Pastor Enouch Adeboye of Redeemed Christian Church of Christ For President 2011. Would You Vote Him? lets talk.
Pastor Enouch Adeboye of Redeemed Christian Church of Christ For President 2011. Would You Vote Him? lets talk.
RELIGION AND HYPOCRISY IN NIGERIA
Religious People, Corrupt Nation
Wonder why Nigeria, a religious nation with bountiful resources is failing? The reason is not far fetched from hypocrisy. About 90% of Nigerians are either Christians or Muslims, yet we live as if God lives far away. A walk able street has at least five different churches, and Christians never miss services, crusades and vigil, yet corruption is the order of the day. A nation where people respect and fear their religious leaders more than God, where is the place of God? The answer is evident in what they do.
Nowadays, pastors emphasize more on miracles, tithes and offerings rather than true righteousness and the kingdom of God- the more the people, the more the tithes and the richer the pastor becomes. A nation where pastors and their wives have police escorts, I wonder if they believe in “the Lord is my shepherd?” it is so saddening that people fight for positions in churches; the poor are giving little or no attention while the rich are exalted. The people we find in our churches and mosques are the same people we find in our society that is corrupt.
With all these, the ordinary man will do anything possible to get rich at all cost just to be counted among. Altitudinal change is what we need in Nigeria. This should be preached and observed in our churches, mosques, offices, schools, homes, markets and on our streets. It starts with the pastors and you.
Dayo,RibaduFan,Yemi,dayokanu,Jakumo,romeo,Lagosboy and Martian
Really every name above are right,nobody want to take chances and silence is killing us in nigerian, been a man of God doesn't make you fit as a president of a country beside God know his servant we don't know we only see and every one is in pains, They have cheat us enough. This How to start the Foundation, Freedom of speech Please,
Make d man go siddon jare. The old christian mission of old achieved more by a hundred fold compared to this thieves masqurading as men of God.
Revival everyday Revival everynight
Pastor life dey better d people dey suffer
Wonder Wonder Wonder Wonder!!!!!
Pastor Adeboye gave his blessings to OBJ and also Yaradua and that is one of my grudges with him. Bode George took Yaradua to the Adeboye before the election to solicit his support which he gave. After the election when the good people of Nigeria were complaining of the massive rigging some few men of God spoke against it but as usual Pastor Adeboye kept mum like he did during the OBJ era!!!
"Those who keep silent at times of chaos and crisis deserves to be put in the hottest part of hell" Dante said not Lagosboy.
"We Will Remember not the Words of our Enemies, but the Silence of our Friends’" Martin Luther King said and not Lagosboy
I remeber how rev Gbonigi voiced out and other christian leaders.
What has he done with the country congregation he already has under his care??
HE is like the president of the federal republic of RCCG, and I am yet to see what the hype about him is all about.
For a Man who grosses over 50million Naira weekly in non-taxable tolls collection, I am yet to see that money reflect in the lives of his followers.
Nigeria does not need God, we need Sound decision makers. Not people who will call a National Prayer conference to address pressing issues.
Religion and state should not mix.
I honestly like the man because he looks humble. However, the bolded is something that's baffled me for a long time as well.
He doesn't ever preach about holiness and living righteously. Everything he seems to talk about is directed towards getting material things from God. This explains why there is so much rot in Nigeria. they go to church and they are encouraged to get rich but they never get to hear their pastors tell them they should live righteously. As soon as they step out of the church, they are recieving bribes and commiting crimes.
Christianity is about our spirituality, not about how much wealth we can get; that's what I thought the Bible says throughout.
Everyone on the forum has agreed that Mr. Adeboye is a very infuential person. That 'award' by Newsweek also went to Oprah, Gates, Bin Laden and Blair. While Oprah and Gates have used a lot of their billions to help the poor in America and other parts of the world, Mr. Adeboye's apologetics have decided that he should not do same, rather he should run for president. He is a wealthy man and is not known for his charitable efforts. How best can a man be fulfilled when he helps his fellow humans.
He makes people believe has nothing to loose because he has mansions in heaven or that when Jesus asks him on the last day if he fed him when he was hungry he would say a bold YES. However, his refusal to use his influence and wealth to affect the lives of his poverty striken members makes one wonder if he actually believes in an afterlife. This is a man that believes the poverty suffered by most of his followers is a result of non-tithe payment when everyone else(apart from his believers) is aware of the real reason. He also believes stolen funds in Nigeria can't be traced without divine intervention. Maybe when he becomes president, we would wait for divine intervention for the solution to all our problems.
I would not vote for him as the question posed on the topic of this thread asks because I do not think he is genuine enough to lead this country. Better the scoundrels in power than a new one with millions of people that will kiss his a-hole if he asks them to.
Nigeria, a country where anything, everything happens. Pastors couldn't get enough! Adegboye for president,Okotie for vice president! There are nothing to show for these guys godliness, things aren't certainly getting better. Everyone's dying to become pastors seeing the lavish lifestyles these guys are living in. The government failed to regulate anything that's why they rose to the heights of even imposing taxes on people and every penny of it were kept for themselves or at least under thier names! The Nigerian pastors abroad would never get those chances because they are regulated as to how many religious centres are allowed in a community, what have you to say to that? these people brought the religion to you! Many Nigerian churches in UK, for example, hire pubs (beer parlours) for their Sunday services!
Adeboye and his bretheren, have nothing in common with those selfless missionaries who came to Africa, at great personal peril to bring the gospel and develpoment to Africa. This is not the gospel they brought. I have not seen the "NEWSWEEK 50 MOST INFLUENCIAL PEOPLE LIST" but I'm sure he has'nt used his so called influence for the betterment of the common man in Nigeria. By speaking out against social ills and championing the cause of the needy and voiceless, issues which Jesus himself would 've been interested in. It seems to me he Adeboye has a knack for getting in good with politicians but hey, you have to be a great politician to balance the often conflicting interests of members othe RCCG Organisation, If Nigeria Improves just a bit and the demand for hope declines, Adeboye and the like will be irrelivant but then again he could just adjust his game to fit in with the spirit of the times.
the man has turned to a hypocrite, worse than our politicians as portrayed here
when did you hear him preach about and practice righteousness, which exalts a nation?
just get rich, no matter who you kill directly or indirectly (embezzling hospital funds for example) along the way.
sometimes you wonder if these pastors are not doing bad covers of 50 Cents' song- Get Rich or Die Trying!
My glass is raised in a toast to your poetic and true words, Samori.
Happy New Year to all who can distill the truth from bullchit, and for the rest of you, the Adeboye Space Shuttle, which, by the way, can fly for 2000 miles without consuming any form of fuel, is ready to transport you to Heavenly Nirvana, so please have your check-books at the ready. Praise the Lord !
The truth is Adeboye and the like represent a breed of religious con men. People who have mastered thr art of marketing (False) Hope. I f you observr closely you'll see that the propertiy gospel on which Adeboye and the like have built their religious empire, boasting numerous branches, media companies , Schools and other investments is nothing more than religious capitalism. This system is only loyal to the bottom line and really has no tranfromational quality. Just look at Nigeria, the majority of church goers are simply looking for a way out of one problems or the other.Adeboye and the like know this and continue to love-vendor them. My father was educated by missionaries, I
Since when has it become rude in supporting a just course and having an opinion that conflicts with yours? Neither was Kobojunkie supporting the man but instead trying to make a case on his suitability for the presidency. Kobojunkie hasn't specifically said that the man is suitabe for presidency (yet). I must say though, that your post however is none the more objective.
Speaking of evidence, Pataki, your own relatively unobstructed drive through the Lagos Expressway on one specific occasion cannot on its own merit constitute statistically significant evidence that the monthly traffic meltdown which normally occurs there has ceased to exist. Your experience merely proves that you drove through the area in question at "low tide", when possibly the cult followers were inside their fleecing sheds, and not yet swarming the road for their return journey to Lagos.
You have correctly identified various other reasons why the Lagos to Ibadan Expressway has mutated into the Parking Lot from Hell, but the combined effect of all the other blockages you mentioned above still pales in comparison with the tidal-wave of traffic inflicted monthly on that highway by Pastor Eunuch's church grounds. Since Eunuch is also the primary offender with the longest history of obstructing a federal highway anywhere in Nigeria, there is no harm in identifying him as an unrepentant public enemy, particularly if he really is starting to nurse hallucinations of running for president of Nigeria in 2011.
Pataki, the mere fact that such a horrendous and deadly traffic jam has been allowed to reccur monthly for the past quarter century is proof enough that the person and organisation at the root of the problem have so far been granted immunity from prosecution over this ongoing crime against society.
Video evidence showing Pastor Eunuch chatting away on the phone with a sitting Nigerian president is NOT necessary, since the consequences of such silent influence over Nigeria's power structure are disastrously evident every month when the main economic artery of the country is blocked, gravely endangering all who find themselves mired in the trap.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, KJ, those day-long traffic jams caused every month by Pastor Eunuch's cult followers DO kill numerous innocent motorists, just as surely as if Big Daddy himself strolled along the lines of trapped motorists, flailing away at them with a gleaming machete and screaming "Praise the Lord" as the heads toppled.
The fact that all those casualties met their deaths in vehicular accidents and armed robbery assaults DIRECTLY attributable to being trapped in gridlock caused by Pastor Eunuch's monthly hysteria-fest does not in some magical way exonerate the originator of the problem from causative liability, as a court of law will one day establish.
@Dayokanu, I know you want so much to be right in this case, but the fact is this man has yet to be accused of stealing from, or killing anyone. You have made have however made yourself judge and jury on who the people can or cannot give what is their's to. These people more than likely already pay their share of state taxes, so why feel you also need to tell them what to do with their personal wealth? These people are giving him their loot FREELY. He is simply a man with ideas that the people are willing to pay for/Donate to. You may not like it but fact remains that it is not your business what another man chooses to do with his hard earned money. All you have done so far is throw around unsubstantiated claims on the most part.
This man is a pastor, he may be a fleecer but that is what he is doing is not against the law as he is not STEALING from the people. They walk to him every sunday to give to him. They do not even wait to get a reciept to secure their portion is documented. That ought to tell you even more.
Enough already!! If Adeboye is what the people want, give them Adeboye. Focus on those who are really stealing from your children; your mother and your father -- those who you have in government and let this rest already!.
Let me try explain this another way. Do you know that even with the information we have on the harm that tobacco smoke can cause, thousands around the world decide to smoke for the first time each day. Many continue to smoke, even with knowledge that they might end up dead of lung cancer or some smoking related disease.
Are the tobacco companies to blame for the new well informed people who choose to smoke? No. Should the tobacco companies be demonized?? I don’t think so. Should the people be deprived their right to smoke cigarette? I hope we never get to that, ever. Don’t even get me started on second hand smoke and how passerby’s can get lung cancer from exposure to that. So what then do you do? These people know of the possible consequences of their actions but continue to smoke each and every stick they can and they enjoy each drag too. Are you going to treat that case as you have chosen to treat this one? Or are you going to respect the right of the people to do with what is theirs as they choose?
Since the followers are not complaining argument is infantile.
The citizens of Bayelsa supported Alams vociferously even protested that did not stop him from going to jail. These are the people whose money he stole right.
Were Nigerian Govt not taking Panadol for Bayelsans Headache??
I can kill as long as the victims family are not complaining right?
the term "arguing" has a negative connotation so i want to shy away from that.
i'm not asking for him to cheapen the education but to provide subsidies or financial aid to students that can't afford tuition. It seems you are content with the status-quo just because others do it so it's fine for Adeboye to do it. I find it amusing you compare a Catholic primary school to a University. Lots of Nigerian parents can put their kids to primary schools ( which are much more cheaper than universities), the same can't said be for their children's university education.
The way the man runs his church and obstructs a public highway is up for public criticism.
why make the assumption if you don't know
well daddy go and many other religious leaders are buddies with political heavyweights and have repeatedly stopped any attempts to reallocate the land. These churches have used politicians for their OWN benefits rather than the interests of the common man they supposedly preach to. Religious bodies in Nigeria are part of the top and not separate from it. A look at the side roads leading to the camp and the parking situation of the convention grounds is evident that Redeem could have given a damn about the traffic hell hole it was about to cause
your argument basically i should mind my business, While my argument is that Nigeria won't improve if people continue to be conned in their quest for prosperity and blessing from heavens. Why would the brainwashed complain. do you know how a personality cult works? the evangelical movement has taken over southern Nigeria with little to show for it but hey we can brag about haven't the biggest chapel right.
Oh really. redeemers university has financial aid??
regardless of how much the pope is criticized, Catholic charities are much more visible than what these Evangelical churches do. I would answer questions about my involvement in charities if the question was whether would you vote for bawomolo.
it's a conversation not an argument
This campaign reminds me of a story in Brazil, Rio De Janeiro state to be precise.
The evangelical in question was a chap called Anthony Garotinho, firebrand and reformer
elected on a stringent anti-corruption platform.
Unfortunately, his most infamous act was removing a Police chief who was clashing with entrenched
corrupt elements in one of the most corrupt forces in the world.
He soon became a joke, and now a political pariah.
He is currently fighting illegal campaign funding charges.
Not that I would suggest that our dear G.O would ever be implicated in such a mess if
he was to ever reach the exalted position of President.
catholic universities in chicago such as Loyola and Depaul provide Financial Aid but that's standard in Western Nations anyway. The fact that private religious universities in Nigeria are much more expensive than the average is worrisome. I wish i could find the study that spoke about this.
So rather than address the problem, you turn a blind eye to it just because it happens in other places. Why should people of God act just like corrupt heathens.
Alongside, to the traffic issue, is the Lagos - Ibadan Expressway, the only road in Nigeria that has traffic issues? What alternative source of transportation is available for commuters to ease off the traffic issues not only on that road but across the nation Nigeria?
You are clearly raising an issue here, but your misgivings are in the wrong direction.
You wrote this to impress on me the need to include you amongst the "NL intelligentia'.
Well I think you are brilliant and you possess some literary prowess! But intelligent? No Mr Jakumo, No!
Reason been, your posts lack the basic tenets of intelligence- Logical reasoning, Abstract thinking, Subterranean Comprehension and most importantly, open mindedness. However, I restate the fact that you are very brilliant. But Intelligent? No Mr Jakumo, No!
And, yes I permit you. However, b4 you proceed, ensure that those vestigial properties have undergone evolution to a state-of-being where logical reasoning and abstract thinking mix freely with open mindedness.
For crying out loud, Newsweek recognises Adeboye as an influential world figure alongside Obama, Clintons, Bill Gates,Oprah and the likes and you are here telling me about Law of Thermodynamics!! Pleeease!
when the man was suffering(that is if he did) d people insulting him and his ministry today were no where to be found,when he was living in one bedroom aptt(that is if he did)where were some of d big "mouthers" now that hes made it in life,we r all talking shits here,u r an atheist,so u don't believe in d bible but this same bible said that the power to make wealth has been given to us already,so since hes d mans time,why wont people mind their biz and drop envy?u people prefer poverty to wealth,if a man of God is rich the first thing that comes to d mind of some people is,"hes to rich to be a man of GOD jeeeeezzz
listen d not minding your business attitude is d case here,rephrase ur statement abegii,nigerians never mind their business that is why d country is in a mess,u know d problems we nigerian have? "trying to take off scales from other peoples eyes,with ours still intact and blocking our view"
if hes d person that will lead d country well then he has my vote already,let him go ahead,no matter how hard he tries,he can never please everybody
Papa Browne I am relieved and delighted to hear that you have appointed yourself as the final arbiter of intelligence assessment here in the Nairaland forum. My miserable life would be entirely devoid of meaning and purpose if I did not have a Big Daddy like you or Pastor Eunuch to approve and direct my every heartbeat and inhalation of oxygen.
Papa, I must also confess that I had been toying with the idea of taxing my vestigial grey-matter with an attempt at a few original thought processes, but now that you have identified yourself as my philosophical and intellectual mentor, may I hereby seek your permission and blessing to engage in this strenuous and risky activity unsupervised ?
Also, how much longer do you think I will be required to wear this white conical dunce cap and sit in the corner like this ?
I've followed and read through this thread and I've noticed something striking!
The supporters of Adeboye are far more intelligent and objective in their analysis than those against the Pastor.
Since the supporters of Adeboye(Gettysburg, Kobojunkie, busybein) are much more intelligent than those against him(Dayokanu, Jakumo, B.O.S.S) (at least on Nairaland), then I can confidently infer that the Pastor has a very strong and positive influence on his followers.
They are intelligent enough to know whether or not they are been conned, and none of them have said they've been conned, but they keep loving him and defending him even more. That tells you they are gaining so much from his leadership.
Your points are very illogical and narrow-minded. Newsweek has said it all!Take it or leave it, they are the most reputable magazine alongside Time.
And did you notice that Adeboye, Obama and Oprah are the only Blacks on the list? Thats something peeps!
Carefully reading that Newsweek article about Pastor Eunuch Adeboye, the key passage that stands out above all the other seemingly positive comments made about this snake-oil salesman comes right at the end of the Newsweek article, and it recounts a self-proclaimed "miracle" that is purported to have occurred when the pastor ran out of gas one night, along the very same highway that the vehicles of his cult followers bring to a standstill monthly, and at incalculable cost in wasted man-hours and lives of other motorists.
"Adeboye drove 200 miles on empty"
"Could his gas gauge have been broken ?"
"No, HE INSISTS, God intervened, because of the need in a crisis"
Any person claiming to have discovered a way to create energy out of nothing is by definition claiming to have violated all known laws of thermodynamics, as absurdly implied by Eunuch's DECLARED magical feat of propelling a motorized vehicle along a level road under the power of an engine that was either not running at all due to fuel starvation, or which was CONJURED, abra-kadabra-style, to run without any fuel other than the PRAYERS of a consumate, career illusionist.
Newsweek's choice of Pastor Eunuch as being Nigeria's most recognizable face is no accident. Nigeria has rightly earned itself a reputation as a nation mortally wounded by corrupt leaders, where mega-crime is rarely prosecuted, and whose citizens are known to be responsible for the bulk of all internet advanced-fee crimes globally.
What better a poster-boy could there be, for such a universally acknowledged homeland of proud felons and vagabond worshippers as Nigeria, than a man who milks the poor and claims he can run a car on empty for 200 miles ?
The REAL message, that is hidden in plain sight within Newsweek magazine's expose about Nigeria's money-grubbing uber-god, Pastor Eunuch, can be found not in the things that were said in that write-up, but in the truths that were left unsaid, about Nigeria and its international reputation.