Most muslim youths may never go to US again until God-knows-when.
Nigeria may be seen as a terrorist nation.
What do you think?
Most muslim youths may never go to US again until God-knows-when.
Nigeria may be seen as a terrorist nation.
What do you think?
in fact what are the US going to call those who kill their citizens on a daily basis; they look for a mild name like serial killer; as far as am concern that is the same as terror. more people die in US more than the rest of the world put together, yet they are not call terrorist.
Who created Osama? US
WHO created Farouk? Osama group, so logically we can say the US created Farouk
there is no cause for alarm, I don't know why we are making mountain out of nothing; we have been on various list for many years and nothing happened; the US is only trying to shift the blame to Nigeria simply becos they know it would affect their image more if they accept the fact that they knew about Farouk even long before the Nigerian authorities.
It is simple if they place us on their list, we can get a piece of paper and place them on the list too; nonsense.
If they plan to screen our people with the new camera, then they should remember that they us four(4) of the same type of cameras; so there is no big deal if they screen our people so long as our authorities should be prepared to give them the same treatment in our airport whenever they arrive.
I imagine a situation when a US top executives in any of the oil companies will be screen the same way Nigerians will be screened.
8 Saudis were part of the people who blew the WTC in 2001, yet Saudi is not on the list of a terror nation - double standard or what are we going to call this nonsense.
The Tragedy of Umar F. Mutallab
The first involvement of a Nigerian in terrorism has reduced the nation to the status of a child. Immediately the chap was identified as a Nigerian, we were all on our knees begging America, doing our best to convince it that we are not terrorists: "Wallahi, this boy is a black sheep. We are law abiding citizens wherever we go overseas. Yes. At home, we are known for fraud, election rigging, corruption, armed robbery, bank robbery, cultism, human trafficking, religious intolerance, concealment of truth to our citizens, we tell them lies and even engage in forgery at high places. Eh. We have also been pushing cocaine for over two decades now. But Wallahi – America – we are not terrorists. It is not in our character… Do anything with Umar Mutallab. The boy deserves it. We completely dissociate ourselves from him…. Chinekeeeee!!! This boy has shamed us. He wants to put us in trouble."
It is true. We are not lying. We are not terrorists. If we were, we would have blown off our leaders first before any other person and effectively rid the country of corruption. However, courtesy of our inherent African docility, the people whose actions have caused so much misery on our land are walking about Scot-free. They would not do so if we had sufficient thymotic potential to blow their planes or shoot them down at gatherings. They would not have had the temerity to rig our elections or the guts to steal our wealth.
Yet, it appears that America is not convinced by the confession chorus voice of Nigerian officials, non-governmental organizations, religious and secular, at home and overseas. Nigeria produced maitatsine and, recently, boko haram in addition to a whole catalogue of transnational criminal activities. By now, the world has concluded that every Nigerian is either a fanatic or a fraudster, unless he is proved innocent. This is a golden opportunity to impose some severe security measures against these fraudulent people, America insists.
The first step has been announced within a week of the event: body scanners will be installed in all our four international airports such that a record of the anatomy of every Nigerian traveler will be documented. Fingerprints are not sufficient. "Would these scanners show the Unclad bodies of people?" a foreign journalist asked a Nigerian official, three times. And three times he evaded the question: "It is just in case the passenger is carrying something on his body, the machine will detect it." I laughed. The truth is that the scanners would show your Unclad natural body, including everything. I had that experience with a similar equipment at Heathrow Airport in December 2004 when I was singled out, for no stated reason, and scanned before I boarded a British Airways flight back to Nigeria. To assuage my feelings, the official showed me the picture and said they were just testing the equipment. Behold, there was Tilde, ad naturalis. I did not protest, lest some cocaine is planted in my luggage. My destination, I reminded myself, was Abuja, not prison in the distant land of homo leucodermaticus. Scanning our bodies may not be the only measure, I suspect. Nigerians must be prepared for more.
But why are we jittery about this singular act, heinous as it is? Are we the first terrorist country in the world? Did we produce Carlos – The Jackal, Al-Nagrahi, IRA, Timothy McVeigh, or the 911 bombers? Are we worse terrorists than Kenya, Tanzania, Sudan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, or Libya, countries where many terrorists lived and carried out their threats? Are we worse than Saudi Arabia, the country that produced Osama Bin Laden and 18 out of the 19 terrorists that bombed the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001? Why have we not heard the officials and citizens of these countries pleading against any possible collective victimization by America? Why are scanners not installed at Jeddah and Riyadh International Airports? Instead, we saw Obama paying a visit to King Abdullah and bowing his head to the King in respect, as he bowed before Queen Elizabeth III during the G20 meeting last year. I doubt very much if the Arabs will allow their privacy be so encroached on - down to the anatomical level - on their own land.
I think something is wrong with us and our leadership. Would this be how we will respond when one day we find ourselves in conflict with America? I believe General Victor Malu will not be surprised, having lost his job simply by refusing to "co-operate" with the military experts who America sent during his tenure as Chief of Army Staff. Malu did not know that our Nigerianness exists only at the mercy of the only superpower in the world today. Obasanjo proved him wrong. "Hey boy," Obasanjo told Malu, "When America says 'jump', simply ask: 'how high?" Commot jare. The munci man has since been enjoying his pounded yam in his native Benue. Literally speaking, the Defence Towers in Abuja are not for his kind.
On contemplation, I think the real reason why we elite are afraid of our newly acquired feather is because of the inconvenience that we will suffer from whenever we visit overseas or the opportunities we will miss in our hideout countries where we send our children to study after celebrating the collapse of our public schools at home; where we take our wives for delivery after we have allowed our hospitals to deteriorate; where we hide the billions we steal daily from public coffers; where some of us think is the Promised Land. Think about it: what restrictive measure would the average Nigerian, who will never have the opportunity to board even a domestic flight be afraid of? Will the airport scanners scan him on his farm? Indeed, we are crying for ourselves, for our interests, not for Nigeria.
Here, I have much to doubt about the sincerity of Umar's father, Alhaji Mutallab. I initially thought that he has been very heroic in alerting the Nigerian and American security officials about the indoctrination of his son. He must be one of the most patriotic citizens of the world, I thought. But in fairness to the son, I now think differently. I was only naïve. The father must own up and accept that he exposed the son to the risk of indoctrination. He knows his son better than anyone. He should. At what point did he start to notice the defiance of his son and what did he do about it?
This chap has been complaining of loneliness since when the father isolated him from this country and sent him to a British elite secondary school in Togo. Doesn't his life in that school initiate his anti-white racist doctrines before he even met with terrorist groups later in the United Kingdom? Why did not the father return him to Nigeria and enroll him in one of our best secondary schools or private universities. Why was Umar ignored by his father until he became a prey of the vicious elements that exploited his racist sentiments?
Also, would the poor and lonely Umar have been conscripted into international terrorism if his father were poor? Would he have been to Togo or Britain? International terrorism, as I said in an interview with Radio Deutche Welle, is a product of affluence, not religion. The overwhelming majority of terrorists – from Bin Laden down to their latest flag bearer, Umar Mutallab – are people from affluent backgrounds, homes that have links with the West and have firm roots in its economic order.
Umar's father did not get this calculation wrong. By alerting the police, he has secured his wealth but not his son. He has conveniently surrendered the son, against the biological instinct of protection, to the FBI, in protection of his economic interests, most likely, instead of taking all necessary measures to restrict him to this country, getting the authorities to seize his passport and sponsor a program of his de-indoctrination. After all, the father is well aware of the Hausa adage that says ba gagararre sai bararre – there is no outlaw except the condoned. The father cannot, therefore, claim that he was taken by surprise because he was rich enough, pretty rich, to buy multimillion pound mansion for the family in London where the son lived. He was not living on campus. Someone here – the father – does not do his duty well. He should own up.
The second blame should be dumped at the doorstep of American counter-terrorism officials. Obama has every right to look at them straight in the eye and tell them that they have not done their job well. There was a report indicating that al-Qaida is training a Nigerian for a terror attack on an American Airline. Then there is a Nigerian father who complained of the indoctrination of his son and the son has already been placed on America's Terrorist Watch list. Would it be clear even to the most incompetent agent that Umar was the most likely person? How many Nigerians are there on the list after all?
Umar's ordeal should serve as a wakeup call to all Nigerian parents who send their children overseas for studies. I know it is inevitable in many cases given the failure of our educational system here at home. But each of them can, and should, do something to salvage it, in his own way. I believe Alhaji Mutallab must be regretting this way: "Had I known, I would have built a model secondary school and a even a private university in my hometown Funtua where Umar and other Nigerian children would study without being exposed to indoctrination by people alien to our culture… A good secondary school would not cost half the price of one of my houses in London… Had I known…"
The whole idea of sending children to study abroad must be done only out of necessity, as Dr. Yusuf Qardawi once said. Where necessary, they must not be sent until, among other conditions, they have acquired the cognitive maturity that will protect them from indoctrination.
Please let those of us who have children studying overseas keep an eye over them. Terrorism is not the only thing we need to guard them against. There are just plenty other negative tendencies that they must not be allowed to indulge in. We must ensure we engage them constantly such that we can understand the cognitive developments they are going through. We must not, even for a day, fail to listen to them or attend to their needs especially for company. And we can do this today so easily through modern communications facilities. It is our duty. We must not delegate it to school authorities.
Umar had access to wealth but it did not buy him the protection he needed as a teenager. Poor Umar! Surely, he has been a victim of three people: an incapable father, a vicious group of terrorists, and incompetent and negligent American security agencies. He could have been saved the doom of becoming a criminal of this order. This beautiful looking son of Africa was, therefore, a prey. His story is a tragedy. He set out looking for knowledge but would end up serving a twenty year prison term. I pray that by the time he comes out – for he will still come out pretty young, 43 – he would have contemplated enough to purge himself of the indoctrination he went though. He would then return to African and reside among us quietly, enjoying the docility that is typical of our passive continent, or suffering the consequences of its lack of thymos.
By Dr Aliyu Tilde
1 January 2007
frm: Yemen> Dubai> Nig>
1. Is US tellin us dat d
of all these places is so so
poor? cos he should hav
been carrying his bomb along
2. Why didnt Umar
bomb the plane while
preparin d bomb for about
30mns in d toilet? He should
hav if indeed hes a suicide
3. We've heard from
passengers on the plane on
we hear from Umar also? I'm
sure he is no dumb head.
So if we are already denying
n disapprovin him of his
action then u neva can tell.
We'll keep our hands
crossed n wait til d Jan 10
This could hav been a US
inner propaganda, they'll
make n break countries in d
name of the UN.
They could capitalize on one
of the countries Umar has
been thru n call us terrorist.
His fathers report to the FBI
could hav been their tip off
for a potential candidate.
Hav we ever had a rethink
that havin destroyed their
WTC, to propel the
deployment of their troops to
Arabian Peninsula! n siphonin
their oil. Bombs hav killed
more civilians- children,
women- than soldiers in
there war torn countries.
I really wonder who the
Nothing is more aggravating, annoying or more embarrassing than working in an open office with white guys and girls who keep talking about this bomber, and casting glances at your Nigerian/West African backside. You keep your head down and try to do your job but you keep hearing words like Nigerians, Muslims, tried to bomb a plane, tried to kill 300 people, he is so young, what was wrong with him, are they always like that?
When you look up, the oyinbos chatting about this bomber look right back at you and you feel angry, embarrassed, uncomfortable. You want to say something, but what is there to say? You just face down and keep working and cuss the Muttallabs of this earth with all the curses. You know in your heart of hearts that this punk has just made that corporate ladder/promotion ladder just a little bit more difficult to climb. And you know why, because they do not trust us black people, but now and more especially, they got more reasons to fence you out a Nigerian young man. Life is happening.
The question shouldn't be what america will think or do to desperate nigeria but what is actually driving once bubbly and life loving nigerians to the despicable state insanity of killing in the name of aalah?Chaos strive in the midst of backwardness.Islamic fundamentalism,just like perverted science is a threat to human and the entire universe existence.Rat race.
Whiteman is not our obstacle,rather our problems stems from stack ignorance and self-destruction,if anybody should be eliminated at all,they should be african politicians and the so-called elites,they are the immediate enemies of the common man.
ofcourse am not dejected or miserable unless u are. am just saying that these niggas just jump into nairaland to claim they are nigerians. just suddenly this mutallab's issue came on and they are rejecting nigeria and her passports. saying they have got other countries'. so i think of this incidents should occur so they'll be treated like outcasts there and u'll see them running into naija. piss offfffff
this is for a merry xmas and new year to real nigerians
frankly, i don't give a rat yansh because as far as i'm concerned, this story stinks.
in other words, there's more to this "act of terrorism" that is being reported.
now tell me, if this dude was a real terrorist, why the heck did he wait till he got to Michigan to try to detonate the bomb?
why didn't he detonate it in midair before the plane landed if he was a real terrorist?
and why didn't the freaging FBI elevate this joker's status from the watch list to the no-fly list database despite watching him for the last two years?
hmm, God's own country at its best. . . a strategic way to build a case against Nigeria for harboring terrorists. hence, a possible Niger/Delta invasion, which explains why Navy Seals have been sited in that region lately. Peace!
don't u think hate is rather a strong word? makes you sound like some miserable, dejected person that despise others' successes.
if anyone wants to brag about having several passports then let them go ahead and make a fool out of themselves doing so.
I can't understand why you're so full of hatred for people YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW!
na wa for you o ol' boy, life too short for you to dey hate people o. Peace!
It is a pity for Nigeria at a time like this when the government is spending Millions of Naira on REBRANDING the image of our great Nation. Today on all international Televition and Radio Station the name of Nigeria is always mention along with this bad happanings. You hear them say Umar Farouk Mutallab The Nigerian BOMBER, Non of us call say umar Farouk is not one us though he is not Representing our intrest
The brat is an embarrassment to Nigeria. Nigerians are known for doing things well. When we work, we work very hard. When we play, we play very hard. When we cheat, steal, loot, defraud, we do that very well too. This fellow can't do a thing as simple as blowing himself up! He should have blown up into so many bits, no one would have been able to decipher that he was a Nigerian! Embarrassment.
At any rate, however we look at it, his case is a failure of parenting. I wonder how many discussions he overheard at home concerning religious disturbances in Nigeria. He simply took it up to the next level. Look at all the riots in Nigeria over Sharia, Miss World, Exam invigilations etc. Do you for a moment think Farouk had no knowledge of who started it? Please!
Actually who gives a crap about what the US and other nations are going to do? Or should I say, what will they do that they haven't done before?
Is it the 150m + Nigerians who are prolly never going to leave the country till they die? Or the maybe 10m+ Nigerians abroad, who don't want to be humiliated? Who is really concerned about all this? If one Naija-born rich kid goes rogue, what is that to me?
I think the issue is overplayed, especially by Internet hacks, especially you guys on Nairaland. As far as I'm concerned, it should not have any kind of backlash on Nigeria or its people. That is, if the government, Dora and co, know how to manage such incidents. She raised a lot of righteous indignation about the Sony incident; she had better know how to manage this one.
After all the Al Quaeda deputy leader is an Egyptian. I don't see Egyptians in any kind of huff, or being stereotyped by the media because of that. Egypt is also a strong US ally. In fact I work with a Somalian dude, and I don't see him weeping about how his country is being rubbished in the media. He holds a UN refugee travel document, and a UAE residence permit.
In any case, if you have an American, British, or even Haitian passport, good for you. No need to 'thank God you have one'; it is moot. If you are looking for a visa, well, stuff happens. You just have to grin and bear it. They may just give you if your story is straightWe're in the same boat to some extent, i.e. I am a full-fledged Naija with a Naija passport, and I am not flustered in the least. Once they start denying people visas on Walter Carrington, na to give them gap. If I need a holiday, I go to Botswana or Ghana, abi?
I once read an article by Prof. Osato Giwa-Osagie, who most of you have probably heard of; he delivered the Babangidas' last baby, Halima, in Aso Rock. He said he visited the US during the '94 World Cup, and was treated with great courtesy by the immigration people; six months later, he visited again, and was submitted to a full body search, and his rectum was even checked for drug insertion. That was in '94, when there was no Al Quaeda noise. These guys blow hot and cold jare. Who cares what they think? They should allow people to rest jare.
who the f@ck is this hypocrite prick??
thanks to NL, we can see your previous posts.his previous posts:
''The whole of the North needs to be stripped and caged and isolated. then the US should be invited to bomb the whole place. All hausas should die there. they are the scourge of Naija and islam''-Today at 05:54:15 AM
''Deaath to the Babangidas and their muslim focker followers. All you naija people looking to shed tears are no better than battered wives who run back to their husbands. We need their assets seized and their souls flayed for an inteest of 1000 years in hell for each injustice''-Today at 03:00:11 AM
''they should freeze giving visas to muslim northern naijas immediately at least for the next 10 years''-Today at 05:59:53 AM
and he later posts:
How dare you insult Islam!!! We should execute righteous vengeance of bloodshed for our holiness. you will all feel our wrath!!!!!!!!!We are the righteous ones you infidels. The noth shall flood the south and its kfirs with blood!!!!!!!!-Today at 04:20:02 AM
and in a thread that says 'who are the terrorists?'', he posts:
these guys, the muslims -Today at 02:27:42 AM
first you act like you're against the hausas and you later act like you're supporting.then you act like youre a muslim and act like you're against
looks like you've been up all night acting like a b@stard.
@MODERATOR, this guy should be banned asap and the posts deleted. he's going to cause nothing but trouble
You asked all the right questions and you bet most analysts and Journalists here in the U.S. have asked the same questions especially the one about why not blow the plane way before "ready for landing" or while in the cranky bathroom for 30mins. I live in Houston Tx and they have even traced some of His visit here for an islamic conference.
My answer is:
The whole philosophy of this new wave of terrorism is to make a more pronounced impact on the U.S. soil. Continue to take terrorism to the U.S. door steps andleave Americans in perpetual trepidation and you bet that's already working.
Secondly, The guy has Nigerian blood, we are not Somalis or some of those North Africans(Egyptians, Moroccans,Libyans or Algerians) known for silly bravery.
Thirdly, I guess also that the young man did not have enough time to be brainwashed in Yemen so He flustered or "blushed" when it mattered most.
Finally, It has to be God, yes nothing but the pure manipulation of God to spare both his life and that of over 289 passengers onboard.
i can't imagine that guys would be looking at me Unclad every time i travel through nigerian airport. for some reason i dont feel so bad about going through the full body scanner abroad. probably because it'll be whites and it'll be easy to ignore them so i don't really care. but in nigeria, it might even be a guy i know, this is so bad!
ANALYSING THE ROLE OF UMAR FAROUK ABDULMUTALLAB
Ladies and Gents, Fellow Nigerians and the World at large; please permit me your time and let us re-examine the role of UMAR FAROUK ABDUL MUTALLAB failed mission to attempt/ bomb the Detroit-bound Northwest Airlines Flight carrying 279 passengers and 11 crew members.
I have taken a keen time/ interest to read all comments and news report on this very ugly story and issues. However, something seems to be missing here.
From news report, (1) the parents was quoted as to have before this day alerted the Nigerian security and U.S embassy in Abuja about his disappearance and sudden change in character.
(2) The Interpol, Nigerian security and the US were supposed to look into the report of the parents and track his movement since his parents have already expressed their fear.
(3) This same guy bought his ticket in Ghana, flew from Nigeria to Amsterdam with explosives and was not dictated till he tries to activate his bomb in the US while the plane is landing.
(4) He was in the toilet for more than 3o minutes and when he came out, he wrapped himself with blanket; when the airhostess saw fire on him, and was asked he said he has a bomb.
(5) Some guys descended on him, including a film director, he was overpowered and the fire extinguished. Etc.
In my opinion, I think this was a staged game and a setup for the US to come on Africa/ else where to continue their war on fake terrorism. Why did he not prepare his bomb materials and do the business while on the air en-route to US.
If he actually wanted to die, which I doubt considering the amount of time he spent in the toilet; he would have done it even from there. However, we thank God it did not happen.
Now have anyone read the book by NAOMI KLEIN ‘’THE SHOCK DOCTRINE’’? This is all about CAPITALISM.
Please don’t misunderstand me, I am not a Muslim nor do I support TERRORISM, but I would rather look at things in a more critical form with an inner mind to understand the play of things. The world is crazy and they want to play us like games.
Believe it or not. The first question I was asked on Monday when I went to work was whether I would be going to Nigeria soon to fish out the rest of the terrorists. I could not believe it when I first saw it on CNN. Unfortunately, it's one more negative stain we will have to contend with. We just have to bear in mind that neither depravity nor virtue is the monopoly of any tribe. So, let's just think in terms of People of African Descent (PAD) than Housa, Igbo, Yoruba, Efik, Ibibio, etc. Remember, whether you are at Charles De Gaul in France, Frankfurt International in Germany, John F. Kennedy in the USA, or Heathrow in London, they don't care about your tribe. To them, you are just another Black person to be dehumanized. So, let's not take our eyes off the real oppressors. The misled young man will be dealt with in the U.S. court of law. Therefore, we should not allow anyone to demonize anyone of us because of the evil act of one misguided young man. United We Stand!
Until we get our act together and take our country back from reprobate leaders currently using and abusing our fast diminishing resources to the detriment of WE THE PEOPLE, what is ahead will make what we are going through now look like vacation in Hawai. I don't advocate violence. But why can't 500,000 to a million of us march on ASO ROCK every three months to peacefully demand a change? Why are we so dormant and lazy to act? I saw a video of a fearless Nigeria artist on Youtube recently. This video inspired me. I now realize that all I do, all we do, is talk and but no action. Let's form a non-violent and peaceful but powerful movement like he suggested on his write-up to describe the video and take action together to effect the much needed change. His name is Monday Midnite and every caring Nigerian should watch his video on youtube: Monday Midnite-Bring back the money. Click on the link below to access the video.