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Who Is To Be Blamed? Nuhu Or Umaru

Interesting article but in all honesty, whose fault is it

Ribadu or Yaradua

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cool point!

Apparently some folks just don't get it, one has to drill it into their black hard head.

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Biggy I second that point. Perfection is the root of success and my people should pay attention to this element or else it will be a rat race at the same point for another 40 years.

@topic I wouldn't blame Umaru at this point because it takes time, honesty and intelligence to cleanup the mess Mr EFCC and his father have created. I still think something special will happen very soon. It is not fair for all these criminals to loot the states treasuries for personal use and still walk around the country freely, they must pay.

Don't blame Nuhu (he did not understand the game) or Umaru (he is still a new kid on the block), blame our former president (he is the root to all corruption that took place btw 1999 to 2007).

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Making EFCC an effective and efficient organization should be our main focus. Dancing behind a partially accomplished goal and making unnecessary noise is not the right thing to do. It only signifies settlement for less, which also happens to be the main negative factor that continues to debase our value as mankind and as a nation. This type of state of mind should be rejected under any circumstances.

Perfection should always be our number 1 priority at all time; this is the only way things in general will improve in Nigeria.

Few steps:

Establish an organizational policy

Plan the process

Provide resources

Assign responsibility

Train people

Manage organizational protocols

Involve and monitor stakeholders

Monitor the process

Monitor the commitments

Monitor risk

Respect the citizens

Respect the constitution

Periodically review the operations' progress, performance and issue

Review the accomplishment and result of all operations at selected operation milestone

And finally make necessary adjustment.

It is obvious that 85% of the time these steps do not exist when putting together activities in Nigeria. It just makes no sense and a waste of time to many in Nigeria; and this is sad.

It is also obvious that no one takes EFCC serious (presence or past) in Nigeria; and this is also sad.

But if things are done sincerely and accordingly, general improvement will be witnessed by all in Nigeria within a very short period.

Future should be our best friend and perfection that contrives the future should be given a chance in Nigeria.

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"Too many are Too corrupt for Too long. If you can not punish all, then it makes no sense to punish any"

@DisGuy:

This statement simply means "all corrupt leaders should pay"

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Posted by DisGuy

@DisGuy:

What do you mean by saying "if police can't arrest all of them"?

See? The problem here is the fact that we, Nigerians do not understand perfection; no one is willing to get the job done correctly. No one is willing to take the time and do it right. (this is why Bola Ige's killer is still out there drinking pepper soup today).

And we can not continue like this, If we want to move forward effectively, we must identify all the loop holes, correct things and stop wanting to quickly settle for less.

Hell yes, they can all be arrested!

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@McKren:

Dude, you now sound like a loser.

Of course, my posting are very similar because there is only one fact and one has to drill it into your head.

And do yourself a favor, go ahead and do what you do best "melt away like an ice cube" you are not obligated to respond anymore.

I have effectively responded to all your rubbish and it is obvious that you do not have any material; I can't wait for it to be made publicly that Ribadu and his master (OBJ) have created an obstacle for this new administration to function or respond effectively to war against corruption.

That is the fact!

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really?

so if ten criminals rob you, if the police cant arrest all of them, they shouldnt bother arresting those they can?

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You errorneously think you are making sense.

You are neither making sense nor making progress.

So stop ranting about the same thing repeatedly, you bore the hell out of me. I come here thinking you will present new facts and arguments only to meet misguided rantings. Please lets hear other people's views.

Your most recent post on this thread does not offer anything new diiferent from your first post. I thought you were full of stuffs to give out now I know how much you have.

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Posted by McKren:

@McKren:

What does Yar'Adua's true colour got to do with the failure that has been implemented by Ribadu and his master (OBJ) many many months ago?

My man, it is clear that you have no material; and deep down in your soul, you know the fact, you know that Ribadu has directly and indirectly contributed to the down fall of WAR AGAINST CORRUPTION IN NIGERIA.

And that is the fact!

No need to wait for anything, you can never never win this debate.

Pretty soon RIBADU himself will publicly accept his responsibility; just watch.

And please, do not mis-understand my point; Mr Ribadu is a fine Nigeria and still represents one of my favorite men in Nigeria today, but if we truly want to move forward, the truth must be known.

There is absolutely no reason to kiss Bottom, I don't like the smell of poo.

What you see is what you get, I'm very firm to my belief.

I fear nobody, but God!

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I will come back to debate this issue when the cabinet list has been released and when the electoral tribunal is over. After then we will know Yaradua's tru colour.

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Asari-Dokubo blasts EFCC

Ijaw freedom fighter, Alhaji Mujahid Abubakar Dokubo- Asari, has launched a blistering attack on the anti-corruption campaign of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), accusing the agency of selective operation. He also gave an indication that he would drag former President Olusegun Obasanjo to court to account for money the country earned in eight years.

Speaking in Yenagoa, Bayelsa State capital, Dokubo said the case of Chief Diepreye Alamieyseigha of Bayelsa State, has exposed the deceit in the anti-corruption war as former governors, who misapproprated more than the ex-Bayelsa governor are free.

He regretted that the Ijaw sacrificed Alamieyeseigha and allowed him to be disgraced.

His words: "All of you were here when our brother, Alamieyeseigha, was governor of this state. I was not on friendly terms with him, but immediately he was arrested, I became one of his crusaders even in prison, because the cause is an Ijaw cause.

The disgrace of one Ijaw man is the disgrace of Ijaw people. The pain of one Ijaw man is pain to all Ijaw people. We can quarrel and fight at home but not outside because we are an endangered people. The Ijaw man is an endangered man. Alamieyeseigha is the only one in prison. All those who were impeached went to court and they were returned to their government houses.

"Today, they are free and being patted on the back to return the property they had stolen without accounting for these property. What sort of judgment and justice can be so selective that one man would die in prison while others, who stole more than him, are walking free and even thinking of becoming ministers?

"Ijaw people were disgraced that Alamieyeseigha stole money when people who stole more than him are walking free. We will resist and must resist this evil."

On his declared war against former President Olusegun Obasanjo, Dokubo said there was no going back as he is prepared to drag Obasanjo to court to account for all the money his administration got in his eight year rule.

He explained that Obasanjo, during his rule, created wealth for young Yoruba men with the money and resources of the Niger Delta and shut out people of the region.

Hear him: "I am sorry to say this because I would not want to compromise the Bayelsa State government’s position, but I am not a PDP member, so I must say this. Obasanjo created wealth for people with our own money. Obasanjo created wealth for five young Yoruba men. I am older than most of them. If they have access to those resources, I see no reason at 43 years old I cannot, because in my family land, there are oil wells. I Alhaji Mujahid Dokubo- Asari am taking Gen Olusegun Obasanjo to court to account for every kobo he received in his eight years rule. We are taking the fight to them. That is the truth of the matter."

He also sounded a note of warning to militants operating in the region, noting that they should not play into the hands of the enemies who are looking for ways to disgrace Vice President Goodluck Jonathan from his current position.

"Today, I believe Mr. Goodluck Jonathan, the vice president of the Nigerian state, should be given a chance. Though I don’t believe in the Nigerian state as I have not accepted to be a Nigerian, majority of Ijaw believe in Jonathan and we will give him a chance. We will encourage Ijaw people to give him a chance. I have not been paid to say this.

The previous government offered all sort of things to compromise the struggle and jettison it, but I refused. So it is not what this government would give me that would be better. I chose to remain in prison for one year and 10 months. I want to say as Ijaw people if we do not give Goodluck Jonathan a chance we would regret it, because our enemies would exploit our refusal to give him a support to disgrace him from this government and we would not like another Ijaw man to be disgraced.

"For me, we allowed Alamieyeseigha to be disgraced. We should not allow Jonathan to be disgraced because if Jonathan is disgraced we are all disgraced."

Dokubo,who said he has temporarily shelved his plans to travel for medical attention because of a scheduled meeting with major militant groups, said they had agreed to meet with him, stressing, however, "we are not fighting or cleaning up the mess created by government."

http://odili.net/news/source/2007/jun/26/814.html

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in whose Regime are they trying to be ministers?

in Ribadu's regime I guess?

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@McKren:

Quote by DOKUBO from Nigerian Newspaper (6/26/07[b])

Thank God, our new president is intelligent, a listener, honest and understands the role of a true learder.

Mr. McKren:

The wuruwuru, magomago, rushrush, pafpaf, and short cuts ERA is dead.

The Nigerian problems will be studied profoundly and a clear and effective final decision will be made at the right time.

Nigeria belongs to all of us, we all have our rights, we are all equal and no more dancing behind a fake messiah.

Problems in Nigeria will be resolved collectively as a group. There is no more one man show in town.

Failure is behind us and perfection is what we crave!

Nigerian president is here, it's time for business

One love

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"Too many are Too corrupt for Too long. If you can not punish all, then it makes no sense to punish any"

If any other action is taken, then the possibility that there will be a major crisis around the country is very high and this could also place our nation into a permanent incapacitated mode.

Any reasonable individual will agree with this point.

McKren, this statement is not the same as "looted leaders should be set free"

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Posted by McKren:

Now I think you're smoking something very strong.

My Man, when did I ever make such a recommendation?

Dude, wake up, it's Big B1.

What is wrong with you?

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Posted by McKren:

My man, action is louder than just mere Pussycat word. Ribadu should have taken the same action he took against ATIKU to stop folks like AKALA, ADEBIDU, CHRIS UBA and others from participating in any political election.

But, no, he did nothing, but made few noise. I guess his master did not approve it.

Give me a break. It is either you are here to vigorously fight the corrupt leaders or you're at the other side of the river.

Ribadu had all the tools and opportunity to do what is right, but he did not and it is a pure failure.

Ribadu would have gotten 100% support of Nigerians if he had only fought the fight fairly and un-selectively.

Give me a break, he created more confusion than anything else!

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Now you are standing up for what is right at all time by suggesting that all those who looted should be set free and yet celebrating every now and then that Ehindero is in the duck.

I have told you before, you lack the moral right to lecture Ribadu on ethics.

You simply have no clue what right and wrong is, no matter how you disguise your love for Nigeria you true intentions shows by every word you type.

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Posted by McKren:

If Ribadu's effort was sincere, then he would have stood up for what is right. He wouldn't have cared if he was going to be fired by the president or not.

This is also called standing up like a man for what is right.

My man, do you know that "a man's belief is as strong as his identity"?

Ehidero is another one that did not stand for what is right and he's currently paying as we speak.

Do you know how much money spent by EFCC during this period?

It is not about doing the right thing, it about doing what is right all the time.

My man, do you know the difference between the two?

A beg give me a break; Ribadu is totally responsible.

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That sums up how misguided your argument is and your desperate attempt to blackmail Ribadu at all cost.

Ribadu did not play any role in the impeachment of Ladoja and Peter Obi.

If anything he thought Adebibu and Alao Akala were not fit to be leaders.

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Posted by angel101:

@Angel101

Excellent point; which means Ribadu wasn't really fighting to delete corruption in Nigeria. He was only following the instruction from his master> This is also one of the reasons he has been labelled as a political police dog.

So, Mr. McKren, stop preaching rubbish.

If the goal was to clean up and completely delete corruption in Nigeria, then Ribadu would have produced a little bit more and his duties would have been more effective.

I haven't seen any solid benefit from Ribadu's era as yet; I truly believe that he created more confusion than anything else.

He's responsible for the crisis in Oyo state, Anambra and he has created the delay and the reason why none of these governors has been arrested.

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@BigB1 & McKren

I beg to disagree with u. while i agree that Ribadu was selective in dealing with corruption, i believe he did the job to best of his ability. Abi u go do pass wetin ur master send u? he was acting on instructions and could not do otherwise. EFCC was not an independent body. shikena!

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@McKren:

Could you please introduce to me the meaning of "selective"

Deep down, Mr Ribadu understands his mistakes and pretty soon he will publicly accept the responsibility like a man and then move on.

FYI:I have nothing to gain or lose if IBB is touched; hence there is absolutely nothing for me to prove.

Too many are Too corrupt for Too long. If you can not punish all, then it makes no sense to punish any.

This is the fact and the latest in Abuja; the most intelligent and effective way of addressing war against corruption.

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Stop using the word selective cos you dont understand the meaning

You can fool those you want to fool not me.

Your personal grudges with Ribadu is for attempting to touch Nigeria's untouchable, IBB.

Prove me wrong if you can.

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@McKren

We will never attain the mountain peak being selective.

Discrimination is a crime!

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@McKren:

Obviously you love Ribadu and it is true that love is blind; this is also why you've found it very difficult to figure out what Mr Ribadu did wrong or how he refused to carry out his duties accordingly during his time as chairman of the EFCC.

Yes, you're absolutely correct that the man tried his best, and his best has also created an obstacle for this new administration. Hence his best represents failure.

This man had everything to exercise his duty successfully, but of course he was misguided and blew this opportunity. At the end of the day, there is absolutely nothing to show for all his operations.

Believe it or not, this new administration is currently struggling with some decisions just because of Ribadu and OBJ's fake war against corruption.

It is crystal clear to all (except McKren) that the job was sloppy and totally unprofessional.

With folks like you around, people like Ribadu will never get to see or understand what they've done incorrectly or how to improve.

If we, Nigerians embrace perfection in everything that we do, 90% of our problems will be solved immediately.

But folks like you, McKren refuse to understand this fact.

It's all about wuruwuru, magomago, pafpaf and short cuts; and at the end of the day the outcome will be a fat zero as usual.

Go to Abuja and ask anybody and they will let you know that the governors (thieves) have not been arrested all because of Mr Ribadu's incredible accomplishment.

Give me a break.

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BigB1

You know that am obviously not running away from you, when you have a leader doing your wish in his desperate search for acceptance. All your claims will easily be confused as right.

Defending Ribadu is what I love to do, and I will always do it. In fact whenever I have the honour to tell my kids about "Heros of Nigeria" who tried to make a difference. Ribadu will be part of that list.

But trying to convince you (BigB1) to appreciate Ribadu, is an excersice in futility. And I am not going to attempt it. It is obvious that the Children of Alams, Tafa Balogun, and all those Ribadu brought down will simply not have kind words for him. I do understand that because I don't know if I will have kind words for him if I am one.

However, what needs to be done needs to be done.

I don't know what you mean by Ribadu undermining the Anti-Corruption War, I have always asked you to produce one Innocent person Ribadu has prosecuted and till date you have not.

Please don't bore me with talks of Selectivity, Ribadu is a professional and it is not his duty to keep inventory of those you consider friends or enemies of President. Those he was able to establish facts againts he prosecuted, those he was not able to he is still investigating. If there is any person you think is corrupt and should be prosecuted, it is your duty as a patriotic Nigerian  to furnish the EFCC and the Police with any dosiers you have on that person or remain silent. Ribadu is not going to prosecute anybody he has not been able to establish cases against merely because there is an unsubstantiated public perception that the person is corrupt. Courts don't do public opinnion or logic, they do facts.

No one in the history of this Nation has fought corruption the way Ribadu did, if Yaradua decides to demobilise EFCC I wish him luck. But then Ribadu will hold his head up high knowing he gave it his best shut.

But like I always tell you, you might just be celebrating too early. It is only 1 month into Yaradua's Government and I wont like to speculate on his policy direction. I am waiting for his official Cabinet list, then we will know if his loyalty is to Nigeria or the hawks.

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@McKren:

This is the problem with you, you tend to dissipate pretty quickly after being smacked around for just few minutes.

I challenge you to come and proof that Ribadu hasn't contributed to the down fall of war against corruption in Nigeria today.

War against corruption, a wonderful implementation that was mismanaged by a misguided chairman.

You tell me, who is to blame?

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http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2007/jun/143.html

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@McKren:

Believe it or not, I do understand your sincere love for Ribadu, infact I share the same feeling. But if we truly crave for a developed Nigeria, we should also be sincere enough to identify inefficiency, inconsistency, failure and ineffectiveness.

Ribadu had the fullest authority to successfully carry out his duties accordingly, but he did not, he allowed people to use him as political police dog. Infact Ribadu has a lot to do with the crisis in Oyo State, Anambra and he is the main reason why none of these governors has been arrested as yet.

If he had done his job accordingly, this new administration wouldn't have been hesitant to arrest these thieves, But Mr Ribadu and OBJ did such a sludgy unprofessional job that it will be irrational for Yar'Adua to follow the same steps.

And Kudos to Yar'Adua for taking his time. It just doesn't make any sense to follow pure failure.

Hence I totally blame Ribadu, not even OBJ.

(but I still love him and I continue to admire his pure determination and I also wish him well)

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See?

One of typical Nigerian ways "we love to speculate on nothing"

What does Abacha's family got to do with this matter?

Ridiculous and unbelievable.

@ DisGuy, please go somewhere

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Posted by McKren:

I'm happy that you do.

There is only one king (God) and he has given us the permission to celebrate. There is nothing anyone could do about it, the celebration continues forever and ever.

Sorry!

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I actually think we r reading d situation wrongly. We r forgetting that yar Adua's style is different & pple under him must adjust accordingly. I suspect the crooks are being given a false sense of security 2 enable them cough out the loot before the strike.

It is foolhardy to call the tiger weak because it's first steps towards the prey are slow.

There shall b a lot of surprises - even the foxy obj is wary of this tiger & not fooled. Watch pple

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I know why you are celebrating

But you might be celebrating just too early.

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I don't know why you guys are still talking about EFCC.

The organization is finished. No one knows the current status of Ribadu with the federal government, no one even knows whether EFCC still exist in Nigeria or not.

I've stated this in the past, a one man show organization usually doesn't last.

Instead of one man show operation, EFCC as an organization should have been structured as a team concept, this way even if Ridabu is condemned of anything, the organization can still move on without any hesitation.

EFCC has reached the dead end, all because of OBJ and RIBADU.

A typical Nigerian way of thinking and operation. No one thinks about the future or perfection. It all about wuruwuru, magomago and pafpaf.

it is a shame, sad and total lack of direction!

Please, let's talk about something constructive. EFCC is a dead state of mind.

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The bottom line is that EFCC was formed to do a job and the job is done, if they scrap the useless organisation it makes no meaning as they have done their job and done it well.

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The vice presidents wife was involved in money laundering too so Yar adua and Ribadu have to trade very very carefully else they destroy the very house in which they are living in.

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Well Lucky should be given preferential treatment because of the impunity with which he robbed Edo state.

There was a day I went to Ring Road in Benin last year and I saw that the Ring Road roundabout and the pavements had been painted, leading all the way to Lucky's Father's house. That was when I remembered it was daddy's birthday again.

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Much as i totally Loathe Lucky Igbinedion for what he has done to my state, why would u advocate double standards in dealing with the issue of corruption among the govs? Lucky most certainly should be dealt with ASAP and same with all others!

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Ribadu is a good movie actor and i wonder why he is yet to find his fit in the nollywood. pete edochie and rmd are all good but ribadu is better because the way he interprets scripts make it look real than the writter can even imagine.

Orji Uzo this, orji uzo that but let us wait till may 29 but orji started waiting for the efcc at least three days to may 29 he removed his cloths of immunity and stood up for the task ahead.

we shld all remember that orji was talking about obj when he was president let ribadu attack him so that he will tell nigerians what they are yet to hear about obj.

yar adua and obj are stepping with caution.

all the ex-govs know things we don't know so random arrests can expose or even explode the country.

they are all guilty and they are all out of immunity so anyone can go down but above all, as a good actor, ribadu cannot try to bite the finger that is feeding him.

from the unset, i know he is not what he claims.

real people like okonjo iweala could not exist alongside obj.

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Nuhu Ribadu was fond of rabble rousing and boasting, the time has come for him to act now, yet we haven't seen much.

I guess he now realises its not as easy as all the noise we were hearing earlier to put a case together against rich and influential people who still have hands in the establishment of the current government.

I still believe it is too early to say too much, but the refunds are a first step if they truly are happening, we do not want to simply lock them up and end up losing all the funds to foreign countries and start another Abacha loot recovery session. If indeed the aim is to first recoup the stolen funds, then prosecute later, we should allow them to continue the work. Yar'Adua has not come out boldly to back Ribadu - till he does that he will not have the kind of authority he had under Obj who gave him near unconditional backing for his work. I do not blame him though, the just ended strike and other issues of setting up his government will probably be more important in his mind than chasing his ex buddies at the guv's forum.

Time will tell, and soon too.

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They should just let all of them roam at large for the next 2 years before tackling their matter one by one.

Except Luck of course. Lucky Igbinedion must be quarantined and dealt with ASAP. Since the state money used in celebrating his father's birthday for complete 8 years cannot be recovered, we could try to convert 80% shares in Igbinedion University and Independent Television. Afterall, it's state funds that have developed those in the past 8 years.

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