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Who Do You Think Should Be The man To Rule Nigeria and why?

among the popular political figures in Nigeria today, who do you think should be the apex man as president who can steer the nation forward in the best possible way? in my own opinion and priority, corruption is a big issue. therefore i go for buhari who I think can dish corruption a big blow.

  The best thing we can do to save the country is to ensure that we do not have another yar'adua or obj as the our next president. therefore we need to start now to work on how we can place the right messiah on that seat. we cant afford another imposed inative president. fellow NLs tell us the man and the reason for your choice. so at the end we can counteract the riggers and place the man there by FORCE.

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Sorry Sir but you typify the problem with Nigeria today. You are busy touting Chris Okotie who is at best an unknown quantity ( and Lord knows Nigeria , from its bitter experience with Yar Adua , cannot afford another untested hand) while you totally ignore Fashola who is proving , through visionary hardwork , to be head and shoulder above everyone else as an example of what a Nigerian leader should be !!! What is wrong with us Nigerians that makes us pledge our support along ethnic and partisan lines?

When are we going to become politically mature enough to rise above bigotry, ethnicity, nepotism , favouritism, partisanship and vested interest in recognising that the best performers must get the best jobs? Can't we understand that this is the difference responsible for the progress nations like Ghana, Benin, et al are making currently? I.e promoting their best men while we stifle ours?

If we Nigerians know how to think pragmatically then we should all conclude with one voice that , based on what we have seen so far , it must be Fashola.

This nation is moving towards becoming a failed state and if Nigerians understand critical thinking they will realise that this is not a time to elect those who want to learn on the Job (like Yar Adua). This is the time to chose a proven performer who knows exactly what he wants to achieve and has a feasibility blueprint to that effects. The talks of going to search for 'unrecycled' leaders (as one forumer argued)  is totally foolish in how it does not take into account Nigeria's extremely precarious situation .

Yes, some names come to mind but if we all acknowledge how seriously on the brink of collapse Nigeria is we will not f.uck around experimenting - as OBJ did to our detriment. We will simply , Fire Brigade style, get the most competent performer around (Fashola) and plead with him to take the job before all our current problems overwhelm us and tip us into complete anarchy.

Some of the things Fashola advocates (like deregulation of the power sector, true federalism, State Policing as seen in the USA, PPP Utilisation -explained below , etc) shows that , with his excellent performance so far , he is the man for the top Job.

http://www.pppcouncil.ca/aboutPPP_definition.asp

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I disagree. Having real information simply means having actual data/information about the person to work with. And no, a person does not necessarily have to have been in office for anyone to gauge if he is a potentially good candidate or not. I know the jury is still out on him but a good example is Obama. That man has next to no record in politics to show before he became president.

You only need to consider the persons background, work history, family history to figure out the kind of person that person is and where best to place the person. We currently do not check the history and achievements of our leaders before we let them in the door. We have opened the door to murderers and criminals. Why be afraid of considering REAL information this time around?

No. Even novices have history and information to offer. That is why companies out here do background checks on people with experience and none. They consult the past of these men /women looking to get a seat in their companies to figure out if these people will be potential headaches or a gift to their companies.

What did Buhari stand for? I remember well the Buhari-Idiaghon regime was mostly headed by Idiaghon. I am not sure what you mean when you say I should go back to what Buhari stood for.

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You think Buhari is an exception, but I don’t. Why? Because based on information I have on him, he is not a man I would be willing to bet on come the next election. And that is fine that you may not see it that way but does any of us really have REAL information on him or are we just making conclusions here based on hear say?

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clinton was not hawk and he was not a poolitician as such ,what about barrack obama,tinubu nevar tasted power even the senator wey im dey carry about he no for one day tsep into that chmber,what is politics the ability to gevern with policies,godd policiees,its not old we want we want new ideas that will work,chris is a practical person and thts why i think he will doo the job.wether he is a  new generation politician o r he is of the old

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Because he is the only one on the list with extensive experience in managing and controlling large federal institutions. So to some extent he would have a good idea as to what is required to perform at that exalted level.

Considering the complexity of Nigeria and the multi-faceted demands of being a president and commander-in chief it would be foolhardy to consider a person qualified for such an office merely because he is/has been a good state governor.

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Buhari is an exception? How so?

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The PDP might try and be slick and give it to Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi . LOL but hes a fake under the PDP too so,

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Fashola shud, why? because he ruled well there in lagos

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I already answer that question when I stated that not you or I can guarantee that the new stock will not turn into vampires, but I am not sure that is not enough reason to continue with the current breed of vampires we have now, neither is it reason enough for us to continue the SAME OLD WAY OF PICKING these people.

I am not here to give a solution, I do hope to get us all thinking more about what we continue to do and how this may be a good time to start thinking differently.

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How many proven old timers do you know of?

Are you sure of that? You chose to experiment with UNPROVEN oldtimers like Obasanjo, and now Yar adua, yet you are still afraid of unproven new comers? Lol

This is the same reason given for selection of Abiola, Obasanjo and now Yar adua. You sure say no be the same old you dey repeat here?

If you are leaning to installing Fashola for president, if the man sticks to his word, and refuses to run, then what? You go for the next OLD TIMER on your little list,  say Buhari? Lol

Disclaimer: Questions asked are just questions.

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I would say a farly elected house of reps and senate.

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And my opinion, I am yet to give because you are still not on the same plate with me and so it is of no value at this point.

If you note the questions I asked in my last post, as below --

You will note that this is NOT about any particular list but about measuring each and every person we consider as if we were considering him/her for the first time. This same question I would pose to people who come in proclaiming PETER OBI, AMAECHI, ORJI, or even OSHIOMOLE as their choice for President in 2011. 

This is not about calling for a new list but simply asking we take a look at the way we pick and maybe consider doing things differently this time around. RECYCLING is the way we seem to go FIRST. We have been doing that for decades and as a result, we keep getting the same Old goons in office, who end up showing us their real picture in the end.

Well, this brings me to the question I asked earlier. Why are we not doing things differently? Why are we not approaching this problem differently? You argue that you do not know any new leaders or ordinary Nigerians out there who can leader at the local or national level. I ask you, can you or I even guarantee that anyone you elect will definitely do a good job? If not, what measures do you/we have in place to correct such a situation knowing the chances are high that we might get the same old minds come 2011?

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Your opinion (not advice or leadership) was all i asked.

Again, i share your sentiment for new leadership and I think most of us vested in the future of Nigeria should seek new leadership or pursue the ambition (when ready).

what if I argue that there are no new leaders that I know of (like wise many Nigerians) that is READY and CAPABLE to rule Nigeria come 2011. My hope is that some would suggest otherwise and provide some names and credentials.

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I believe you still do not understand where I am coming from. I am not here to tell you what to do or who not to vote for. I am not here to tell you which of those that you know that I am privy to, nor am I here to tell you which of those on that list I am not familiar with.

I am simply here asking the questions I have asked so far. Knowing what we know of how our politicians behave, how our “messiahs” seem to turn into vampires once we get them where they secretly desire to go, why are we still engaged in recycling and picking messiahs from the same old stock? Why does it seem RECYCLING is still at the top of our list of Solutions for the situation? Why are we not doing anything differently this time around? Why are we setting our standards by what we have when we know we can have better, since most of us have been outside and seen how it really could be if we really wanted it bad enough?

I have issues with RECYCLING that is why I stated that CLEARLY TOO. If I find better out there, why recycle?

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I wonder whether they picked up Barrack Obama and Gordon Brown from the streets or they were 'recycled' from the political office they occupied before into the heads of government in their country.

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@Kobojunkie -

No games,  I like many other Nigeria don't know too many new leaders that are competent. Matter of fact, i just had to look two up 2 names suggested on the listed (ernest ndukwe, Fola adeola). That is why I was interested in learning about new or emerging leaders. The truth is, if you dont know of any, it should prove to you how we might not know as well. so where can we find these new leaders with INTEREST that are [b]ready and capable [/b]to lead a tumultuous and dysfunctional country like Nigeria come 2011?

By the way - I dont see anything wrong in recycling good and innovative leaders especially those like Fashola or Donald Duke. Albeit if newer ones can come out and convince us about how they can best these examples, I would be even happier.

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@rookie,

I made it clear in my response to him that I am not here to SCHOOL anyone in how to choose leaders or what leaders to choose or not. And as I made it clear in my response to his post expressing his choice, he is definitely free to choose as he wants. I am not here to TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, I am simply here to debate what is laid out as is. I am almost certain that is clear in my response to @Faoni.

I stated that I found the idea of recycling to be a pathetic one, knowing what we know today. Does that not somehow imply we should look out for NEW FACES, especially those who have proven themselves in their various areas, and essentially look for new ways of handling our political class?

I am here for the good arguments/debates that help both sides better understand the issue or the other side's view. That is why I signed up here in the first place. Again, if you do not understand what is asked, simply point out what exactly you have a problem with rather than trying to patronize me in bids of scoring some point or whatever it is you hoped to accomplish with the above post. If you want to turn this into a MEANINGLESS argument, then note I am not going to attend to you in that. That's my 2 cents.

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@eina

don't bother yourself. That's what critics do, they criticize. Since they don't have any ideas to contribute, they don't want anybody to have an idea to contribute. So they are here with us just waiting debunk everything.

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Sigh!!!

and the cycle continues.

Read what my response to @faoni572  was. I never declared myself a critic, you did all that yourself. I have simply asked you questions and waited, up till now for you to convince me of the relevance of the ones you have asked so far, and I am asking same again. If you, as @faoni572 did, submit to the fact that your way is the way you want it, I am fine with that. But no need to make me or the opinions expressed by me the ISSUE here.

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WTF is Dimeji Bankole doing on the list?

There are some other names I don't even know there as well.

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What is it you do not really understand in my statements so far?

The fact that I find our need to recycle pathetic? Or the fact that I feel we seem to be heading in the same old direction which has us lowering our standards, and naming messiahs where we ought to have learnt that we do not need any more of those? I am not sure what part of that you are having a hard time with.

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@Kobojunkie

If you're not here to state who you think should be the next president of Nigeria, then is it possible that you're only on this thread to criticize other people's views as usual?

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dunno and don't give a Bleep as Nigeria's problem is not always one of leadership direction as Nigeria is being ran by mafias that will only go away if exterminated.

Anyone can reach the summit (by rigging) but will be frustrated by the crippled infrastructure/failed state called Nigeria.

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Well, you are free to choose whom you will.

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I choose Fashola because of what he has achieved so far. I know definitely they are people out there who can even do better than him, but I just think that we put somebody that we have seen his achievements instead of voting somebody we are not sure of his capability. Voting Fashola does not stop us looking for more like him to replace idle ones we have. Of course the more people like him the better for this country.

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I don’t make it my place to tell others what to do or not do before 2011. This is because I expect it to be apparent, bu now, to every Nigerian out there that something ought to be done on our part to make sure we do not continue going through this same hell.

You choose to make Fashola your mark, and I ask, is it that you feel you cannot do better than that man has done so far? Do you feel he is the best you can get for your future?

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@Kobojunkie, I would like you to tell us your view. What do you think should be done on or before 2011. What are the measures to be taken to ensure the right person is there or how do you think we can get people like Fashola to replace these incompetent ones?

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sjeezy u talk well ,as long as this people keep doin this tribal analysis we are doomed , why are playing the same card our fathers have played, lets wake up nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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pastor chris okotie will be the only answer and as long as we dont put him there its our loss not his, am watching and i want people to prove me wrong ,some one tell me why he cant be president

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Mr moderator put Soludo's name and Ngozi Iweala's name on the list and let us see how popular they are.

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Set what standard? Why, again, do you believe this question of yours is relevant at this time?

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KEN NNAMANI is moderate so was OBASANJO- i think anyone from the PDP stands a chance of winning. Also reports have said that OBJ is getting out of control within the PDP and trying to take it away from its founders(the Elite north), there are two sides now OBJ vs IBB.

KEN NNAMANI and his pdp supporters have sided with IBB.

Igbos and easterners should not be fooled by this man, when OBJ ran for president, majority of yorubas didn't support him even though he was Yoruba. They knew it was a gimmick and were right. SHINE YO EYES OHHH

But if it floats igbos boats, the pdp will elect an igbo president, Igbos will see he was fake (like yorubas knew about OBJ)and come to their senses on how Nigeria really is.  That there are just as many corrupt igbos, as yorubas, as fulani-hausas.

Anyone who isn't with the pdp and is for a better Nigeria should win

but if it takes KEN NNAMANI to make the EAST shine their eyes then so be it. The Aftermath of another failed pdp presidency by an igbo after a fulani who was after a yoruba lol. Everyone will see tribes don't matter.LOL

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@eina

I suggest you modify your topic to be PERSON rather than MAN. It is annoying to think only a man should be considered for presidency in Nigeria. "We purpose first yankee get betta Mrs. President and First Lord sef"

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Fashola for President of Nigeria 2011 !

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It will definitely be unfortunate if come 2011, we allow the same breed of politicians continue after all we have seen and learnt. The world will definitely be watching.

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I typed 2001. Why did I type 2001?

KEN NNAMANI for president 2011.

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That is the thinking of nigeria's present generation. Political big weight equivalent to past commisssioners, ministers, governors, etc

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So you are convinced that continuing to recycle the same stock of politicians is the way to go? In your opinion you have to identify your idea of distinguished and capable politicians by going back to the same stock, after all you have learnt?

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Yar Adua became President because of the carefully contrived myth that "he was the most fiscally responsible Governor in Nigeria" at the time. Political Parties (most notably the PDP) now believe that member Governors have the most experience to challenge for the Presidency.

From what we have seen so far , and going with the current trend of limiting the recruitment of the President to the Governors of Nigerian States , I would think Fashola should qualify to be our president more than anyone else .

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As for me I prefer Fashola the present Lagos State governor to be the president. Judging from what he's doing in Lagos I believe he can steer this country forward

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But this is not fair, where are the womans to rule Nigeria?. What kind of mentality is that, we can only vote for a man and we cannot vote for a woman?. Where is the freedom of choice?.

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No one.

Vague ideas:

1. Get rid of national elections and replace with state elections:

   State citizens should be presented with candidates fighting to be elected for two major posts. That of Governor and (SR) State Representative. 

2. Replace the current legislature with a tripartite house.

     

First House:

(The most powerful) should be run by a cabinet made up of State Representatives. They should be the ones that elect the chairman. The Chairman therefore is the most powerful man in the country. However, under this new system, naturally because he is only chairman of the ruling house his power will not be as powerful as our current president.

Second house:

Should be inhabited by traditional leaders who give advice and have collective power of veto.

Third House:

Should be the house of the people, however, ideally it should be inhabited by media people, student heads, teachers union, labour etcetera.

The judiciary would form an auxiliary body with enhanced powers.

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Ibori for President while Odili for Vice president

we don finish be that.

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Okay, I understand better now.

Ken Nnamani. He's a very good moderator. What people don't understand is that to Preside is about the same thing as to Moderate.

The man knows how to work good in this country without taking too drastic an action that will see his end, and too mild an action that will see ours.

Ken Nnamani was the man who put the third term agenda to its grave without direct confrontation with OBJ.

The man is not power crazed. He could have remained in the Senate or gone into the Presidential race, but he did not.

He is in the right party that is most likely to win the 2011 Presidential Elections, and he's from a people that deserve it the most.

He has a sincere outlook. As a president, you need to have a sincere look because things work better and faster when people find it easier to believe you.

KEN NNAMANI FOR PRESIDENT 2001.

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each person to provide a single recommendation backed with reasons

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Ken Nnamani

Dimeji Bankole

Earnest Ndukwe

Nuhu Ribadu

BabaTunde Fashola

Donald Duke

Pat Utomi

Fola Adeola

El Rufai

Dora Akunyili

I searched by brain so long to find the name of a single woman whom I thought could rule this country. What's happening to our women leaders in politics?

Dora obviously gets more out of hand with the more power you put in her hands, but there was a time when we all believed and that's the Dora I'm talking about.

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@Poster, what is the essence of this thread? Why this question? Why?

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