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Should Elected Leader's Immediate Family Be Allowed To Live Outside Nigeria?

Political Office holders immediate family should not be allowed to live outside Nigeria. This should be added to the conditions of office along with no foreign accounts and asset declaration. This will lead to efficiency and make the political offices less attractive to money hungry individuals.

what do you think??

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After all Obama's Children do not go to public schools and neither do they go to public hospital. I think its fair they can live in Nigeria, but not use the school or medical system.

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ha ha ha ,

this girl go kill me oh,

Its easy for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for this preposition to be enforce in Nigeria. Imagine a country that spend the country revenue to fly presidential candidate to England for check ups, the country that spend money to fly accused corrupt governor to Dubai for treatment. Now you guys are proposing sending this peoples kids to AJEGUNLE or ISALE EKo to see what mosquito's and roaches look like. lol good luck.

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I think public servants (elected and appointed) should be mandated to live in Nigeria and use our sevices i.e hospitals, schools, etc. Also it should be forbidden for them to own generators or use sirens.

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it is a good thing that  a topic like this can be promoted here

please it no just about living outside the country or foreign accounts or even assets declaration.

they should be made to sign a document that all their relations themselves inclusive will live, school in Nigeria.

they should experience traffic jams, no travelling by air, they should be robbed by robbers , admitted to our hospitals and treated by our Doctors or can you imagine our ex vice president travelling to Germany to have his ankle bandaged. is this not a total waste of national resources.

Let them live in houses without generator in a mosquito infested area, this i believe will make them rethink on what they are putting us through with their insensitivity.

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you guys we are so far away from our topic, lets try and get back on track

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@Big B1,

Yes, your admitting that mistakes where made in the past is good and far better than dismissing such allegations.

I am aware that no one is perfect but it is very important that we face issues the way they are and make amends if need be.

Take care and enjoy the weekend too.

On the Admin, no one is bashing him, I guess honest comments are being made and these comments are hamrless as long as they are being made in good faith.

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@ AFAM

You are too damn sensitive, are you a chick?

If answering your question will make you smile, I will just go ahead and do so.

My man, you keep going back, talking about the past, talking about the failed policies and talking about the failed leaders. These are not new news, we all know that everything in Nigeria signifies failure.

It's time to let go the past and let's move forward. Things are much different now, a very good percentage of the population are willing to sacrifice, they are willing to work together toward changing things for better.

It's a new day and it's time to put better strategies in place and clean things up in Nigeria.

There is no need to continue to rehash, rehashing is for the losers.

It's OK to try things that were tried before; My man, sometimes second time or second chance is the best.

Second time gives you the opportunity to realize all your mistakes, the reasons for the mistakes, solutions to all the mistakes and finally a better strategy to prevent the mistakes from occurring again; (Imagine that you are given a chance to re-take the same exam once again, how will you do, my man?) Just think about it.

We have seen a-lot, we have discovered why somethings did not work and we have also discovered a better way to correct things. It doesn't matter who comes up with the idea, it doesn't matter if the idea was implemented in the past, what matters is correcting things and improving the standard of living in our lovely country unitedly.

Dude, this is the best I can do, I hope I've answered all your questions and I hope you're smiling now.

Enjoy the weekend.

May God bless Sweet Nigeria.

Note:@ AFAM and MAMAJAMA: Till you guys come up with your own FORUM for free, you need to quit bashing the ADMIN.

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@Big B1,

You have failed to answer the simple question that I asked but I am not surprised, it is common for people that are not straightforward to play games with words when you ask them simple questions.

IBB implemented what you are advocating today and it did not stop him from massive looting of public funds, so why should we implement something that did not work before as regards IBB and Abacha?

If you do not have any answer to the question just let it pass, do not waste your energy playing games with words and claiming that smart ones can see the answers. We do not need more maradonas in Nigeria, we want straight forward and honest people.

As regards my comment on moeny not being everything, don't get unnecessarily excited I was refering to IBB that thinks that with his money he get pay his way through anything, certainly not you.

@MAMAJAMA,

I have been wondering where a lot of good posters have gone to after I took a month's break on this forum.

As regards Seun, I sincerely hopes he overcomes his sometimes irrational ways of doing things.

I was banned once (on the technology forum) for responding to an insult from someone I believe is his friend for about 30 minutes or so and believe me I felt bad when I noticed I was unbanned.

No doubt, a lot of good people have left this forum for different reasons. I am a moderator of an issues based forum here but whenever I am less busy I drop by and respond to posts that interest me.

Take care.

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I will DIE eating SKUNK before I support a criminal like IBB, he is part of the reasons we are in shamble right now, and him and other retired fat general has nothing to offer hard working Nigeria's. can IBb account for his wealth?

how can a retired civil servant be one of the richeast people in the world, boy wake up and stop this IBb thing its making me sick

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I'm glad that you're finally waking up.

Believe me, we need IBB to come back and make things right.

He mercifully craves for successful system in Nigeria. He knows the problem and he has the power/ experience to rectify things.

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Well, folks, I'm sorry for the interuption; ODEKU happens to be one of my old buddies and as you can see, he will never change.

Let's get back to the topic.

I still think OLADI's idea is unique and will empower the living standard in our country.

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let me ask you MR bigb1?  if the admin ban me is he taking anything away from my bank accounts?  the answer is No, so I can careless if he Ban me, I've proved to him over and over again, I will always be one step ahead of the game when it comes to internet security and vulnerability, you can't ban someone with access to over 200 computers, you can filter the IP address all you want, there are remote site I can use to login to nairaland without been detected if i so choose to.

Beside, I have allot of info coming to my people from Nigeria with the useless administration we currently have

the presidents, senators and governors have lost touch of the country

only prayers will save Nigeria from distruction. Vice president on the run, and president acting like a 4 year old military man

How can you accused the vice of corruption and your own hands are dirty like ajegunle slump?

How can we produce petrol and still be experiencing  petrol scarcity? pollution, corruption and dilapidated buildings and schools.

be on the look out for my book  Odeku experience in Nigeria.

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MAMAJAMA, here we go again; I could just tell that you will be going back to kirikiri soon.

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Bigbig see this is why we always fight. stop kissing Bottom and call a spade a spade, that clown banned ODEKU a whole me, how can you ban me? with no reliable excuse?

almost everyone drinks ODEKU, ask the elders in Nigeria ODEKU is here for life with or without nairaland. I bet you I can start a thread now to ask what people think of the ADMIN arrogance, and watch and see what people have to say.

a good admin will look for constructive criticism and amends his actions to make the forum suitable for everyone not just acting like a military man in power.

do you know nairaland will be useless like many other sites out there with no patrons?

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I see your point, but this is why Nairaland Forum is the best; nobody is perfect, even the admin is not.

The same folks (your friends) that cry everyday, leave and then come back with different ID, just like yours.

I admire Nairaland and we should all show some respect and appreciation to the admin's effort in keeping this site going.

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How much do you want to bet? most of my friends are drifting away already. I love nairaland people but I must admit I detest the admin, how can you ban someone for not agreeing with your views? at least have the decency and respect to tell them why you banning them, this is not a dictatorial forum. the reason nairaland is so successful is because of people like you and I that brings the fire all the time. my time on here is limited, I've meet nice and interesting people that I respect and value their opinion

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And do not bother to waste your time and energy, there will never be any other FORUM LIKE NAIRALAND.

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POSTED BY MAMAJAMA AKA ODEKU

Therefore, I'm absolutely correct as usual. This is ODEKU.

Cool. I'm happy that you're back.

It is simple, just watch your mouth and you will not be touched.

And you need to change your name from MAMAJAMA to something else, may be GULDER!

MAMAJAMA is an Old nasty Indecency star

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I am not hidding ask you senseless and dictatorial admin how much IBB camp paid him to ban me? and for your ifo, there is a website in development that will compete with the nairaland, be on the look out

I was in Nigeria making sure the tootles general never come close to Aso Rock

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Its time we starting thinking outside the box and create a check and balance system for our leaders,

@Big B1 and ever1

We can make it happen

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People i think we should be finding ways to make this idea possible, if we are hoping for a better Country, its not the ultimate solution, but its a step

Lets think about a way to get this going

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People FYI: MAMAJAMA is also known as ODEKU.

ODEKU, believe me, you can't hide; I know what you smell like.

One love.

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ODEKU, simmer down.

It's my reason and my side, you don't have to see it the same way as I do.

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In what nation is the toothless general IBB respected, are you in disillusion BIGB1? THis man can't even step a foot on USA Soil for fear of prosecution.

this same maradona said he drop out of the presidential race because of his relationship and friendship with Yar Adua?

and In contradiction he killed his best man Vertsa, and Betrayed his friend Abiola. can't you see we Nigerians of today are more educated and equipped with informations

INFORMATION = KNOWLEDGE

All his atrocities are on the web for anyone that cares to read and decide for themself, so BIGB1 STOP looking like a fool preaching this IBB slogan, its old NEWS, HE will never get to ASO ROCK.

Now lets get back to the topic at hand.

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@AFAM

Trust me, I've answered all your questions.

Two or three words are just enough for a smart man to get the message.

And my man, what does money got to do with my comment?

I do not get it.

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For your information I live and work in Nigeria so you are on your own as regards your comment on hiding in foreign lands.

As for your response proper, it failed to address, let alone answer any of the 2 questions asked, maybe it is an oversight or a mistake.

It seems you know everything about IBB and his being sorry for his past mistakes but the onus lies with IBB himself to tell Nigerians that (even though he squandered a good opportunity at the Oputa Panel) and not you.

So, answer the 2 questions so we can move ahead and let us leave the campaign style responses as these won't sell.

A better approach would be to face the issues, make amends and move on but if you imagine that Nigerians would be hoodwinked into forgetting everything that happened in the past without any apologies by the man responsible for so many sufferings then you better think again.

Money is not everything and I believe you ought to know this by now.

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@ AFAM, @ MAMAJAMA and @ ALL:

My reason and my side

Please do not get it twisted folks, my support for IBB remains incompressible.

The man is smart, well respected by many, has incredible style, he's focused, has the capability to chain things down effectively and efficiently in Nigeria, has the stamina to put stop into corruption among all government officials and mercifully craves for a successful system in Nigeria.

Believe me, he recognizes his mistakes and he also deserves to be given a chance to redeem himself.

Believe me, currently things are very very fragile in Nigeria and if we are not careful, Nigeria will be turned into Iraq or Somali very soon; and guess who will suffer?

We must look forward to move forward; it's time to let go the past and allow the most competent and respected individual to rectify things in Nigeria.

Adenuga on the other hand is a wonderful man, a serious business man that is totally determined to develop his father's land by sharing and giving incredible opportunities to common Nigerians.

The Green Eagles of Nigeria are currently more attractive just because of this man.

Telecommunication industries continue to improve vigorously in Nigeria today because of this man.

Employment opportunities in Nigeria today have become a dream come true again because of this man.

As we all know, no one is perfect, especially operating in Nigeria, but we must be-careful, fair, bright and appreciate folks who are willing and dedicated in investing heavily in Nigeria.

By the way, Adenuga could have relocated to other attractive and more developed countries; and invest his money in more attractive/ stable economy with-out any problem. Believe me, he has several options, but he has selected to be involved in moving his country forward. Hence do not get it twisted, Adenuga doesn't need Nigeria, we need him.

You can go ahead and criticize me if you want, it is very easy for you to hide in another country and speak fire, but you do not know what I know.

These folks are nothing but major assets to our lovely country and it is time for all of us to recognize this fact and embrace it before it's too late.

Yaradua, Jonathan, Buhari, Atiku, Kalu and even OBJ are alright, but at this point in time in Nigeria they can not and will not move our country forward effectively, efficiently and unitedly.

It is very important to understand what these 3 terms (effectively, efficiently and unitedly) stand for, I use them a-lot. It takes a genius to know and understand what is needed to accomplished all 3 points.

It is clear that we need all 3 in Nigeria and believe me, most current leaders in Nigeria can not achieve all 3 points, but I can assure you that IBB will knock out all 3 within the first 8 months in power.

Regardless of who happens to be the next Nigerian president (If it's not IBB), IBB will never be touched negatively by this individual or anyone and he will be involved heavily in contributing toward making Nigeria the Giant of Africa once again.

May God bless Nigeria.

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Afam Good point, Oya BIGB1 we are waiting for your response on the question.

Can someone name one public elected official that has not a beneficiary of shady deals, contracts award in Nigeria?

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@Mckren,

Exactly my point, we must learn to separate the issues from the personalities.

Agreeing with a sound recommendation from a "bad" person is not the same as supporting the person.

@Big B1,

Honestly, you are boxing yourself in unnecessarily. Why do you push for a 'positive change' with so much passion on one hand and avoid or dismiss any comment that does not support IBB or even Adenuga completely?

It calls into question what your real motives are. It puts you in a situation where you cannot comfortably contribute to issues without one asking what is he up to this time?

While you believe the recommendation will do wonders, I have asked two questions that require answers[b] - Did IBB and even Abacha not do the same thing? Can these men be absolved of corruption based on their decisions to implement what you are advocating for today?[/b]

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I hope the dedicated serious politicians are reading.

My man, Oladi, I can assure you that this idea will be implemented very soon.

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Look guys, this topic is simple and straight forward; there is absolutely no reason to make it bigger than what it is.

I truly do not see any reason why anyone will want to object a pure bright idea like this one.

It is so sad that it feels like pulling a tooth to apply a constitution that will eventually benefit all, just because folks are purely greedy to their bones.

Greediness in Nigeria is a disease that needs a very very strong medication to cure.

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The point is that some Nigerian politicians are not worth listening to, the same Nzeribe who called for OBJ's impeachment at one time supported third term for OBJ to continue in power.

The same Chukwumerije who as Information minister in IBB's regime preached for support for IBB and destroyed the clamour for return to democratic rule is now one of the so called renowned democrats.

My brother what does that tell you? they should not be taken seriously because they only talk about what favours them at the time.

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I do not believe in blanket condemnation or commendation of anyone regardless of the person involved.

Nzeribe drew up a list and circulated same to other senators and suggested this simple and yet effective method be used to catch corrupt officials, what he did matters to me not who he is.

Same way Chukwumerije presented one of the most compelling cases against the 3rd term on the floor of the senate.

We must tackle issues raised and leave the personalities involved otherwise we may lose out as regards suggestions or recommendations simply because certain people are not liked for any reasons whatsoever.

This is similar to the problem we have today as regards ethnicity where certain good recommendations are thrown to the trash can simply because the people making such recommendations come from a particular part of the country, this is bad and it does no one any good.

Meanwhile, thanks for enjoying my views, it is the same level of openness and objectivity that I have brought to bear on the Nzeribe issue.

Take care.

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Interesting!

For me public officials must send their kids to public /state funded schools, visit public general hospitals/clinics!Not until they do so can we move forward!Do you know how many Ministers of Education sent their kids away to study when they were in office. Right now almost all public office holders have kids abroad studying with the public till providing the funds. When they fall ill they are flown to SA, Germany or the UK with government funds,whereas the populace have to resort to derelict and decrepit underfunded, understaffed archaic antediluvian hospitals for care!Imagine. Aren't they public officials what sets them apart?Until this can be righted the polity is obviously going to continue on its downward spiral!It's rather sad that this happens and for it to be rigorously defended beggars belief!

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Please all public officials and agencies are corrupt to the bone in Nigeria, we have custom officers turning the left cheeks while petrol tankers are going to Kutonu, and we have traders that will inflate price over night, what we need is checks and balances and a good leader, not a military vagabonds

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I agree with you Mckren the media might be the only means, considering it will affect the lower and upper house. Or unless we can get EFCC to twist their arm

@mamajamma

what we are proposing is temporary, it should come with a condition say till we get off the top 50 most corrupt countries list, and should serve as a check for us that each time we fall back in that category it becomes effective again.

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Maybe. in other words are you guys saying rich people should not contest for public office?

It will be nice to have their immediate family in Nigeria but i still think if you have money and have a justifiable income, you should be able to send your family any where you so choose.

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I know four friends whose dads are senators studying in Britain do you think they will support your idea? the best bet for you is the media.

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Afam I support most of what you say on this blog but this latest talk about Nzeribe makes nonsense of all of them. It will do my heart a great pleasure if you could please retract your statement. Because I enjoy your views a lot.

Nzeribe, Ubas, Chukwumerije, Orji can only be remembered in Igbo hall of shame. People are celebrating the fact that Nzeribe has lost his Senatorial seat.

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You are being evasive here and it does not make any sense, the bottomline remains the issue of corruption unless you are discussing another thread entirely.

I believe Nzeribe's proposal would have a lot of corrupt officials like IBB stripped of any ill gotten wealth in no time and he would not be living in a mansion on the hilltop unless he shows Nigeria how his salary and all entitlements could have built it for him.

Go and study more? Thanks, no need for that, I do not believe in the idea of making simple tasks complex.

I am focused, I am worried that any comments that have anything to do with IBB or any of his fronts like Adenuga gets you really worked up and yet you claim you do not have anything to do with him.

I do not need to get personal as there are a lot of information in the public domain that anyone can lay his/her hands on to know that IBB was corrupt and hugely responsible for institutionalising corruption in Nigeria.

That you can campaign for a better Nigeria and yet not see any single wrong doing by IBB is the strangest position I have seen a Nigerian take for over 10 years.

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@ Mamajama

If you work in the private sector, stay there keep making your money, we encourage that, but if you want to be in the public sector you have to be ready for what it takes.

IBB, Adenuga, their day is still coming, unfortunately it seems like IBB might be after the good of the country, but with his history noone is ready to take the chance, and also enough of old military guys

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@MAMAJAMA

Why do people love to twist and change topic from blue to purple?

What does this topic have to do with Adenuga?

Is Adenuga a government official or elected leader? No.

MAMAJAMA, no disrespect, but let's stay focused on one topic.

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I don't care what any one says. if you've worked hard for your money and you are doing good in private sector, you should be able to enjoy the fruit of your labor. But as a public official that becomes rich over night that is another story. people like IBB, ADENUGA and co family should stay in Ajegunle and see what ordinary Nigerians are going through. What we have in Nigeria is a situation where the rich and powerful people do not care about regular 9-5 hard working people. corruption, poverty and lawlessness is every day life. But there is hope

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@AFAM:

First, the purpose of this topic is not to solve corruption problem in Nigeria; The purpose of this topic is finding a better way to empower the standard of living in Nigeria.

By enforcing the leaders and their families to live in Nigeria and utilize our resources will indirectly bring major improvement.

Second, do you really believe that you and Mr Nzeribe's proposal will solve corruption in Nigeria?

Quote by AFAM:

Go and study more; believe me, this will never solve anything. Big boys already figured out a way to beat this strategy.

Finally, stay focused and no need to get personal.

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@Oladi,

I live and work in Nigeria, I feel the pain the average man feels in Nigeria.

I believe forcing people to change their life styles isn't right because it will ultimately mean that some Nigerians (read the children) will be deprived of their freedom of choice as regards schooling or working especially if their parents can afford the bills.

What we need is a system that checks and balances what elected or selected officials do while in office.

Many people criticize Nzeribe today but so far he remains the only senator that had suggested the best way to rid Nigeria of corruption as far back as the 1999- 2003 administration.

His suggestion? Ask any Nigerian the source of his wealth for example Mr A has a mansion, all that he needs to explain is how he came about the money to build the mansion, Mr B buys a private jet, he should tell us where the money came from, simple and practical ways of fighting this monster called corruption.

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@ OLadi

Excellent state of mind.

It feels so good to know that at least one person is alive around here.

Count me in.

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See, if you want us to discuss as brothers then you must demonstrate a certain level of objectivity.

It seems strange that on one hand you clamour for a better Nigeria and on the other you either dismiss or ignore any valid comments against IBB when infact you should defend them if you believe the accusations are out of place.

The way you react when IBB is mention versus people like OBJ leave s one thinking that your motive is far from objective.

This is an open forum and no one gains anything by quarelling with anyone but we should try to be fair in our discussions and at all times if possible.

Nothing personal, I will rather say my mind than pretend about what I think.

Take care.

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@ AFAM

IBB did it back then, now imagine all LG chairmen, Governors, Senators, Legislators, doing it. only if you guys will see the state Nigeria is, not even to talk security wise, or healthcare or the sorry states of the schools. we dont have anything to lose with this. For once lets all work together and make something work

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@ Mamajama

its about creating a system that works for Nigeria, its not the the ultimate solution but will take us a step closer. Currently now, political positions are too attractive, its about weeding out greedy people, and creating a way for people that are willing to sacrifice

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Can someone pls say a disadvantage of including that in the conditions of office, i dont see any to the country, and mind you it can be a temporary clause, till things get better.

Lets figure out ways to get this going, election is around the corner

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