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Should Ismalic Dress Code Be Compulsory In School For Non Muslims?

In kano today, islamic dress code have been made compulsory for all pupils including non believers and christians.

What is your say in this outrageous law?

source-yahoo news i think is the US yahoo.

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Very soon, if that of school children is sustained, it will expand to every other person.

Very soon and if that of Kano is sustained, it will move to Katsina, Zamfara, etc.

And when some of us are calling for direct talks about the future of Nigeria, we are called names. The truth is that Nigeria have no future in this present structure and with this present constitution. We can either face it and address it or we can keep on pretending and one day, just one day, we can wake to have a tyrant more dangerous than the combination of IBB, Abacha and OBJ. Or worst still, a Taliban revolution has taken place and I might be jailed or even be killed for shaving my bears.

If the cost of "one" Nigeria is my freedom, then that oneness must be negotiated again becuase my freedom is not negotiable.

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no no no no capital NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Talk is cheap. I believe it is time for CAN (Christian Association f Nigeria) to take this law to the courts & put it to the test. Put it in public view. Let it be strongly debated & let all voices be heard.

There have been reports of fundamentalist christian women in some states, refusing to put on NYSC trousers, when they were called up to serve in the youth corps, because they consider it to be a man's garment & the bible frowns on women who wear men's clothing.

Imposing an Islamic dress code on Non-Muslims is an unwise decision, in my opinion. But if those who are affected in those states, do not do something to revoke the law, then all discussion is futile.

Here are different perspectives on the wearing of hijabs etc. in another country. It is said that the hijab is actually a recent thing. Like some reported:

Another one said:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:0ec7luJNkIQJ:news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3110368.stm+islamic+clothing+veil+schools+christian+sharia+nigeria&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=ng

As far as am concerned, Muslim women or girls can wear whatever they like. They just shouldn't impose their dress code on those who do not share their faith.

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that to me is one of teh problems with nigeria, people wont do anything until they or their relatives are affected!

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The Nigerian religious supreme leaders and i don't mean alot of leaders i mean one from christianity and one from moslems need to address all this issues and not stay in their palaces chilling with visitors and co while someone fanning them and they are adjusting their agbada.

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Excellently put McKren. until such a time as we respect each other and our fundamental human rights in Nigeria, there would always be situations like this where politicians mess with the electorate to suit their selfish interests.

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Talking about fedralism, see below what my dictionary says about it

The statements in bold tells a lot about our situation. "provided they do not violate the Constitution" . Shekarua and the Kano state legislature while they have all the rights to make state laws are on this occasion violating sections 10, 262, 41 and 42 of the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is also worthy to note section 1 of the constitution which talks about the supremacy of our constitution and any law inconsistent with this constitution being void.

, "Until the middle of the twentieth century, the Supreme Court left the interpretation of many civil rights guarantees to the states, resulting in widespread discrimination against minorities"  that quote tells you that those who have perfect democracies once experienced these and changed it. So this is the necessary growth our democracy has to go through.

Yes there are flaws in the constitution, but am very sure this is not one of those flaws. We are simply on this occasion not adhering to the constitution.

Dont get me wrong, I am not preaching hate against Muslims but we can only succeed as one Nation when we understand and appreciate the rights of fellow Nigerians no matter their ethnic group or religion.

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if you are thinking that what Nigeria presently has is federalism then you are sadly mistaken. If we were implementing a TRUE federal system of government we wouldnt be here arguing about sharia.

The reason why governors in Nigeria have time to haggle over sharia and veils is because they dont have to worry about finance. Every month they get their federal allocation whether they spend 29 days in the month sleeping or not. The federal govt is in charge of electricity, schools, water, immigration, police, the economy e.t.c. what else does a governor have to do besides promulgating retrogressive laws and siphoning funds to private bank accounts.

If we had fiscal federalism, we could care less about whether Zamfara wants to turn itself into a monument to 12th century arabia, 99.9% of the economy revolves around the south, what would i be doing in Kano when Lagos and Bayelsa make in a month more than Kebbi state can dream of generating in 200yrs? We wouldnt have JAMB that forces southern schools to take cattle rearers ahead of more qualified southerners, we wont be wrangling over the presidency, there would be no money to go and steal there! We wont be thinking of sharia courts, Shekarau would have no money to pay the imams, well unless he can start planting groundnuts!

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I think the nigerian constitution is still a joke! there are too many grey areas.

I do not fully understand the idea of federalism but if it involves giving more powers to regions/states then this is one of its disadvantages; there'll be situations whereby governors in the name of democracy (the majority right?) implement laws to make political statements to the detriments of the 'others'.

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I wonder how educated the governor of this state is, How repulsive to try and enforced such an idiotic law on the people of the state.  are there no more programes the governor can embark on to build discipline in the state? provide healthy school and hospitals?  why is the dress code even an issue?  it looks like all the law makers in KANO are not exposed to the modern world at all,  We can respect what you do with your life and your family but when been enforced on the people then it becomes an issue that should be address.

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If lawmaker don't want to debate it, a proprietor or parent in Nigeria should take the bull by the horn and drag Kano State government to an Abuja High court and publicise to the world including the BBC. By the time it becomes a national embarrasment lets see how it will not be a national debate.

It is illegal for Shekarua to bully non-muslims to adhere to muslim dress codes, at least it is in section 262 of the constitution states clearly that sharia is only applicable to muslims.

It is even illegal for any state to have a state religion it is in section 10 of the constitution. People are confusing the recognition of Sharia law by state courts and state courts of appeal and having a state religion. That the sharia law will be used by sharia courts to address issues where both parties consent or subscribe to the law does not translate to the constitution permiting a state religion.

Shekarua is advocating a state religion and that is Illegal. It is even more illegal that he is compelling people who do not subscribe to that religion to adhere to it.

sections 41 and 42 gives every Nigerian the right to live in any part of the country practising his own religion. It also makes it illegal for anybody to deprive him of rights he would have benefited from other parts of the country because of his birth.

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@Mamajama

I am glad to inform you that the constitution of the Federal republic of Nigeria strengthens your position on this.

View the conversation in the following thread:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-52087.32.html

No one says Sharia should not be practised by those who want it, it already exists and is law. But trying to enforce it beyond its jurisdictions is illegal and will require the Constitution re-written by the NASS to do that.

Non-Muslims are not binded by the Sharia law.

If Notherners and Muslims are civilised they should learn to arrest and prosecute whoever they think is flouting sharia before a Sharia court of law rather than usurping the duties of the court by implementing it themselves on the streets. Attacking or bullying people to accept a strange religion is outdated.

Guess what, here comes the begining of the end to this Sharia nonsense in Nigeria because when people kill people their compatriots in the name of Sharia they claim they are thugs. Now a recognised state government is bullying non-muslims to adhere to sharia, I think we have who to hold responsible here.

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What law makers are you talking about? The law makers that support the law or the law makers of other states?

Are you saying you are ready to wine and dine with someone you despise as long as you benefit from the person one way or the other?

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This has nothing to do with business, this is about morality and freedom of speech, expression and association. If this law or ordinance does pass. the next thing they will go after will be speech, everyone in the state of KANO will be compelled to learn ARABIC. When will the law makers start doing their job and standing against this kind of secluded barbaric action?

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Yes, we practice democracy so if the state house of assembly passes a law supporting this it becomes law (if it has not become one already). If their senators agree with the directive will you allow the matter to rest considering the fact that those elected to represent them are in agreement with the law?

I do not agree that people are disgusted with muslim nations but I will agree that christain fanatics and fundamentalists are.

People (including christains) go to Dubai everyday to buy stuff, the West is ready to kill to do business with Saudi Arabia as regards crude oil, the West is ready to go to war (remember Iraq) to benefit from Iraqi wealth.

I believe that those who abuse the muslim nations on one hand and are ready to do business with them for their selfish reasons are the ones that are hypocrites.

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This is not a FEDERAL MATTER, this is a local state government matter and the residents of this area should be calling their senators and councilmen to appeal this disgusting act. We practice a democratic government and not totalitarian. This is one of the reasons why people are so disgusted with the Muslim nations.

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And I'll raise a toast to that. Love the civilized West and its enlightened liberal mores, or leave it and head back to the dark age of your choice.

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Anybody who comes to the UK and starts all the bullshit about religious freedom, especially the muslim women who want to look like a bat or vampire with that rediculous head gear should get their asses back on the next plane from where they came.

Go back to your own liberal Islamic country and try protesting against something that you dislike there instead. You will soon be stoned, hung or even worse.

If you are in the UK then live like we do or get your Bottom back to the third world country from where you appeared.

For those that come to the UK and assimilate with us, then peace and welcome.

For the rest , FU*K OFF

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Very very unnecessary but they just want to do what their crazy thoughts tells them. This kind of acts have always kept Nigeria stagnant which is their wish. Each time we talk about cut off marks they 'r the lowest they want to travel anywhere in Nigeria but yet want to customize their own states. Well, i really believe dat Yar adua need to take a stand emphasising on freedom of religion cuz Naija is not middle east and will never be middle east.

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most times ii think we southerners are the slow ones. We hold the keys to our own future and yet we allow 12th century cattle rearers to dictate to us. How come we are so backward and poor when we have so much resources both human and natural? When are we going to stand up ad tell these morons to move over to Niger and Chad from whence they came?

They bring NOTHING to the economic table and yet demand the lions share while using intolerable laws to make life difficult for us. the same idiots who insist that our daughters wear veils in their states pick the next flight and run to enjoy the nightlife and freedom that Lagos and Portharcourt offers. The hypocrites!

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these bastards receive the biggest share of centrally collected oil revenues. bloody theives

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the more i hear this sort of thing, the more i wish these slow people are no longer associated with the rest of us.

At the same time, i wonder who really is slow. Their stone throwing asses, or we cowardly southerners for letting them climb over us.

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I don't think the issue is as simplistic as the topic suggests. Question here is: What are the underlying motives of the Kano State Governor and his ilk in the imposition of these codes?

It is more a question of politics than of morality. If a similar enactment is made in the South in flavour of ordering that the veil is NOT worn, I don't suppose that there would be any stir.

How is the wearing of a veil to conform to Islamic tenets ever going to minimize the occurences of sex-related crimes and offences? One need hardly asks of make a wild guess. The thoughts in a man's heart do not automatically go to sleep when his eyes fall on a woman - veils or no veils. No matter how many robes she adorns to cover even the eyelashes, the perpetrators will do what's in the thoughts at the slightest opportunity.

It is pathetic to note that even in the Islamic countries of Afghanistian, Pakistan, and Iran, women are Molested and the molest victims are punished by Islamic laws for what is not their fault. No, I'm not making this up; and for anyone interested, they can try to figure this out from articles on the following links:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1874191,00.html

Excerpt:

For Sharma Zia, another victim in the safe house, it is unlikely the fear of being Molested again

will go away. 'I know I can't stay here for ever,' she says. 'My home town isn't that far away,

but I can't return. The men who Molested me live close to my parents and even they took the

side of my rapists. My allegations only brought them shame. Sometimes I feel like I only

bring people shame. I wish I could leave, go abroad, but I know that will never happen.'

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/HRW/6e5c7b5b4e7369144f7ac0c41be6798b.htm

Excerpt:

(New York, November 14, 2006) The Pakistani government must honor its pledge to amend

the controversial Hudood Ordinances by removing some of its most discriminatory and dangerous

provisions, Human Rights Watch said today. Human Rights Watch urged the National Assembly

to table the Women's Protection Bill in its current session. The Pakistani government of General

Pervez Musharraf has said the National Assembly will soon consider amendments to the Hudood

Ordinances, which criminalize adultery and non-marital sex, but the government has repeatedly

reneged on such assurances in the past.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/pakistan/mckenna_pakistan.html

Excerpt:

But this is the key problem in Pakistani law: both molest and adultery fall under the crime of Zina,

meaning illicit sexual relations. "This has to stop. molest is molest and adultery is adultery. They're

not the same thing," Mai says. The Pakistani religious laws regarding molest and adultery are called

the Hudood Ordinances. "The Hudood Ordinance is defined by God and his Prophet. It has

been outlined in the Qur'an and no parliament, no intellectual and no man has the right

to amend it, add to it, or remove anything from it," al-Haq says. Religious conservatives wield

a lot of political power in Pakistan. Many women wear veils or cover themselves completely with

a Burka because conservatives insist on a strict interpretation of the Qur'an. Seventy per cent of

Pakistani women live in the rural areas, where the conservative view is dominant. "We are an

Islamic country and these are Islamic laws," Bakhtiar says. "So to change something which

has been brought about in the name of religion you can imagine is not easy in Pakistan."

This idea that people should be subjected to Islamic codes of dressing, walking the streets, or whatever else, should be seriously challenged and put to the grave once and for all before it becomes another HUDOOD in Nigeria.

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That is why those place remain largely underdeveloped mentally and socially; Its a pity then the FG will be talking of NYSC.

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I guess he is suffering from lack of ideas.

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How right will it be if the Governor of a southern state decides that no one is allowed to wear veil in the South. Frankly Shekarua should be ashamed of himself. He should work harder to improve the lives of his people rather than exploiting religion to score cheap political points.

Yaradua talked about Ignorance in his 7-points agenda while talking about poverty. This is the height of ignorance, lets see how he handles it. Dont tell me the President of Nigeria has no say when the fundamental human rights of southerners who live in the North is trampled upon.

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as a moslem myself, i see nothing wrong with it. but on a general level, in a dynamic place like kano (although it is marority moslem), it is a bit draconian to do that. i think yaradua (or atiku, if due process is followed and he emerges president) can do little or nothing to stop moslem governors from passing such laws. YAradua himself passed a similar law in katsina!

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This will obviously be one of the first challenges of the Yaradua government, I hope somebody openly opposes it so that the issue escalates to a National debate. I am not against having muslim schools in any part of the country where people dress like the Sultan if they so wish. But the governor of a state mandating every school student to dress in a particular way is outrageous and those who call themselves senators and representatives should be ready to debate it in the NASS.

We all celebrated when OBJ suspended Joshua Dariye for tactically travelling abroad each time there was religous conflict in his state. OBJ himself a Christain disciplined Dariye a fellow Christain for engaging in such shameful tacit support for one religous group against the other in his state. Let us see how Yaradua handles this one.

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I have a better idea regarding this dress code policy. Why don't all those who prefer to dress in hellishly hot religious masquerade outfits simply relocate to a backward theocratic crap-hole full of similar retards such as Somalia where they can wear whatever the phuck they want without disturbing the civilized world ?

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First of all, let me say to yall yariya freaks/, 'dont get me started" , This is the federal republic of nigeria we talking abt.There shouldnt be anything like religious dress codes.Do that within ur own islamic community and dont spread it through the state. We cant continue to isolate ourselves all in the name of religion.I guess thius shows how much dictatorship as destroyed people's mentality. Its a free world baby!

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ARE this people crazy? does anyone knows who won the governorship in kano?

here is the link

This is in line with our resolve to bring about a positive change in the attitude of our students and to strengthen their morality," the governor of the northern state, Ibrahim Shekarau, said late Thursday.

POSITIVE ATTITUDE ? THIS country self

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070504/lf_afp/nigeriaislameducation;_ylt=AnVmSjmZGIoUzLDT4pLc8gxvaA8F

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It sholdn't be made cumpolstry.This is a secular state for heaven shake

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