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What Tribe Will You Consider Most Liberal And Detribalized? Give Your Reasons

State your reasons and please don't attack anyone.

You are all entitled to your own opinion.

For me, I think Yorubas are more liberal and detribalized because of their sense

of judgement even in time of conflict with somebody who is not of their ethnic group.

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^^you asked a question and i gave you an answer.

if your intention is to start insulting as is your wont, then keep it moving because unfortunately i will not oblige you today though i will another time.

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I thought you were smarter than this. See weak and fooolish argument. You can do better than that.

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I don't want to get into any unnecesary argument but pls in the name of God tell us how Yorubas are more liberal that Igbos for example. Please use the same variables when comparing the two.

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Yoruba are the most liberal.

As for detribalized- in nigeria, that's a matter of degree since no tribe is completely detribalized per se. So, i'd think yorubas generally have a greater degree of detribalization in their interactions with others.

All this isnt necessarily a good thing because sometimes it means you are considered s.tupid.

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If Enugu people were not liberal would they have allowed it?

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I should want to agree with you but there are two sides to a coin.

Ministerial appointment is not by election its by selection.

If I'm governor of Lagos state, I could appoint a credible non yoruba friend as a minister.

Meanwhile, what is the name of that minister I like to know really

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A yoruba man was made minister in Enugu.

mind you it's lagos(cosmopolitan)

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Honestly, some yorubas-not all oh- are very self centred. they only think of them selves

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Good!

Where else in Nigeria that the constitution allowed for such has it happened?

You want to consider the environment if its enabling or not before you even attempt to contest.

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She contested because the constitution allowed it, not because she was allowed by yorubas.

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Important Fact:

An Igbo woman call Ohime or so, can't remember her full name, contested for Lagos State Governorship in the last elections.

Though she did win the election but the act of allowing a not full blown Yoruba to contest election in a Yoruba land alone is proof that Westerners are more liberal and detribalized than any other tribe in Nigeria.

I don't know where else this has happened in Nigeria? correct me if I am wrong.

Please state your facts everytime you make a point thats what the thread says

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Jeez, Was Azikiwe ever a premier in the old western region?

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Lagos is a good example of acceptance and tolerance. Many ethnic groups living together in peace and Harmony, that is the joy of Lagos. A living prove to the ways and thinking of the Yoruba`s. The king of the Yoruba race, oba Sijuwade the Ooni of Ife`s first son is married to a non Yoruba Nigerian. It`s not what u say but what u do. An Ibo man by the name of Nmadi Azikwe won an election in the old western region. Obasanjo a Yoruba president, never accepted by his people and constantly criticized by a Yoruba dominated press. Action speaks louder than words.

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when you don't know and you assume that you know, it becomes a problem, I don't have a reputation of getting into threads like this cause is a complete waist of time, but one thing I detest is standing around and watch people spew drivel as fact and feel good about it. it would only take few statements to enervate what you would have thought to be a well thought out statement, shows some one is not thing thinking. The average tomato seller in Russia is an engineer, but Russia is the most xenophobic, ethnocentric nation on earth. May I also re freshen your memory here, pray tell, is Watson not a racist? You would for ever wallow in delusion if you continue on the  path of believing that knowing that 2+2 is 4 would make you less racist. What that discourage people from racist act in the UK and the US is fear of the consequence, so please smarten up.

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i wasn't talking to you

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yall need to sharrap, the people of Delta are detribalized, liberal and live in interrupted harmony compared to you savages.

so what happened between the tivs and jukun?

This thread is like arguing whether having a stroke is better than having cancer.

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Tilapia  Tilapia   Tilapia

How many times did i call your name, why do u always have to behave like a teenager, You're turning a simple argument into something else.

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I'll take that as a compliment, cos i now you don't know the meaning of ekwekwe

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This is the exposure bit of it.

If all the black people you've seen in your life are farmers, you tend to form the stereotype that no black man can thrive at any other thing.

AND NO!!! The french are not racist.

Have you not heard of the Civil Rights Movement??

Aight let me school you, since the 1960s, various groups have been championing a cause for the end to racism

This opposed the hegemonic belief that black people were intellectually inferior to the white people

This, coupled with various scientific researches since the 70s has created a value concensus that makes people see the need to be politically correct.

So no, education didn't start yesterday, the value concensus is what just started.

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the central people are the most detribalised

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@ Tpia, you're just ekwekwe, just accept that you're wrong, and stop cursing.

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Guys! why don't you drop this arguement?

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Tpia for Godsake accept you are wrong.There is no tribe and ethnic group called Delta.Even within Delta why are Urohbos angry that the capital is asaba?Why are Anioma people intent on creating there own state If the people of the state are so detribalized?

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How did Babangida creating a state change the way they(deltans) behave.

For example, just imagine the government decides to carve out onitsha and it to delta state, will you still say that deltans are detribalised? bearing in mind that a new town have been added to the state.

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nobody is talking about igbo women marrying themeselves, if you have a point say it

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Are these Igbo women getting married to themselves? Ode.

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@Dede, only your post has really made sense here and well presented in an articulate manner.

I detest it when non-igbos say igbos are tribalist because most of them tend to marry Igbos. Marriage is by preference and in most cases gat nothing to do with tribalism and Yorubas are more tribalist than igbos.

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you're going off topic

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Most segments of Nigerian societies could be classified as educated morons. They simple go through educational institutions without the institutions leaving an indelible mark on them.

There must be at least one criterion as a benchmark in order to deduce which of the Nigerian ethnic group is politically above the ethnic shenanigans such as ethnocentricity.

When other Nigerian ethnic groups were trying to sort who they really were, Ndigbo had elected Hausa man as the Mayor of Enugu. The Ndigbo had elected an Ibibio man the head of government in the Eastern Rigion. In addition, Ndigbo had called upon Efik royal figure to lead the house of chiefs.

In the then Western region of Nigeria, the people like Oba of Benin and Chief Obasiki were kicked to the political curb because they were not sons of the soil.

In Northern Nigeria, it was even worse because not only you would have to belong to the right ethnic group, you must also belong to the right religion.

I am of the view that reasons behind insults other or certain ethnic groups tend to pile on the Ndigbo today is because of the latter’s civilized approach to certain political ramifications.   

Ndigbo must eschew their approach in future political issues be it war or play.

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i would say they are the most dispersed-

NL has made it clear they are not detribalised. most of them are still carrying their folks biafra beef on their heads

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lets not do urhobo, isoko, itsekiri and ijaws just yet

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All i'm saying is that they are different from Urhobo,Isoko, Ijaw or Itshekiri

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Everybody has his own share of the mess. Although relatively you can say that:

Marriage - Igbos like marry their own. I think the same with yorubas

Employment/Promotion - Yorubas like employing and promoting their own

Oil Revenue - ND tribes want it all alone

Politics - Hausas believe its their birthright

The truth is that everybody prefers his mother pot of soup even when sour

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Igbo people are the most detrabilised Nigerians!!!

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What makes Ibo people ethnocentric, even though i know they are not the most liberal of the lot, but i know igbo people have interacted mostly with other ethnicities more than any other tribe.

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IMO, most Yoruba pple let go of tribalistic tendencies with education.

They seen to be the only group of people that have let inter-ethnic marriage work for them.

If we're going to be specific, Yoruba pple from Lagos tend to accept pple from different cultures simply because they basically grew up around them.

And Igbo pple are definitely the most ethoncentric lot I've ever met.

Even education does not stop an Igbo man from saying things like 'he has to avoid Delta Igbos'

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@ Tpia

    If you say Deltans are the most Liberal and detribalized, then you are including the igbos in the south-east, because there's no difference between the delta ibos and the south east ibos. deltans really have nothing in common except that they found themselves in the same state.

   Maybe if there was a state named "WAZOBIA", you would have said they are the most liberal bearing in mind that the three major ethnic groups are in this state.

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what lie that i made an assumption there are urhobo's in Delta? i stand corrected if am wrong.

how many times do i have to tell you am an Individual, i'm yoruba by birth and that's it. the word ethnic group sounds much better  than tribe. 

it's not misinformation, both groups have had political tussles in Ogun state, this goes back to their wars over land and trade routes.  I made reference to it on one post and not "spread" the information.

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Niger delta is not supposed to be a geographical expression, it's a coincidence that all the niger delta state are close to each other. There's a difference between Niger delta and south south.

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That's a different scenario. We're talking of tribes here and not a geographical expression.

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Calabar? yes, Delta? Big NO

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behold the magic of NL. you are permitted to talk in some thread and not others. why do people find it easy to accept things they argued against on other threads?

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Edo is usaually classified as a single tribe, even though they are not, at least they are very close culturally.

We all know that Nigerians mistake calabar(city) for the name of a tribe(Efik).

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here we go again, everything on nairaland has to be an argument.

i thought i already gave mine. the answer is none, just like no one is color blind , no one is free of ethnic bias.

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3 ke? more than that

Asaba(capital), Agbor, Kwale, Ogwashuwu, issele-ukwu, Ibuza, just to name a few.

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@Tpia,

 you're not answering the poster's questio by saying delta is the most Liberal and detribalized.

Just accept that u were wrong.

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it gat nothing to do with Oil,  that is how Nigeria is divided, you cant tell me that Imo State is a tribe for example

There are 12 tribes in Delta state. Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa are the three states that make up core niger delta While Edo, Abia, Imo, Akwa ibom, Calabar, Ogun make up the greater niger delta

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