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Should Bush Be Prosecuted For War Crime?

First, may God bless America and I hope to see peace to rise up all through out the world. It is also appropriate for all to support the American troops even if you see anything wrong with this ongoing war.

The main idea of the Iraq war was to retrieve the WMD and disable Saddam (because of his connections with Al Qaeda)

It's been confirmed over and over that the main purpose of this war is purely inaccurate.

And my question is:

Should Bush be held responsible for war crime after the end of his tenure as the United States president?

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As for war crime or not, I don't care - all I know is that Bush quadrupled aid to Africa or something like that - so he's alright by me.

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I dont believe what I am reading from some here.

Was the war premised on Saddam's removal? Would the war have been sanctioned if it was for the removal of Saddam?

I always believe that Americans are not excessively brutal. However, if you tell me that the American parliament voted for a war which has led to the extermination of probably hundreds of thousands of lives just because they wanted to remove Saddam, then one needs to seriously think about the kind of people who make laws in America

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The issue of the conduct of the war is moot in this regard.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.Many thought the war will be best served by 'light' US military presence,others projected troop numbers that were quite simply unsustainable given the state of the post-Clinton military.

In Germany post-war,some 2.3m died(I have seen figures of 5m).Posterity now casts the German occupation in a favorable light.I suspect it will take decades for a valid judgment to be made as to whether the war effort was successful or not.

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@4play

There are honest mistakes and they are deadly mistakes. . . . . .

And I am not even referring to the flimsy evidence.

The prosecution of the war has been America's greatest undoing.

In the military, they say 'assumption is the mother of all 4ck ups' and the invasion strategy was one long litany of assumptions, fueled by conceit.

It is in that respect they failed those of us who thought some good might come from this whole excercise.

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This crass talk about prosecuting Bush for war crimes beggars belief.No where have the Iraqi people indicated that they would rather Saddam was not removed from power.Polls after polls show that Iraqis,despite all they have gone through,are glad that Saddam was removed.

The meme,"Bush lied,people died",like all memes is incompatible with reality and logic.The supposed lie,that there were WMDs in Iraq,was something repeated by even Jacques Chirac himself in April 2003.Indeed,this claim was embodied in UNSC 1441 passed unanimously by 15 countries-that will mean that all 15 countries were lying.

A lie presupposes that the liar knew the truth-in this case,that there were no WMDs-but insisted on claiming otherwise.A lie does not include honest mistakes otherwise the whole of humanity is one mass blob of dishonesty.For Bush to believe that Iraq had no WMDs when his CIA chief told him it was a "slam dunk" would have been stunning.

Even Saddam's military generals were certain Iraq had WMDs:Read this excerpt from the NY Times-Source:NY Times

Saddam probably kept up the facade that he had WMDs in order to deter his enemies including Iran,Israel and various rebellious elements within the country.His was a policy of deliberate ambiguity.Fortunately,it backfired on him

The case for a Bush war crimes trial has little basis or support in law or in political reality.Maybe we should start another thread-should Bush be tried for ruining my egusi soup?

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If anybody needs to be prosecuted for war crimes it should be Donald Rumsfeld and Dic k Cheney. Bush should be allowed to plea bargain and serve as a witness. Bush is a good guy with bunch of @sswipes as advisers.

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George W. Bush and every member of his bloodthirsty cabal of death is a war criminal as far as I'm concerned. However, it would be virtually impossible to try him for war crimes, for obvious reasons.

The eternal consolation is that the socio-political equivalent of Newton's Third Law is and will continue to manifest itself - for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

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Yes. His lies as a justification for the silly war has led to the death of thousands of innocent Iraqis. The man deserves to be hanged for his crimes.

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hmmn dyu realli beleive thats going to happen,i dont think so, the way all the families, the bush,cheney even bin ladins and the rest of them are interlocked removing one link will get the rest in deep poo so theres no question of breaking that link ever

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Si vis pacem para bellum. I think the war would have happened anyway though, whether Bush invaded Iraq or not, afterall Saddam had to die sometime and like all dictatorship governments the government and middle class are weakened. After Saddam died there would have been a massive power struggle eventually erupting in war, but thats by the way. The point is, it was not the U.S place to invade Iraq and it was done under false pretense i.e Terrorism. The government lied to its people in order to achieve a selfish goal. Bush shouldn't be prosecuted for war crimes, I mean what war crimes are you going to prosecute him for exactly? and besides it not my place to suggest what the American people should do to their president since I'm neither Iraqi nor American.

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This is Cheney in '94

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That happens to be the stance I take on this issue myself.

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I went against my natural pacifist instincts and suported the war, cause I wanted a dictator removed

and for a brief period you could sense dictators around the world at alert, trying to legitimise their regimes.

But my wishes were betratyed by a poorly executed effort.

Shortsightedness and largely conceit put paid to all that. Rumsfeld revealed all that is pompous and derisory

about America. No plans about the borders, no adequate post-invasion plans, not enough military numbers etc.

Frankly I do not think it is our place to pontificate on the culpability of Bush.

It should be left to the families of thed thoundsands of lives lost, Americans and non Americans.

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ok philosopher Big B1, please explain how saddam would be "easily" removed. u still haven't answered my question though. what war crimes should bush be charged with. why don't u charge congress with war crimes too, they sure didn't mind funding the war.

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If dropping Saddam was the main issue or goal, United States would have easily accomplished that goal without any sweat.

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@ Blatant

Worse than Joseph Stalin, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Mao Ze dong, Ceaucescu, Abacha, Arafat?

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My man, stay focused.

My point is: You do not take a drastic action because you hate one man. United States is competent and strong enough to easily drop this dude (Saddam) with out creating all these mess.

Saddam is gone, and Iraq will also be gone for many years to come; for what?

Do you get it?

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where he belongs, do u see the people of iraq reminiscing the days of saddam??

pls mention the war crimes

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@lucabrasi:

My friend, anything is possible.

I believe that Bush is being protected because of the already questionable integrity of the United States. It makes no sense to further damage what is already been damaged.

This is also one of the major reasons why Bush's impeachment will never be approved (eventhough the evidences are enough to impeach him).

FYI: A successfull impeachment will give a solid premise for war crime prosecution.

The empire (The United States of America) must be protected at all cost! 

And that is an intelligent move.

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@bawomolo:

And where is Saddam today?

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irrespective of what anyone thinks,i believe the judge that will prosecute bush for war crimes has not being born

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so am the one that accused bush of committing war crimes

yeah because there is juju that can wipe out the whole of africa. some of u nuts seem to forget it was saddam that refused to allow IAEA inspectors access to iraqi nuclear facilities.

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@bawolomo:

Why don't you go ahead and list them?

May be Nigeria should also go ahead and bomb Togo and Ghana just because we think they have deadly juju that could destroy the entire African continent.

What do you think?

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pls list the war crimes that bush committed.

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how was it the intelligence he wanted, when there's was a split between rumsfeld, negroponte etc. bush had no control over the intelligence he got, neither did condelezza rice or collin powell.

congress votes no, america doesn't go to war.

why don't u ask russia and china who have no problem blocking sanctions against iran and north korea. a millitary strike against iran is atually still an option.

yeah i guess george bush must be stationed in army boots watching every prison in iraq. since when was the president responsible for the actions of every officer.

the soldiers responsible for the abu grahib incidents were charged, other soldiers have been charged in a few cases too. u can only claim war crimes if there are direct orders from command.

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And all these did not stop Mr. Bush!

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@bawomolo:

He was also warned by the same "faulty intelligence" (confirmed by George Telnet, former CIA Chairman) to exhaust all available options before striking the war.

The whole world also dedicated a day (just few months before the war) to simultaneously protest against the Iraq war (FYI: According to the French academic Dominique Reynié, between January 3 and April 12, 2003, 36 million people across the globe took part in almost 3,000 protests against the Iraq war; including a rally of 3 million people in Rome, which is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the largest ever anti-war rally).

He also did not get the necessary approval of the United Nation before striking the war.

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Are you sure everyone is quiet about North Korea?? Or is just that you do not listen or read news about North korea?? The new is from today.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/JC29Dg01.html

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/03/120_21436.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=ahee7tMNrjYk&refer=japan

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actually, i'd say it was a case of the intelligence he wanted. happens all the time. underlings are pressured to make a case for something the boss has alraedy made up his mind to do.

for me george bush unilaterraly chose to invade a sovereign country on false premises. he has made the world a much more dangerous place.

post 911, iran iraq and noth korea were labelled the axis of evil. right now sabers are being rattled at iran. everyone is quiet about north korea.

why? because north korea actually does have nuclear weapons. that's the message bush has sent out to the rest off the world - u'd better have WMD, or one day we just might invade your Bottom.

abu gharib, extraordianry rendition etal, happened on his watch. of course, the buck stops somewhere else.

rumsfield, the advocate of 'stress positions' 'accepted full responsibility' for abu ghraib(whatever that meant)

enough blathering. bush may not be a war criminal(directly), but his administataion bears responsibilty for the war crimes commited by the united states armed forces in iraq.

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it's not bush's fault, he had faulty intelligence.

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Should Bush Be Prosecuted For War Crime?

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think what he did was needed considering the circumstances.

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I think NO

Bushes decision to go to war actually came after Osama Bin Laden struck on September 11. First was Afganistan, Iraq was next.

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DEFINITELY

He is responsible for the worst things to happen to human beings, next only probably to Adolf Hitler

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