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What If Zik Was Like Awolowo ?

What if Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe was selfish and tribalistic like Awolowo

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Debate and project thesis.

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Let me applaud your ability to copy and paste as well as the inferior zeal to dig for facts. Your canny ability to indulge in a brazen deceitful joke could not entice the history hunger of a third grader.

If you really want to copy the work of unknown individuals, please try very hard to check the veracity of such essays. What you pitched about Mr. Jaja Wachukwu was teetering on lunatic propaganda stunt as you labored to score a cheap political point. By 1929 firmed Aba Women’s riot, Jaja Wachukwu was already a practicing lawyer at a very young age and represented the women in court. When wrote about a student that journeyed abroad in 1938 and mentioned Jaja Wachukwu, I guess he was returning to London for more studies.

It is a shameful drawback on your scholarly erudition that you remembered everything, including the quotations of Zik on the front pages of West African Pilot, the matches evolving the Christ Kings College boys from Onitsha, St Gregory College, Lagos and adulterated Ibadan XI, the school attended by two young Nigerians; one Yoruba the other Igbo, the class honors in which they graduated in law as the imaginary Yoruba chap bettering the imaginary Igbo chap but what woefully escaped your memory were the names of these two chaps.

I shell bet you that there were Igbo boys that played for St. Gregory College, Lagos against the Christ Kings College, Onitsha. I also guess that common sense is no longer common with respect to your post.

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West African Pilot (Newspaper) been a popular newspaper then was used by Zik tribalistically.

When the agitation against the 'cocoa pool' was raging, Zik showed no interest. Also when the ban on palm kernels was imposed, the Pilot supported it. Said the Pilot:

", the measure by the Government is fair. Instead of reducing the whole country into poverty, only the Western Provinces will be affected and they can switch over to other avenues to make body and soul live."

As a result of his indifference to these two economic crises, which threatened the livelihood of the Western Region.

In other circumstances, Dr. Zik would have dipped his pen in gall, as was his wont, and on the pages of the Pilot, would have denounced the 'cocoa pool' as an 'imperialist device or strategem whose aim, object or purpose was to oppress, repress, depress and distress Nigeria cocoa producers and dealers economically'. In the same manner, he woul have vehemently declaim the ban on palm kernels in the western porvince.

An article written by Zik published on the front page of the Pilot, and entitled 'Football Illiad, 1940 Edition' shocked many people.

A football team composed of students of the Christ King's College, Onitsha came to Lagos to paly a 'Win the war' football match against St Gregory's college. The CKC team from Onitsha defeated St. Gergory's team by 5 goals to 4. To the ordinary man in the street, let alone the highly sophisticated elements, there was nothing extraordinary or unusual in in one school or college defeating another in a game of soccer. But not so with Dr. Zik. He saw in the sporting exploits and triumph of the team from Onitsha the inherent superiority of the easterners over thier opponent and he went to very great pains to establish this fact, by means of careful choosing words and emphasis. These extracts from the article are relevant:

"And to think of the great combination if tge Spartan heroes who crossed the lordly niger, journeyed through the good earht of Benin, hurried across the domains of the Oshemawe of Ondo, of the Atanla of Owo, of the Owa of Ilesha, of the Oni of Ife, of the Alake of Abeokuta in their invasion of these islands!

Who, but heroes of mighty brawn and exceptionally developd brain would have dared to make this invasion and to succeed in carrying to their River Niger home, the Golden Fleece of Inter-Collegiate Soccer Championship of the Eastern and Western Provinces?

Yet they came to Lagos, they saw the irresistible defence put up by their opponents, and they conquered impressively, convincingly, and were graceful even in victory!

Could their achievement be paralleled?

Would it not be better for me to leave the anser to the laps of the gods?"

On 24 August 1940, the same CKC team played the Olubadan XI in another 'Win the War' match. The CKC were beaten 3-2 by the Olubadan XI which were and undiluted Yoruba team. Nothing was written on the Pilot. It was after there had been clamours in the Daily Service, in form of letters to the editor, that the news of this Ibadan match was published some 2 weeks after and it was a small item on the back page. It iwas explained in it that CKC team were already tired and that some of them in fact limpimg, before they went into the field against Olubadan XI. This was of course untrue.

Some of the manners which Zik gave the achievement of the Ibo are these"

* 'Ibo Young man to Sail to U.k.' is the heading of a frontpage story and picture on September 23, 1938. The young man is Mr. Jaja Wachukwu. (Former Speaker of Nigeria 's House of Representives

* '14th West African Student, 10th Nigerian, 8th Ibo in U.S.A'

Another front page story on January 28, 1939. The 8th Ibo was Nwafor Orizu.

*'Ibo Medical student passes In First Class Honours.'

Yet another front page story, on June 26, 1940, of the brilliant success of Dr. S.O Egwuatu.

These are few examples, but against these, the achievement of Yoruba particularly and, in particular, the academic laurels of their scholers received, if at all, inconspicous notice in the Pilot.

Example, As late as 1945, two Nigerian law students iof Cambridge Univeristy, one Yoruba and one Ibo, passed the Law Tripos Examination. The Yoruba passed with Second class honours (Upper Division), and the Ibo also passed with Second class honour but with lower division. The latter got front page publicity in the Pilot, but the former got a small space given to him on the back page a few days after the report of his Ibo colleague had appeared. As for oustanding Yoruba public men, there were all of them daubed ad 'imperialist stooges' and 'Uncle Toms'.

There are still more examples. But I do like to stop here.

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By the way what happened to Micheal Okpara after the 1966?I dont think i ever heard of him again till he passed away.

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I have a few reasons for believing that Zik was selfish, I may be wrong but that's my opinion

1. Zik failed to work with Awo (I do not know what reasons he had). Both would have sat down and agreed on the terms, like say, you lead now, I lead after you and vice versa.

2. Zik failed to recognize biafra probably because he was not going to be in charge

3. Zik was alleged to have removed the then premier of the Eastern region

4. Zik accepted to be a ceremonial head to just about anybody (yes, Tafawa Balewa was just about anybody whose credentials were far below those of Zik). Why would Zik work with a nonetity (Balewa) instead of a real contemporary (Awo)?

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It is either you are tribalistic or selfish

Between Zik and Awo, Awo was a tribalist (more than Zik ever was) while Zik was a selfish person (more than Awo ever was)

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They are all history now, but the consequences of their deeds could teach Nigerians something important.

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lol @ cry baby cut and paste,

All that matters,

Suffice it to say, that Awolowo as government leader in 1951 had the opportunity to put into reality his political programme. Between 1951 and 1956 during his first administration, he transformed Western Nigeria. This was through massive infrastructural and social development, including the building of the first modern stadium, several hospitals, schools and colleges, farm settlements as demonstrative farming schemes to show to peasant farmers that farming needs not be by illiterates and that farming could be mechanised and modernised to remove the tedium of back breaking cutlass and hoe farming of Nigerian peasants.

To crown his scheme of transformation, he introduced universal and compulsory free primary education in Western Nigeria in 1955. He did this after a well thought out committee report which linked development all over the world with rapid progress in education. Awolowo was persuaded that the genius of man can only be released through education and that of all resources a state may have, none is greater than human resources. A large population without education, he argued, will no doubt be a drag on development. But when properly educated, an educated citizen was the best capital a State can have.

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You are a disgrace to your stock. Like father like son. If you really want to post an article off Wiki, you should post the entirety of the article not cutting the sections that satisfy your ignoramus fancy.

Where are the names of Chief Fani-kayode and Prince Adeleke Adedoyin? Ordinary arithmetic posed a menace to your empty skull. When the election polls of September 1951 were closed, AG was surprisingly shocked to have only won 29 seats out of 80.

However at the end of November 1951 due to slow process of filing election papers, AG has ethnically coaxed all the small parties and independent candidates that ran under the platform of NCNC to switch allegiance to AG. Yet the rank of AG could only swell to 38 still without clear majority.

If AG won the election as you would want us to believe, why should candidates that detested the political agenda of AG, contested and defeated AG candidates suddenly switched to AG? During Zik’s birthday bash, Chief AMA Akinloye even apologized to Zik stating that AG and majority of Yoruba people did not want Igbo person or non-Yoruba to become the first premier of western region.

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Being tribalistic does not necessarily mean you are evil,it means you think and act for the interest of your tribe first.

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Though I'm too young.

But I have being reading some books.

But saying Awo is tribalistic and Zik is not is not something right.

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Sorry how is the addition of 38 +25++6+2+3 make up 80 ?

Why boring someones afternoon with names of all these obituaries ?

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stop posting all these gibberish nonsense because they are of no value to me, try look for some 2nd grade kids to share your scrap notes with.

no be by force.

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A deluded monkey such as could not even discern from the article you copied and posted was not referring to the regional independence as regions becoming independent sovereign nations.

But it was intended to cede autonomous powers to regions so as to conduct the affairs of the regions independent of the government at the center. However, by the time the 1954 constitutional conference was concluded, the attendees had agreed on the principles of devolution of powers between central and regional government hence federalism.

I suggest that a latent such as you should endeavor to read beyond tribal line about Nigerian politics. Anyway, advising a fool is like beating the air with a stick.

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Call it naivete or whatever but I am convinced that the Igbos and the Yorubas are natural allies,

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@all

why did we even push for independence when we obviously could not handle it?

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You're trying sha, @ least you pulled some disjointed rubbish out of your Bottom.

Why I'm even messing with this olodo pavement head?

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The sources you posted as the official document that spurred your idiocy to announce that Zik did not team up with Awo clearly showed that you are most moronic . A slowpoke such as could have posted this crap you have submitted as evidence of Zik not teaming up with Awo. I would not even try to educate you because you are lazy fool who lacked courage to read beyond the pages posted by other morons.

There were 1951 regional election and 1954 federal election. In the 1954 federal election, NCNC defeated AG in western regional pools by 23 to 18 elected members to federal house of representative. The carpet-crossing saga alluded in the post you copied from a fellow slowpoke took place after regional election in which NCNC trounced AG. During the 1954 constitutional conference to cede regional authority to the regions saw a break in alliance between Awo and Azik. It was over the status of Lagos as an autonomous entity instead of a territory of western region.

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For your notice, Azikiwe was a proud Igbo man till death. He was merely quoting what his illiterate grandmother told him. Yorubas claim their progenitors come from Mecca and Egypt. Does it mean that Yoruba's are Egyptians or Arabians?. Please stop derailing topics.

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I am not sure what would have happened but i still maintain what i said earlier here

However you also know Awo had a chance to remove the west from nigeria but did not seem to do so ala 1967.The excuse i keep getting for that action was that Hausa military personel where much in lagos.

Hoewever i keep asking what if Awo decided to break the west from nigeria(whether there was agreement with Ojukwu is immaterial to me) would the north have faced the east and the west at the same time?Your guess is as good as mine.

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Actually, zik's action wasn't rational and thought trough. Personally, Awo didn't  wrong zik in any way, other folks within the region did by Cross carpeting to Awo's AG Party.

Awo and Zik were the main brains in the south and by extension the most sophisticated political minds in Nigeria. Awo did the right thing by going to Zik because he saw what Zik didn't see or failed to see, same thing a lot of our current leaders in the south are still not seeing and incapable of seeing.

You can not do business with Hausa folks and progress, Awo saw this and reached out to Zik and zik should have ignored the '54 mess and pay attention to the bigger picture. Unfortunately, he did not, he knowingly went with the hausa folks for personal reasons because it was obvious he wasn't getting nothing but a junior partnership roll for his effort by messing with the North. He basically advanced the Northern agenda because the Hausa folks were playing for keeps, that same agenda is still killing us as a Nation.

The North is a major and solid block against divided south and they've been using the most effective ruling tool (Divide and rule) in the world against us. Unfortunately, we still haven't learnt our lesson.

What if Zik had set aside his pride and formed an alliance with Awo?

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More reason why you see quite a number of igbos who view Azikiwe as a hopeless nationalist.However your article says Azikiwe was still peeved at what happened to him in 1954 when Awo came with the coalition proposal.

I guess it was a case of once bitten twice shy.

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I am not surprise at your post because many Nigerians dwell on innuendos and tend to exhibit laziness in seeking out facts. However, dude, you are suffering from brain deficiency.

It is unfortunate that Nigeria has more than its share of individuals inflicted with such decease hence the backwardness of Nigeria as functional country.

Pal, I suggest you get your facts first, and then you can distort them as you please.

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Let us for a moment deduced that you got it right once in your life time. I shall not even include doubts you have created about understanding meaning or definition of the word; illiterate.

However, I shall beg your indulgence in educating me on the history of Nigeria with references to the several independent and constitutional conferences where Awo solemnly requested Azik to team up with him and declare independence when the North was stalling and saying they weren't ready.

I guess your sorry Bottom should realize that such request would come as a motion tendered by Awo in such discuss. I am stating unequivocally that there was never such motion credited to Awo. My advice to a dunce such as you is that digging for facts is a better mental exercise than leaping to wrong conclusion based on innuendos.

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Unfortunately for you, it's absolutely impossible to substitute ignorance, empty bravado , lack of intellectual curiosity and share literacy with facts and intelligence.

Your dumb Bottom should have kept quiet and assume the dumb and clueless position with pride.

biafranigeriaworld.com

The 1954 Western Elections - which was won by the NCNC under Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe ("Zik.’). But after a meeting of the Egbe Omo Oduduwa, several Yoruba NCNC legislators suddenly "crossed carpet" to the Action Group (AG) under Chief Obafemi Awolowo, thereby effectively preventing Zik from becoming the first premier of Western Nigeria. Hurt and dejected, Zik returned to the East, where he promptly displaced Prof. Eyo Ita from the premiership of the region. This helped fuel the anger and disloyalty of the eastern minority elements, who soon organized to demand the creation of a COR state. This was the beginning of tribalism in Nigerian politics.

The 1959 Federal Elections - in which none of the three major parties (NPC, NCNC and AG) won a clear majority, but the NPC had the most seats, followed by the NCNC. To prevent the northerners (a.k.a. the NPC) from having the first shot at the prime Ministership of Nigeria with so much executive power concentrated there, Awo proposed that the NCNC (i.e. the Igbos) and the AG (i.e. the Yorubas) should form a coalition so as to have the first shot at ruling at the center. But Zik, still pe eved at what happened to him in 1954, would not have anything to do with Awo. Instead he teamed up with the NPC to form the first Federal government of an independent Nigeria on October 1 1960. Thus, the Igbos became the junior partner in a Federal govern ment where they would have been the senior partner had Zik agreed to a coalition with the Yorubas.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:G8FiLE4wCcYJ:messageboard.biafranigeriaworld.com/ultimatebb.cgi%3Fubb%3Dprint_topic%3Bf%3D1%3Bt%3D001745+zik+Nigeria+Independence+was+delayed+until+1960.&cd=12&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

"A LETTER TO THE NDIGBO: Cutting Our Nose to Spite Our Face" in Nigerian Times International, January 16-31, 1996

By Chief Eke Urum-Eke[/b

Again, when the British Colonial Government tempted the appetite of the Nigerian political leadership with the offer of quasi-independence, through full blown regional autonomy in 1957, Northern Nigeria, led by the Northern Peoples Congress (NPC) took the position that the North was not ready for that level of political and economic independence. [b]The Western Region, led by Chief Obafemi Awolowo’s Action Group (AG) promptly declared its readiness to accept the offer. It was the Igbo-led NCNC that held the balance. It was an issue that could make or break Nigeria if the three regions chose to go their separate ways to Independence.

The NCNC leader, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe took the stand that although the Eastern Region was ready to assume the responsibilities of Regional Independence, its attainment without the North would lead, in his own words, to the “Balkanization of the Nigerian Nation” and conceivably a break-up of the country. The Eastern Region would rather suppress its appetite for Independence and the obvious gains it would entail until the Northern Region was ready. That was how Nigerian Independence was delayed until 1960. In short, the Igbo-led Eastern Region would rather forgo the advancement of its own political and economic interests than risk the break-up of Nigeria. Similarly, when Zik moved to the Federal scene as Governor General and later titular President of Nigeria, the NCNC, under the leadership of Dr. Michael Okpara, of blessed memory, continued faithfully in Zik’s giant and indelible foot steps, the political bridge-building and nation building enterprise of the Igbo.

The state of the Nation

Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu "HERO"

the Igbo-led NCNC shunned the attraction of being the senior partner in an East-West Alliance with Chief Awolowo’s Action Group (AG) and chose to team up instead with Sir Ahmadu Bello’s Northern Peoples Congress (NPC) in order to consolidate the frail and insipid attachment of a wary and sceptical North to Southern Nigeria.

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:_5tj0F4hkpoJ:te-in.facebook.com/topic.php%3Fuid%3D9726722412%26topic%3D6586+The+north+was+not+ready+for+independence+awolowo&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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They need to start moving these threads to the racist and sectarianism section. their own too much

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not eve cookie?

The way I see it, one mans tribalist is another man's passionate patriot and concerned citizen.

We sometimes use the tribalism label to deflect and circumvent facts.

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Ask Seun but you cannot even make the first 10 tribalists on nairaland, why worry?. Sjeezy and Ikeymann are the top contenders.

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Rollcall on Tribalists: forgive me if i forgot your name

Igbo:

Udezue

Ikeymann0000

Nchara

Only truth

Yoruba:

Sjeezy88

Becomericher

Akingbemaru

Babapupa

Egwuofor

Billymuse

Tribalists in recess:

tpiah

Negro nation

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Your comments in this thread clearly tells me your country's history ain't your forte.

You even sound like an illiterate sef,

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oh goodness, is ethnicity the only thing we can discuss in this section.

tribalist this, tribalist that

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Awolowo, obasanjo or abiola were different individual.

Awo was a principle man , obasanjo is not. Obasanjo makes decision based on event now, because President Obasanjo love women. if you get what I mean, and so did Abiola.  And Obasanjo and abiola have sowed in every tribe , ethnics and colour. So that give you thier mind set.

Awolowo was a one man, one woman type of person in we are talking of the 40 and 50. were an average nigeria had several women. The man had one wife, even when he was the most powerful in Yorubaland and the south at the time.

Now compare to president obasanjo and abiola. President Obasanjo is action. The baba get action when it comes to woman. I can tell you this at 150 years, president obasanjo would still be ready to have new wife. and have children. He is a typical yorubaman, they believe they do not count children. Baba does not mind. same thing for Abiola. It is an issue of principle. They are all different individual. we are all different individual.  and we see life differently.

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zik removed Eyo Ita , go and read your history. Eyo ita and his people now formed National Independence Party.

Awo was not a tribalitic person. He just believe in the rule of law. And the other ethnics group some believe in cheating. even the satellite picture shows awo was right and they were all wrong.

Look Obasanjo and awolowo are from the same state and never get along, even abiola was never awolowo friend. but they are all yorubas. it is an issue with principle and awolowo was a principle man. I can tell you this Obasanjo and abiola can bend the rule. No awo. It was difficult for awo to change his mind on issue because most of awolowo decision were not made by awolowo, but by his religious believe.

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Bros I have to share some of your views here. Zik was just[b] a terrible politician [/b] -whether he removed Eyo Ita or not- he failed to see Nigeria the way he should have. If he did, the Eastern region wouldn't have lost Western Cameroon. He was too focused on "Nigeria" but failed to see that even Nigeria had essential building blocks, one of which was the East then. If he concentrated on the East, all the problems of subsequent years including losing english cameroon and the minorities of the East would not have happened. If he kept western cameroon, I doubt the war would have gone the way it did. He may not have done something deliberate to allienate those people, but the bottomline is that he was the de facto leader of the NCNC and he failed.

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Nwanna,

Zik did not remove Eyo Ita as the head of government in eastern region of Nigeria. During the said period, Zik was not even a member of the regional house of assembly in eastern region talk less of removing head of the government.

The detractors of eastern region of Nigeria fanned up the ethnic bias on Eyo Ita’s case when one actually did not exist.

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I would like you to expatiate with facts and references on the occasion and place where Awolowo requested that Azikwe teamed up with him and declare independence when the North was stalling and saying they weren't ready.

It appears that few cretins on this board are willing to uplift stupidity to a credible level.

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Nwanna,

what are you on about? Did Zik remove or not remove Eyo Ettah from his post? Given the state Nigeria is today, Awo's tribalism, was it also Zik's cup of coffee, would have led to different countries emanating from Nigeria. Isn't that what we are now all fighting for?

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@becomrich

I don't understand, please provide some maps to support your assertion.

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Was zik , really an igboman. When I once read , zik was not an igboman, he was just an immigrate to igboland. And bear igboname. And that may be his reason for not supporting biafra. Please read zik book My Odyssey.

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It is very unfortunate that you have foolishly and arduously impugned the character of late Nnamdi Azikwe based on innuendoes and fallacies induced by ethnicity. Please get some education.

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If it is general consensus that all easterners (I doubt it) want tear down all the good work of Zik, then it is your prerogative, but please leave Awolowo out of it.

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Azikiwe was a hopeless nationalist.I guess being an igbo born in the north(zungeru) and growing in lagos gave him a false sense of nationalism.

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What's so tribal about doing what your people tasked you to do, in civilized societies, they call it great leadership and responsive governance. Only in Nigeria people label good and positivity with derogatory labels.

Did Awo not ask Zik to team up with him and declare independence when the North was stalling and saying they weren't ready?

Didn't Zik stalled with the North and end up teaming up with the North to lay the foundation for our sorry state of affairs?

We all know it's absolutely impossible to get things done with the North in the mix, just look at today's PDP, same nonsense was going on when ZIK joined them decades ago.

Now, what was Awolowo supposed to do? Sit on his hands and not fulfill his charged obligation to take care of and look after his people, especially after other folks refused to join him and go join other incompetent people.

Like or dislike the man, he did his job by actualizing his campaign promises, he took care of his region and served his people and dignified the oath he took. He built and started lots of firsts in Nigeria and Africa. Decades after, his achievements is still moving the Nation forward.

The industrial estate he built is still the only major industrial estate in our country. Successive incompetent administrations are yet match, emulate and capitalize on what the man accomplished in less than 7 years (from 1952 to 1959).

The question now is, what if the man was left alone and regional administration was never terminated? Wetin the west go look like?

The man did his job as a leader and as an administrator. Unfortunately, other regional leaders took their eyes off the ball.

Hate or love him, the man remains the best president we never had,

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@poster - or is it venom?

Leave the founding fathers of our democracy out of your vile contemptuous tribalism - let their souls rest in perfect peace - they did alot for this country, they should be revered not denegrated with your depraved and convoluted ideology.

Don't you have any bounds?

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At the end of the day, Zik did the Igbo no good. Sorry to say, but Nigeria needs tribalism; that is the way it is programmed

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Zik's nationalistic attitude made the East more vulnerable.

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how didn't he?

If he went through with the plan would there be a Nigeria today?

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@sjeezy,

How did Awolowo keep Nigeria?

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