Where are the ObASANJO FANS IN HE HOUSE?
Obasanjo i said, not PDP. mE I AM ONE.
lETS SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT BABA FOR DEMMA TO SEE.
Where are the ObASANJO FANS IN HE HOUSE?
Obasanjo i said, not PDP. mE I AM ONE.
lETS SAY SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT BABA FOR DEMMA TO SEE.
I am saddened at your below the belt Insult of the person of the president this is your unalienable right. you have failed to see anything that has Changed in obasanjo leadrship I know you may hate him but let us be decorative in our criticism it does not take anything away from you.
NIGERIANS THINK BY DAMNING YOUR BROTHER THIEF IMMUNIZES YOU FROM BEING CALLED ONE? WE CANNOT CALL OUR PRESIDENT UGLY NAMES WITHOUT ANY PROOF AND EXPECT OTHER NOT TO CALL US NAMES.
IT IS WHAT WE CALL OURSELVES THAT WE ARE.
I DONT CARE IF I AM ACKNOWLEDGE BUT THE FACT IS THAT THE GUY HAS TRIED.
It is only in "nigeria" and some other jungle societies that people worship their president for doing what he has sworn to "his constiutional duties/obligation!!the president of a truly civilised society is under a compelling obligation to do his duties(he should have no choise but to do what the electorate put him there to do) if he performs extra ordinarily of course he should be comended but not as we see it in Nigeria, eg he gives you one road out of a possible 1million you start shouting and spend millions showing the picture of that road on tv and newspaper
It would be a big lie to say that OBJ has not achieved anything as a president but his failures far out weigh his achievements, Judging by the amount of money he has recieved and by precedence OBJ should have done a lot better than what he has done. I see no reason why he has failed to revive the power(electricty) sector, or roads, this infastuructures are not supposed to be the way the are at all. with the available resources i will have to admit that he has failed totally in those aspects.The EFCC is a very very good step in the right direction even though OBJ himself has undermined and sabotaged their efforts but i still believe subsequent governments will use it for the betterment of the people. if am to score OBJ out of 10 i will give him 2 out of 10, i know it is'nt easy but he definately should have done more for the people.
THe most important and basic things NIGERIAN PEOPLE NEED are 1.Shelter,2.ability for the average nigerian to feed like a normal human ,3.uninterupted power supply,.4.affordable transportation,5. good road. Has your president done much in this regard, especially PHCN, "Problem Has Changed Name??
oh my God, whats happning to Nigeria?Obj will go down in history as a greedy president who wanted 3rd term,who loves playing God,who is an Ogboni man,who loves a do or die politicking,who loves to victimise his opponents through unconstitutional means,who has got no regard for seperation of powers,who is fighting corruption through corrupt means,who conducted the worst election in the history of Nigeria, of course with a few good deeds, BUT NOT ANYWHERE NEAR THE BEST,
i am an avid fan of OBJ for so many reasons.When he came in 1999,Nigeria was like an organ infected wit a malignant type of cancer.OBJ as a doctor has been able to stop the spread of this cancerous growth and to be candid the next 'doctor' only has to supervise the healing process.Chemoteraphy,a way of curing cancer is painful and tof but its worth it if it suceeds.Lets continue the healing of our country bt dont let's give governance to bitter,angry,corrupt and desperate people.Beware of AC WITHOUT COMPRESSOR.
Rule of law my foot. A law that says a proven thief should be freed is no law. A law that says you could be a saboteur in the same govt. you are serving is no law. Laws was made for man and not the other way round, remember?.
Agbakoba is corrupt himself and he is a useless lawyer.
YeYE JUDGES, YEYE LAWYERS.
Good Point ! Well, we were generating 1,900 MW when he assumed power and we are now generating 4,000 MW. You don't notice any improvement at all because our demand is in excess of 10,000 MW. Plus, the gas pipelines are always vandalized, so they have to reduce output at the power stations
True, but OBJ means business.
Please visit this thread and see for yourself !
I forgot to add that OBJ is building 7 new power stations in the Niger Delta states.
Now tell me, when has so much been done for the Niger Delta people ?
The problem with lack of infrastructure in the South South has been there for decades and OBJ can't solve everything in 8 years. But if Rivers can collect $100 million (N14B) monthly, I think that is definately improvement.
Well, as far as security is concerned, I have to admit that OBJ's govt has not performed well at all. I also admit that there are people like Chris Uba and Adedibu that the man is protecting. If you go through my initial post on this thread, you will see that I stated that the man is not flawless.
Now, you mentioned that OBJ has crippled NEPA - How did he cripple NEPA ? He has been reforming that organization, the reason why there has been no improvement is because of the magnitude of the rot of the system. Haven't you read about all the vandalizations taking place to cut the gas supply to the power stations ?
The only thing I blame OBJ for is not embarking on NIPP right from 1999. He was ill-advised at the time that once we attain 4,000 MW (we were at 1,900 MW when he assumed power) we will see a dramatic improvement in power suuply. That turned out to be so untrue because our power needs are in excess of 10,000 MW.
As far as the crises in the Niger Delta, you have to realize that the people of the South South have been brewing for a very long time. They could not come out like they are now during Abacha's time because he would have killed them mercilessly. Afterall, despite all the foreign intervention, Abacha still killed Ken Saro Wiwa.
Is that What you want OBJ to do ? Send in Army Battalions and wipe out all the people living in the creeks because of the hostage takers ?
It is under OBJ that the South South states started receiving 13% derivation. Rivers state collects around $100 million a month sometimes. It is under OBJ that the NDDC came into being. OBJ has just awarded the East-West Multi-billion naira road contract to connect all the Niger Delta states.
So, please the man is trying for the Niger Delta people. Try and put your criticism in perspective.
Extra judicial killing , Crippled Nepa, Disregard for court orders, More crises in Niger Delta, Insecurity in the land, Institionalising gangsterism- Adedibu, Chris Uba e.t.c are the benefit of OBJ rule when you cant get electricity, and security and you are talking about reforms what is reform without security and light check out niger delta creeks for more details
paid our debts - i like him
building railway - i like him
rooting out corruption - i like him
building power station for constant power supply - i like him
repartriated Abacha's stolen funds - i like him
master plan for Niger Delta development - i like him
stronger banks - i like him
telecommunications deregulated - i like him
Nigerian Internet gateway - i like him
satellite in space - i like him
stronger insurance - i like him
restructured avaiation - i like him
transcorp - i like him
Dont abuse me if you dont agree with me - just read and fok off - u know?
This man happened to be President at a time oil prices averaged $60 per barrel so his presidency should be looked at in context.
GDP growth rate for 2006 was put at 5.7% ,with a population growth of about 3% ,that is about 2% in real growth.At that rate.it will take us 200 years to catch up with the US economy's size as at 2006.
To rule a country such as Nigeria is no mean feat and as much as I cannot term myself as an ardent fan of OBJ,I'm quick to admit he's scored more than a passmark in the last 8 years.For the first time in my life I'm convinced we're back on the path of greatness as a nation.We're not there yet but thank God we're not where we used to be(IBB,Abacha days.Pheeeew!).We're definitely on track.I only pray whoever our next leader is will take us further along the path of progress as a nation.
Sorry sir: I disagree that education is going through a reform. I am from the old school, a month of sitting for School Cert, HSC and the university which only the top students can get into. Schools were destroyed by the military, but Obasanjo when he should have helped improving the quality, was too busy engaging in words of attrition and war.
Democracy on th other hand, went to the dogs not to the people. Is a fact that most people jockeying for offices in this times of Obasanjo brand of 'do or die' politics are a bunch of thugs, thieves, cutthroats, unintelligent killers, who are out for self and not the collective.
Infrastructure is coming late! yea much much later if we go by precedence, even though inflated contracts have been awarded to friends and cronies of the president, we know nothing will get done and the people will walk away with money without any repercussions. What is the excuse of letting the infrastructure crumble amid a wash of revenue accruing to the nation. Go to Dubai and see what the leaders did with their oil money.
I will be a fool to say Obasanjo did not achieve or record any developments or good deeds, but he is like a man with his foot in his mouth, one step forward and five back.
[Continuing from where I left off]
And in order to increase our GDP, we need to focus on the non-oil sector. That is why you saw the reform in the banking sector, that is why you saw the reform in our telecommunications, that is why you saw the reform in our federal work force (we cannot spend 15% - 20% of our revenues taking care of federal employees, much of which are redundant), that is why you saw the winding down of Nigeria Airways and the entrance of Virgin Airways and Arik Air.
You would also notice that OBJ has placed lots of emphasis on going into farming. Cassava Production has tripled since he has been in office, and states like Delta and Cross River are investing heavily in Agriculture.
It is all aimed at increasing our GDP through the non-oil sector. This is not a feat that one achieves overnight, OBJ inherited a big rot and it is going to take time to feel the impact of his reform program. But we are on the right track.
So basically what you are saying is that OBJ should have completely solved all of Nigeria's problems within 8 years in office ! Listen, I have said this earlier, I said OBJ is not flawless. The man has made mistakes, no doubt. But at the sametime, there are some achievements that have been made since he has been in office.
As far as the laundry list of problems you have listed are concerned, no one can solve all those problems in 8 years ! No one.
People are under the impression that Nigeria is so rich because we are the 7th/8th largest oil exporter in the world. Nigeria's GDP, with our population of 140 million is estimated at $77 billion. That makes our per capita income less than $600
Now, New York City is estimated to have about 8 million inhabitants. Do you know what NYC's GDP is ? A whopping $413.9 billion !! That is just for 8 million people !! Do you now see the meaning of wealth ! Bear in mind that NYC has no Navy, No Army or Air force to cater for.
There is no way anyone can provide all that laundry list of yours with our meager resources. You understand !!
I have given you the numbers, so quit relying on what you read on the news or from critics as a means of judging OBJ's administration. It is going to take years of continued growth in GDP before we can reduce poverty and increase our standard of living in Nigeria.
@ Bankole,It is easy for you to sit in your condo and say all the great things you want OBJ to achieve in his Presidency.
Democracy has been Institutionalize,check out the number of people jostling to get elected into various offices across the state and how no candidate has an edge over the other.
Nigeria has been united more than ever,the cries of marginalization exist only in the minds of few rent seeking individuals.OBJ's government has given High profile positions to qualified minorities.
Infrastucture redevelopment is coming late all thanks to an un waiving commitment to global best practice and due process in award of contracts.A solid foundation has been laid for more work in Infrastucture development,a case study is the NIPP.
Education is undergoing a radical reform which would see Nigeria's educational system becoming world class,all thanks to a visionary minister appointed by Obj WHO IS NOW TO RESUME As a VP in THE WORLD BANK.
With his reform Agenda he is making an Impact in people's lives,it will take only the discerning to see it.Look all around you and tell you cant find a single landmark achievement of OBJ's leadership
EFCC,, Media is a powerful tool that makes people believe what they want the people to believe.Time would judge if EFCC is right in its approach or not
"he has set a stage for fighting corruption in Nigeria" and quickly went to work dismantling it!
The truth is went through the motions and pretence of fighting corruptions.
EFCC was set up to do this and if he had left Ribadu alone, he would have done a good job of going after the like of Bode George, Anenih, Jimoh Ibrahim, Ali and a whole lot of the president's thiefing friends
The big chance to institutionalize democracy, unit the nation, sweep away corruption, good infrastucture, good schools which are not perpetually on stike, good health facilities, run away inflation, (what about water, light and housing-in Fela's words).
Rewrite a good constitution for the nation, not one to perpetuate himself.
The chance to realy make a difference in the people's day to day life, and not not making life harder for the people.
Obasanjo failed and will forever be known as the president who earned a lot but failed to make a difference. He is an evil egotistical maniacal desport.
Yes, i agree with u he is a farmer and not a politician. He is so liberal that he does not bribe courts (judges) as some do, also, he owns no media house to sing his prasie everyday. If i keep talkin about him i won't leave this place. We are missing him already (i mean the truly educated fellas here).
i like am b/c he stopped IBB from coming back
also he always wears agbada for international conference when other african leaders wear coat. i love him for that.
he doesn't pretend to be polished. he is himself always. i like am for these reasons. . . . . . . e get other reasons why i loathe am too, but no be for this thread.
You don't know how happy I was when I read about this. When Europeans and Americans can buy bonds in GTB and 1st Bank, it means we have made progress !! These are indigenous Nigerian Banks and we are talking about the Non-oil sector. This is just a classic example of foreign direct investment.
OBJ's hard fight on corruption has created an environment in which our banks can raise bonds abroad. I swear, I was so happy when I read about this.
For those that say Abacha was Better than OBJ, do you think indigenous Nigerian banks could raise millions of dollars/euros by issuing their bonds overseas during Abacha's tenure ? I think we all know the obvious answer to this question.
Obasanjo, Hate him,love him,he is unmistaken Nigerian's Finest leader.Here is a man ,Fate has blessed to lead Nigeria 2ce not once.And on both occassion history has proven he is the best man to lead this country.
rewind 1976. Nigeria Airways had 26 well maintained aircraft.
Fast forward 1999,Nigeria Airways had no aircraft just an hanger full of junk parts.
Present day 2007.Virgin Nigeria,a new baby of OBJ inward thinking is doing Nigeria proud.
rewind 1998.Abacha awarded 4 GSM License to 1 company,CELIA MOTOPHONE,7000 LINES
fastforward 2001 OBJ awarded 4 GSM license to 4 companies,rollout 1 million lines
Present day 2007 ,4 Gsm Operators 23 million lines,3G lines on its way
NIPP,National Intergrated Power Project,Possibilities endless
Human Resources: Soludo,Iweala,Kapor,Oby Ezewesili,FFK
Nigsat 1,Nigcommsat 1
Banking Reforms, GTB's Eurobond,1st Bank 's Wall st Bond.
External Debt Payment.
It takes purposeful leadership to achieve this despite the distractions of a looting Atiku,a thieving Alams,
Obj is Nigeria's Man of the Century,as my Oga would say Baba of Africa ,no rival
That is what you get for having a Southerner as President ! People were given portfolios based on their competence, not their ethnicity. People like Ezekwesili, Soludo, Okonjo-Iweala were all OBJ's advisers and he was so impressed with them that he made them ministers.
I recall Ezekwesili wanted to remain at the Due Process office, but OBJ insisted that she be a minister.
There is this lady named Ifueko Omoigui, she heads the Federal Inland Revenue Service. She is also doing a fantastic job !
I agree with Afam.
OBJ by no means is flawless, but he has set a stage for fighting corruption in Nigeria. I don't think it is a mere coincidence that we received a BB- rating from Fitch international. We did not receive an A, but we are atleast getting somewhere.
Also, the foreign exchange rate of $1 to N128 (I think its N128 - N135) has been fairly stable in the last couple of years. I also credit OBJ for bringing some sanity to our Banking industry in Nigeria. Charles Soludo's N25 billion capitalization requirement means Nigerians can make bank deposits and safely sleep at night without fear of liquidation.
I really wish Obasanjo had started his National Integrated Power Project (NIPP) right from 1999 so we can have some relief by now with our power situation in the country. Another thing that baffles me about Obasanjo's administration is how the federal government owes so many contrators and retirees billions of naira; also, we continue to take world bank loans, even though we have over $40 billion in reserves.
The money we owe our road contractors and retirees is not even up to $3 billion, Why not pay them off so they can rest in peace when the funds are available ? It really puzzles me.
I'm a supporter of OBJ in spite of his inperfections, I admire him mostly for his
courage and wisdom in engaging the likes of Chukwuma Soludu, Dora Akinluyi, Okonji Iweala, Oby Ezekwesili, El Rufai, Ribadu, Irene Chigbue, Ernest Ndukwe etc, Our past leaders played politics with everything and our lives,
(As I list out this names, it's hard to ignore that most of the over-achievers in Nigerian goverment today are Igbos!!! hmmmm , and some Hausa).
Na wah for Nigerians, if you are not a fan of OBJ then don't bother posting on this thread as the title is clear enough.
I am one of his fans for the simple reason that he decided to tackle corruption head on even though he is not perfect and more needs to be done.
But for starting a process that will help Nigeria and Nigerians in the long run, I support him.
If we can tackle corruption in Nigeria we can tackle any other thing.