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Is Fmr. Pres. Obasanjo Really Bad?

Tracing the political history of our great nation, filled with great people (Spirit of Rebranding), can we say Fmr. President Olusegun Obasamjo is really bad.

Let us analyse and reason logically and make submissions that can be pondered upon, giving his role since the traumatic regime of military dictatorship and now to the newly enthroned democracy.

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The question is "Is fmr Pres. Obasanjo really bad"

My answer is yes. No need comparing him wit any other leader simply put the man is a terrible,wicked, heartless,corrupt and foolish man.

For a man who came out frm prison to be offered d presidency, he had d oportunity to be our mandela,havin sacked all d political elements in d army cld hav gone ahead conduct a credible election in 2003 allow a candidate of d people emerge, then he leaves partisan politics and bcom a statesman whom every contestant will go to and receive blessings instead he wanted to perpetuate himself in power.

Corruption took a new dimension under his watch everyone was encouraged to be corupt as long as u don't go against him, all his failures is what we are reapin today, he failed to fix d refineries, the power sector was destroyed under his watch d prob of d nipp is d failure of due proces as FG u don't just go spending states monies wutout their approvals the niger delta was not as militant as it became after his tenure what hapened to d 285m dolls dat comunication companies paid to get their licences that was meant to tackle power nd infrastructural chalenges in d country because of his stubones students used 7yrs runnin 5yr prog under his watch.

Pls Obj shld neva b nominated or even considad as d best president ever in dis country because he is a tyrannical leader and witout compassion for his fellow brothers (Nigerians) and dis is a man who was sleepin wit his sons wife and saw nothin wrong wit dat oh my God som pple cld even think dat he is our best leader eva God forbid!!!

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How long did IBB sell oil for high prices? Gulf war was done in less than 6 months

War in middle east made sure Oil prices went high between 2001 and 2007 when OBJ was in Power especially when US attacked Iraq in 2003 and the friction before also with the issue with Iran and Chavez also MEND activity ensured that It stayed high

What more could he have done when the House defeated the plan after OBJ spent billions bribing people all over organising conventions in all geo Political zones to move the motion for constitution amendment.

Still no comment on the Genocide at Odi and Zaki Biam? Also No comment about the Politically motivated killings including that of the attorney General? Or how do you exonnerate OBJ

yar Adull has spent almost 3 yrs, can you compare the number of politically motivated Killings in OBJ first 3 years to Yar Adua in the same Nigeria. This kinda supports that OBJ was complicit in all of these

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We can also ask how are we sure Saddam ordered the killing of Kurds, or how are we sure Charles Taylor order the killing of his people, Or we can ask How are we sure Hitler ordered the killing of Jews or How are we sure Milosevic ordered the Killing of Bosnians.

Cant we?

Which of these positives outweigh Genocide at Odi and Zaki Biam?Political Killings and $16bn vamoosed into the thin air.

You said he paid debt, tell me any other president who sold oil at over $100 consistently for over 6 years.

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lets put sentiments aside, are we certain that OBJ deliberately ordered for a whole village to be leveled or is it just hearsay. Please enlighten me.  From what i understand he precisely ordered an army general that law and ordered should be restored in a place where hoodlums clashed with police and unfortunately  innocent lives were disposed.  Didn't we just witness the reenactment of the same script in Bauchi where police officers extra judiciously murdered folks, should we also blame OBJ for that as well or the trigger happy law enforcers within our society who fails to apply a brake in these situations.

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@dayo OBJ is the only military leader to hand over to a democratically elected govt, hell he's also the only civilian president to do same. Obj is being alleged to have looted massively but he paid off our debts, increased allocation to the ND, brought back a hitherto non existent middle class(before Obj if you were not rich that meant you were virtually in poverty), more ?

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^^Muritala Mohammed, Mohammadu Buhari, Tafawa Balewa

Though they were still useless but none committed genocide against his own country and NO Nigerian president has ever spent $16bn on a project without the grasses being cut. None of them had his attorney General killed without a solution

They told us in 2007 that the power projects would be completed soon Now 3 years after still nothing.

Abeggi OBJ is the worse worse than Abacha sef

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I have been begging for the same answer but shamefully nobody will provide an answer. They will rather base their argument on nothing.

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Ofcourse like other naija leaders he was bad, but the thing is name one leader better than him ?

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And his shortcomings include genocide at Odi and Zaki Biam, religious crisis like never before, fuel price increase like never before, corruption like never before.

$16b on Power projects hope we have the power now

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The question by the poster: Is Former President Obasanjo Really Bad? The word “really “ Confirms that Obasanjo is bad but to what degree, extent, he seeks to find a grade of how bad he was? His quest for answers to this question is borne out of the fact that he has been hearing or reading from generality of Nigerians and probably non Nigerians that Obasanjo wasted eight years of our nation existence.

What respondents need to do now is to help the poster answer the question without going off on a tangent. And without resorting to abuses and insults.

To the question I say YES he is really bad.

Why, because he, as earlier been compared with Hitler was ruthless with his own people as against Hitler‘s. His policies were nice on paper and you could actually see the growth indices but not in practical or physical appraisals, poverty was still alarming, the health, education, infrastructure, security, and power sectors went down drastically and corruption was rife am not comparing his government with any other because the poster’s question do not seek to put him side by side any past thieve.

He conducted a hoax election and imposed his choice on us, yes people would say he had a good foreign policy I agree, that’s why he single handedly sold Bakassi to Cameroun (he practiced that policy because he wanted to be UN Sec. General).

I can go on and on but these reasons above should suffice.

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Leaders must give account to the last KOBO in their jurisdictions,if not they will have to face the music for misappropriation and mismanagement of public funds,they are public servants,not masters,the owe the people the right to deliver otherwise,they are not good enough and shouldn't be there.

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I won't say he is really bad but he is shame to Nigerians. How many years did he spend in power and still could not do anything tangible for the country, he was totally disgraced last year on a Hard Talk (a BBC Programme).

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The nazis were far better than nigerian leaders in the sense that they were inventive,creative and devilishly idealistic but nigerian leaders like obasanjo are just evil and slow mass killers that are killing the people slowly and systematically without any sense of creativity and inventions like the nazis.But because the people are never use to any thing else,they just think it is normal and manageable to have evil leaders and some even applaud them instead of stoning them.

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well is either you dont read the news!

Mr Obasanjo is surely worse than Hilter!

Hitler did NOT kill his OWN people! He never killed GERMANS!

Mr Obasanjo wiped-out the entired village of ODI in 2000. He gave Nigeria Military the command to kill any living thing in that village!

Mr Obasanjo sold the people of Bakassi to their untimely death by handing them over to Cameroun

Mr Obasanjo killed as many IGBO as possible on the idea of One-Nigeria.

He spent $10billion to buy more DARKNESS to Nigerians.

He is the most famous 'mass-murder' in Nigeria!

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to compare Hitler and OBJ shows that you are exclusively out of touch with reality.

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You will expect those who say OBJ is not the best leader we ever had to give us an alternative name.

I wont hold my breadth waiting because they usually dont.

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Afam,do you ever try to put the atrocities of nigerian leaders like obasanjo in pictorial and practical contest?of how many children die of preventable diseases in a week in nigeria because leaders like obasanjo have siphon the money meant for health services,of how many women die at child birth because of the same reason,of how many able bodied individuals die unnecessarily on road accidents because the money meant for road maintenance have been diverted by the leaders,the list goes,if you do,i don't think you will ever have the guts to commend human beings like that.

Someone like obasanjo is not in any way different from someone like hitler,they are both heartless and destructive souls but with different tactics and applications,they both hate humanity.

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Thank God you used the word probably.

No, I did not get a contract from his regime as I do not need one.

However, for the sake of argument if I was asked to do a project and the price was right without any kick back or contract inflation involved I will do so and this will not have anything to do with my views on anything. I maintain a very high level of integrity in both business and personal life.

OBJ sure made some mistakes but when compared to all other leaders I will rate him high any day.

I do not believe in blanket commendation or condemnation of anyone or group because doing so could mislead us. People should be blamed for their mistakes and praised for their good works.

If to say I be Yoruba person now some go say I dey support my tribe man, now wey Enugu far from Ogun na contract dem wan link am to.

I am an independent minded person.

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Afam,you probably got a big contract from obasanjo regime,most times you come across as a very reasonable and humane person,but when it comes to that monster,you do let me down.

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Using the same line of thought then we may assume that those who constantly say he is bad may have been affected by his anti corruption initiative so may have dealt a blow to them as scammers or fraudsters. Or, that those in England may be paid agents working for their host nation to say negative things about OBJ.

Who do we always try to attack people who have different views on issues? Everyone must not agree on everything.

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BBC-Big Blind Country.In the country of the blind,theone eyed man is the Boss.Nigerian leaders up to present moment are nothing  but sub-humans,the scums of the earth with obasanjo at the helm.

I wonder why any rational individual will ever put them into positive perspective,unless of course he or she is benefiting from the horrors of leadership in nigeria.

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OBJ remains the best president that has ruled this country in spite of his mistakes.

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Thing people look at on dis nairaland is jus personal issues, he stole money finee, no politician doesnt steall, enforcing yaradua was a mistake for him nd look at it form the other side ( He actually wanted someone that wanted to contiue his policies) of whcih yar'adua because of the influence form the north could

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As Prof. Wole Soyinka would say you are talking from the "four compass points of your mouth".

You can say what you want about Gen. Obasanjo, but please have the sense to see that IBB would always be a little worse. So Gen. Obasanjo never cared about democracy, but in your world IBB did? Please tell me how many coups Obasanjo conducted in Nigeria's history. So Gen. Obasanjo wanted to be a life President, and IBB didn't. IBB stepped aside only because Abacha made him. OBJ's ego-tripping third term agenda was stopped, as it should be, by the people and the Senate.

If we want to speak in absolutesm, then all soldiers that have ever taken the reign of government in Nigeria at any level, while in uniform, should be banned for life. Their extra wealth should be confisticated, including your hero, Ojukwu. But we know that is not going to happen now. They are (were) all in the same group. The lack of honor among thieves is the reason they are "enemies" at different points in time.

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the guy was a military president from mid to late 70s. just because he took off his uniform doesn't make him any better than he was back then.

i personally don't like him a whole lot.

i prefer yaradua to him.

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Obasanjo is the worst Nigerian leader of all time for being the MOST SELFISH of them all. This man had his paws on every deal in the country. Above all, he was UNSCRUPULOUS and never cared about democracy. He was also very devious and an expert at manipulating his political opponents. He empowered and protected CRIMINALS to run roughshod on the country, turning many peaceful regions into war zones, a typical example of which was my state Anambra. If Obasanjo had his way, he would have metamorphosed into a LIFE PRESIDENT. One of the few proud moments I have had as a Nigerian was when the national assembly under the leadership of Senator Ken Nnamani threw out his tenure elongation schemes.

Even the evil genius called IBB loved this country more than Obasanjo because he admitted his limitations and stepped aside. Obasanjo would have caused a war than step down if his term was not finished and he was roundly defeated by more honorable Nigerians. He was preparing to die in office! Everything Obasanjo did, he did for HIMSELF. As far as he is concerned, his love for Nigeria is synonymous with his love of himself. He didn't see any difference between the two. He was becoming the Nigerian state until he was reined in by morally superior and more patriotic Nigerians.

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If leadership evaluation was relative, then OBJ was a First Class President against the backdrop of President Yar'Adua and most other Nigerian heads of state.

However, leadership isn't relative, but is firmly rooted on sound, measurable, and timeless principles of vision, people development, productivity, trust and character - In which case, Baba Iyabo would be advised to withdraw for irredeemably and insuppressibly poor/deplorable performance!

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If I didn't know your writings I would say you were an agent (Gentlelabs is definitely one - deny now o) of Gen. Obasanjo. However, I would have to agree with you that Yar'adua should have built on the Obasanjo admins achievement instead of chasing phantom enemies.

On the other hand, half of the blame for Yar'adua belongs to Gen. Obasanjo, aided by the Obj/Atiku wars.

There are only two persons that have had the opportunity to put Nigeria on the path of greatness. One is Gen. Obasanjo, and the other is Babangida.

Gen. Obasanjo had two good opportunities to ensure his successor was good for NIGERIA. In his first round it was Shagari, a serious mistake he has acknowledged. However, his second try turned out to be even worse aka Yar'adua. Gen. Obasanjo is a good, in another country, perhaps a great General, but he plays politics as if it was soldiering, relying on expediency and self-preservation, instead of what the people need and want.

As for Babangida, he is a pure - yes I said it! Somebody will come here to say that I am calling somebody's father names. Well, there are millions of other people's fathers that his pure idiocy has destroyed and sent to their early grave. I hope he knows to keep himself far away from Aso Rock.

So, no Gen. Obasanjo is not really bad. He his a good soldier, a farmer and brilliant individual, but a very bad judge of character. That achille's heel is threatening his potential place as a father of Nigeria - nobody is the father of a bad country. He has a way of forging compromise, but the choice of Nigeria's leaders should be kept away from him. The people must be allowed to choose their leader so they can hold him accountable.

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mikeansy Gbam! I think you are informed and i salute your understanding of how things are run here in Niger. I just think that it is from the black pot that the white pap comes out. I believe that one day, there will be a major revolution in this country which will birth transformation.

Most of what causes little fracas here in Nigeria is enough to cause war in other countries. The good news is that we will all witness this transformation which will be the story behind our glory.

Well spoken/written my brother, infact i duff my cap for you!

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Well stated. And I agree 100%. I doubt Yaradua's administration can boast of one single technocrat with worthy achievements.

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The whole OBJ is the biggest trouble with Nigeria is one of the most regrettable and uninformed vicious myth of our generation.

It was deisgned by hopeless public officers scared of their own record and will rather blame others for their failures.

I think the fact that it really got traction emphasizes the need for more education, imformation management and institutionalization of records. So that when people come to office and choose to distort the records of their predecessors so that they will have such a low standard to be benchmarked against. We can tell them sorry you are not too smart.

Imagine what Nigeria would have been if . . . . . . .

Alliyu Modibbo concentrated on building on El-Rufai's records and improving Abuja rather than attacking his predecessors (Guess what the so called 32 billion Alliyu Modibbo accused El-Rufai of stealing was confirmed by Minister of State Remi Babalola to be in FCT account). You all know the Abuja El-Rufai left in 2007 and what Abuja is today.

The same is the story of Waziri at EFCC and Ribadu. Instead of fighting corruption Waziri was focused on Ribadu and accused him of not declaring his assets. after months and months of battling Ribadu, the Code of Conduct Tribunal led by Constance Momoh has admitted that actually Ribadu declared his assets before becoming EFCC chairman and after he left EFCC. Guess what? they still want to arrest Ribadu in other to declare him innocent. only in Nigeria.

Look at the Independent power project. They were at an advanced stage before OBJ left office. When he left The Yar'adua Government accused OBJ of spending 32 Billion on power project without achieving nothing. It turns out after months and months of probing OBJ and wasting everyone's time. only about less than 5billion was spent and there are actually power plants to show for that expenditure in various parts of the country as well the sea port waiting to be moved to where they are to be installed. But instead of continuity the Yar'adua government chose Politics over Progress.

and there are lots of examples like this. I don't want to mention the banks because the debates on that front are still fresh and the mistakes are yet to manifest themselves.

OBJ has his faults, but OBJ's goods far outweigh his ills. I think he is the best leader Nigeria has seen so far.

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