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Obama, Can He Make History?

Obama is my man rght, but have you guys ever heard of the acronym WASP, it simply means:

W= White

A= Anglo

S= Saxon

P= Protestant

WASP = White Anglo-Saxon Protestant is the unwritten rule of American presidency.

That is to say for you to have a shot at American presidency, you must be WHITE, OF ENGLISH- IRISH ORIGIN AND YOU MUST BE A PROTESTANT meaning YOU MUST BE A BAPTIST OR ANGLICAN OR METHODIST, ALL THIS CHURCHES ARE THE OFFSHOOT OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND, THE PEOPLE THAT FOUNDED THE AMERICAN NATION.

It will surprise you to know that the first ever President to break that unwritten rule was JF Kennedy, however he qualified for greater part except that he was a Catholic, meaning not a Protestant and he was assasinated for that, despite the fact that he rejuvinated the American Dream and was well beloved by all but the powers that be believed he did not meet the criteria of an American presidency and as such all investigation into his death to date has been shrouded in mystery.

Am not saying Obama cannot win a US presidency but if he did he may be assasinated. That was what Colins Powell the former chairman Joint Chief of Staff of the United States Armed forces feared that made him chicken out despite his popularity above Bush then and in the Army with all the heroics of a war veteran.

Again, why did you think Algore was rigged out of the presidency despite the impressive performance of their admninistration (Clinton/Algore presidency) ofcourse Clinton administration was one of the best if not the best in American history, do you think people did not want the good work to contineu, Bush came in now American economy is heading for recession and everybody is now looking for a bail out.

Algore was robbed in broad day light in what has become has become a watershed in American History. But he was not robbed becuase he wasn't good but because Algore is Greek and not the Anglo-Saxon . Anglo-Saxon is the projenitor of the English race.

This hostory is dated back to the middle age, when the Catholic church persecuted the reformers and Martin Luther and his followers and because of the Episcopal powers of the Papacy then that made the like of Britain, France, Russia to liberate themselves from the Vatican, the fall out was the creation of the church of England and the Anglican Communion, the reformers that protest against the Vatican were protected by the governments of the mentioned nations , infact the protestant later converged in Britain where the English government sponsored their trip to the New World as America was popularly known then, it was the escape from Vatican or Catholic church that made US to be refers as the Free land from whch the concept of American freedom was derived from, A Freedom to serve God unmolested by the machination of the Roman Catholic Church, these protestant are sometimes reffered as the Puritans and are highly conservative people.

Later on Britain colonised American which consequently altered the the economic and political power equation in favour of the English-Irish nationalities among numerous European settlers in America, this group grow to be come what General Esienhower called Military Industrial Complex otherwised known as the Republican Party. This people see themselves as the custodian of the American nation, check out the most advantaged groups in America today and you will suprise what you see. That is why US and great Britain goes hands in hands on any issue whather negative or positive at the international level.

there were many struggle throughout American history between the Catholic church and the Church of England that necessitated the need for that unwritten rule as American earliest settlers were the Protestant people that protested against the Vatican Spiritual Apostasy during the middle age and the period of the Inquisition that got many Protestant burnt at the stake as heretics, hence the WASP code was aimed to ensure that nobody except white Anglo-saxon Protestant will have a shot at the American presidency as it is obvious that whoever among the various European nationality or settlers will influnce the whole world.

You can have Italian in big hotels buz, German, Russian Americans etc everywhere but when it comes to the White House beware , its for the Anglo-Saxon , you can check history of the American Presidency. That is why it is possible for a father and his son to rule a counntry of almost 300million people and we re now closer to see husband and wife repeating the same thing.

Well, am not an historian but i ve an inquisitive mind that made me read books about everything and anything. Please don't mind the long story, i felt people should understand where American is coming from and how it got to this stage in history.

NB: I initially sent this post as a reply but I felt i should post it as a new topic as it may interest some people that have interest in American presidency.

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I dont want to talk about the blood test again cos some people already enlightened you (hopefully) about that. However, I will be happy if you can tell me that you will call a child white if his/her mother is black and the father is white.

You seem to suddenly know what my mind is with regards to my own country. Perhaps if you change your mindset, you'll better appreciate that other people might reason differently from the way you reason. You do seem to assume a lot of things and this suggests to me that you're narrow-minded: I may be wrong but I strongly believe that for now

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It is good to get the basic information on what kinds of political candidates you wish to support so you do not sound as ignorant as this:

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/02/20/clinton-v-obama-legislative-accomplishments/

The reason I say--please get the facts and choose wisely, for one is as good as the other! All look the same!

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Thanks for the reminder however, we all know that Obama is an African first b4 being an American. Afteral he bears his father's name and called AFRICAN-american. Let's not deviate from the topic please.

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I think both mother's and father's blood flows in any child--through the power of genetics. The only reason the "paternity" test is done is to find out who the real dad is in case of "doubt". In most cases, there is no question who the mother is. There are tests to find out "maternity" status too. It also involves blood and other bodily fluids.

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Ladies and Gents my name is JL Shash a seasoned writer and author for journals and magazines in the UK and USA. I have written a lot of articles on various topics especially that of Democrats in US elections I have read a lot of all your insightful commentaries and I would love to invite you to my newly launched website www.mistawrite.com to post comments and opinions in the 'Discussion' forum.

Regarding Obama and Clinton this is my opinion in the article I wrote on my website in the below url link (feel free to join the discussion forums because I personally feel Obama is on his way to making history), Thank you all

http://www.mistawrite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=60:us-elections-gender-or-race&catid=42:articles&Itemid=63

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Barack Obama after winning Wisconsin - 1

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Barack Obama after winning Wisconsin - 2

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Texazzpete,

it is a waste of valuable time discussin with an incurable critic like you, you re always in every section proving and disproofing, anyway, inability to respect others opinion and temptation to criticize to the point of calling fellow landers "" speaks volumes of your personality and reflect a weakness of character and a negative mindset. Intolerance of others opinion itself betrays a deep rooted character problem that stems from inner insecurity and selfishness, and consequently a defensive and destructive attitude that never see good thing about other people.

Everything is learnt, am sure you can learn through conscious effort to upgrade your mind from the realm of mental negativity to a realm of mental positivity. I actually would ve disregard your reply if I know that's what you do in every section of this forum.

I promise, I won't take you up on this again, but I leave you the word of a great thinker Socrates:

"He who knows not and knows not that He knows not is a Fool !

He who knows not and knows that He knows not is a wise Man !

A word is enough for the wise !

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i once said that americans would rather see a woman/animal in the white house than a black or jew. i must say that his victories have challenged that pessimistic idea thoroughly. however, i will still wait to see the final 'drama' that will unfold, because for all of america's claim to transracial equality, they still have their idiosyncracies and their so-called exemplary democracy is not so exemplary.

even if he wins the democrats ticket, i will not be surprised if they still pull a rabbit trick at the elections proper.

i hope he wins; at least for the sake of all blacks/minority races who are truly the bedrock of america's economy and successes, and yet have not ever dared dream for the presidency. even if he doesn't, he will have made a strong point: if we contribute to building the american dream, then we should be allowed a chance to truly live it.

go obama! you rock!

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Be it in sports (check major international clubs), be it in governance (remember Koffi Anan) even in religion etc BLACK PEOPLE ARE NATURAL LEADERS/GURUS. Forget the fact that slavery has affected us negatively, look at the African continent as A GUN, observe NIGERIA as the TRIGER.

GO OBAMA! NO SHAKING!!

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Folks, I just came back from the Obama rally at the Toyota Center in Houston. It was historic!

Ladies and gentlemen, please rise to welcome the winner of the Winsconsin primaries, and the next President of the United States of America,

I felt a part of history. His speech was even more inspiring standing few feet away from me. Obama in flesh and blood.Texas, Yes we can!

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In every single argument we've had in this forum, i have proven you wrong.

I have provided concrete proof where you had none. I have provided logic where you had none.

Your sole defence is to call people - who are so obviously more intellectually endowed than yourself - 'dumb'.

Even a cursory look at our posting history, a comparative analysis of our diction and a look at the activities we engage in will show anyone that you've less than half the intelligence i command. From the 'Phones' section to the 'Games' section, you've exposed your stupidity over and over again.

I listen to the wise when i see them. And from where i stand you've got many more years to be wise. As it stands, you're an .

Frankly, all you are at this moment is a time wasting diversion.

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texazzpete

so u still come around this section ranting like a pig

like i always say anybody listening 2 you is obviously DUMB!

you claim 2 know things but you dont know a damn thing.

why dont you ever respect people's opinion?

you must learn how  2 listen to the wise so you can be wise like them and not this DUMB attitude you potray.

  GO! hillary; ,m with you all the way.

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This is not a question of whether he can make History, He has already made History!

Obama all the way!

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Is the burden then on me to provide an enlightened view to a totally absurd write up?

intelligent discourse means that both sides of the conversation are intelligent and logical.

You should be educated enough to know that you back up any allegations/accusations you make.

You make the following unsubstantiated claims

1. JFK killed because he wasn't protestant.

2. The early settlers in America left England because of interference from the Vatican

3. Al Gore was rigged out of the US presidential elections.

4. The republican party consists of the most advantaged people in the US.

5. There were many struggles between the catholic Church and the protestants 'throughout American history'

There are numerous more hair-brained theories you produced that should not have survived even a cursory attempt at research,

You, my friend, are full of hot air. You self-importantly claimed to have reached this revelation after reading many books, yet when it came to time to prove your drivel, you quote two writers in nigerian Guardian. Why?

If you really are as well-read as you claim (that's debateable, considering the fact that your article is full of pseudo-intellectual claptrap) you would have done some research. And if you think you truly deserve an intellectual debate, then hold up your end. Write an article that shows some appreciable level of intelligence, not this mish-mash of shadowy conspiracy theories and hidden plots.

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@texazzpete,

what is more than intellectual shallowness and bankcruptcy other than for you critizise a write up when you could not substantiate it or take the pain of presenting a contrary and enlightened view, you might as well hold your peace forever, since you lack basic fact or perhaps you re too lazy to embark on necessary intellectual exercise to disproof my post. A sweeping comdemnation is least expected of any scholar that worth its salt, you sound more like a borehole theorist.

As for the catholic church, i don't think you re more of a catholic than myself,, even a beginner iin Reformation history will no doubt attest to the facts.

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Obama has made a believer out of me. Bleep IMPOSSIBILITY.

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@topic

OBAMA HAS ALREADY MADE HISTORY!

Woe to all nay-sayers and doom-sayers, for they shall be proved wrong!

The word 'impossibility' exists ONLY in the dictionary.

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Gaskiya, this is the best statement on this very thread.

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First I honestly don't think Nigeria Guardian newspaper is the best place to learn about the nitty gritty of American politics just as it is very wrong to rely on a local american newspaper for the nitty gritty of what obtains in Nigerian politics.

2. Historians and those who break history hardly ever conform to the same ideas, Obama's activities will be for historians of tomorrow to learn while historians of today will be the last to embrace Obama because he defies all they have ever learnt.

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We should all be careful bout this Obama chap, he strikes me as someone with a lot of hidden extreme tendercies, From his drug use days its clear that he smoked pot well(its evident from his lips), Obama mite jst be an islamic sympathist in the democratic party, Even though our hearts are filled with joy that we may be amongst the generation that witnessed a coloured man become a US prez, we need to be sure of Barracks commitment to the ideals of a free world which i believe in.

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@Segzyjoe

I sincerely doubt the two educated Gentlemen posited anything as loony as what you just brought up.

I don't give a damn what a Nobel laurate says. Al Gore is a Nobel Laurate, does that make him absolutely correct in everything he'll say in the future?

YOU and your disciples are great examples to show that education doesn't neccessarily make one wise. You are probably either a graduate or an undergraduate, yet you're making extremely ill-thought out statements.

I sincerely care that my fellow Nigerians are not willing to use their brains to tackle issues. I despise intellectual laziness, it shouldn't have taken any time at all for you to check your wild theories concerning the catholic church and the puritans, yet you reply me trying to legitimize your silly arguments.

You have a right to air your arguments, to make your opinion known. I haven't tried to stifle you, i have not reported your post to Seun for deletion.

All i have done is to point out to you the stupidity of your words. Bite me.

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@seabiotic,

thats what it was meant to be, if not, i mean if it was glarin for discernin American public you can be sure those behind the "unwritten rule" would ve been challenged long time ago or atleast their strategies nuetralised by now, i hope this happens as Obama is now on the threshold of history

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@ texazzpete

rather than blowing hot air, atleast this forum offers you the opportunity of free speech to air your view on this issue, perhaps we can learn from your extensive knowledge of American presidency or history.

By the way callin fellow N/landers "" may look like an insult to you all because they don't share you point of view and everybody must share your view.

Maybe you can update yourself by reading what Bolaji Akinyemi and Oyebade said in the Gaurdian of Wednesday 13 Feb, with regards to the WASP criterion as a condition of American presidency, atleast the opinions of the two gentlemen who are professor emeritus of political science and International law respectively could serve as a guidiance for us. just two days ago a British nobel laurete made a statement about possible assasination of Obama should the man go ahead and win in the US presidential election, maybe she is cracy too, or is she an as you would say? Maybe you re unaware that historical antecedent has a way of shapin socio-economic and political phenomenons.

Well, since you re timid enough not to present a contrary and logical arguement other than a sweeping condemnation of my post, I think I better not dissipate valauble time joining issue with you,

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Obama !  Obama !  Obama !

Make I quote Abraham Lincoln : ,  " A new nation, concieved in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal ",

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Obama !  Obama !  Obama !

Africa man don ready to enter America White House, and no be say I dey dream am because of too much drink.

Make una meet me for palmie shed make dem serve everybody today as I don deposit money already.

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It's about time we had a hunk of hershey chocolate bar with almonds,in the white house.

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he has already made history, Its time we elect a black dude , I am sick and tired of all these "it aint possible" crap, yes we can people!!!!

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Yikes!! Another one!

BTW, that wasn't an insult. . .

Nigerians should learn how to appreciate intelligent discourse, and spurn senseless theories. This should ring as FALSE to any reasonably well-informed person, and it shocks me that passably educated people can believe that shyte.

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yes he can!

he is getting everyone to his side now!

he has clearly won the washington primaries overwhelmingly and overtook bill and hillary.

so y not?

mccan is facing a really tough opposition in obama.

shikena.

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Why you come dey insult them? you sabi dem before?

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I don't know which is worse. A raving lunatic saying a) Kennedy was assassinated because he wasn't a protestant and b) Puritans were protestants

. . .or the fact that three idiots above me actually are taking this maniac seriously.

This is why i'll ensure my kids READ WIDELY when they are growing up, so they don't believe any bullshit they read off the net.

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yes i believe he can,his making waves

already.

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As long as there is life, anything is possible.

And deprived people or races will continue to aim for the 'impossible'.

BUT WE CAN ONLY WAIT TO TELL THE TALE.

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Wow!! all i can say is this is really profound.

lets keep our fingers crossed and watch as the drama unfolds,

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We are on the verge of History. Whether he wins the nomination and goes on to win the presidency or not, we have found reason to believe, realized the power of courage, and audacity of hope.

I was at his rally this week and it was awesome.

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Whether he wins or not we have all won. What he has done so far is to give us hope and make us believe in ourselves and the power of courage. An African father and a caucasian mother. He has the make up of a true patriot.

I believe we are on the verge of history and I want to be part of it.

I attended his rally this week and it was awesome.

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