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Nigeria: Do We Have An Army?

Do we have a strong army?

Can we defend ourselves, can we defend her during wartime? If a war breaks out tomorrow, I pray it never does, are we ready? what do we have?

Are the igbiras we have in those barracks well-trained?

see somalia, congo, sudan, iraq, etc

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egypt, algeria, and arguably libya have better armies. south africa would be stronger too had it not dismantled it's nuclear program

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NIGERIA HAS the best army in the continent and one of the best ground forces in the world

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I heard the story of the vehicles bought by the police equipment fund. What i read was that the IG gave the order to sieze all 400 vehicles as some other govt. parastatals wanted to lay their hands on them.no helicopters are missing.so please, double-check your post.

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HABA! Ok that's too much.For heaven's sake, who told you the Nigerian Police have misplaced their helicopters?What i know is that two helicopters (Mil-14s) were donated to them by the Ukrainians.Bros please don't post things you are not sure of.

The ships that dissapeared in the hands of the navy definitely soiled it's name and was felt throughout the military. That was why the top officers involved faced court-martial.

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Oh you don't seem to have heard about the Police Equipment Fund (PEF) and the 2 helicopters that were bought and commissioned by former IG, well the new IG says they were never taken to the force headquarters.

Don't contradict statements you are not sure of.

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As someone who hails from the Niger-Delta, i know that what's happening i.e the kidnappings etc, is a fallout of what we, especially the poor ones living in the creeks have gone through.But i lost all respect for MEND and other militant groups when they began to kidnap children just for money, terrorise innocent civilians, and most of all, kill innocent people (including a very close member of my family).

I don't also buy all that bullshit of fighting for us, `cos if you know just how much they've been given, you wouldn't be heaping so much praise on them.You only had to go to PH -that's b4 JTF came into town- to see how those piece of s%*$e spent money they had gotten on behalf of the niger-delta people - buying nice cars, and blowing the rest on hookers,and of course guns.Boy am i glad that Def HQ gave the kill order.

All the same, i really hope that the Govt (federal,state,local) do more in improving the standard of living in the Niger-delta.The oil companies should also be made to carry out their social responsibilities.But MEND and the rest?Well, they're dead meat.

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The Mi28 is in service but its still under R&D and has not seen much action so the jury's still out on how effective it can actually be, i guess its worth taking a risk to procure before its true potential is known and it price starts to rise steeply.

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I used the term Egbesu boys holistically in this discourse to include MEND, but it seems my optimism is misplaced, I believe great wrongs have and are being done to the Niger Delta people. Therefore I agreed with the struggle not the methodology.

How sad amongst all these groups none of them by your assertion are pursuing this quest of socio- economic emancipation on the basis of ideology: truth, integrity, selflessness, righteousness, fair play and better quality of life for all.

Ocelot2006, are you saying that not even one of these groups has some ideological conscientious basis in their quest.

Nigeria is not my principal residence at the moment; I am however, hoping to change that sooner rather than later. I admit to staying no more than six weeks at any one time, my visits being at least twice a year mostly. I think I will try to go a lot more to ground level, i neva do any beta village waka for delta, that doesn’t mean I’m in VI all the time.

As per the Apache like a good thorough bred it does require some high spec. Maintenance, to keep it operational there is no cutting corners. “No manage it” but with tech assistance from the US we can train our aero technicians to become competent.

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One more thing, the Mi-28N night hunter is already in service.

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Earlier I used the term hungry and genuine in respect of Egbesu boys , these guys are intelligent and not silly why are they allowing the Ibori’s, Odili’s, Alamieyeseigha ,etc, etc past and present to steal public money without a response from themselves in kind.

In reality every public official in the Delta should have great apprehension if not outright dread and fear. Knowing that reprisal of instant justice at the hands of the Egbesu Boys, will be swift and hard, forget EFCC .

Right, Now i know that you've not been in the country for quite sometime. Egbesu boys were basically low-life thieves (believe me, no body lost any sleep over them) that robbed boats in the creeks.But the police cracked down on them a long time ago and they're gone.However,i'll admit that what replaced them was far more dangerous, thanks to the politicians that armed them. Before sept 2007,the people in PH lived in absolute fear.almost every day,there were gunshots and people were killed.The police, well, they simply couldn't do jack, and a%#holes like soboma george and ateke ruled.But things changed when they really crossed the line and JTF was called in.Ever since then, they've been hiding in the creeks, while the JTF are busy hunting them down and everything's back to normal.

The EFCC? Now that's the one agency that i, & i believe a lot of Nigerians, have lots of respect for. Every public office holder now knows that the fear of EFCC is the beginning of wisdom.But that's another story.Back to the topic

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Earlier I used the term hungry and genuine in respect of Egbesu boys , these guys are intelligent and not silly why are they allowing the Ibori’s, Odili’s, Alamieyeseigha ,etc, etc past and present to steal public money without a response from themselves in kind.

In reality every public official in the Delta should have great apprehension if not outright dread and fear. Knowing that reprisal of instant justice at the hands of the Egbesu Boys, will be swift and hard, forget EFCC .

As they say charity begins at home, “lets deal with the thief weh deh house with us before we go find de ones for Abuja”. Kidnapping innocent oil workers does not give this struggle credibility, na them thief our money

The Mil 35 may match the Apache for speed but not for manoeuvrability and outright precision stealth and firepower, these things like a ghost you don’t know about it until your hit, this things have cut up a Migs in dog fight, (Iraq war). The night fighting capability and low level flying capability is unmatched. Maybe the Mi-28N (Night Hunter) in few years to come may contend but for now it’s the Apache. Nonetheless, I know the Mil 35 is a lot cheaper, consequently best value may give the Mil 35 some edge.

The probability exists however,for competitive tendering and the US is our main oil importer, and if Obama wins I’m sure they’ll cut us a good juicy big burger deal.

Please recheck the apache's technical specifications.it was not designed to be stealthy.But i'll give you one thing, it's onboard array of hi-tech avionics. The apache is also able to engage about 6 targets at the same time, and the hellfire missile is definitely a very deadly and accurate one. However, i still would not choose because of it's high level of maintenance.you only have to go to the current conflict to in iraq and afghanistan to see that the environment alone is already exacting it's toll on that helicopter (at least at the begining).But it's different for the mi-35.

-That helicopter operates in harshest environments in this world

-it is basically a flying armoured tank. The apache can't boast of that.

-The amount of armaments it carries exceeds that of the apache

-it is very quite (believe me, i know), therefor can be used to sneak up behind the enemy. The mujahdeen still have night-mares about that chopper.

-it requires less manpower, and is easy to maintain. In combat that is very important.

- it can also serve as a multipurpose helicopter with it's ability to up to 7 soldiers in it's troop compartment.The apache can't boast of that.

-The mere fact that you're at the business end of that helicopter is enough to give your nightmares for a very long.it looks like a prehistoric predator.The worse thing is that its bite is far worse than its looks. So it's not a suprise that it is called satan's chariot, crocodile,flying tank.

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yeah your very rite its really an L-39 trainer, am gettin rusty i should have looked properly @ where the wings met the fuselage, i made my wrong decision based on the power pack mounting, thanx for the correction.

No prob, bro.

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@ Ocellot2006

yeah ur very rite its really an L-39 trainer, am gettin rusty i should have looked properly @ where the wings met the fuselage, i made my wrong decision based on the power pack mounting, thanx 4 the correction.

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Damn! PTH you too much.Why u finish my brother just like that.Anyway,back to the discussion- I got nothing to contribute.I just feel like crying for motherland.

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Do we have an Army in Nigeria? Primary school question, answer:they are in the Niger Delta creeks selling arms to youths, were you not in this counrty when 2 naval shipps disappear from the Nigerian sea? you say where was the navy? Well, before you abuse me, I know the Nigerian Police is not Part of the army, but 2 of their own helicopter just disappeared too. Well the IG says he doesn,t know how it happened.

Sorry if I sound a bit off key.

HABA! Ok that's too much.For heaven's sake, who told you the Nigerian Police have misplaced their helicopters?What i know is that two helicopters (Mil-14s) were donated to them by the Ukrainians.Bros please don't post things you are not sure of.

The ships that dissapeared in the hands of the navy definitely soiled it's name and was felt throughout the military. That was why the top officers involved faced court-martial.

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This is the alpha jet:

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This picture is a class picture of a class being trained at the air weapons college kainji, the aircraft there is the light trainer called the alpha jet, u wont believe all the students share that alpha and the same trainer is used for ground offensives when the Airforce call upon it, A friend of mine that went to the college said he never had the opportunity of being traine in that aircraft because it ws on national duty some where, We don't have a military and thats the truth another bitter truth is that we can't afford a modern fightin force now.

That is NOT the alpha jet. That is the L-39 albatross used for advance flight training, and it could also double as a light-armed combat aircraft.

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My approach to this problem will be from two perspectives, in the first instance a socio-economic as well as political has to be proffered. The people have to be on your side, communities have to be engaged, & I don’t mean a few selfish big belly chiefs seeking self interest to the detriment of anybody else.

Again, excellent points.

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they won't be threat if u had a real police force and border guards. the mexican mafia knows not to go deep into texas or california. that's a death sentence for them.

Right, the US employs the best technology at it's borders at the north with canada and the south with mexico, but immigrants and drug peddlers still sneak through. Do also have to add that the terrain down there is far better than what we have here in nigeria? The sahara desert aint child's play, and you only have to fly over the mangrove swamps, or better still take a speed-boat ride to appreciate what we are up against.All the same, i agree that our border guards (customs) and the police have to be improved.

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venezuela doesn't like the US. but that doesn't mean the US considers venezuela a millitary threat. countries like benin,niger, and ivory coast wouldn't even dare invade nigeria. let's be realistic here.

Ivory coast and Burkina faso provided the NPLF and RUF with a safe haven and weapons during th liberian and sierra leonean civil war. So yes, they were, and are still considered a threat to us.

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the best defense isn't always attack in all cases. the germans went on attack in the battle of bulge and see how that ended up?? the nigerian millitary has no real threats other than cameroun. i see no reason why we can't have a self-defense force like japan with paramillitaries and voluntary service in case of emergency(like switzerland). our defensive capabilities especially the navy should be enhanced rather than wasting money on peacekeeping missions when we don't even have peace in our own home. the nigerian navy needs cruisers and destroyers to deal with the niger delta problem. streamline the army IMO.

WRONG. The germans failed in world war 2 because of one thing: they opened a new front in the east (operation barbarossa) and that was a very big mistake.

Also, you are so wrong to say that we don't have enemies. You only have to go through security briefings to see the real picture.

- Most francophone countries in west africa don't like us simply because we're the top dog in the region. That's why they covertly provided charles taylor with support. Why do you think we weren't so keen in helping ivory coast when they had problems? Go figure it.

-oil is currently a very important resource in the major economies in the world. the middleeast is boiling, venezuela could decide to close the tap, so their next option is africa.so, if causing problems within the country is going to provide them with cheap oil,they'll do it.

-Nigeria's status as a country that is not under the sphere of any major power, and the fact that we influence what happens in Africa has not really endeared us to some countries both in the west and east.

- heavily armed raiders that come in from our northern borders shared with Chad.There's currently fears that the currently fears that the fighting in chad will spill over to nigeria, and the military is currently on red alert.

-Finally, you have the foes within e.g niger-delta militants, MASSOB.

So you see, the fact that we have people smiling at us doesn't mean that they wish us well.

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Is that what Nigerian fighter pilots wear? Cool!

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Nigeria Army are the best in Africa but with the worst Police see the below

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i wouldn't advice that the Nigerian military be transformed to a defense force. what we need is a military that is small, well trained, and highly mobile. Besides, the best form of defense is attack.

the best defense isn't always attack in all cases. the germans went on attack in the battle of bulge and see how that ended up?? the nigerian millitary has no real threats other than cameroun. i see no reason why we can't have a self-defense force like japan with paramillitaries and voluntary service in case of emergency(like switzerland). our defensive capabilities especially the navy should be enhanced rather than wasting money on peacekeeping missions when we don't even have peace in our own home. the nigerian navy needs cruisers and destroyers to deal with the niger delta problem. streamline the army IMO.

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it wouldn't be a police problem. if the police and customs had been able to stop weapon's smuggling. in the US, terrorist groups are disintegrated using the secret service/police. what are the coast guards and Nigerian police doing? nothing. what does Nigeria need a bloated army for when u have an high poverty rate?? create a self-defense force like japan and delay the expansion of the armed forces 4 a while.

We do not have a bloated army.1999, the size of the military was slashed from 200,000+ to a mere 80,000 (combined arms) and it is still that way. this is far less than what most african countries have.Normally, it would have been a bad thing due to the low manpower, it but it made more sense `cos:

- we now have a military that is much more mobile.

-the fire power has really improved.

-the country saves more money. The extra money could be used to improve their welfare and training.More gears could be bought.

i wouldn't advice that the Nigerian military be transformed to a defense force. what we need is a military that is small, well trained, and highly mobile. Besides, the best form of defense is attack.

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To battle the militants, what they need are lots of heavily armed gunboats that can operate in shallow waters and helicopters. They should buy more mil-35 (it's one of the best in its class), use the pumas and augusta 109s for transport.

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The niger delta problem is not a police problem, way beyond the capabilities of any police force, have no doubts this is a military conflict.

it wouldn't be a police problem. if the police and customs had been able to stop weapon's smuggling. in the US, terrorist groups are disintegrated using the secret service/police. what are the coast guards and Nigerian police doing? nothing. what does Nigeria need a bloated army for when u have an high poverty rate?? create a self-defense force like japan and delay the expansion of the armed forces 4 a while.

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My heart goes out to those our guys, they are almost being commisioned for suicide missions, no body armour, no night vision, no air support, etc, etc.

Well, we don't really have many units of NVGs and i really hope we buy more, but the body armour is now a standard issue (at least for those in combat - e.g the Niger-delta). Air support is still a problem due to the low number of helos we have (the BO-105 has been withdrwan from service), but the airforce and navy continues to provide Combat Air support for the army and patrols almost everyday in the Niger-Delta with the mil-35 gunships.

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Finally the AK47 is rugged & reliable has a higher calibre round but precision zero compared to the SA80 now with UGL or M16 and for most they come with NV sights as standard.

If i was to choose between the ak-47 and the british sa-80, i would DEFINITELY choose the ak-47 (it's a no-brainer).You only have to go through the negative reviews given about the sa-80, ESPECIALLY by the British army (they were wondering why they didn't just stick to the FN-FAL or buy the far better G-36) to see that it isn't a rifle of choice.As a matter of fact, it's problems were so bad that the british MOD had to call in Heckler & Koch to redesign to rifle.

How cool a rifle looks does not make it a good one, but rather it's reliablity, accuracy, and most of all, the training of man behind the rifle.

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Do you know that when they go on UN missions they are payed commensurate pay and when they get temp. demobbed at airport all the money is taken off them, i had a few NCO's complaining to me on return from UN peace keeping mission.

WOW!! Who fed you this rubbish?Soldiers and policemen sent on foreing missions are paid twice as much as their collegues left in the country.Please get your facts straight.

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With giant of Africa tag we have and our international standing and our vast oil reserves we have no choice but to have a competent military force. Consider the humilation, Nigerian soldiers butchered like chickens by a bunch of Sudanese rag-tag rebels, that situation is completely unacceptable i am sure they didnt have the logistics nor the equipment to respond. This is reality, in Liberia the army didnt even have enough trucks not APC,s just basic trucks to meet their operational responsibility, maybe the ones they had were tokunboh from berger? UN had to put in an official complaint, imagine!!!

I knew the darfur issue was going to come up, so i'll clarify a few things. In darfur we currently have about 4000-7000 combat troops that's also including the Rwandans. Remove the HQ and support personnel and you have a less amount. Now these troops are charged with protecting an area that is roughly the size of france (correct me if i'm wrong).that means that they are heavily extended. as a result of this, it's going to be EXTREMELY difficult to provide reinforcement.To make matters worse, travelling by road is very dangerous and difficult, and there is only one helicopter. This poses a logistical nightmare.

Now at the base that was attacked, we had about 100. let me list out a few things they had to face:

- They faced an enemy that numbered about 1000+ and heavily armed. That meant the ratio was about 10:1 if not more.

- They had NO combat air support. That is the one thing that gives most armies in the west an edge.

With these problems, and the fact that reinforcement was going to take a long time to get to the base simply worked against our boys, and i don't think any military would have done better.At the end of the fire fight, some nigerian soldiers got killed with some MIA. But at least they stood their ground.

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The niger delta problem is not a police problem, way beyond the capabilities of any police force, have no doubts this is a military conflict.

With giant of Africa tag we have and our international standing and our vast oil reserves we have no choice but to have a competent military force. Consider the humilation, Nigerian soldiers butchered like chickens by a bunch of Sudanese rag-tag rebels, that situation is completely unacceptable i am sure they didnt have the logistics nor the equipment to respond. This is reality, in Liberia the army didnt even have enough trucks not APC,s just basic trucks to meet thier operational responsibility, maybe the ones they had were tokunboh from berger? UN had to put in an official complaint, imagine!!!

My heart goes out to those our guys, they are almost being commisioned for suicide missions, no body armour, no night vision, no air support, etc, etc.

Do you know that when they go on UN missions they are payed commensurate pay and when they get temp. demobbed at airport all the money is taken off them, i had a few NCO's complaining to me on return from UN peace keeping mission.

Finally the AK47 is rugged & reliable has a higher calibre round but precision zero compared to the SA80 now with UGL or M16 and for most they come with NV sights as standard.

Why can we not buy better ting for our boys eh ?? is it because the big belly generals never see active service as opposed to political service.

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in all honesty, defense spending should be the least of our priorities. i rather see the police strenghtened to deal with the niger delta problem and others.

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This cadets are not only subjected to horrible treatments, but molestation to make them subordinate.

What do you expect? You expect their trainers to feed them with candy? This is how you weed out poor-officer material because you are expected to make decisions under an intense or very stressfull conditions.In the end what you have are capable men.You think ours is bad?Find out more about the Plebe period that cadets of the US military academy go through.My favourite are the russians and Isrealis.

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For those who say the Nigerian millitary is worth there salt, all they need to do is see there incompetency in quenching the insurgency in the Niger Delta. The only thing they know is how to pick on harmless, defenseless citizens, afterall, this is the same army where in order to cope up with the inadequacies or lack of funding for a well equipped and well trained standing army, soldiers are subjected to inhumane treatment all in the name of toughness. This cadets are not only subjected to horrible treatments, but molestation to make them subordinate. Proper 21st century millitary training is substituted for brutal and archaic "training". Let's see them perform a simple millitary manuever or quell an insurrection or uprising in the North whenever those great ones go crazy again. This is the so called "powerful army" that was woeful while enduring serious casualties during ECOMOG operations in sierra leone and liberia in the 90's despite the fact that the millitary was underreporting or flat out denying the number of millitary dead.

For those who say that Nigeria's army is the strongest in West Africa should know that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

I'm not trying to say that we have the best military. If you go through my previous posts, i've said that we still have a lot of flaws from equipment, welfare of soldiers and sailors to training, thanks again to corruption. But as i said before, things are really changing for the better in the military.

As for the Niger-delta crisis;let me ask this question: how would you and most Nigerians feel if the govt. took all-out military action with the gloves off when the thoughts of incidents like Odi still rings in the minds of most Nigerians, especially those in the Niger-Delta?That is the one thing those in the top hierachy of the military and the federal govt do think about because the Niger-Delta problem is a very sensitive issue.Besides, continous military action may only make it worse. You've also forgotten that the military's fighting in a VERY DIFFICULT terrain (the swamps), and they lack a large number of helicopter.

By the way, i happened to witness the crisis and the military's intervention in PH, and i have to say that i was really glad that the military took over security.I'm also proud of the way they dealt with the militants.

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no mind them o, before the niger delta crisis started, they were spending more money on the ministry of defense than education and agriculture, who knows what they are defending.

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For those who say the Nigerian millitary is worth there salt, all they need to do is see there incompetency in quenching the insurgency in the Niger Delta. The only thing they know is how to pick on harmless, defenseless citizens, afterall, this is the same army where in order to cope up with the inadequacies or lack of funding for a well equipped and well trained standing army, soldiers are subjected to inhumane treatment all in the name of toughness. This cadets are not only subjected to horrible treatments, but molestation to make them subordinate. Proper 21st century millitary training is substituted for brutal and archaic "training". Let's see them perform a simple millitary manuever or quell an insurrection or uprising in the North whenever those great ones go crazy again. This is the so called "powerful army" that was woeful while enduring serious casualties during ECOMOG operations in sierra leone and liberia in the 90's despite the fact that the millitary was underreporting or flat out denying the number of millitary dead.

For those who say that Nigeria's army is the strongest in West Africa should know that in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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If an army is decided on size, yes we have one.

If an army is decided on capability then we have a question, are we technologically efficient ? are we disciplined, motivated and commited ??

The average army has a night time fighting capability, night vision is standard not an option.

Sometime ago i watched a BBC documentary of Sierra leone, and the cameras were live, at that moment a couple of rebels decided to let off a couple of rounds into the nigerian camp, cameras rolling see our guys ducking, jumping, rolling without direction and returning fire into the wind at assumed and hopeful targets, complete pandemonium, every body find level and the usual, i no wan die Oh.

I watched another documentary US soldiers, not navy seals, delta force or 82nd Airborne, just regular marines and some insurgents decided to let off some rounds the response was immediate marines running M16's blazing, M240's letting loose straight into the line of recieved fire, in hot pursuit, No Shakin ! No Fear !! disciplined, directed, determined, proffessional and efficient.

Imagine 10 Egbesu boys with a few chinese made AK47's , RPG's and a couple of high calibre MG,s enter PH(for day time not night) the city go close it will almost take a whole battalion to clear them. I REST OH !!!

We do have NVGs. The problem is that they aren't so much and most times, there are in storage due to some of the old -school officers that we still have (thank God, a few left) who believe that they should be used only during "special occasions" as if they were some form of christmas cloth. But like i said, things are changing, thanks to the new breed of post-military rule forward thinking and young officers. Our doctrine is also changing,due to the post 9-11 world we live in, and the niger-delta crisis due to the opponent we fight and the terrain we fight in.By the way, we may have had some flaws in sierre leone, but the country is currently peacefull due to the bravery and sacrifice of our men.That's why the british came to us,asking us to stay due to our experience, and the UN handing over operational control of the unit sent to replace ECOMOG after the former commander from india messed it up.

One more thing, if there is one flaw that the nigerian army,it's one thing-OVERKILL.it happened somalia, liberia, and sierre leone in the 90s. the only time i saw nigerian soldiers really scared was during the fall of freetown and the capture of lungi airport.

Finally,on the militant case in PH. i have to agree that they acted with impunity before JTF came.But these are the reasons:

- The military at 1st never wanted to be drawn into the problems in port harcourt but rather left it to the police.On a good day,that was the right thing to do.Besides, the whole niger-delta problem is a very sensitive issue.

- Even when they wanted to carry out actions on these cult groups, their hands were tied by the federal govt `cos they feared there was going to be a repeat Odi (remember OVERKILL?).

-the police command couldn't handled these militants because they where well armed with chinese AK-47s,RPG,GPMGs,etc.the closest thing the police has to grenades are flashbangs and CS canisters. and they are armed lightly (FN,K-2,beretta 9mm,ak-47). also, only mobile police squadron in rivers was stretched thin due to the fact that they had to protect other assets outside the capital, and units from other squadrons were rushed in.this gives the militants a slight edge as they know PH more than these new mobile police officers and men.Finally,corruption played its own part as some officers were in the payroll of these cultists

but finally, the military (JTF) got involved and they performed excellently, securing PH and killing these militants

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"the egyptian, libyan and south african forces could be considered stronger than the nigerian army. stop with the generalizations "

If it comes to quantity of arms, and in some cases quality,these countries you've just mentioned are ahead of us,especially south africa. but with the exception of south africa,i do not have much respect for the rest.Reasons?The egyptians are basically being spoon fed by the americans who give them a large amount of what they use provided they do nothing against Isreal, and i still don't see much professionalism.the same goes for the libyans,who got their collective asses whooped by the chadians in the 80s.Unlike us (doubt that?The Germans in East Africa in world war one, the Japanese in burma- WW2,NPLF in liberia, RUF in sudan, and currently the militants in the Niger-delta).They also don't wield as much influence on the world stage as we do to three things:

-our robust foreign policy

- our economy (2nd largest in africa)

-our oil

If i may also add, they've not even done so much as we have when it comes to peacekeeping/enforcement/protection of other african countries sovereignity as we Nigerians have.Even Ghana has done a far better job than them.

Now,i'm not saying that we're the best.God knows we have a lot of flaws, thanks due to corruption and the past military rule. But we've been trying to fix these flaws.I can proudly say that our military boasts of very many intelligent officers and men trained not only in the country,but also in prestigious military academy in the US,UK,FRANCE, INDIA,PAKISTAN,ISREAL ,CANADA were they tend to excel.Today, unlike most african countries, our fire power has improved.Due to the conflicts in the niger-delta, and the dangerous world we currently live in,we've also had to change our doctrine in the way we fight, embracing trainings such as counter insurgency (COIN), better ways of intelligence gathering (ELINT and HUMINT), hostage rescue, command and control ,etc.Our national war college also happens to be one of the best in africa,with officers from other african,and even european countries attending it.

Anyway, we still have a lot to fix in the military, especially the airforce.As you know, air power plays a major role in modern conflict.

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The disrepair and lack of battle readiness is a legacy of the many decades of military misrule. During that era senior officers were so politicised and engaged in the pursuit of money that military issues were neglected. The air force is in bad shape because it was deliberately starved of funds from 1986 onwards as "punishment" for the alleged involvement of air force officers in the 1985 Vatsa coup plot. Contrary to popular opinion, military coups have badly damaged the military.

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Forget the Nigerian Army. Like our national football team the green eagles, they are over-rated. Years of neglet by successive goverments have destroyed profesionalism and decipline. I doubt we can even defeat Cameroon if war were to break out between both countries today.

Babangida and Abacha deliberately weakened the armed forces to preserve their illegitimate goverments. Many people in the army today did not join to fight any wars. It used to be the shortest route to power until money-miss road politicians came onboard.

Peacekeeping is a different ball game from open warefare. I have little respect for our soldiers unfortunately, especially the officer class. They have not earned it. Not in the Niger Delta. Not in the streets where they are no more than bullies. Not anywhere.

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Our country's military is not just the sole power in west africa, but the mainstabilising force here and in Africa as a whole. And that is a fact.

the egyptian, libyan and south african forces could be considered stronger than the nigerian army. stop with the generalizations

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We sure have an army especially our infantry soldiers.

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6- Apart from a very few countries in africa (South Africa,Libya,Egypt), the Nigerian navy operates operated a hi-tech system of unmanned arieal and armed surface (maritime) vehicles (UAVs) supplied by Elbit of Israel and is currently operational in the niger-delta theatre.

7-I accept the fact that most of our combat aircrafts are grounded, thanks to corruption.But most people don't know these:

a-we just bought some F-7NG fighter aircrafts which is a modern chinese version of the Mig 21 with sophisticted avionics suit. At the same time, the Mig 21 has been slated for repairs and upgrade

b-the upgrade of our c-130 fleet is already up and running (one aircraft has already been returned),and i believe that of the G-333 aircraft has already been completed.

c-the B0-105 helicopters are to be withrawn from service. The same goes for the Jaguar. Vintage aircrafts like the mig-17 are in storage. However, i hope that they begine the repairs of our fleet of PUMA helicopters as they are really important troop carriers. The same goes for our alpha-jets

d- orders for a squadron of A-109 helicopters and 2 ATR maritime planes have been placed.

8- the nigerian navy had already begun the repairs of our frigrates,and corvettes at the naval dockyard.thanks to the civilain and naval engineers, we've begun to patrol the gulf of guinea again.

So to everyone who has a grudge against our men and women in the military,you may not like them,but you will respect them.

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@Sijien

I was born and brought up there. Some of them were my school/classmates while some met me there and became my friends when they joined the force.

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@Mariory

Sorry to burst your bubble, but contrary to poular Nigerian Opinion, people do not exist solely to mess up wiki entries, and the entire open source encyclopaedia thingy works pretty well.

A recent BBC research showed Wikipedia to be as accurate as the Encyclopaedia Britannica on scientific issues.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4530930.stm

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@Mariory

They don't have anything more than i said. Ilhave lived in different Airforce bases north, south, east and west in nigeria; and i'm still living in one of the bases, so i know what i'm saying. Take it or leave it. Most of those Aircrafts listed in wikipedia don't exist in the NAF inventory. It's pure propaganda. Go to their combat base at Makurdi, PH, Yola and Kainji and visit their hangars and see for yourself, fleet of grounded jet figthers and combat helicopters.

It may also interest you to know that most pilots in the NAF have not flown any plane for more than 15 years now while some have been grounded and will never fly in the NAF again because there are no aircrafts for them to fly; especially those who were type-rated as MIG-21 and Jaguar jet pilots as well as BO-105 helicopter pilots.

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Sorry texazzpete but, quoting wikipedia these days automatically disqualifies your argument. Although you are right. The MIG 21s and SEPECATS are to be grounded.

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It's a well known fact that the Air force and Navy were severly weakened by Abacha and babangida's regime.

I dunno who's talking about our MiGs, but our stock of MiG 17s and 21s are pretty much grounded now. Our alpha jets are a joke, unable to withstand any modern fighter in aerial combat.

From Wikipedia

The Nigerian Air Force is the air arm of the Nigerian military. It is one of the largest in West Africa, consisting of 100+ fighter aircraft including SEPECAT Jaguars, Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21s, and Dassault-Dornier Alpha Jets, and a handful of Russian made bombers and military transport aircraft. However in recent years many of them are no longer airworthy.

In 2005 it was reported that Nigeria has approved $251 million USD to purchase 15 Chengdu F-7 fighters from China. The deal includes 12 F-7NI (NI = Nigeria) single seat fighters, and 3 FT-7NI dual-seat trainers. [1] The $251 ($252?) million package includes $220 million for 15 aircraft, plus $32 million for armaments, including 20 live PL-9C AAM, 10 training PL-9 rounds, unguided rockets, and 250 kg bombs.

Nigeria had previously considered a $160 million deal to refurbish its fleet of MiG-21's by Aerostar/Elbit Systems, IAI, and RSK MiG. However, with the new F-7 purchase, the government of Nigeria has decided to scrap the refurbish option and grounded its fleet of MiG 21's.

[Aircraft

Combat aircraft

15 Chengdu F-7 (12 F-7NI, 3 FT-7NI)

32 MiG-21 (grounded, to be retired)

18 SEPECAT Jaguar (grounded, to be retired)

Trainers

60 RV-6

12 MB-339

24 Aero L-39

37 Bulldog T1

24 Dassault-Breguet/Dornier Alpha Jet

20 Do 27

36 Do 28

Transport aircraft

5 G.222 (Possibly being refurbished by Italy) [3]

1 Boeing 707

1 Boeing 727

1 Boeing 737

1 BAe 125

2 Dassault Falcon 900

9 Do 228

6 Fokker F27

1 Fokker F28

1 Gulfstream II

1 Gulfstream IV

9 C-130

Helicopters

14 Hughes 300

24 BO 105

6 Mi-24

9 Mi-34

Transport helicopters

11 Eurocopter Puma

12 Eurocopter Super Puma

4 Mi-8 [/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000]

All our SEPECAT JAguars and MiGs are to be scrapped!

Yes, we have the largest air force in west africa, but that isn't sayin gmuch

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So you think the NAF will expose the locations of all their combat aircrafts to you and put them in plain sight for everyone to see?

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shey dem soboma george don dey beg

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