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Is Lagos State A Muslim State?

In as much as i dont usually delve into religious issues, i cannot but observe and make comments on this and indeed i dont mind whose ox is gored. I had taken out time a while back and looked at the state called "Lagos"; and about 2 months ago i told a gathering of friends that Lagos state is a muslim state. My friends came up with different opinions; some said they dont think so and some said they have never thought about it etc

However, i was only able to confirm my sincere opinion on Friday when Lagos state government held its government forum marking its 1st 500 days in office. I was chocked but not so shocked that in the commencement of the occasion as usual prayers would be administered. To my great surprise, prayer was only taken in islam. I thought about our leaders (so called). Could that have been an omission or what? As supposed, despite the fact that i was born and bred here in Lagos and the fact that this state has become so cosmopolitan; accommodating all tribes and tongues, knowing fully well that it was not only muslims that voted for the present administration.

I really find this very absurd and not acceptable to the people of this great state. For record purposes, if this was a mistake, we are not looking forward to that kind of mistake again.

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All these religious talk like say na we holy pass.

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IBB and Atiku married xtian women

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I SOMETIMES GET THE FEELING THAT AN AVERAGE XTIAN IS NOT THINKING RIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO A MATTER OF RELIGION, FOR INSTANCE WHEN A MUSLIM DOES SOMETHING BAD, EVERY MUSLIM IS TO BE BLAME, BUT WHEN A XTIAN DOES THE SAME, HE BECOME A HOODLUM. IS NIGERIA A XTIAN STATE? IF NOT, WHY DO WE ONLY HAVE PUBLIC HOLIDAYS ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS? I THINK WE SHOULD CALL FOR THAT TO BE SHIFTED TO SOME OTHER DAYS SO AS NOT TO FAVOUR ANY GROUP.

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With religion, sense takes flight. Quietly walks away from thread.

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I am not here to judge performance in office or the economic development of the United Arab Emirates. I know a fact, and I saw people seeking it so I said it as it is. Shikenan.

I personally beleive that this issue of prayers at public functions should cease. Even when both Islamic and Christian prayers are offered, are they going to then going to marginalise those of of with indigineous religious beliefs? Let there be no segregation before or after a public occasion. That's all I'm saying.

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One of the few things I envy Americans for is their desire not to be biased.

They try most times (even though they might not be successful) to judge people by what they can do for the nation and not by race, gender, religion, ethnicity etc. If only we can borrow a leaf from this.

I just cant understand how the religion of a serving public servant should be the interest?

Why not what he has done for the state, what he can still do and any advice to make things better.

Why do we channel our ideas to Negative things? How does one opening prayer in one single event translate to a "Muslim State"

Isn't Dubai (UAE) a Muslim State, see where they are, do you know how many Nigerians go there annual to patronise their economy?

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ok e don do, next topic!

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The fact is that most Yoruba Xtians go by their natives names hard would you find them being addressed by Hebrew names.

That gives you an erroneous belief that we have more Moslems.

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@dnex

Thanx jare, I have said it before that most Lagos state indigenes are muslims. Most Lagos state indigenes that are christians are converts from islam to christianity; that is why you will still see a Monrufu and a Rashidat that are Christians. (Monrufu and Rashidat are muslim names).

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I have told you people, if you like take it, if you like don't . But don't start arguing when you don't know what's on ground.

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@ denex,

You should know that Yoruba xtian majorly bear their native names and hardly would you hear them going by Anthony, Steven and John while the Moslems bear their Islamic names.

The former King of lagos Michael Oyekan I think. Those Brazilians named families of Lagos Island Fernandez, Da Silva etc?

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There are far more muslim than christian Lagos indigenes. Just try to remember the names of all your friends that are real Lagos indigenes. Not Yorubas living in Lagos O! Muslim indigenes. Kafayat, Monsurat, Jelili, Quodri, Salamot, Ahmed, Taofeek. I live in the Lekki environ and there you will find a lot of ancient Lagos families just like on the Lagos Island. In Lekki, ALL the indigenes are muslims. There's even a mosque on Alpha Beach that was built hundreds of years ago. I just don understand how the Jihadists jumped from Kwara, skipping several Yoruba states and landing in Lagos. Maybe they were colonised by a different clan of muslims not from the Sokoto Caliphate, but from the West African coast and may have come through the sea. Maybe O!

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Mugu,

Please don't bring this Hausa style divide & rule into Lagos.

Prayers are said in public funtions nationwide except Hausa-Fulani area thus: Opening prayer-Islam;Closing prayer-Christian. This is usually alternated.

Fashola was a christian until age 21(probably converted cos of his dad,as he's the 1st son),his mother is Anglican,his wife catholic ,all his siblings are christians. So please Yoruba people are more enlightened than that.

Poverty,NEPA,Area boys & inept local govts cut across religion lines.

Thank you.

Sorry I called u mugu,its just a bit funny .

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We need to get these records straight. I did not post this thread to raise controversies that would generate into debasement of selves. Its really fore the purpose of observations and records. So that if it happens again, we would then know if it was just a co-incident or not. However, my point at this time is to look at the Lagos of the future. Who looks like a christian that is likely to succeed Fashola in the present dispensation? I dont have a problem with Fashola, however, my problem is with Tinubu the "Godfada". You would not imagine that even at the so called Governor's forum i watched, Tinubu was shameless in sitting in the front row right beside Fashola's consisting of other Lagos EXCOs. I s he still a cabinet member of Lagos state? If your a king maker, i think there is more honour in taking a back sit and be given all the respect you deserve from afar

I see an Adedibu in Tinubu, becoming an Adeditunubu. Dictating who bcomes local government chairman and other officials in Lagos.

I am of the opinion that if things continue like this, it would only become whoever Adeditunubu has annointed that can rule in Lagos. I dont think this would help in the kind of democracy we are building.

I dont what you guys think o.

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@poster

If u had waited till d end,i'm sure d closing prayer would hve been in a christain way.

Back then in high schl.morning devotion was a christain affair from monday to thursday then friday in a muslim style ,even wit a muslim principal.

What i'm trying to say is d muslims in Lagos don't infiltrate religion into politics unlike other parts of d country[xtains included]

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Don't get me wrong, Tinubu was one of the best governors in the past administration, and Fashola is doing great too; their performances compared with many christian governors are superior.

However, you should understand my curiosity, it doesn't seem coincidental to have well-performing governors in Lagos who have been consistently muslims, do we need muslim governors in Enugu and Akwa Ibom too?

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I dont know why we allways associate everything with religion.We allways create uneccessary division and allways claim we are holy.Christians in high political offices steal likewise the Muslims even the pastors and Imams.Political transparency or credibility does not have anything to do religion

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Naijaking

I quite understand your concern. However, it's presumptuous to say that the choice of the governor was based on religious consideration, as no-one can prove it. Yes Tinubu is a muslim but he was nominated by Pa Abraham Adesanya, who was a christian.

Even if Tinubu's endorsement of Fashola had religious undertone, it's yet to be proven.

Fashola's wife is a christian and I know Fashola always took his children to church on sundays before he became governor.

Ultimately, the religious status of these personalities has not impacted negatively on Lagos.

This should be the bottomline.

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When a state like Lagos and even Kaduna with "balanced" population of christians and muslims consistently produces only muslim governors, curios minds like me would start wondering why?

Is the population data accurate?

Is there an unseen glass ceiling holding back christians?

Are the muslims better politicians?

Do christians prefer playing second fiddle to muslims?

How do correct the situation?

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@dayokanu

You said that the political power of Lagos state is in the hands of the muslims while business power lies in the hands of the christians. Good.

But may i never hear you say that Kaduna state is a muslim state as some of you use to say; because Kaduna state has never been ruled by a christian before. Kaduna state also has a balanced number of both religions, but it has always been from muslim to another muslim on the governors seat.

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He is paranoid and insecure.

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ROFL.

he just called me paranoid a minute ago.

abeg dokita

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You can try all you want, but I wouldn't let you change the topic of this thread. I did not say performance is not important, I did not even say that Lagos governors have been poor performers. The topic is whether Lagos is a muslim state or not, and I remarked that most of the governors have been muslims.

If you dispute my ascertion that Lagos has been mostly ruled by elected muslim governors come with it.

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@Poster, I don't believe Lagos is necessarily a muslim state, but we do have a lot more muslims in office, than not. I mean if you go back the last 20 years, most 95% of the governors and deputy governors have been muslims. The muslim community has grow and expanded their influence in the state during the same time. I will not say it may never become a muslim state but I believe it is left to each group to decide what, if any, group will control the state.

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My brother, I don't know why you think I'm here to pick a fight? Bawolomo made a good point that you have been too cynical to simply make, because you think that everybody that talks about religion in Nigeria is picking a fight. Performance, performace, that is the topic for another thread.

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umm it's not that hard to understand, most of the indigenous families in lagos have been muslim. they have the political power but their policies are not based on religion.

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Most (all) elected Lagos state governors have been muslims, not some. The question is: is it by accident or design? Note, don't change the subject by talking about performance, that's not the issue here. The issue is whether Lagos state have always been ruled by muslims?

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Lagos is not a religiously biased state and it should certainly stay that way. I didn't even know Fashola was a muslim until I saw it somewhere in the papers during a religious celebration and even then I only see him as a Nigerian who is governor of Lagos State. The main thing is whether he is performing or not, and religion does not influence that. Generally, to paraphrase an American commentator referring to his country, most Nigerians are moralistic (or in this case, religious) without being moral. All the religious and tribal angles to things is exhausting.

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thank you.

How does one opening prayer make Lagos a Christian or Muslim state? I doubt the OP is familiar with Lagos at all.

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When will debates like this be a thing of the past? Must there always be an angle to everything?

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That not true. most lagos indigenes are christian and the first religion that came to lagos is christianity. That why nearly all the street in lagos island as a christian name. one of my root is track to a street called palmchurch st in lagos. that tell you it is christian. the other is from ondo state.

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Answers your question

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This topic had been discussed here previously: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-127121.64.html

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I don't like talking religion in politics. but It is obvious that christian are more in lagos. but it may mean, yorubas families have both muslim and christian . even marriage too.  Abiola was muslim won 90+% in ondo state.

who ever held the program may have made a mistake.

I do not think a man religion should matter but what he as to do for people.

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By the way, I, for one, don't take all this issue of opening or closing prayers seriously. In fact, in teams I have led/anchored/coordinated in the past, I always tried to evade opening/closing prayers, and prefer the program start off straight. Pray in yourself if you want to.

Moslems are more political while the xtians are more into the corporate world. How many CEO's are Moslems?

Muslims are equally doing well in the corporate world please. The likes of Wale Tinubu(Oando), Fola Adeola(founder of GTB),Mutiu Sunmonu(MD,Shell Nigeria), Dangote(President Dangote group) and many others are all Muslims and leading the corporate Nigeria

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This is a good question. Jakande, Tinubu, Fashiola have all been muslims---interesting!

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Moslems are more political while the xtians are more into the corporate world. How many CEO's are Moslems?

Nigeria has been ruled by more Moslems mean Nigeria is a predominantly moslem state?

If you look at the names of our past leaders you would think Nigeria is a Moslem state. but if another person should look at the names of our contingent to the Olympics he would think Nigeria ia a Xtian state.

Looking at Nigeria sporting scene we find the Xtians dominating does that make Nigeria a Xtian country?

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did what the OP state happen for real?

is lagos State an Islamic state then?

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Majority of Lagos state indigenes are muslims (not fanatical ones sha). Those that are christians only converted to christianity later.

if not true, why is it that most of the Lagos state past governors are muslims.

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Lagos is a Yoruba state where religion hardly causes ripples.

In most Yoruba families you have Xtians and Moslems and they have mixed well over the ages. Of all Yoruba states presently we have 5 govs who are Xtians and 1 moslem. in 1999, 3 moslems 3 xtians

The current political landscape might favour Moslems but think of it A Sir Michal Otedola was governor where he defeated Dapo Sarumi

In the primaries he got the ticket over Yomi Edu and Prof Femi Agbalajobi all these guys are moslems.

The prayer might be an oversight but Lagos is not a moslem state

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