way to go.

The media is your greatest weapon. There are so many journalists looking for hot stories that will get them their desired promotion. Infact, journalists will take the fight from you and do a thorough investigation than you've done and if it's a good case, believe me they will blow it to high heavens.

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I guess most persons didnt take time to read through my first 2 posts on the thread, else they would understand the point. I never wanted EFCC to fight for me; if I did, I'd have accepted the attempts of the organization to offer me bribe and walk away after all, I had nothing to lose. My point is, a petition was sent to EFCC to probe the activities of an organization. An operative was detailed to come, he then was induced with money to stall the investigation, and the matter died. Thats simple. The EFCC has been compromised from within. It needs cleansing, Simple!

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Celmel

There are some points in your statement that deserves betterclarification. First you said you hired a lawyer to advocate for you, what is the lawyer doing when things are not working as it should. This protest you are mounting should have been done by your lawyer in the court of law. There is one thing that I noticed in this new dispensation, the judiciary has proved to be at the fore front of championing the cause of the downtroden. What was your lawyer doing that he did not institute a civil suit. If you have a good case, the court should have been the appropriate theater to play out the whole script for the whole world to see.

You cannot mix your personal grudge against your employer with your assumed corruption or illegalit(ies) going on in your office. Employee/employer dispute is better handled by industrial arbitration panel or the law court. EFCC to the best of my knowledge is not the appropriate office to handle your case. I rest my case.

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I am proud to be a Nigeria,but i refused to be misled by the usual Naija gimmicks.

Celemel,i am actually disappointed that you where waiting for EFCC to fight for you to get a better Salary or settle your employment dispute.You earlier mentioned the efforts of your attorney on the issue.But common sense should have told you,that,if you where actually having a case.Nothing stops your lawyers from going to court.

You decided to petitioned the EFCC because your employer did not include in the money sharing click.

If you ever have the opportunity to stay outside of Nigeria,that is when you will appreciate the work of EFCC.

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celemel,

I agree with your point that this forum should not be an avenue to disrespect anyone simply because we hold different views. I did not write what I wrote because I want to disrespect you or your views. Even at home I have different views with my wife regarding many things. She supports Man U while I support Arsenal so respecting people view is a way of life and I buy to that with all my heart. I did not agree though that when we have issues in our private live either with our employer as in your case to raise a thread to say derogatory things about people that are serving us simply because they did not buy into our own ideas. I apologise if you feel offended but I stand by my point that its not the responsibility of Ribadu to be investigatings issues like yours.

I see the point you are making about all the petitions to EFCC. Personally, I do not have a regard for anyone, be it IBB, OBJ, Ribadu or whosoever that have no integrity particularly as it affects the masses of Nigeria. Ribadu as far I know is a worthy and a Police Officer with high degree of integrity. He has done his best for Nigeria and we can all see the evidence. People living in Nigeria may not appreciate what this guy has done but by priviledge I live outside Nigeria and I know what the fight against corruption championed by Ribadu has done. Every body will not agree with me and I respect their opinions.

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All of the ''whats'' I've ever wanted to compose against the EFCC. Great work, Celemel.

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@Linuxuser,

I hate to talk personally. Inasmuch as we all have the right to ventilate our views on a forum such as this, I find it completely irresponsible that you could use such vitriolic oozes of venom to attack my person simply because we hold different opinions about the same subject - corruption. It amounts to descending to intellectual gutter if I should respond by calling you names too. If you have a contrary opinion to mine, bring it up and lets look at the merit or otherwise of your point. I shall not in anyway be dragged into any unnecessary empty arguements here on the matter of EFCC and the Nigerian nation. We all have a stake in Nigeria. No man has the benefit of dictating what viewpoint I should hold or what I shouldn't talk about. I pose the following salient questions to you.

1. What happened to the petition sent by Orji Ozor Kalu (a corrupt politician) to the EFCC over the N200million naira he personally handed to OBJ for the PDP campaign in 1999?

2. What has been the reaction of the EFCC to the multi-billion Naira Presidential Library fraud perpetrated by OBJ during his time in office?

3. What is the outcome of EFCC's investigations into the Bells university scandal with respect to OBJ?

4. Where did Nuhu Ribadu raise the money he used in acquiring the properties he has in Abuja?

5. What happened to the PTDF investigation? Who was indicted? Who was given a clean bill of health?

6. What happened in the petroleum ministry under OBJ?

7. What happened to the Olabode George embezzlement investigation?

8. Where is the petition in respect of the Cross River State Water Board Limited?

9. What happened to the Andy Uba money-for-farm-tools saga?

10. What happened to the investigation into the third-term money-for-votes saga?

There are many questions begging for answers. Institutions are not built around individuals lest, they collapse. EFCC is made of many staff who toil day and night to prosecute the anti-corrption war, and many others who labour to make plenty of money from the war. We cannot equate EFCC with NUHU RIBADU and vice cersa. Ok?

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celemel,

You are nothing but a disgruntled element that does not know your right from your left. If everybody that have problems with their employers/contracts will be assiststed by efcc, then they will spent the rest of their lives investigating cases like yours. I suspect you are one of the sponsored idiots trying to use this forum to get attention and discredit EFCC/Ribadu. What a shame on you, your sponsors and your colaborators. Please keep quite and talk about meaningful things that will Nigeria better.

I am definitely sure that if just for illustration they put you to do Ribadu's job for a minute, you will tuen ou to be a millionaire within the twingle of an eye. Your comments displays indiscipline and corruption all over you. In your life time you will never be able to achieve what Ribadu achieved so far at EFCC. I have met Senior Police Officers who worked with Ribadu and all of them, I mean all of them confirmed that Ribadu is such an exceptional Officer. Can the people in your own village attest to your integrity? Can your wife if you are married vouch for your integrity? Can your best friend attest to your integrity? Can your Church/Mousque people attest to your integrity? Can your employer attest to your integrity? I doubt it. I work as a contractor and also employ contractor so i know what it is to either work for people or to employ people. I am sure the contract job you got was never on merit p[erhaps you were introduced by a god-father. Is that life? is that honesty? is that not corruption?

Please allow us to rest.

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@ celemel

i think you should self employ yourself and get on with your life; your story is not very convincing.

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@CoolKaboom,

thanks for your words of encouragement.  I am waitng for the festivities of xmas and new year to end.  I'll never relent on this course until all persons connected, are brought to book.  Its been several months already, but justice is sweet when served cold.  I guess, with the reorganization going on in the EFCC, the matter would soon be ressurected.

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u r truly a courageous fellow.soldier on and follow the matter to its logical conclusion.u hav huge balls and should be applauded 4 what u r doing.never allow the negative posts here to deter.

but i  think d focus of d query has shifted from d real culprits.by focusing on efcc, ur former employers r seemingly off d hook.we all know that they r not all saints in efcc but why stop there.we still have the senate and house of assembly.why not drag d matter to d court of public opinion, the very vibrant press.this cannot be allowed to continue.knowing what u now do,that my friend would be the biggest crime.

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u r truly a courageous fellow.soldier on and follow the matter to its logical conclusion.u hav huge balls and should be applauded 4 what u r doing.never allow the negative posts here to deter.

but i think d focus of d query has shifted from d real culprits.by focusing on efcc, ur former employers r seemingly off d hook.we all know that they r not all saints in efcc but why stop there.we still have the senate and house of assembly.why not drag d matter to d court of public opinion, the very vibrant press.this cannot be allowed to continue.knowing what u now do,that my friend would be the biggest crime.

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@Viga,

So, we can safely say that you don't quite agree that the EFCC is corrupt. But there is the possibility that there might be some corrupt people in there, perpetrating corrupt practices.

Now, if a system created to fight corruption and corrupt practices in the country cannot fish out corrupt people in its rank and file, how do you think that system will be effective enough to fight corruption in a country like ours? Why should anyone believe in the efficacy of their investigations and actions?

This celemel guy case is just one out of several other cases out there that we don't even hear of. Maybe because it's not the ''high'' profile case that will catch gullible peoples attention. . . . .you know, the type that Sahara reporters don't publish. That maybe why.

As for me, I don't believe in the EFCC and their investigations. And I think the organisation is a ''political machine'' - set up to persecute/punish baba OBJ's ''enemies'' even in this current political dispensation - take it or drop it.

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To the Poster,

I have few observations.

1. Not everybody in the EFCC will do what they are suppossed to do and therefore like Judas among the 12 disciples of Jesus christ, there would be Judas Iscariot among EFCC.

me, personally no matter what anybody says that EFCC is a generally good organisation with majority good people obviosly there will be some few exceptional bad people.

I will suggest you write to RIBADU and complain of people who are going to soil the good names of EFCC especially case of missing files which may be indications of dodgy operatives. And tell him RIBADU that you will copy all the Newsmedia if he did not get to the root of the matter.

TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

Even this start as a employer-employee relationship, it actually shows the gradual molest and defrauding of the nation so it has public interest element to it so it is not just that about the guy pay or lack of it. The company is simply a Fraud vehicle to defraud both the water board, Nigeria govt and the world bank and say about we Africans we can run anything without massive fraud.

TO KOBOJUNKIE AND AFAM

I agree fully with Kobojunkie, NEPA and Power in Nigeria is so simple that a 10 year old can fix it. The reason we are having problem is that there are well established interest group who are sabotaging what will benefit the majority of Nigerians. One of them, the cabals was recoginsed by Yar Adua- read PUNCH of 9th December 2007. and in my research there are many more including politicians themselves.

Only a dum person will say Power problem is so complicated rather than the people who doesn't want it to work. Look at it from this way, You get your generator and put petrol, does it work or not. That is how simple electricity generation is.

Every Fraud on Nigeria affects the quality of our lives so we should start mind transformation within and not compromise or say that it is how it work in Nigeria, and that we can do nothing about it.

At minimum we should continue to condem evil doers and report to as many people as possible. Take for example there will be internal investigators at EFCC (like CID within CID) so that bad eggs among them can be floush out.

FINALLY ON THE QUESTION WHETHER EFCC IS CORRUPT I DON'T AGREE WITH THE POSTER, THERE ARE IS VERY LIMITED EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT THEY ARE CORRUPT BUT WE SHOULD KEEP OUR EYES OPEN SO THAT THEY DON'T BECOME CORRUPT. THERE ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE FEW BAD EGGS.

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@poster

you seem to forget that this is Nigeria as much as we might try to make positive changes.

I for one do no believe EFCC operatives and executives to be angels.

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@celemel,

Thanks for your post.

Did your employee forge your signature? If true then you have something against them.

I am with you on the Enron and Siemens stuff but you must make a case that is clear cut otherwise everything you say will be seen as someone who wants to get back at a former employer and then sentiments will mess up what you believe you have against them.

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Afam,

If my findings and allegations dont fly after investigation, then goodluck to them. I've made my case. Its up to the agencies of the state to investigate. If am a disgruntled former employee, so what? If your employer forges your signature to obtain money behind you, is that ok? If an organization double-invoices the state, and does not pay tax, is that ok? I dont need to repeat these. If an agency bribes state officials to corner contracts, and bribes government agencies to hide the dark side, is it ok? If an agency, set up by the state to enforce law and order compromises its credibility and actually obstructs the cause for which it was set up, is it ok?

I made an allegation. It is up to the agency responsible for investigating such matters to do their own part. THAT IS HOW CIVILIZED societies are run. Enron went down due to some misdeamenour of its management. Siemens is under global scrutiny now for similar reasons. If the EFCC (or some of its operatives) cannot do their work, we have a duty to force them to so do. After all, am a tax-payer and I guess, you are too.

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@celemel,

In one simple sentence please state your case against your former employer.

That way it will be easy to talk about.

For now, your case will easily be dismissed as a case being brought forward by a disgruntled employee (disengaged). This may seem harsh but my dear this is the reality.

If you have the details of what constitutes fraud, fine but again it must be fraud before it can be established as fraud.

Giving an invoice for the your salary (by your employer) that is higher than what you are paid does not constitute fraud, just get this fact straight.

The issue of white men and higher pay is one that you cannot do anything about because those that put these schemes in place have a way of helping their own people.

Next time when you hear that Nigeria don't need aid from any of these foreign bodies or nations you will pay attention because close to 40% in some cases of the money earmarked for any project goes back to the so called aid givers in administering the project.

If you think you have a strong case, good luck but what you have put down thus far will not fly any day.

Take care and good luck.

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I am going to guess that you do not live in Nigeria full time, huh?? I mean you actually KNOWING that there is a prevalent mindset in Nigeria such as the one you pointed out there?? Do you live in Nigeria or are you just kidding us here??

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I guess I respect everybody's opinion in this forum, even when I may not agree with a lot of them. Some guys have refused bluntly to understand the reason for my 'fight'. I have pointed it out severally that this matter has nothing to do with my person. I lead a modest comfortable live. No doubt about that. Any guy in IT who knows his onions would tell you that there is plenty to look out for, in the field out there, especially in Nigeria. No doubts!

But, I feel we cannot continue to keep silent and allow a few gluttons feed fat on our common patrimony. We must each do the little we can individually, to cause a change. It is my conviction (and I may be wrong in the eyes of many others, no apologies) that the entire system that sustains the contraption called PPP in the organization in question is designed solely to make a few 'white' men and their Nigerian collaborators, milk us dry and take a walk, while generation unborn bear the consequence of the greed. And, since I have access to the sordid details of this pot-of-mess, I came here to seek for advices on how best to call them to order or worse of all, curtail them.

It however seems that we Nigerians have found comfort-zone in swallowing these bitter pills and coloring any dissent, bad just because we cannot 'rock the boat'. Question: For how long shall we wallow in that mindset? The update I have however is that I have caused the financiers of the project (the World Bank) to start looking into the books hoping that they would not also be compromised.

We all must rise to defend this nation, not through armchair criticism but through concrete physical actions. We have no other country than this that we can call our own. Point!

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since corruption is what is mainly killing most african countries i think efcc you be an african organization. i mean it should be something like UN just for the african countries to oversee all government activities and boycot corruption from every level.

since the control of this efcc will be centralized, i think this organization will function better this way and many african countries will also benefit.

corruption is giving birth to babies every single day in africa.

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I have not assumed, i have only based my comments on the information provided,which of my comments are not factuals?, i would like to clarify

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I believe you wont be making so much noise if they had offered you enough money to live on the fast lane

It is common practice to be paid far lower than the client is paying your employers for your services, my oyinbo friends works for one of the big consultancy company here in the UK and his salary is about £80,000 per annum but the client pays £2018 per day for his services, i would leave you to do the sums yourself. So no criime has been committed if they pay you N110k for every N800k they receive,afterall you agreed to the contract.

In all things confidentiality is important,you might succeed in taking them to court but no employer wants a disloyal staff.

The importance of the certificate is determined by the employer,it wasnt until about 4 years ago that it became compulsory for all central govt finance directors to be chartered accountants and and i know a lot of them with over 25 yrs experience who are not chartered and they are very good.

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What is the guy even looking for? Compensation or what?

Did the company fail to pay him the agreed wages?

If yes, he has a case.

If no, he does not have one.

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One thing that surprises me is how an average Nigerian thinks. I'm sorry for those who advise you to go take some peanus and walk away.

@poster

YOu have made a good point and your second post explains more but you have failed to point out if your fight is to be generously compensated or just to paint the company black and bring it's dubious activities to light.

Secondly, i suggest u find a different title to this thread than diverting most nlder's attention from the real problem on ground to the corrupt practices in EFCC.

Be that as it may, i encourage you to go for it dude, with God on your side, victory is sure!

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I have to disagree with you here when you say that the problem with NEPA is not systemic. I happen to agree that the solution to the problem is quite simple. Problem with the system is it likes to put out a picture of bogus complications and complexities which are just excuses to continue as is instead of moving forward to fix things as they should be. That, I believe is the biggest of Nigeria's problems. We would rather ride the horse of pride claiming and proclaiming the problem we have is so complicated that actually addressing it is not even a way to solving it. When we get off that horse and look at things as they REALLY are, we will discover that the solution has been right there with us all this time.

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They have done a wonderful job. Prosecuting "corrupt" political office holders is not the only thing the EFCC does.

Viva EFCC!

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What job have they done apart from being entangled in a political war.As we can all see,they are the main weapon for bigger D**KS.

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I have a personal experience with EFCC. My conclusion about them is that they do their work diligently without compromise at first. They investigate and know exact true. No guess work. They always tried to avoid court if the case is between two parties with no crime intent like in my case. At no time bribe was mentioned but there was a[i]ppreciation [/i] though at the end.

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This guy has a valid grouse with his company,let him pursue it.He has done some other investigations and reported the case to the right authorities,it is up to them to pursue the case and if they don't then the petitioner has a right to ask "why not?"

The EFCC is as corrupt as any organisation in Nigeria.But they are by far better than the police.They are at least catching some corrupt people.Let's pray they get better.

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Thats a satisfied expartriate labourer for life. Good for you and I wish you luck!

But you all get everything muddled up

One, you do not seem to understand what an engineer does

There is a difference between an artisan and an engineer

An engineer does the same thing all over the world

There are damn good engineers in Nigeria who are employable

anywhere in the world

Secondly solving NEPA problems goes beyond "your newly discovered solutions"

NEPA problem is more systemic than any other thing else

And lastly you need education to do whatever you do, anywhere in the world, unless you want to remain a yessir man all your life!

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"""""How on earth would one white man (stylishly called expertraite) with a maximum qualification of Primary School Certificate and Certificate in Welding obtained after 2 weeks of training in a UK auto-shop be employed to work in Nigeria as Manager and be paid the USD equivalent of N4 million a month, is paid exactly the same, lives in a free house, is entitled to 4 flights back and forth any part of the world per annum (he actually gets this) while the qualified Nigerian Engineer on an invoiced salary of N800,000 per month, takes home N110,000 physically?"""""

My brother who made this statement,  One funny thing I discovered over here, is that Oyigbo no dey look at certificate,  IF you like you get PHD,  If one high school or what they call secondary school grad have more experience in that company,  they pay him more than you,  If they want to employ you,  they only ask you what do you know,  they are more interest what you can offer their company and how relevant you experince is to their business,  If you do not have it,  They would  not employ you,  they would employ that man that did not go to school but have that experience,    So for Oyiboland,  degree no mean poo,  it is the skill you bring on the table that matter,  Most Nigerian over here pocket their PHD for their house,  The more the degree the less you get a job and end up a Taxi driver,  except if you become a university prof or university that would  take you. if you don't,  Taxi driver you would become. Too many people too in the university system. you have Phd holder teaching secondary school over here,   Look take for example NEPA,  I have to be honest with you,  Nigeria based Engineers can not fix the problem, if they could have they would have done so a long time ago,   Since me I get here , my brother na,  i have learnt alot,  that i would never know in my life time in Nigeria,  Nigeria engineer most of the times do not have the skills that even people lower than them have,  No company want you,  when you have nothing to offer them ,,  than calculus and laplace thoery,  What good is it in the real world.

Come if Nigeria company pay oyigbo 4 million,, I dey here, me too be oyigbo now,  if they can pay me, with trip 4 times,  I dey here,  I even get the degree with certificate and skill. i know how to fix nepa, na calculation dem go take fix nepa, only those abroad knows it, oyibo man no teach us everything finish.

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@celemel,

First, you pushed for increased package and it failed.

Now, you are making it sound as if the fight is for what you call fraud in the company.

Now, what would you have done if they increased your package the first time you asked?

Would you still be pushing what you are pushing now?

What a company charges on your head is certainly not what you will get.

It is only when your employer promises to pay you NXXX.00 and yet every month you don't get up to that amount that you will have a case.

On merit your case is at best selfish.

Good luck anyway.

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an organisation that has no watchdog is bound to be corrupt, knowingly or unknowingly. You embezzle public funds, its confirmed then you will negotiate how much you refund, why are armed robbers killed when caught or found guilty? they should have the same priveledges.

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You should seek proper professional advise. Then your greatest weapon is comming out public with every fact you have that can dent them before the dent you; write to every media house, your story is bound to attract a lots of sentiments and with the level of awareness now in Nigeria, you are bound to have a lot of people behind you.

The bottom line is: make sure you have a case, and don't let your grudge becloud your reasoning. Give your case a direction.

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Celemel.

I feel you and your pain. The thing is that they are not the only ones reaping the system off. The so called expat must have been advised by some people that that is how the system works. Making such information public tend to discourage the perpetrator even if the government or the system is messed up. There are ways to go public and Nairaland is a step in the right direction, we shall overcome.

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I am not here to scare you my brov, but this is truly risky business, they've got loads of money to fight, settle and even hire arsenals. If this was a country were people get justice for injustice, I would have asked you to forge ahead eyes closed, but it is known that even with everyone been aware that baba was a loader himself, non of such is in the records of our very hardworking EFCC, this is not the first time files get missing, even the law court have full records of people like Ibori mixed-up.

My brother if you can find the likes of Falana, Festus Keyamo and the likes and only if they are willing to sincerely do justice to your plight (mission - make things right) then go ahead, if not, please don't waste your time and hard earn money on what you know will not work if you don't have the right resources and support from the right quarters, all this philanthropic lawyers also have a way of making there monies, so its not all about saint pursuing the devil but God having a way of scattering the joint forces of the so called assumed "powerful" ---- (Baba and Atiku)

God's speed.

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Please, it is my prayer that the letters[b] EFCC [/b] never appear anywhere on Nairaland in the new year to come.  Please relegate the non-entity to the annals of nonsensical history where it should belong.  It has no relevance in any productive discussions now or in the future!

Thank you!

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Maybe, I need to shed more light on this. 

There is existing a public-private partnership aggreement to manage jointly, the Operations Division of the Water Board by my former employers and the Water Board.  The private partner (Ortech) provides KEY critical staff in the partnership who are paid from the commonwealth.  Then, members of the partnership (Ortech and Waterboard) would share the profit accrueing from the sales of water at an aggreed percentage, after deduction of cost of business.  All cost incurred in the course of executing the partnership are submitted at the end of the month by the two partners to the Partnership Committee for vetting and reimbursement from the commonwealth. Now does one partner have the right to submit and claim stuff like air fares, hotel accomodation, staff development and training, medical, etc when no such facilities are enjoyed by any staff, and they actually get paid?

How on earth would one white man (stylishly called expertraite) with a maximum qualification of Primary School Certificate and Certificate in Welding obtained after 2 weeks of training in a UK auto-shop be employed to work in Nigeria as Manager and be paid the USD equivalent of N4 million a month, is paid exactly the same, lives in a free house, is entitled to 4 flights back and forth any part of the world per annum (he actually gets this) while the qualified Nigerian Engineer on an invoiced salary of N800,000 per month, takes home N110,000 physically?

What, if a National Diploma Certificate holder is employed to occupy the slot of a graduate engineer, is made to work and function in that capacity, is paid salary as a Diploma technician while the invoice reads ENGINEER with with 20 times the value he is paid?

What if your company supplies Pentium II used computers to the organization in your state in place of NEW Pentium 4 systems, issues invoices to the partnership as if they were new, and gets paid amounts that are completely far from the possible cost of such systems?  And the systems are never used for a day because they were not good in the first place? What if you discover that invoices are forged, staff signatures are forged with the intention to drain money from the system and repatraite same abroad?

What if your organization that is directly working with a state government agency deducts tax from staff salaries but does not pay same to the government? They had to go settle a backlog of one years' arears in one day, after this writer had started taking them to task and demanding for his tax particulars? What if the expertraites do not pay any form of tax to the government even as they repartraite huge monies in hard currency back to their home-country? What if a fictitious hotel accomodation is invoiced monthly in respect of each expartraite staff who also has N1 million accomodation lump sum invoiced in his name?

Everyone,

The reason for making the 'disgruntled' noises is not for the heck of it.  The invoices that are sent by these guys are added to an already huge internal debt owed by the state govt to them. Now, the project itself is funded by a World Bank loan facility.  Loans are loans, and must be repaid no matter how long it takes.  And, if international development partners give loan to Africa, and their brothers come back here, siphon the money and walk away, how and who will repay the loan?  These are issues that prick my conscience.  As I said in the initial post, am an IT person, meaning that it was very easy to get on with my life.  But, all the parties involved in the fraud sorrounding that project are in my opinion, culpable.  I started the fight from within before I was laid off.  I shall continue the little struggle.  I am only looking for alternative ways and ideas from NLanders.

On the EFCC:

The matter was reported. An operative actually visited to make initial contacts. He was convinced that there is massive fraud within the system.  An agent (Senior Advocate of Nigeria) was appointed by the accused 'stakeholders'  to liaise with him and find the best way to 'settle' the matter.  They met in Calabar twice. Met in Abuja many times too.  The matter had a life of its own. We were following. Suddenly, a lull set in. The files vanished. The agent was not picking calls again. Stalemate!

Who has a clue?

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SPEAK OUT. Continue to SPEAK for all to hear you LOUD AND CLEAR. Better Still. make sure the Media gets a hold of your story. Provide them with documents to support your side of the story. Post those documents online and challenge those whom you can to do something or risk being labeled criminals and cohorts.

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You can not say people are corrupt because you see them driving very expensive cars. Our problems is that Nigerian government don't pay our forces the right dues that is why we see been rich as been corrupt.

If the Nigerian Police and other forces are been paid the exact amount they deserve you won't be seeing them begging for money by the road side.

Those guys  you saw are paid good money that is why you see them leaving large. And the scope is working because they have what they want and it will be dificult to convince them by bribery.

If you want to solve the problem you don't have to put somebody who is not part of it @ fault.

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I actually think that if you believe you have a case, you need to pursue it to the end. I have never really put my faith in the EFCC from the start cause I can not for the life of me figure out why the group has yet to level charges against people like Obasanjo and the many people who continually roam the streets of Nigeria with our money dropping from every orifice. I do believe that if you can, you may actually open the door for other people who find themselves in the same situation as you do. I do not completely understand your case but I do believe that any move to make sure the books are in good condition is not a waste at all. If you can afford to push this far, please do. There are many people out there in Nigeria who are being short changed by the very employers who promised them a good package to get them through the door. The Employee-Employer relationship in Nigeria is one place that needs government intervention of some sort to encure that companies, as they make their millions consider the lives and welfare of their employers and I say go for it dude.

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This is Nigeria bro where almost everything is possible.if you dont take your time,you might end up not getting a dime.if its not too late,you better go for their offer and back off for good.Also,i hope this people are not deadly cos if they are,they might even harm you.Be wise Nothing is too small

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