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What Have You Done For Nigeria Or Your Country In Your Entire Life?

If you look carefully, you will observe that most people bad mounting Nigeria and Africa in general are either Africans themselves or foreign white racist neocons who will never see anything positive about black people. But this subset is not the object of this post. My question is simple: What have you as an Individual done for Nigeria or YOUR country if you are not a Nigerian?

I know some of you will retort and ask me What has Nigeria done for you? I will tell you what America, Britain etc has done (if any )for their citizens later.

But the QUESTION is WHAT HAVE YOU done or Contributed to Nigeria or YOUR COMMUNITY in your entire LIFE?

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@ Topic,

I have sucked the bosom of [b][/b]not less than 30 Nigerian Ladies.

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@ Revmallam

This is a really good topic,

As per what you have contributed, I saw this feature on CNN about the Indian guy that lends money to the poor people in rural India and how he expanded this initiative to the U.S.

This is somewhat similar to what you are doing and i believe it is great idea. I've thought about doing that as well when I am as financially well-off.

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Great Post

Thanks RevMallam. Too tired to write anything else until next time.

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The rebuttal to this analysis should fill AT LEAST ten pages, otherwise the teeming fan-base of Uber-Kommandantfuerer Becomerich are likely to be seriously disappointed and depressed for a long time.

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HERE IS THE PROFILE of "becomerich"

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According to a software that I use for various analysis, I decided to build a profile of "becomerich" and here is what the software says. Please note that the software engine is based on pattern matching.

(a) He is neither a Nigerian nor a Yoruba man and is probably NOT even African.

(b) Based on syntax errors in his writings, the software believes he recently learned to write English , about 8 years ago.

(c) The software believes he is from somewhere in Eastern Europe.

(d) The software believes he is a loner and probably a sadist.

(f) The software believes he is a member of a Nazi group in Eastern Europe. He claimed he campaigned for some politicians where he lives, the software believes he is likely to be seen in a rally for an Ultra right wing candidate or Nazi rally. If he lived in America, he is more likely to be seen in a KKK rally.

Again, the software I used is pattern based, but it has been very accurate in the past, so I believe it is again.

So now that we have or may have a clearer picture of this fellow, the best thing is to ignore him.

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But now that you have identified the oversight on your part, here is my advice, start small, pick a venture, be it any of those that you mentioned, but, get started and watch your personal satisfaction of seeing your handiwork change a life. There will be pitfalls, but DO NOT be discouraged.

We should all be on a mission to take back our country but we can only do it if we get started and the time is NOW !! Good luck and go change your community one person at a time.

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Interesting thread!

It is funny how most of us, myself inclusive have contributed nothing to Nigeria and we are always complaining!

I have pondered the question and realised I have made little or no direct contribution to Nigeria,except maybe you would call personal businesses a contribution since it adds to our GDP!

On the contrary, despite the failures of our leaders, Nigeria gave majority of us an education,some infrastructure and of course our very honourable green passport! Now thats something!So somehow, we owe our country!

On a realistic note, I'm guilty as charged but I'm pregnant with ideas on how to contribute to Nigeria and I plan on starting an Economic Development Center, a Community Agricultural Project and yes! I dream of walking into one decrepit government school, renovate it to international stantards and see what impact it would have on the kids!

@Revmallam

Always on point! Your ideologies always resonate an understanding that is above that of the average Nairalander/Nigerian!

@Becomerich

I would really like to understand your motivation! You come up with amazing things from another planet and you fit them into any thread!

You might want to take some fresh air on this one!

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my picture , Dont worry you would see me on television, when we join the republic of benin. top secret.

or

416 904 5008 nigeriamail@hotmail.com

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I wonder why he has to interject pictures that have no relevance to the subject of discourse on this thread, which are not pictures of Nigeria. Aged, but a silly individual I say.

@ becomerich,

Post the picture of your own children and yourself. Let us see, whether you are not a coward on this forum. If you want to lead Yorubas, give us your whole identity. Your contact address and post your pictures here. I would even join you in your demented fight for the Yoruba race.

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This poster 'becomerich' is a demented human being. Unredeemable and beyond hope.

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For those living in the USA, for president Obama, for Stephen harper and britain and the rest of the world , this is for you. Please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp the yoruba we want out.

Newsflash on CNN

Gas prices have gone off the roof. A barrel of oil now sell for $200. At $200 per barrel may be $5 per litre at the pump.

Our CNN reporter was out on the street to see the result of the oil prices based on war in nigeria .

from florida I have kelly smith on the other line ,

Kelly: you know what wolf, people are feeling the increase in the oil price. I just fill up my car for $1000 and i only make $2600. And my rent went up to $1650 based on the oil price.

I am broke wolf, wolf broke as a dead horses wolf , this war in nigeria is hitting my pocket.

Wolf: let find out from sam on wallsteet the effect of the war in nigeria. sam can your hear me.

Sam: wolf i hear you. The banks are down. lending rate have gone off the roof, it is now 39%, wolf mortage rate just went up to 28% , can you believe that.

wolf , companies are going down and i hear that china is making it big now, since they are the major supply of arm to the war. China is doing well wolf. it is hard on the USA , canada and europe economy, it is estimated that Globally 45 million people have lost thier job.

wolf the economy is going down.

Wolf: stay turn to your set CNN would be back from nigeria war zone.

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I don't have to snag you.  I already done that.  

I don't think you pay taxes because I've never heard of a 24% tax rate.

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My dear friends, please IGNORE this individual "becomerich". After reviewing his other posts in several threads, I have built a profile that tells me HE IS NOT what he claims to be.

Can we PLEASE continue with the subject at hand? No point in elevating mediocrity or intellectual frauds.

revmallam

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Omonla toucheth not our anointed Becomerich. lest he lose his cool and deluge this thread with thousands of badwidth-hogging satellite pictures, thereby causing Oga Seun to ban him, which will in turn cause him to rise once more from the dead with yet another name.

On second thoughts though, pushing him over the edge might just be the best course of action YOU could do for Nairaland and Nigeria as a whole. Praise the Lord !

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omonla

i assume you are hausa,

if you claim the yoruba desire is past. I said we all know what those OPC boys can do. you are a coward. why not post your address, name and others, so that OPC boys in nigeria can reach.

we have a problem and we are trying to solve the problem and get the yorubas out of a future war and you come  making noise. there is no future for nigeria, if we do not solve the issue and the solution is clare for anyone with brain. get the yoruba out and it change the configuration of nigeria political structure.

the tiv man already a minority in nigeria, removing the yorubas from nigeria would not change its status. or what change in the igboman. nothing. it only gives the igbo a better chance to become president. yoruba out of the way. the igbo have only the hausa to share power with.

wisdom my boy,

revmallam, i pay my taxes. i co started a program that feeds the homeless in my city, look i have to go, my list goes on, even the first redeemed church in the city mississauga , myself and others started it , but that one get its story. i help conduct election into parliament. manything etc, like i said i have to go.

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look if a nation or country look for ways to destroy me, what love do you expect from me. Do you expect me or others to pay tax or love a nation that maltreat me. and believe i am a second citizen. do you expect me to love a nation that denial me or my child citizen right. And have lead to killing of children indirectly. what do you do to rewrite the pain and years lost. what do you expect people to start from.

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why are you asking the foolish question again. people want to leave a country, you are asking them what they have done for nigeria.

Cant you get it, that they do not want to be part of nigeria. and they hell do care to do anything with nigeria or in future want to do for nigeria.

they hell want out, before you piss me off. I have told you i would reply you. if you can tell me what yar adua have done for nigeria. and you have not listed any. and you expect common nigerian to do something for nigeria, when you cant even find anything they have done for nigeria.

Even when nigeria pay their salary, does nigeria pay my salary.

Nigeria pay for the house they live in. does nigeria pay for my house.

nigeria pay for thier electricity , hell no , nigeria does not pay for my electricity.

they get free flight from nigeria, do i get free air ticket. no nation should expect anything from its citizen, if they do not make contribution to the life of thier citizen. i dont own no country a living.

nigeria pays for thier hospital bill, driver, water, everything they do. do i get that from nigeria.

And you can not find anything this people have done for nigeria, even after nigeria have done and is till doing this things for them.

list what yar adua have done for nigeria. like i have told you , i have made more contribution to nigeria than yar adua. i have made more than any member of his cabinet. I would list my if you can find anything to list for this people.

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I have asked him in several posts, to remove Nigeria as the country and  tell us what he has done or contributed to his community, but all has accomplished so far is deviate from the topic and obfuscate the obvious.

AGAIN I Will ASK you "Becomerice", WHAT HAVE YOU CONTRIBUTED TO YOUR COMMUNITY? Whereever it is? (notice I am yelling !)

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no state in the US can break away or declare themself a country.

What the state in the USA are allowed to break away from the USA. And it has even happen before. The philippine was part of the USA. That may shock you. And they are no more part of the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_the_Philippines

And do your search a federation is define as union comprising of a number self-governing sovereign states . That is what a federation is define as.

The word sovereign or indepedant from wiki

Sovereignty is the right to exercise, within a territory, the functions of a state, exclusive of any other state, and subject to no authority other than international law.[1] A sovereign is a supreme lawmaking authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty

Look at the word subject to no authority other than international law.

And what does your consititution says. it state that nigeria is a federation and we have a federal government,

Here is the nigeria constitution. And the word federation appears 339 times in the nigeria constitution.

And to show you how a federation works. State can leave a federation or join the federation in 1959 Alaska and Hawaii join the federation of the USA.

Even if you check the forum of federation countries also based in canada. Nigeria is listed

so you can claim , you are not a federation

http://www.forumfed.org/en/federalism/by_country/index.php

And in a federation a sovereign state can join the federation or leave the federation.

It is not an issue of comparing nigeria with the USA or Britain , it is an issue of international law. It define a federation and also set the rule and we all agree in nigeria to become a federation,

So we are part of the international community and USA or britain never force us to include in the nigeria constitution that we are a federation, Did anybody force you,

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Alright, Becomerich, you really need to cut out the crap (And I say this in the most respectful way).

The first time I ever heard of this nonsense that Yorubas want to join Benin Republic was when I finally had a chance to read one of your threads, complete with diagrams.

Stop the attention seeking, I speak as a Yoruba, and I can assure you, there is no present, future or realistic desire for us to leave Nigeria. If there is any Yoruba who shares your views (and I seriously doubt it), you are all clearly in the minority. You speak of the Phillipines being once part of the U.S. on an earlier post you made on this thread. Yes, the Phillipines was once annexed by the U.S. and they broke away. But have you noticed how many hundreds of thousands of Filipinos are literally begging to get into the U.S. and become Americans today? The country they 'shunned' in the past is now their dream land.

Yes, the same is true for Nigeria, as there are some disunifying morons who constantly talk about their ethnic group/groups leaving the country. Do not drag the Yoruba name into such stupidity as well.

And by the way, perhaps you should stay on topic? The question posed on this thread is "What have you done for your country?" Answer it, or quit discussing federlism and federations, which is obviously not the question here.

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2 Mr Crackles, Nigeria has made u a Nigerian. Revmallam, all what u said about contributing ones quota 2 d country is absolute right. At least those whom you helped or empowered will do same to those less privilege like them. Where i live, u ave 2 be outspoken & inform 2 tell people dat u are 4rm Nigeria because many people have & still denting d name of d country by selling drugs & scamming. That is d reason i said few are re branding d name while many were soiling it which make u ask, does it worth it?

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To your point, although I was not educated (other than primary and secondary schools) in Nigeria, I do personally believe that NYSC should not be abolished. I am of the opinion that it should be expanded or modified. It exposes most of us and serves as a very important conduit to exposing some of us to the myriad of cultures that make up Nigeria. I am of these opinions because Nigeria being a diverse nation, some of us will not have the opportunity to explore the country if not for NYSC. I once dated a girl from Jos and that gave me the chance to visit that city and see things for myself. You can say that NYSC serves similar purpose (OK, minus the girl !), but you get the idea. Even USA has a similar program but theirs is called by various names including the Peace Corps, but the only difference is that it is not mandatory. The Obama administration has introduced a new version in which university graduates will have their college loans forgiven if they teach in troubled schools in the nation. So as you can see, it is same concept.

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I believe if your hands are clean, you owe no one any apologies. America has the worlds prison population, but we will be mistaken to brand all Americans as criminals THEY ARE NOT. The problem we have is that we have allowed others on CNN, BBC, Western media to define us !!

At my age and where I  am in life, I will consider myself a failure if I can not express what I feel. I don't know how old you are, but I believe at any age, you should be able to do same economic standing not withstanding.

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You either contribute to the topic and stop yarning gobbledygook, which are utterly irrelevant to the topic or better still open your photoshop, take out your crayons and be painting the yoruba-benin country.

@ topic,

Not engaged myself in fraudulent activities - 419, Yahoo-yahoo etc.

Future projection?

Plan to abolish that nonsensical compulsory scheme called NYSC in Nigeria.

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Uk, is not a federation. if i am correct there are only 25 federation in the world and nigeria agreed to be a federation.

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2 Mr Crackles, Nigeria has made u a Nigerian. Revmallam, all what u said about contributing ones quota 2 d country is absolute right. At least those whom you helped or empowered will do same to those less privilege like them. Where i live, u ave 2 be outspoken & inform 2 tell people dat u are 4rm Nigeria because many people have & still denting d name of d country by selling drugs & scamming. That is d reason i said few are re branding d name while many were soiling it which make u ask, does it worth it?

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dont forget the yoruba, bendle and bayelsa can also decide to join another federation like Alaska and other did, we can decide to USA. or UK or canada or benin republic

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dont forget the yoruba, bendle and bayelsa can also decide to join another federation like Alaska and other did, we can decide to UK or canada or benin republic

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May God help me to do something for Nigeria amen.

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Even if you check the forum of federation countries also based in canada. Nigeria is listed  

so you can claim , you are not a federation

http://www.forumfed.org/en/federalism/by_country/index.php

And in a federation  a sovereign state can join the federation or leave the federation.  

It is not an issue of comparing nigeria with the USA or Britain , it is an issue of international law. It define a federation and also set the rule and we all agree in nigeria to become a federation,

So we are part of the international community and USA or britain never force us to include in the nigeria constitution that we are a federation, Did anybody force you,

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Believe it or not, it is really easier to make money in Nigeria than to make money in say, US or Britain. The reason being that you can start very small in Nigeria, but to start a viable business in US, you need real money and then, there's the gazillion rules and regulations to abide by. The problem we have in Nigeria is that those that want to start small don't even have the small amount to get started and that's where this thread comes in.

Could I have done better if I stayed in Nigeria? Looking back I think so, but then again, hindsight is always 20/20. I say this because, I have friends in Nigeria who never left Nigeria doing just as well and even better than me. Then I have some who have not even gotten started. So as you said, all fingers are NOT created equal and we all can NOT be kings, meaning not all of us will succeed no matter how hard we try. All things considered, and adjusting for currency valuations, it is my opinion that Nigerians doing well abroad would have done in Nigeria.

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And to show you how a federation works. State can leave a federation or join the federation in 1959 Alaska and Hawaii join the federation of the USA.

And Puerto Rico's later join the federation , So in the federation of nigeria. state can leave or join. And we yorubas, bendle and bayelsa want to leave.

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And if you look at the website of the international council for federal countries which is based in canada , nigeria is listed as a federation.

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What the state in the USA are allowed to break away from the USA. And it has even happen before. The philippine was part of the USA. That may shock you.  And they are no more part of the USA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_the_Philippines

And do your search a federation is define as union comprising of a  number  self-governing  sovereign states .   That is what a federation is define as.

The word sovereign  or indepedant from wiki  

Sovereignty is the right to exercise, within a territory, the functions of a state, exclusive of any other state, and subject to no authority other than international law.[1] A sovereign is a supreme lawmaking authority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereignty

Look at the word subject to no authority other than international law.

And what does your consititution says. it state that nigeria is a federation and we have a federal government,  

Here is the nigeria constitution. And the word federation appears 339 times in the nigeria constitution.

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If you believe that view to be better, why not find a few people and change their perspectives? Martin Luther King changed America, Ghandi India, Mandela, SA. One they all had in common was that they had a vision and sold it. Chances are you can ADD your name to the list. It is NOT easy but you can do it.

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Sending money to young people only expands the perception that money grows on trees abroad, and later morphs into a belief that you owe it to them.

What I personally do is send money that CAN ONLY BE USED TO GROW MORE MONEY. That is, show me that you can grow money and I will help you plant the tree.

Why did I decide on this you ask? Well, I realized that I have sent a total of 4 million naira, purchased 4 vehicles etc for my folks, but they wanted more and were not growing it. So I changed the rules, and I am glad I did. So I only send money that MUST be invested because, if you TEACH them how to fish, they will fish for themselves.

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I have mentored youths and I am still trying my best to impart a good legacy to the few that wants it from my experience and way of life.

The problem with Nigeria has a super hydra-headed dragon view and as you try to solve one, another modifies (does not even bother to grow) and replace it. The crop of youths today are even worse in their approach to the issue of corruption; they lack their parents conservatism and believe corruption should be sustainable. I have seen this over and over and I try hard everyday not to lose faith in the entity called Nigeria.

Leadership problem happens to be an evolved form of the basic moral problems; followership.

Followership in Nigeria contributes to the leadership pool and if these leaders rulers emerge from the corrupt lots with perverted values, its clear why we are merry-go rounding. Once the corrupt is elevated, he has to orchestrate a system that will sustain the values that brought him to power and thereby continue the vicious cycle until we desire a change and start a new crop of potential leaders with sincere desire for change and progressive value system.

Oh Naija!

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@ jamace

you've  said everything that need no elaboration  apart from one single thing missing and that is our mentality is million miles diff to the average white person.

1. when i first got to UK i the 80,s the average white man believes in owing one council flat then pass it on to his/her children  after death, then come greedy Africans who manipulated the system and started acquiring flats all over the borough and immediately Margrethe Thatcher privatise those flats, people become ownership of council flats.

2. the perspective of life to an average oyinbo person is dirr to us. this guy take risk with there  life. skying, kayaking , climbing mountains trying to break barriers even to the detriment of there lives which doesn't exclude the rich or poor, its embedded in the skin, ln 2003 when i first got to Abuja, i saw beautiful mountain scattered all over the place that could become real tourist attraction and generate money and provide employments , i ask friend to  follow me on an espedition on a weekend to one of the rocks so we could climb to the top , my bother they all laughed at me as if i am a mad man from out of space but same friends will quickly follow me to any available merry making no matter how far we have to travel.

so you see  our mental orientation is quite different, remember mungo park travelled  from Europe with no map of Africa and serious loss of lives to his crew before opening Africa for invasion.

well, nuff said.

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Interesting

Would sending money home regularly consistute as doing something postive for Nigeria. Remember that money goes in various grassroot developments for the individual

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U end your comparism with d obvious reason i said we should not compare. D difference is clear. Few people are trying 2 change d bad image of d country while many soil it everyday

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I think Nigeria should be compared to America/Britain. I have my reasons:

1. Nigeria has the human resources who are as educated as American/Britain. So many professors and Phd holders in all fields of knowledge. Proudly, some nigerians are in those countries contributing to the development of those countries.

2 The revenue generation from oil alone is enough to set Nigeria on the path to development since the '70s. Corruption of our leaders and lack of the political will has robbed us of this wealth leading to our development.

3. Nigeria has a population and landmass sufficient to stimulate and sustain development. However, corruption will not allow us to use this advantage.

4. The religious inclination of Nigerians is supposed to be a foundation to progress and development as religion preaches love and sharing. Alas, it is used for the underdevelopment of the country instead as used to fan the embers of hatred and disharmony among members against nonmembers,

5. Democracy is the system of government in Nigeria. Democratic practices are akin to african communal practices which support the spirit of brotherhood and majority vote (majority carries the day). Sadly, popular vote hardly works as rigging and thuggery are used to usurp votes and power.

6. Natural resources. It is awesome thinking about the abundant resources available in Nigeria, yet they are not fully tapped. And where they are tapped, the money goes into few pockets, a cabal who has no political will for the development of Nigeria but their personal agrandisements.

In summary, Nigeria has the human, material and goverment structure necessary and sufficient for national development. However, corruption and lack of political will by our leaders to develope Nigeria left us in our present state. Just like a foreign observer said, "Nigeria is too rich to be poor, and too poor to be rich".

It is only love of country that can propel us to that greatness.

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D reason i said dat d poster shouldn't compare Naija with US or BRITAIN earlier is dat basically, they are world apart & strives there will not in Nigeria. Economically, both country are much more better than Nigeria. If not, why did u travel abroad? Many philantrophist like u helped d poor because of love of humanity & it worth commending but dont tell me dat if u had stay in Nigeria all your life, u would earned a much better life. You should not expect everybody 2 think along with u cos fingers are not equal sames as our perspective 2wards Nigeria differ. I ave done my bit in helping my community in giving 2 needy d little i can out of d little i ave cos as poor as them. Educating people on not voting 4 power hungry politicians

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CHEERS and please SPREAD your message !!

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As I said before, your assertions are misleading but you seem bent on perpetuating this myth of  perfection in far away lands. Contrary to your assertions, no state in the US can break away or declare themself a country. When the Southern region of the US tried it, it led to the American civil war of 1861. When was the last time you filed your taxes in the US? Please take a closer look at your 1040 documents or visit the IRS website.  Here what to do, next time you  fill up your gas tank in America, look closely at the gas pumps or ask the clerk or better yet, why not visit the websites of  any state and check out the revenue sources?

I will assume that you have intentionally refused to answer or I can reasonably  conclude that you have done absolutely nothing for the betterment of your community, because you believe your community has done nothing for you. This is sadly tragic and is exactly the problem.

So let's say You don't want to do anything for Nigeria because Nigeria has done nothing for you, then, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE OR CONTRIBUTED to where you call home? Please NOTHING personal, but it seems to me, you are intentionally spreading misleading information, (reminds me of FOX news networks)

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some of the most important things you can do for Nigeria are

1. Obey the laws

2. Pay taxes so there's money to build the country

3. Pay utility bills so there are sufficient funds to maintain and improve infrastructure

4. Take a stand against corruption

I cannot understand where this mindset that most of the 'bad mouthing' comes from Nigerians in diaspora. A large number of Nigerians on ground are equally dissatisfied with the state of the country and are extremely vocal too.

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state do not collect tax for the federal they keep the tax, what you may have read, is that there are some tax the state collect for federal govt. which is true. the federal does not collect money directly. it is the state that coillect and now send out the federal portion. in some payment, but not the above, this are state tax.

even the airport and seaport are own by state , not federal govt.

kano state should own the kano airport , while sokoto state should own the sokoto airport.

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Revmallam , like i said before , I do not think you live in america. You claim they collect for the federal government. what are you talking about. What the hell. The keep the money to themself.

Look VAT is what they call state tax in the USA. And each state have different % they they collect. If they were collecting for the federal why would they % be different. No way this tax are collected by state and not federal govt.

The state are independant of the federal, even state in the USA can leave the USA and become a country of thier own. Do your search.

Who rules high school , who runs elementary school state or municipal. And they use education and other to fund it. what is the business of nigeria govt in education tax. what the hell are you talking about are you living in zamfara state of america (ZSA)  or in kebbi state of america(KSA).

The day the USA govt takes those right away. I know america, all the state would decide to leave the federation. That is what federation stand for.

Here in he US, practicly al the taxes you mentioned are collected BY THE STATES for the FEDERAL government.

Nigeria is a federal system and in federal system state are  self-governing country on thier own. they do not dependent on the federal. the USA state are independant . New york can buy nigeria. texas can buy nigeria. what do you mean.

Ontario budget was $99 billion last years. give federal what money, hell no, The state are rich that why they can do what they do,

Do you think if kano state  VAT , educational tax, personal tax ,company tax

petrol tax

corporate tax

custom duties

capital gains tax

Taxes on gaming

Transport taxes

Tax on commercial premises

And you think kano state governor would come to abuja to see Soludo again. Or you think if kano state collect this tax. south south would continue to call them lazy.

your constitution says we are a federal system.

see this, you are not using the constitution,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation

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