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Terrifying View Of The Split Up Of Nigeria - Apocalypse for North & South?

I came across this spine chilling article on Nigerian Village Square.

If Naija Scatter (Part 1)     

Written by Nafata Bagamuje   

Tuesday, 04 August 2009

IF NAIJA SCATTER (1)

In recent times, two major violent centrifugal forces have emerged to threaten the continued existence of Nigeria as one nation, namely Islamic supremacists in the North and Ijaw insurrectionists in the Niger Delta. As will be shown in this write-up both of these regions – core North and Niger Delta - will also suffer the worst if Nigeria unravels.

Niger Delta

The so-called Niger Delta militancy is largely an Ijaw affair as there are very few if any Ikwerres, Ogonis, Itsekiris or other non-Ijaw Niger Deltans in MEND, NDPVF, Egbesu and other such insurrectionists. In other words, non-Ijaw Niger Deltans are for the most part not interested in the Niger Delta republic Ijaw separatists are fighting for, as the non-Ijaws are also wary of Ijaw aggression and hegemony.

In the unlikely event Nigeria disintegrates, all hell will break loose in the Niger Delta as the non-Ijaws will take up arms to challenge Ijaw hegemony. Rival ethnic militias will tear at each other and the region will become embroiled in a protracted civil war. This is not at all farfetched scare-mongering; just a few years ago Itsekiris, Ijaws and Urhobos were killing each other in Warri because of ordinary local government headquarter.

One doesn’t need to be a soothsayer to predict the massive conflagration that would ensue if the various Niger Delta ethnicities no longer have we “parasitic Northerners” as their common enemy and oil wells (not local government HQs) are at stake.

Already Ijaws have had scuffles and territorial disputes with several of the non-Ijaw Niger Delta ethnic groups among whom Ijaws settle; from Ilajes in Ondo state to Ibibios in Akwa Ibom state where they are supposed to be a negligible minority. Several years ago, Ijaws even went as far as Lagos to battle OPC. So the recent Atlas cove attack was by no means the first Ijaw aggression in Lagos.

A minority group (Ijaw) having the temerity to challenge a majority group (Yoruba) on the majority’s own turf. One cannot help but shudder at the tragedy that awaits non-Ijaw Niger Deltans if Nigeria implodes.

Then there is the Biafra / Igbo factor. The oil-rich riverine Igbos (Obigbo, Etche, Ikwerre etc) who produce much of Rivers state’s on-shore crude, are unlikely to join the prospective Ijaw dominated Niger Delta republic. They will most likely join the inland and Anioma Igbos to form Biafra.

If they don’t join voluntarily, Biafrans will still endeavour to exercise sovereignty over them not just because they are ethno-linguistically Igbos - despite some of their politically convenient denials – but more importantly because the riverine Igbos provide vital access to the sea which Biafra will desperately need. Quite probably the Biafrans will battle the Ijaw dominated Niger Delta republic for control of River’s oil wells and unfettered access to the Atlantic ocean.

Yorubas will also be drawn into the Niger Delta fray to secure their Ilaje and possibly Itsekiri cousins from Ijaw hegemony. Following the recent Atlas cove attack, several Yoruba groups (OPC, YCE etc) have already read the riot act to Ijaw insurgents to desist from aggression in Yoruba-land. So one can be sure, Yorubas will not leave Ilajes to the mercy of Ijaw expansionism.

Arewa

Up here in the North, Islamists who are barely restrained by the need to continue to enjoy oil wealth from the non-Muslim South, will feel free to pursue their Jihadist agenda for totalitarian Islamization. With the collapse of the failed Nigerian state and its security agencies (Police, Army), extremist groups like the recently demolished Boko Haram will proliferate, as post-Nigeria Arewa degenerates into an Islamist anarchy.

Again this isn’t farfetched scare-mongering. Just over a year ago our gallant soldiers crushed another Boko-Haram type Islamist insurgency in the Panshekara / Challawa area of Kano. A few months ago, there were news and police reports of an Islamic terrorist training camp somewhere around Zaria.

Millions of northern Muslims already share Boko Haram’s abhorrence of Western education, which is why they only send their children to Quranic schools (Tsangiya) that breed hundreds of thousands of potential Islamist recruits. Notice how support for Boko Haram initially snowballed among some disgruntled malcontents, before the recent massive security crackdown.

Moderate Northern Muslims will attempt to battle such extremism, but they will fail. For one thing most of the educated “moderate” Muslims do not have the same stomach for violence as the martyrdom-seeking Islamists who look forward to screwing 72 virgins in Al-Jannah – Islamic heaven.

For another thing, the excruciating economic hardship and accompanying social discontent in post-Nigeria Arewa occasioned sudden cessation of oil revenues from the South and skyrocketing cost of petroleum products from the same hostile South, will push millions of ill-educated, Islamo-brainwashed, easily manipulated pauperized Talakawa into the hands of Islamic extremists…a la Karl Marx’s opium for suffering masses.

After all Sharia is the cure-all social panacea even for massive retrenchment and markedly increased taxes that will inevitably follow as post-Nigeria northern government(s) drastically prunes expenditure and endeavour to make up for lost oil revenue. The increased support for extremists by the impoverished masses will bolster Islamist militancy.

By denouncing secular education as abomination (haram), Boko Haram automatically condemned educated northern elites as apostates (Takfir), who according to Islam should be killed. Thus in the Islamist anarchy of post-Nigeria Arewa, nemesis will catch up with many of the so-called Northern leaders who failed to enforce compulsory secular education that could have emancipated and empowered our people against Boko Haram extremism.

As in other Islamist anarchies (Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq), foreign Jihadists will also be drawn into the fray. And I’m not referring to the usual amateur mercenary Jihadis from Chad and Niger; but Al-Qaeda type, Pakistani trained professionals. After all Bin Laden has severally mentioned Nigeria as ripe for Islamic revolution. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) has already spilled over from Algeria into neigbouring Mali from where they could easily crossover to a fractured Arewa.

Since Al-Qaeda is a global Islamist syndicate for Caliphal world domination, their activities won’t be restricted to the North. They will most likely foray into the parts of the South with large Muslim populations – notably northern Edo and Yoruba-land.

In addition, the major Islamist powers - Saudi Arabia and Iran - will both try to gain a foothold in Black Africa’s largest Muslim population by supporting rival Islamist factions.

Christians in the core North states with large population of indigenous non-Muslims (e.g Borno, Gombe & Bauchi) will organize their own militias to fend off Islamists. Add to this combustible mix of Islamist militancy and Christian militias, violent eruption of long simmering animosities between Hausa-Fulanis and Middle belt minorities; the result would be a catastrophe of Armageddon proportions that will make Somalia look like child’s play.

If the incessant religious violence in the North within the last two decades is anything to go by, we can also expect a 1966-type bloodbath of Easterners. But this time not only Igbos and Eastern minorities will be ethnically cleansed, but all southerners and even Middle belters in the core North. This will certainly be followed by massive retaliations down South.

These are just some of the ugly scenarios that await us if we are unable to make Nigeria work. The prospects are quite dire as a peaceful Soviet Union-type break-up is unlikely. On the contrary a Yugoslavia-type of violent disintegration is much more probable with Nigeria splintering up to a dozen parts. Old and subliminal ethno-religious animosities will violently erupt as our disparate ethnic pseudo-nationalities battle each other in a fratricidal scramble for territory and resources.

Nafata Bamaguje

Daura, Katsina state

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/nafata-bamaguje/if-naija-scatter-part-1.html

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From 3:31-6:09. I already told you to go and watch it.

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The arms given were captured from the USSR. Whatever Israel's intent was (which was probably to fight against more muslim domination in the world) the fact remains that Israel sold Biafra arms, just the same as Britain, Egypt etc. provided Nigeria arms, let me ask you, do you not think they were using you people also, or do you think the British etc, love Nigeria that much? At least the whole world felt sympathy for the Biafran children that were dying and sent them aid, at least that did not have an agenda behind it, but Nigeria's western support obviously did, which leads me back to my point, how are the Yoruba generals etc the best war strategists when they were being used by the West? What, they are the best at working out a war, but they couldn't they work that one out?

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So to summarise that means it is your opinion not a fact backed by sources. Alright then, lets move on now we know that.

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That is wrong.

Sorry, Benin empire predates Ife by a thousand years.

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Eze,

First, I have a lesson to share with you.  Human being is endowed with certain innate abilities - the capability to discriminate, to deduce, to evaluate, to inspect, to judge, to conclude. . . and so on and so forth.  I say these abilities are innate because, so to speak, they oriiginate from the expansive and imaginative consciousness and are expressed as knowledge.  Some of these are derived through the logical process and some are totally intuitive.  To back that up, here is a story. . . you make your conclusion as you see fit:

An MSNBC news anchor made an error when she introduced Jesse Jackson as Al Sharpton. When Jackson corrected her she responded by saying this " I know, . . .I know you are Reverend Jesse Jackson but I'm reading from my paper and it has you down as Al Sharpton".

She followed the script in front of her and acted in contempt of her innate ability to reason independently and do what she knew to be correct.  She is not alone. Western education is good, but certain aspects of academic knowledge and protocol can be counter-intuitive and silly.  A lot of people have come to rely upon source reference as the only credible avenue for truth.  Your truth is right in front of you. . .why do I need to quote an European that lives thousands of miles away as authority on what stares both you and I in the face?   How many more times do you need to hear it from Gowon, Gomwalk, Bali, Danjuma, Vatsa, Katsina, Babangida. . .all these people complementing the Yoruba Officers for their gallantry for thwarting the Igbo march towards Ore and then advancing the flanks Eastward?  

So my paragraph was not a waste if you care to reflect upon your own conscience and challenge that innate capacity within you for human intelligence.  Intelligence is not something that is taught in school. . .it lays dormant within the soul and the individual is responsible for awakening it.  

Well, let me share a new awareness with you.  In case you did not know. . .your war coincided with the 1967 Israeli-Arab war. What you received from Israel were armarments supplied by Russia to Egypt. Those were seizures that the arms dealer sold to Biafra for profit.  Israel did not manufacture weapons in that stage of their sovereignty, what they used against Arabs were supplied by US.  What they gave you were useless for their fight against the Arabs.  

Im also wondering if this is the root of your genealogy sentiments. . .you know, Igbo descent from Jewish tribes. If it is you are mistaken. . .Israel supporting your war is done from economic standpoint and not due to any familial connection.  If your reasons lie elsewhere then its reasonable for you to explore and push for a possible exodus from Nigeria to Israel. Im sure the Hausas will love to relocate down there and be neighbours with the Ijaws.  

What yardstick calibration were in place to evaluate social progress and what are the results of their measure?

Here you go again with that aggressive complusive behavior!  Lower your aggression! You do not give reassurance of stability when you exhibit threats. . .by whatever terms you describe it.

BTW can you tell me any uprisings or wars that the Yoruba have fought against any European nation, because the Igbo have fought 2; The Igbo women's war and the Anglo-Aro war. The only other people who have fought Britain in Nigeria is the [b]Benin Empire.[/b]

A political state bred by the Yoruba Nation.  Benin and Oyo empires both were spin offs from Ife, the spiritual root of Yoruba power.  History has plenty to teach you about Yorubas.

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I still don't believe that the resultant scenario would be this grim throughout Nigeria. May be so in the core north, and some middle belts areas if other areas (East or West) don't quickly absorb them. Look, I don't believe there would be war anywhere in the East or South. These areas can easily negotiate a nation from the pieces of Nigeria. No one would lord it over the other in the old East. The trouble would start by including the Yoruba in the new south/eastern nation. I even see a possibility of forming a nation comprising the old East and the Mid-west, and even up to Benue, and here is why:

These areas share some deep sets of values. For instance, if there is a need to form the type of a nation where people can seek and obtain employment in all parts of the nation, all these areas could easily adapt to such values except the Yoruba. A Yoruba would vote for and give employment to another Yoruba many times over before considering a non-Yoruba, and that is a fact.

The other point is acting on deep convictions without unnecessary suspicion. For instance, if the new south/eastern nation is attacked by a foreign country, I see the Igbo, Ibibio, Ijaw, Isoko, Edo, Tiv, Idoma pick up arms to fight the foreigner almost without asking questions. The Yoruba would demure a little and would need some special treatment before agreeing to go to war. And if woe betides the new nation and the leader happens to be Igbo or Ijaw, the Yoruba can even tell the foreign enemy that the problem is with the tribe of the new leader. Something like "Igbo ah, they are so aggressive!". They would say the same of the Ijaw too. There has been instances in a foreign country where Nigerians of Yoruba extraction were telling the host nation that the criminals in their country were mainly Igbos! Pray how can a foreign country understand that, and what do you hope to achieve by singling out fellow Nigerians for special attention and censure? So, a new nation in the south is possible minus the Yoruba. This is just the sad truth. I could be wrong, and I welcome corrections.

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People are beginning to agree with me that Nigeria is a failed state.

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WRONG ASSUMPTION!

War planning consist of strategic and tactical plans.  In the strategic part, you have propaganda and contigencies amongst other factors.  In the tactical planning, you have deployment, intelligence, demolition. . .amongst many other factors.

The Yoruba officers had the same resources at their disposal that the other officers (Northerner and Middle Belt) on the Nigerian side had but it was widely accounted and corroborated, both by their peers and foreign observers, that the mentioned Officers displayed exceptional competencies at both the strategic communication and tactical execution of the war plan.

In any war, whatever the scale, there will naturally be support and supporters. . .so you are not discounting any expectation by staging that Nigeria had support.  Of course I would expect that!  The burden would be on the Biafra side and the question must be asked that why was it Biafra did not have any international friends willing to stand by it on the war? What was ominous about the Biafran case that failed to secure support for its cause?  I must mention that support for Nigeria was wholesale and it was not specific to Yoruba because from the onset England did not like what Awolowo stood for and the saw him as a challenge to their authority.  Therefore supporting Yoruba military Officers in a turbulent Nigeria is by default a support for the political aspirations of Awolowo.

To the extent that children were starved, yes it was a successful military offensive.  Nobody fights a moral war. . .if it was about morallity there would be no war to begin with. . .so questioning the conscience about the starvation of children is futile. . .drop it! There is something about war and battle that the Igbo psyche is not reconciled with.  Yes you fought a war just one time, and lost it, and you suddenly view yourself as the renaissance tribe.  But no, you are not. . .definitely not in same class as Yorubas when it comes to war, intra or inter tribal.  The track record is in the history books and it speaks for itself.  Like Dudu said, your perception of yourself as warriors and the view you have of Yorubas as cowards is misplaced.  Diplomacy and tact is not cowardice.  If you have not learnt from the mistakes of your leaders in 60s, at least look to the mistakes of others around Africa and learn.  

If I war a consultant hired to advise Igbo on the way forward I will put forward five top agendas for you to chase:

1. Heal your people.

2. Negotiate your interests with rivals.  Doing that will suppress their sense of caution about your intent and thereby give you access to dominate the political front.

3. Cut your economic expansion in hostile lands.  Re-invigorate and re-brand Igboland, expand economic development in your own region and market your can-do-attitude for but domestic and international presence.  

4. Find cultural anchors with international appeal and put it on the global map.

5. Empower your people and commit, with resolute, never again to fight a lost battle.  If it cannot be won, its not worth your while starting it or allowing your inpulse to pull you into it.  (After many wars, all of which by the way was won, this is what the Yorubas have learnt - RESTRAINT!)

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@Sapeleguy,

Comments are free but I did not expect you to join him in his choice of language.

Anyway,it will take a while to give and take , one step after the other and I see the

contribution of Bamaguje (real name?)as one in a series from all sides of the divide

and will keep it in view.

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This assessment by Nafata at first glance appears fine, but is flawed when you scratch the surface. After gazing into his crystal ball of armegeddon, his ultimate solution is to maintain the status quo of centralisation in the  three legged beast called Nigeria.

We are asking for true federalism and resource control, why should that cause the country to implode?

The northern religious arrogance that he believes needs to revert to secularism, is an empty and polite pacifier to the south. Hell will freeze over first, before the north gives up sharia.

In this piece, others are continually referred to as ' inept, pea brained, self serving, igbo cry babies, etc etc. The worst he can find for his kind is 'arrogant and parochial.'

This Bamaguje character is either being mischievous or clearly intoxicated and confused from the gutter fumes of Katsina.

Either way we must beware of the wolves in sheep's clothing.

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I'm impressed by Nafata Bamaguje's two-part piece. Excellent!

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@bEAF,with all due respect,.No matter what or how long it takes, we shall cit down and talk.

This has been the case in all circumstances. We must still talk to express our views for or against any matter/problem and jointly

find a way out. The issues you raised are of course some of the topics to be on the agenda.

My anger here is the total neglect of these matters by our so called lawmakers. I do not see the legislators discussing these matters ,

only budget, oversight and  constituency projects. I am sure you do not want my comments on the executive. These arms of government

are supposed to interface and engage us in rigorous debates on essential national issues, but for where?

Me, I no know oH. I am not happy as you are, am very disappointed on these trends but as you can see, even MEND that has faced them

squarely has been tamed. This is not to say that I totally agree with their mission anyway.

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If Naija Scatter (2)

Written by Nafata Bamaguje

Saturday, 15 August 2009 06:49

IF NAIJA SCATTER (2)

Not even the hyped Sovereign National Conference (SNC) can guarantee the peaceful dismemberment Asari Dokubo et al want. There are already too many flashpoints waiting to be ignited - Ilorin Yoruba/Fulani, Hausa /Middle belt minorities, Southern / Northern Kaduna, Tiv/Jukun/Nassarawa, Borno Christians / Muslims and of course the volatile Niger Delta.

Fulani Jihadists won’t take kindly to voluntarily surrendering Ilorin to Yoruba. Nor is sovereignty over Kaduna likely to be peacefully decided between the Zazzau Jihadists and Southern Kadunas. Neither would Ijaws give up their dream of the Izon super-state championed by Edwin Clark, just because some of the non-Ijaw Niger Deltans with whom Ijaws cohabit decide to opt out via the hyped SNC.

Similarly, Northern Islamists won’t give up their utopian fantasy of a Saudi or Taliban-type Sharia paradise just because Borno Christians or we Maguzawa (Hausa traditionalists) object.

When the violent conflagration ensues, no one will come to our rescue. No international organization (UN, AU, ECOWAS) can mobilize enough peace-keepers to pacify a conflict-ridden nation of 150 million people wracked by numerous fratricidal inter-ethnic wars. That would be a logistic nightmare. At best the US led Africom will secure our offshore oil facilities to ensure uninterrupted flow of crude oil.

I therefore implore my fellow compatriots to make Nigeria work as the alternative would be an apocalyptic catastrophe. Nigerians would become refugees throughout Africa. Already most of these other African countries barely tolerate Nigerians living among them.

Our political and opinion leaders should rise up to their leadership responsibilities and stop fanning the embers of ethno-religious discord with incendiary comments and policies for short-term, self-serving political goals. I am particularly referring to the following:

- The inept Niger Delta leaders who seem incapable of utilizing their abundant resources to improve the living standards of their people, but prefer to divert attention and chase the shadows of “parasitic North”. Rivers state reportedly had 100 billion naira stashed in commercial banks, and ethnic jingoists are still making noise about derivation as if lack of funds is the problem. This is a state that until the recent drop in crude oil production occasioned by MEND attacks, received more revenue allocation than all seven states in the North-East zone.

- The self-serving so-called militants who have accumulated tens of billions of Naira from bunkering, kidnap ransoms, extortion from oil companies and from South-south state governments, but haven’t spent one kobo of their staggering loot to provide roads, schools, hospitals or jobs for the people they claim to be fighting for.

Tompolo was reportedly on the payroll of Delta state government to the tune of N100 million monthly. NNPC also paid hundreds of millions of naira to “militants” to dissuade them from blowing up pipelines. Our bungling slowpoke President is about to compound matters with another 50 billion naira bribe for these glorified criminals who should be in jail.

- The crybaby Igbos who instead of calling their errant non-performing and even treacherous leaders to order, are forever whining about marginalization, even when they are favourably represented at all levels of government.

- The parochial so-called Northern leaders who for short-term political goals, pander to bigoted Islamists and impose Sharia - albeit watered down - in direct contravention of our unambiguously secular constitution, that is intended to guarantee inclusive equality of all Nigerians across the federation regardless of creed.

By arrogating to ourselves the special prerogative to violate our secular constitution, we in the core North place ourselves above other Nigerians who are bound by the same constitution.

It is this Islamic supremacist arrogance with its offensive notion of special entitlement that has pitted the core North against other Nigerians, and prompted Gideon Orkar et al to boot us out of the country.

We seem to have learnt nothing from that sordid incident, as we continue to unnecessarily antagonize our other compatriots, particularly the non-Muslim South whose oil wealth sustains the North. Even Middle Belters no longer wish to be identified as Northerners in order to distance themselves from us.

The same Islamic supremacist mindset is also responsible for the incessant religious violence that has rendered Arewa unattractive for much needed investment required to end our economic dependence on the South. To compound matters, the repeated violence often targets our southern compatriots whose land provides the wealth that sustains the North. What ingratitude…biting the hand that feeds us!!

Islamist violence in the North will not end anytime soon, until Northern political and opinion leaders firmly support secularism in our multi-religious nation and stop fueling Islamic supremacist intolerance with inflammatory Sharia rhetoric.

No surprise therefore that former Borno Sharia commissioner, Alhaji Buji Fai also turned out to be the major sponsor of Boko Haram. Sharia politics prevented Borno state government from nipping Boko Haram in the bud, even when confronted with damning intelligence report.

Using oil wealth from the non-Muslim south to operate Sharia law that by definition discriminates against non-Muslims, and to run an unconstitutional Islamic police that destroys their livelihood is utterly provocative. In essence, we in the Islamist core North use the oil wealth from the non-Muslim South to oppress Southerners in the North…at least that’s how many of them see it.

Little wonder the overwhelmingly non-Muslim Niger Deltans are pissed off, and are unwilling to share with us the nation’s wealth located in their domain as they denounce us as “parasites” even though we are not the only non-oil producing “parasites” in this country. For the avoidance of doubt, the term “parasitic North”, does not usually refer to Tivs or Igalas. They usually mean we in the Islamist core North.

Those pea-brained short-sighted ethnic jingoists who think because they have oil they can go it alone, fail to appreciate the ephemeral nature of oil wealth. Not just because oil wells will eventually run dry, but also because in the near future crude oil may no longer be the prized commodity it is today. Increasing concern about global warming purportedly due to green-house gases from combustion of fossil fuels has spawned a variety of alternative technologies that may soon render crude oil obsolete as an energy source.

Our best bet for sustained economic prosperity is sticking together and harnessing our huge market potential for massive industrialization and robust economic growth. The current global economic recession has shown that a large country with a huge well harnessed market of 150 million consumers has much better economic prospects than small vulnerable economies.

China and India have weathered the storm well as they have been able to sustain impressive economic growth (>6%) despite fall in exports occasioned by the global recession, because of the huge market provided by their large population. Within the next two decades these two Asian giants will displace America and the West as economic superpowers.

A united Nigeria is Africa and the Black world’s best hope of being relevant in this emerging new world economic order. We cannot afford to be balkanized into petty ethnic fiefdoms, when Nigeria should be at the forefront of realizing Kwame Nkrumah’s dream of a unified Africa to rival and even surpass other global economic powers.

And I’m definitely not referring to Ghaddafi’s megalomanic delusion. A settler Berber-Arab wants to rule over we indigenous Black Africans and even Afro-Caribbeans. I no blame am, but our inept idiotic leaders who have repeatedly failed to rise to their leadership responsibilities here in Naija and on the African continent, despite our abundant endowments. Abi dem swear for Naija?

Nafata Bamaguje

Daura, Katsina state.

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I disagree with you on this score. I hold that this is the best option. Let us negotiate our way

through this big puzzle called Nigeria. It is possible . ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LISTEN, APPRECIATE OTHERS AND RESPECT THEM

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All these permutations remains nothing but conspiracy theory. I will not lose my sleep over such elaborate hypothesis.

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Is that the only misinformation you found, the whole article was complete garbage.

These people didn't carry out any extraordinary offenses because they had support from world super powers at the time, is it starving children you call successful offenses? Please. Tell me how the Yoruba officers were the most skilled without billions of dollars worth of arms in their reach.

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It is wrong for anybody to speculate that Anioma state was not created because of Ebonyi state. Do you know that at the last minute, somebody "stole" the 6th state from the SE and gave it to NE region? The result is SE-5 states, NE-7 states, the rest-6 each. Please correct your misinformation.

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Adekunle, Obasanjo, Ayo Banjo (Notable for the most successful Biafran offensive). Do you want other details?

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Where did you get that from?

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Thank you for that; there are so many warriors on the net pounding their chest fogetting that war is not fought on the net but on land and you would think that those who had a first-hand taste of war would be the ones most likely to abhor it.

Yoruba people have always been diplomatic but I guess some people think that diplomacy is the same as cowardice. I live them to that conclusion. I have pointed out at least on one occassion that the Yorubas were not the aggreesors in the events of the 1960s; they tried to stay neutral. But if we have to fight, then we will fight. Despite smaller than officers than the other major tribes, the most skilled and strategic officers in the war were yoruba. This is a fact.

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so now you questioning the ethnicity of Anioma IGBOS? Why is IT that people like you love to dabble into issues you don't know? My guy please worry about whatever tiny Bottom ethnic group u come from coz we sure aint worrying about you. You are clearly ignorant of who we Igbos are u are just playing the same silly games your people have played trying to balkanize Igbo land to reap benefits. Anioma no be Igbo but em you people don't see them as part of Delta state and u Dam about Asaba being capital. EEHH?

An Anioma person just told you it aint so yet you cant seem to shut up. Do I need my 1st cousins, friends from Anioma to come and tell you so. Questioning their ethnicity is like questioning the ethnicity of Kalabari who are Ijo, or Ijebu who are Yoruba. Worry about who is Fulani or Bassa or sapele among your people coz either way you are going no where with this.

Biafran troops fled the Midwest and Anioma just like they fled PH, Owerri, Enugu, Ikot Ekpene, Ikot Abasi, Bonny, Awka etc. What makes Anioma special? Those Biafran troops were also Igbos from Anioma unless you have evidence to show that no Igbo from Anioma was involved in Biafra or that they all got posted to the far East. Do u have that? No so STOP!!!

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@vangogh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis#Iran.E2.80.93Iraq_War

Charlie, you didn't even scan the article, you're just angling for showdown sha.

It is in nobodys interest to take energy resources of the map. There are usually more powerful forces at play when oil producing countries go to war.

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Again, how is this related to Iran-Iraq war? I mean the war fought between Iran and Iraq.

In any event, oil producing nations do go to war. and that is a fact.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

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Dede,

You have been told many times that what your people need is negotiation. You need the help of skilled negotiators who know how to break down barriers and achieve measurable and sustainable result that favor your interests. Bravado and threats will not get you anywhere. . .at least not where one of your rivals, the Yorubas, had history of breeding political states and empires.

Stop the aggression and insult for God's sake and use tact to subdue your opponent. Please do that!

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How wrong?

Oil was discovered in Angola in 1955, war commenced in 1975 and lasted 25yrs.

"Oil was first discovered in Angola in 1955, but production did not really start to climb until the discovery of oil offshore Cabinda in the 1960s."

Source:http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Angola's_oil_industry

Please enlighten me what the US citizens hostage crisis had to do with Iran-Iraq war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

Mr Internet can confirm this info. Use the Internet, he is your friend.

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Your analysis is just so wrong.

There were pressing matters of the US ego being bruised by Iran who were holding US citizens hostage, the rest is history.

At the time of the Angolan war, oil had not yet been discovered there etc etc etc

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Many oil-rich countries have fought wars in the past.

Iran-Iraq war.

Algeria Civil War

Angola Civil War

These are just but a few of oil-rich nations that had been engaged in war at one time or the other.

Please discount the notion that G5 can prevent any war.  If anything, oil-rich nations are prone to war. Heck! The USA is currently involved in two wars -one with a oil-rich nation.

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I hope you know that the Aro igbos if u know them have lineages and contacts with efiks and ibibios to the extent that some of their name sounds efik or ibibio but that has not stopped them from being igbos.

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First of all your quote is implying that the Igbo are a nation and not a tribe. A tribe is defined as being made up by a group of families with a single common ancestor.

Secondly somebody of "Anioma" origin has already replied to you and your here arguing about an unarguable thing. "Anioma" people worship/ed Amadioha, Ikenga, Oshimili, Ali. Okay lets say they adopted those religions. The "Anioma" wear "okpu ozo" red cap of the ozo, their language[b]s[/b] are more than 75% Igbo, most of their towns have Igbo names and most of THE "Anioma" people bear Igbo names, and I'm talking about Okafor, Ikechuku, etc.

Thirdly, if you knew anything about the Igbo  you would know that they are so diverse that most people identify with their clans and tribes when set in the issues of Eastern Nigeria.

I'd really appreciate it if you bring reliable evidence the next time you want to say the "ANIOMA" are not 'Igbo'

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The fact that I speak english does not make me english. Just as you speaking hausa will not make you hausa. Language doesn't prove origin.

"Strictly speaking, igbo is a linguistic group or a language, not a tribe, as all Ibo-speaking people do not claim origin from any common ancestor"

This quote is from Sir Dennis Osadebe

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The article is nice, however it is has a very myopic view of the Niger Delta, there is NOT a single oil rich region in the world that is allowed to fall into total chaos.

Western society will NOT and has NEVER allowed such a thing to happen for obvious reasons.

If the Niger Delta attempts to separate the G5 will have to ask:

- is it in our best interest to support them.

- will they be more reliable than Nigeria.

the answer to both questions is yes.

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to know who igbos are is easy.anyone that says bia,has the 4 igbo market days and believes in chi is igbo.anyone that has omenala,omenana,omenani,omenali,omeneli is simply igbo.nigeria is better off together because we all need each other.trying to divide igbos is what has been drawing nigeria backwards.

@sapeleguy.these same people you are wasting your time trying to give them new identity were thesame people that killed okotie eboh.all igbos suffered and are still suffering distrust because of that.unlike rivers igbos they dont have as much oil as the eastern igbos nor do they have as much human resources.eastern igbos gain nothing associating with them but they are without doubt 100% igbos.

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First I will like to see the writers evidence of which he has referenced none.

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If you think the writer, or should i say nobody, is telling lies or has made mistakes, then it would be helpful to highlight and disprove these errors with evidence.

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The Yoruba is The Weak Link?

Whoever said that the yoruba is a weak link does not live or knows what happens in Nigeria.  What do you define by weakness. This Biafra Aftermath stereotype should stop now.

Yoruba have one of the best political structure. We the yorubas have an ancient Civilization and we believe that Worship is a Private business. I believe other tribes have this trait so why single out the yoruba.

I am dissapointed in Dede1 for making such a statement.

The most strongest link is the Hausa because the have a command structure. The oil you are clamoring is nothing. I have been living outing Nigeria for over a decade and paying heavy taxes here I have not died. I dont care about your oil and so does alot of people.

The other Strong link is the yoruba because it allows for freedom of religion. Another is the Igbo because it allow for flourishment.

The writer of the Article is right but it is in the hand of God to keep Nigeria. There are alot of people that want to be yoruba we dont need to force them to join a yoruba agenda. From what I know the Yoruba state that stood for months without any allocation from the Government is Lagos state so where is the weakness.

What makes a yoruba weak the language or the food? So many Ibo and hausa speak yoruba and eat Amala.

Lets stop this tribal pushing.

NO NIGERIAN IS WEAK THE IGBO IS STRONG THE YORUBA IS STRONG WE ALL STRONG GOD BLESS NIGERIA

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Leave that thing, your saying Yoruba people don't big their ethnicity up ever? Your saying they never attack others?

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The article you posted is pure rubbish and was posted by a nobody, you can do better than that. I have family that are grouped into "ANIOMA" and let me tell you the only people who use Anioma as an identity either don't know what Igbo clan their from or are wannabe politicians or are both.

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I, as a peaceful loving human being, would love to see a peaceful dissolution of

Nigeria if we ever get to that junction. However, I am a realist who knows that

dissolution will not occur as a result of a referendum amongst all the ethnic groups.

More than likely, a break-up is likely to be triggered by an event similar to

the events of the 60's (Pray not)

Here we are speculating what minorities would do. It is foolhardy to assume what

the position of any minority group would be. As they say in the old US of A, “assumption is the mother of all failures.

The writer of this article has been very objective and has captured some likely

scenarios, but it seems that we are hard of hearing.  Some dismiss the fears

of this writer as fear mongering and some are hell bent on treading on a path that can only lead to perdition.

War is hell! Those who have experienced it never hope to see it again and will never wish it for their worst enemy.

To put it in real perspective, there will be mayhem, hunger, deaths, infectious diseases,

refugees, etc.  Life as you know it today will seize! You will wish for Nigeria.

No fear mongering –just the facts ma’am.

Betrayals will be everywhere, because when alliances are formed, it would not be based

upon sentiments, such as; long standing relationship, ethnic similarities etc, but on self preservation.

It is everyman for himself!

For example, if Jaw folks (not picking on Ijaw, pls permit me) perceive that their interests

would be better served by the North, they could roll with the North. It is whoever you think

will be victorious you’ll align with.

Point is, in times of war, you can never assume who your friends are because friends

will turn to foes, and foes to friends.  I’ll recommend we acquaint ourselves with WWII

and other recent wars to understand the brutality of war and war betrayals.

The solution to all of this is simple: Demand good governance in your state.

Join a social conscious group, write articles, vent your displeasure on Nairaland,

Nigeria Village Sq, and other similar outlets. Let your focus be solely on your state

for now. Do not concern your self with the affairs of neighboring states unless

they interfere with yours. Let your gaze be laser-like on your governor.

Offer alternative opinions to your governor when necessary.

Success of one governor will eventually breed success in other sates as

constituents begin to demand for good governance. It will be similar to the period when we had regions.

Awo success in the West was lauded all over and it spurs other regions to respond with their own initiatives.  

Did you know that Kano used to be the textile capital of Africa? It was Ahmadu Bellos’s

response to the West.  Success begets success.

I believe Nigeria it is for now until such a time that we are educated enough

to form separate countries without war and its consequences.

Good-luck to all.

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An uncommonly sensible post. Thank you.

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I wonder ohhh because through out the thread I dont see insults commin from yoruba or speculation on whether

edo or itsekiri will join them.(most yorubas on this NL didn't even pay attention to this thread)

or anywhere in thread where yorubas state they are the best tribe in Nigeria.

Yorubas dont need to yab nonsense in order to feel self assured.

Theres no competition and there never has been.

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People often forget that the reason that Nigeria is not working is because it's not a union or a marriage of choice. Once you applied the principle of choice towards a breakup, why should there be a problem? Who will you be fighting as the world is watching.

Allow every nationality to choose if they want to be alone or form a union with another, no matter how small or how big you are. At least you will be going into the union with your eyes wide open and know exactly where you are signing the future of your children to.

That is exactly what the Soviet and Czechslovakia did and it works wonders and peacefully.

But the Serb in Yugoslavia went in the opposite direction, forcing people into unwanted marriage, hence a bloody war and in the end, all those nations did get their self determinations. So why fight in the first place when it will happen anyway or either way eventually?

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I do not get it, why do grown men (i am assuming) get on the net and start throwing insults?

Why do SOME igbo people always come on here and insult Yoruba people?

Why do people in glass houses throw stones? Is it because they are foolish enough to think that other people do not have stones to throw?

Why do some Igbo people always think they are the best tribe in Nigeria?

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no matter how u anaylis the issue of igbos of delta they still remain igbos period.and as nigeria is right now no tribe in nigeria can point a finger or compare themself with the igbos in nigeria, in terms of self development.exacpt the corrupt yorubas who are actually using the northerners to hijack the resource in the niger delta.

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Udezue - Evidence seems to suggest that Core East will be okay but any attempts at expansionism may create bitter problems.  See below.

"Any Anioma person who feels inadequate unless called "Anioma-Igbo," has serious identity problem. Osadebay and his group coined and christened us with the name "Anioma." They were satisfied with what it meant and what it represented for our people. The Igbocentric conception of Anioma people as "our kith and kin across the Niger" is a fallacy of baseless proportion. Thus, Igbocentrism has not only set the terms of the debate on Anioma identity, it has consumed our intellectual autonomy to counterpoise it with Aniomacentric methodology. This capitulation to Igbocentric paradigm of identity is part of a wider syndrome of intellectual dependency precipitated by homegrown colonialism.

We may ask, where was this "kith and kin across the Niger" platitude

    * when our forbears fought the Ekumeku wars of 1883 to 1914, which pitted them against the British through the instrumentality of the Royal Niger Company to dominate trade, culture, social and political lives of our people;

    * when the Second Division of the Nigerian Army commanded by Murtala Mohammed marched into Anioma areas in pursuit of the fleeing 'Biafran Expeditionary Force' and massacred our people at Asaba and Isheagu with such macabre ruthlessness and vapidity;

    * when in 1970 several high ranking Anioma military officers were detained for months (one of them for years) in Port Harcourt prison after Biafra surrendered on January 12, 1970, even though as these officers put it to the writer in their letter to him dated June 7, 1970, to seek help from Governor Ogbemudia, wrote, ", that all other officers of former Eastern Region origin (Ibos, Efiks, Ijaws etc) have been released, " and

    * when in 1996 our people were assured of support from Ndi Igbo during our quest for Anioma state?

Anioma state was not created instead Ebonyi was, thanks to the last minute turn around and support from Ndi Igbo.

This experience was articulated by Professor Ijomah during the Congress of Izu-Anioma held at the POCO Plaza, Ogwashiuku, March 3rd, 1998, when he said, ",  it was agreed during the last state creation exercise that Anioma State should be created. When the stakes were down, the Ibos across the Niger abandoned the Anioma quest at the last hour and supported the creation of Ebonyi State which was not seriously being canvassed before then, causing Anioma to lose." (The ANIOMA, Vol. 10, No 1, May, 1999, p. 11).

Anioma people should not be hoodwinked by Ndi Igbo. Recently, Igbos have renewed their gimmickry of support for the creation of Anioma state. All they want is their grandiose illusion of 'Greater Igbo' comprising Anioma and some parts of Rivers State."

http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2009/may/111.html

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the igbos, efiks, ibibios and other relative tribe all inter-marry. They see themselves as kith and kin. You would be really surprised by which tribes will join the east. I know it won't be call Biafra though, if it ever happens.

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BTW where do the far easterners (Efik/Ibibio) go? I guess with the Igbo.

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Yoruba people hhhmmmmm ur own na complicated stuff since una get plenty fulani wannabe muslims.

Edo hhm me thinks they will just roll with their fellow Edo people. Why would they even entertain the NortH? They are very different.

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