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If Obj Stays: Who's Fault ?

The alleged 3rd term plot thickens by the day coupled with the fact that the middlebelt congress want presidency in 2007 as well.[/b]If at all he stays( I pray not) : [b]WHO ARE WE GOING TO BLAME?

1) Is it Olusegun Obasanjo? or

2) The Lawmakers or

3) Pro-Democracy groups or

4) Nigerian press or

5) PDP or

6) Weak Opposition that we call political parties or

7 You and I.

I beg WHO?

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WHO ELSE?

THE PPL DAT VOTED FOR HIM. WHICH ONE IS ME AND U? ABEG I NO FOLLOW

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If Obj stays, it is his fault.

Nobody can tell to dip your hand into a burning fire and u do so willingly.

The mistake Obj is making is his shortsightness, the good and bad man has done live long after them. Babagida and Abacha tried it but they failed.

I am sure Nigerians will definitely outlive him.

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He cant even stay,he his not the beast man around and can never be the Messiah.If he dies today are u saying Nigeria will crumble--No Nigeria is bigger than anybody so he should go after ofr before his tenure(Full Stop)

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Forgive me, but I've lost the trend of this conversation, and even reading it over and over hasn't helped...

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If Panapana (sorry, Obasanjo) stays a day longer in power, I mean from today, it is Nigerians fault. We are populated with people like Akolawole and yes, we have selfish interests to protect. No wonder some of you are dare to refer Obasanjo's waste of time and international goodwill since 1999 as an achievement. Tell me, what positive thing is Obasanjo-ic about this presidency ? The fact that he is still there today is an indication of our collective failure.

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@Chaxta. 

Do i need to check out about your Sister? i dont do that sir?

As a properly brought-up child i gave your Sister a due respect but..........

Like i said earlier on, i am an Awoist and if you know politics very well, you should know Fani-Power( Femi's Dad) in the first republic. I dont like the Man, but i like Femi in the ways  he  markets his Boss.

Likewise in the second republic, i do not like Oyi-Oyi i.e Late Chief Chuba Okadigbo, an NPP man who was working as a political Adviser to President Sheu shagari, where he constantly rubbishes Chief Awolowo's programmes. Similarly i do not like M.K.O Abiola when he formed Concord Newspaper to counter Awolowo's Nigerian tribune ans uses his concord to disseminate lies against late sage.

That does not necessarily means they are bad people, later on in life i admire them in some other ways most expecially Okadigbo.

Somebody even says "OBJ is the most corrupt man in the world"

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Akolawole,

Do not get bothered about people calling you OBj's boy. This is Nigeria for you, you either join the bandwagon or they label you one thing or the other.

OBJ is neither a saint nor a devil. OBJ has done some terrible things as well as some good things.

If we must judge a man we should do so objectively and in a fair manner.

IF the NA reserves the sole right to amend the constitution, the blame should fall squarely on their shoulders if the constitution is amended to allow for a third term whether the decision is popular or not.

We keep playing the blame game instead of properly pin pointing a problem and making attempts to solve it.

Too much focus on OBJ invariably projects him into the demi god people are accusing him of trying to project.

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Kola don't get personal in here. So what if you don't like his daddy?

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@Pluto04

Did i need the job of a Presidential spokesman ?

NO SIR!

While i like Femi Fanikayode, i dont like his Dad (the legendary Fani-power of Ile-ife), femi manages his boss well.

"Who told you he needs 3rd time anyway? ", Speculation upon speculation, Lies upon Lies, even somebody said on this forum that her Sister once works in Aso Rock and sees them carrying trucks of money in and out. 

Methinks, There are so many ways of stealing/looting than carry physical cash in and out of the Villa. haba!

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Akolawole seems to be doing a better job than Femi Fani-Kayode. I hereby nominate him for the post of presidential spokesman come June 2007.

True OBJ has achieved. Is that why he needs a third term? Has he achieved more than what Mandela did(putting down a viable economic, social and political structure) in a single term? OBJ simply did his job in the last seven years. He should not rubbish everything he has done by manipulating the polity and staying beyond 2007.

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Akolawole don't mind them; I feel you jare. Only the living can enjoy freedom. Violent people simply cannot create peaceful governments.

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I wonder why you guys have labelled me OBJ's boy.

Until 1999, I HATE OBJ TO THE CORE. why?

1) I am a commited AWOIST, because he hates Awolowo, I hate him as well.

2) We all know what he said in Zimbabwe at the peak of actualisation of June 12 election. He says of Abiola : "He is NOT the messiah Nigeria needed". I am not an Abiola man but i like and respect June 12 election, because MKO is the custodian of that election, i have to like him.

I look at OBJ between 1999 and now and i don't think he's that bad as some people had painted him.

We have to be frank and be truthful about the whole thing.

He is not a saint but he is no devil.

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Obasanjo would ba at fault if he stays. Yes, he would.

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@Alheri

I am in no way related to OBJ, IN FACT, i visited Ogun state for the first time last april for a birthday party.

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Deal doesn't fly. Wanna know my reasons?

You will drop the placard as soon as you sight the first policeman...

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Akolawole, the last time I checked the Orange Revolution didn't involve violence. Let us face it, the problems of our country can be sumarised in 3 words: cowardice, selfishness and greed.

Cowardice: No one is willing to bell the cat. The few people who have ever tried were "shouted down" by the rest of us. Case point: the last real strike against fuel price increases. One of the most disgusting things that I have ever seen in my life was when the same people for whom labour was ostensibly fighting for came on camera to ask that the strike stop because "we are suffering".

Selfishness: When ever a Nigerian gets to a position he doesn't think ad majorem populo buono, no, he thinks mea, mea, mea buono. We see it manifest all over the South especially. Imagine what would happen should Asari Dokubo become a governor tomorrow. He will abandon his "struggle". I guarantee that.

Greed: Need I expand on this one?

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If OBJ stays, it will be the fault of the law makers who amend the constitution to allow for it.

I agree with Akolowole, violence for it's sole sake does not beget anything but more violence. As such, it should be reserved as a last resort. What we can all do now is communicate by writing letters to our representatives in congress letting them know our will. We put them there to represent us, and if they do not do our will then we will austrasize them and put someone else in their places. We can actually recall them, if we feel they are betraying our trust.

But then again, if the majority of Nigerians feel that OBJ should remain in power then we deserve what we caveat. But the caveat is that what is good for the gander is good for the goose, so we can have an undesirable president at the helm for 3 terms too.

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Interesting topic.

OBJ does not have the powers to amend the constitution to allow for a 3rd term, only the law makers can do that.

So, if OBJ gets a 3rd term today and such clause is in the constitution, it makes sense to put the blame on the law makers because they have the right to make this 3rd term speculation die a natural death even today.

The followership still will take its own share of the blame because we are focusing on the wrong person/persons. OBJ should not be the focus, the focus should be on those that can make or mar the plan legitimately.

About OBJ making categorical statements on the 3rd term bid, he has denied having such plans on at least 2 ocassions, Remi has denied it, Fani has denied it, the PDP scribe has denied it.

Whether we believe them or not is another matter but the fact remains that OBJ and his aides have denied it, so I wonder what Nigerians want him to do again to prove that he will not go for a 3rd term.

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no one's fault. violence of any sort is not good. it is the poor man that suffers when there is a violent revolution that is why there is no more support for such actions. Even if sani abacha were to arise from the grave and come back into aso rock, it will be business as usual from my own end.

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@ Ijebuman and  Chxta

Please guys dont get me wrong, I AM NOT SAYING WE SHOULD BE LIKE "MUMU".

The method used in Ukraine may not work in Nigeria.

I hate Violence of all sorts, i have participated in few and the end product is harmfull.

Like i have commented in a particular thread in this forum, where i stated that my friend was gunned down during SAP riot.  On that fateful afternoon in ibadan in 1989, i was writing mathematics(GCE o level), University of Ibadan students came to mobilise us to join, i gladly joined, even though i was writing my best paper, only to know in the evening that one of my friend was killed.  DID  IBB EVENTUALLY DROP FALAE'S SAP ?

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR LIVES DURING JUNE 12 IMBROLIGIO ?

Did we eventually get abiola there ?

I am not saying we should fold our arms while some people messed up  today and our future. NO

We can Voice out our opposition through any means EXCEPT VIOLENCE.

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Is that so now? The people of Indonesia have more ethnic groups than we do in Nigeria, but if memory serves me correct, they stood together and kicked Suharto out of office back in 98.

For you to say that we fought stupidly during the June 12 crisis is in very bad taste. That was a noble cause, it was just unfortunate that the person we were fighting on his behalf turned out to be so unworthy.

Heaven helps those who help themselves, so stop reasoning like that.

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Does it matter? the bottomline is that a popular revolution resulted in change, thats the point been made. There's nothing special about Nigeria, or are we not part of the human race ?

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@Chxta

We will NOT do like people of Ukraine.

What is the population of Ukraine ?

How many languages do they have?

How many Tribes make up Ukraine ?

We are not going to fight like we stupidly did during June 12 wahala or during religious riots in in Kano, afterall it is GOD that makes leaders.

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What makes you think so?

Recent case point: when a "bad" government was being forced on the Ukrainian people what happened? They didn't just sit their arses at home and say "God dey". They came out and put a stop to all the rubbish.

We don't even have to go too far back in time to see an example of people power. Can you show me one such example here in our beloved Naija where the people pesevered and as a result got what they wanted? Even a case as stinking as the Alams scenario had a few idiots trying to give it an ethnic colouration. That is the problem with Naija. We have too many (selfish) interests.

Such a scenario as happened in Ukraine will not happen in Nigeria, as a result of that, we deserve whatever government we see...

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Such a statement is not very useful. Even if there are bad people in Nigeria who "deserve" the bad leaders, must the good people in Nigeria also suffer with them? So please such statements are not helpful.

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The people deserve the kind of government that they have!

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i guess mr bassey answered in a roundabout manner. what he is saying is that if obj choose to run for a third term, he'll blame him; olusegun obasanjo.

i'll blame him too. for he ought to be able to resist the temptation.

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@Bassey

Is this the question i asked?

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Dear President Obasanjo,

Well done this past year. You did well with our $18billion debt relief, and all the activities of EFCC. Keep up the good work.

My only advise to you is that you make a definitive statement that you will not be staying in office past 2007 as prescribed by the constitution you swore to uphold. Everybody in the world holds you in high regard because you handed over to a democratically elected government in 1979. This singular act earned you a place forever in history as the first Nigerian leader, and indeed one of the first in all of Africa to voluntarily cede power. For this alone you are put on the same pedestal as great leaders like Mandela and Julius Nyerere.

Please, I beg you, do not taint this laudable status that you enjoy by hearkening to the call of good-for-nothing sycophants who's intent for wanting you to sit tight is driven by selfish ends. Especially the call by those thieving low-life jerks in the state government houses who debase the honourable office of "governor" by their shameful and debauched acts. They want to perpetuate themselves in office so they can continue to enjoy the protection of that warped kink in our constitution - "immunity for governors".

OBJ, I trust you to do what is right. Great leaders, and your good friends like Jimmy Carter and Andrew Young will be disappointed in you if you sit tight. Besides, you will be put in the same category as rogue leaders like Mobutu and Abacha if you chose to sit tight. This will be a betrayal to many of us your ardent supporters.

Do the right thing. Make a definitive statement to put those mangy mongrels seeking your downfall to shame.

Your great fan,

Mr Bassey

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