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Why Did Obj Force Yar Adua On Us?

i can stop thinking about this. why wld obj do this to nigeria and nigerians?

is he(obj) in any manner regreting his action(imposing yar adua on us) or is he enjoying this show?

is anyone worried about these whole things?

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Nigerians in the diaspora were not legally allowed to vote in the 2007 election. That situation is not of their own doing and it should not , in any way , disqualify them from speaking against the 2007 election !!!  It is like Madam Rebranding wishing to deny foreign-based Nigerians a voice when she stated that "Nigerians abroad are our worst enemies" merely because diasporan Nigerians shun sycophancy (perhaps because they don't view politicians as god) in having no qualms with criticising our useless political leaders.

Nigerians professes to love democracy but many , especially our politicians,  cannot even tolerate criticism without telling others to shut up . Anyone who speaks against Nigeria is suddenly no longer a Nigerian and anyone who did not vote in the last election , even if they had good reasons for not doing so , should not comment about the election. Three cheers for democracy !!!!

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walakolobo, you just asked the most relevant question here.

DID THEY VOTE?

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You can call me whatever you like but my good upbringing does not predispose me to calling others derogatory names - especially folks I know nothing about. Your post , from what I have read , are all vacuously pugnacious in clear demonstration of how you feel duty bound to defend what you write when it is obvious that you know very little about the topics you write about !!!

You are also prone to misinterpreting what people write perhaps because you are in haste to square up to others rather than discuss objectively with them.

Modesty is a stranger to you. Were that not the case you would not write things that expose your lack of knowledge and make it appear as if you are from another planet - i.e clueless about most things !!! For you to state glibly that

Let me educate you further . As OBJ could not "campaign" for Yar Adua at the PDP primaries (since this is against party rules as everyone but yourself knows ) and because it was obvious that dour , dull and mediocre Yar Adua did not stand a remote chance against some of the other charismatic and popular candidate OBJ simply did the only thing that could gain Yar Adua , his annointed imposition, victory . Our former President , using everything at his disposal including the EFCC , simply bulldozed others out of the way completely so that Yar Adua was unopposed. Go and read up about what happened in the past before you are quick to insult folks who have far more knowledge than you do.

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Yes, No matter how many times you try to attack my person, don’t you see that it never makes for you a valid point? It actually shows you yet another Nairaland tout and we all know what to expect from those in the end.

@kobojunkie,

at what point did yar adua join the presidential race?

who and who did yar adua win to become the pdp presidential primaries?

is it possible for u to google any information u need abt 2007 elections and read enough of the things u would love to know.

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Yes, No matter how many times you try to attack my person, don’t you see that it never makes for you a valid point? It actually shows you yet another Nairaland tout and we all know what to expect from those in the end.

You are still offering up conjecture and I suspect you have plenty more of those to offer, so I will ask “ Can we please stop making things up and try to focus on the reality of things as they really are now”? . We had an election, possibly rigged. Obasanjo’s election was considered fair by those who wanted him, but rigged by those who did not want him.

Sure Obasanjo supported and campaigned for Yar adua during the primaries but how does that then mean he FORCED yar adua on a nation?

Was Obasanjo wrong in picking a candidate he would campaign for then? Cause last I checked, there was nothing illegal in that move.

Why did Atiku, Buhari etc Not ATTACK Obasanjo if he was truly FORCING Yar adua on the nation. I mean one would expect ATIKU, the number two man then, to at least be privy to that information. ( PLEASE OFFER UP NO MORE CONSPIRACIES TELLING ME HE COULD NEVER HAD KNOWN).

How many Nigerians actually voted AGAINST YAR ADUA?I remember quite clearly that a large number of his SUPPORTERS were on nairaland here insulting me for question their support of him.

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I am beginning to think you are correct. I don't , for example , know any sensible Nigerian , knowledgeable of the events that led to the eventual election of Yar Adua that is unaware of  OBJ's shameless imposition shenannigans . The PDP primaries , in particular , was a joke considering the large number of far more popular and visible candidates (Egwu,Marwa, Odili, Duke, etc) OBJ bullied out of the way for the reclusive Yar Adua who stood no chance of getting more votes than the least popular candidate let alone the 'big boys' like Duke , Odili, et al.

It is pointless maintaining  discussions with anyone who asserts that Oni was not imposed on Ekiti merely because they were present in the State at the time when in reality the internet now makes people worldwide privvy to information without the need for  physical presence at an event. Unless you are Iwu, Ayoka Adebayo or any other 'insider' you do not know significantly more than other Nigerians because you were in Ekiti during the election. At least not enough to exonerate the PDP of imposing Oni on Ekiti when most Nigerians think otherwise. Using my many associate , including many in Nigeria and Ekiti ,as a sample group I can assert that not a single one of them is in any doubt that the PDP forced Oni on Ekiti through rigging him in !!!!!

Anyone that can write this :

The indisputable PDP rigging in Ido-Osi and the now infamous "I cannot go against my christian conscience" statement from Ekiti INEC REC (Ayoka Adebayo) must have been the "fantasies, conspiracy theories,delusions, conjectures and loosely connected claims" of most Nigerians who spoke in unison against the PDP imposition of Oni on Ekiti.

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i want to once more use imo state as a case study because that is my state. Eng. Charles Ugwu - the owner of rokanna industries was the manufacturers association of nigeria(man) president during the third term agenda and that same organisation was the first to endorse third term. obj did all he could to compensate Eng. Ugwu with pdp ticket for gov in imo but Ararume resisted and was backed by a court order which disqualified ugwu hence obj was in imo state to tell the people of the state that since ugwu is not the candidate for pdp, imo state pdp would no longer context for gov in the state hence ppa won. in his decission to compensate ugwu, obj made ugwu the minister of commerce and industries under yar adua.

on the other hand, the then state gov Chief achike udenwa was the first gov to endorse third term hence he never faced efcc and was later used to replace Eng Charles Ugwu as the minister for commerce and industries till date.

the doubting thomases must take a ride to the state history and tell us how these two men are the best for the position or the slot of imo state ministerial position.

the pdp senators are o it again. nigeria is indirectly running a one party system and getting a pdp ticket is 90% close to the position. atiku we all saw was battled by all the possible forces of aso rock including the mighty dog (ribadu) who never slept till the last date. we saw how obj personally dethroned atiku from the post of vp but for personal resistance he remained.

the truth of the matter is that the list is too long that iyabo obasanjo's opponent in the election was arrested by ribadu even when he never held public post just to make sure iyabo went thru.

kobojunkie will be everywhere but ends up with no point.

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Did any of you goons vote in the election? Anyone who doesnt vote or pay tax to Nigeria have no meaningful thing to say as per what goes on in the country Nigeria, so, you all shove your comments up your butt holes.

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Interesting!!! Thanks for pointing out that mistake.

About the primaries, sure. Obasanjo supported and campaigned for the man he wanted but I fail to see how that translates to him, Obasanjo, FORCING yar adua on the NATION.

But you brought it up!!

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Do you understand that when I used the word "sham" I was refering to the PDP primaries that could not have featured Buhari and Atiku and not the actual General election that featured them?

This statement for example arises from your confusing the PDP primaries with the actual general elections:

"Read the profile of the men who ran for office, and check your “theories” again.  Knowing what you know of Atiku, Buhari, "

Perhaps other forumers knowledgeable of the sham PDP primaries that produced Yar Adua can enlighten us some more as I certainly don't see the need of discussing the PDP's last Presidential Primaries (involving only members of the PDP )when it may be confused with the actual Presidential elections featuring candidates from all the registered Political Parties in Nigeria.

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Shey you see these people? 2011 has not come and they've already surrendered. Then they will say it is Yar'Adua that imposed Jonathan on us.

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It most certainly is and the evidence is obvious and plentiful. We all tend to forget that OBJ began forcing Yar Adua on Nigeria when he dictatorially used his supreme executive power to ensure that all PDP candidates were intimidated into stepping down for Yar Adua !!!! The whole world witnessed the sham PDP primaries that produced Yar Adua. By using his executive power ,mainly through the partisan control of the EFCC, to frustrate the democratic emergence of a PDP candidate (like how Kufour did the opposite to world acclaim in Ghana) OBJ forced Yar Adua on Nigeria and Nigerians !!!!

No conjecture at all. If folks actually understand that OBJ forced Yar Adua on Nigeria with an undemocratic PDP primaries , through which he persuaded a reluctant and disinterested Yar Adua to run while he simultaneously browbeat other candidate to leave the stage for his annointed , then it is obvious that there is very little the opposition can do !!!

Once again , think of issues as beginning from the disgraceful and undemocratic PDP primaries and it will be obvious that Tinubu, Fashola,  et al could do little about the perverted processes and occurences within an opposition party.

The PDP is currently speaking of an automatic 2011 ticket for a highly undeserving Yar Adua. If they succeed what can Tinubu and others do against such an intrinsically anti-democratic action? If Yar Adua wins in 2011 will the PDP , through its use of undemocratic party politics that its compromised members subscribe to , not have succeeded in 'forcing' Yar Adua on Nigeria while simultaneously neutering Tinubu and all other voices of dissent ? Is it not obvious that lack of Party democracy is a way the PDP uses to enforce its candidates on Nigerians everywhere? The PDP owes it to Nigeria and Nigerians to ensure its own internal democracy like Kufour did in Ghana. If they do not do it because Party members are all comfortable with the flawed but profitable arrangement what can non-PDP Nigerians (to include Tinubu, et al) do ?

Not that simple. Several decades of misrule has undeniably bastardized the attitude, ethics and outlook of the average Nigerian. The rise of an elite and lootocratic system has evolved to now be a part of our national life and thinking. Those who are within the process , mainly all (s)elected leaders , are unlikely to move against their own looting agenda. We see a national assembly unable to pass a pending FOI bill . Why ? We see a national assembly disgracefully endorsing the worst electoral umpire in Nigerian , and perhaps world history. Why?

Conversely , and exemplary of a classic "catch 22" scenario, most Nigerians outside the process are too hungry ,oppressed and deprived to develop into the type of political 'animal' that topple dictatorial regimes.  Most have been cowered into apathy over time by witnessing  abusive use of the Armed forces, electoral commision and Judiciary by the executive arm of Governance to supress democracy and dissent. Those who try to fight are ruthlessly checkmated. The entire world saw Yar Adua and the PDP 'force' Oni on Ekiti recently. Did the people of Ekiti (and thus Nigeria) not put up a fight ? Same way it is patently wrong to say that Oni was not forced on Ekiti (and thus Nigeria) by Yar Adua is how it is wrong to conclude that OBJ did not force Yar Adua on Nigerians or that he did it without a fight from Nigerians and opposition politicians. The picture may be a little hazy , and thus open to various interpretations , but it is still obvious that OBJ forced Yar Adua on Nigerians and it is also obvious that there was little most Nigerians could do about it.

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Abuse of supreme executive power is to be expected? But is it surely the case here? What evidence do we have?

Negative!! You are still offering up conjecture and loosely connected claims as evidence here. One thing for sure is we have two sides to this.

Obasanjo was confronted with resistance from the other side all through his time in office. Think about this for a bit. If he did FORCE yar adua on the nation, why was there no BACKLASH from the other side, a side that had actively pushed back at him from his very first day in office? Why did the likes of Tinubu, Fashola and the other AC members not SPEAK OUT, if that was really the case?? Are you saying now they were all in it together??

Why did Atiku not know of this? Why didn't Atiku expose him, if this were really the case? Why has he remained silent about it, if this was truly the case? I mean it is easy to make stuff up in that country and we seem to do that with the greatest ease. But never really stop to wonder if the evidence actually lines up with the stories we tell ourselves of why Nigeria is the way it is today. How can all these people stand up against him getting a third term, only to sit back while he FORCED yar adua, a weakling with next to no record of success of any kind, on the country ? How?

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Technically, and to a neutral or non-Nigerian individual inspecting the facts alone ,  you have a valid point. In reality our democracy is that in name alone . What we actually have is Presidential dictatorship typified by excessive concentration of power in the number one citizen minus the checks-and-balance safegaurds common throughout the best democratic examples worldwide. Resultant abuse of supreme executive power is then to be expected . A very large percentage of our leaders are illegitimate and undeserving of their positions. They gained their leadership position by pledging to defend the looting status quo. They are ultimately only concerned about their own interest. 9 out of 10 times they will ignore doing what is right in favour of doing what will preserve the status quo. This is why OBJ found it easy to impose Yar Adua on Nigerians.

Blaming ordinary Nigerians of cowardice and docility , for not resisting OBJ's imposition , is seeing half the picture. When the average dweller of Nigeria (unlike the fairly fulfilled , unintimidated and therefore naturally pugnacious diasporan ) has been forced to become a cowering and dehumanised animal , greatful for morsels of bread from 'Oga's' table,  it is illogical to expect him to be a revolutionary firebrand !!!!

If diasporan Nigerians can examine the inhuman living conditions home based Nigerians are subjected to then it will be obvious that our brethrens in Nigeria are more likely to plead with their oppressors for 'food' and a pot to p.iss in rather than rise up against them.

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Insulting my person does not help make your point, if that is what you think here. Fact remains NOT A SINGLE person has shown with solid evidence that the man, obj actually FOrced yar adua on us. reasons stated by @dnex seem to make more sense than this conspiracy theory people seem too willing to believe, does.

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To that list of presidential candidates who were asked to step aside you can also add Donald Duke. The masses clearly have no say in the selection process.

In truth, the decision was also forced on OBJ. That is not to defend him but it is unrealistic to believe that he didn't answer to anybody especially when you remember his rise from prisoner to president.

For me, the question is, who put OBJ up to this task? Remember  his dubious mathematics in Shagari v Awolowo?

The real puzzle for me is why the southern leaders continue to be in a party (PDP) that believes staunchly in the federal character principle which is detrimental to our development.

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and these are the oduduwa calibre that will merge will benin rep right?

once again we have been sold by oduduwa'son

that idots had much with the whitehouse behind him to change nigeria for good, but he messed up

he was only thinkin that gettin rid of 419 cooked whiteman debt will be accreditted to him, then he was wrong

he is just anothe oduduwa slowpoke that sold the south for #1.31kobo with no regret

was it suprised when he said, he doesnt read newspaper hahhahhahha

menhhhh that man, that man, nawooo

as for yaramumu, death for where, i ve learnt the man is always sick as far back before he became president, so yall just allow that sickness, cuz it aint happenin

however ever bin laden is better than him

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I have been reading entries on this board for a while. Chidichris stands out as one of the best contributors on the political board.

I think Chidichris and some other intelligent contributors have said all there is to answer the questions raised by the OP. Simple truth remains that OBJ forced this guy Yaradua on us. The possible reasons for his choice has been enumerated somewhere up there in some of the entries. Nothing much to add.

However, what's baffling is the inability of Yaradua himself to make an impact. At least he's an eductaed person. He should know when to call it quit and take charge. Maybe he's doing that, but I can't see it. Or is it me? I mean, one can at the least make ''something happen'' even when he/she  had been ''imposed'' on people. Our President's case is really a sorry one. Sometimes I wonder who really takes decisions at the top and the caliber of people who advice our president.

A recent case in point (to buttress the fact that our Presido lacks what it takes to rule this country, or is dancing to the tune played by some vested interests) is the siting of the School of Petroleum Studies in Kaduna. Touted as the biggest Petroleum School in Subsaharan Africa when completed, it's amazing that with the barrage of attacks in the Niger Delta, such a schoool will be sited in the North - far away from the area where the funds for building the school is ''mined''.

I think OBJ has really done us in this time.

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Are irregularities = Rigging ?

If there are not enough voting materials, that's an irregularity, if voting starts 8 am instead of 10 am, that's an irregularity, party agents are not enough to go round all the polling stations is an irregularity, blue ink is used to register results instead of black is an irregularity.

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@informat09,

i think that is another mistake and a bigger one for that matter. before u go to a barbing salon and say give me the same cut as u gave mr. John, u must make sure u have the same type of skull with mr. John.

let us look at the type of system in which we are living in. what is happening in niger delta today is a kind of protest. we have to look at the people of niger delta, how far have they gone in achieving their aims and what have they lost?

nigeria is such a country where the killing of a whole community enjoys nothing but a page in our local newspaper.

it is easy to say we are cowards, yes we are but i assure u living cowards are better than dead heros. we must pray that God will intervene in our situation. we must agree that the number of lives lost so far in niger delta is worth a president facing trial in hague if it is in other countries but what do we have here?

as for election in nigeria, it is only dnex and kobojunkie that are yet to accept the realities on ground. yar adua on his own accepted the height of irregularities that sourrounded his own election. the electorial constitution amendments in the house have exposed pdp and her evil plans that have made inec a child of the pdp instead of an independent institution.

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really nigerians, we have to emulate whats happening in iran and take to the streets and protest whats happening in this country, frankly nothin is happening in this country right now.

we are at the mercy of dumb and selfish leaders who don't give a damn about us, we need to start a mass movement thatwill usher in credible elections and a true democratic movement in this country

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I guess what we need as a people now is the culture of protest. It is the lack of this that made IBB to succeed in annulling the June 12 elections, it is also the lack of this culture that is making our leaders to do all sorts of negative things and getting away with them!!

Long ago (can't remember the date now), the price of bread went up in Morocco and the people took to the streets protesting but were it to happen in Nigeria, we would simply start drinking gari as an alternative, we need to know that there is enormous power in protesting and we should harness this power to our advantage and free ourselves from our slave masters leaders.

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Okay, what I am saying is that if Atiku was a politician and strategist worthy of being the president of Nigeria, he would have found a way to foil OBJ's third term and yet remain the candidate for PDP being that we all knew it was the PDP candidate that would win.

The fact, that he could not get himself around that puzzle means that as president, he would have found himself in several puzzles that would have overwhelmed him.

I think I will now go ahead to answer the question of why OBJ forced Yar'Adua on us. And it is because knows we're too silly to know that we have the power not to let him.

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It is obvious that we are seeing this from different perspectives, what I am saying is that OBJ made it difficult for Atiku to prepare very well and also campaign for the elections, this is the reality of what happened and that doesn't necessarily make me an Atiku person. It is also clear that all machinery of the Federal Government were mobilised in ensuring that Yar Adua won the election.

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My fellow Nigerian, if PDP, through their internal machinations within their party, bring out Yar'Adua as their candidate, how does that affect Muhammadu Buhari and his ANPP?

In Lagos, we had the deputy governor who was frustrated out of the AC to Labour Party as Fashola was picked over him as candidate by those in the Action Congress for reasons best known to them. How does that affect Obanikoro and PDP losing in Lagos. The fact that Femi Pedro was not the candidate for AC, does that mean that AC rigged the elections to defeat PDP? Or they chose the candidate whom they thought will beat any political opponent in the race.

Why should a party front a candidate whose only campaign point is that he was going to ensure that Nigeria won the 2010 world cup?

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@dnex,

what is ur overall submission on 2007 election?

are u by any means saying yar adua made the highest efforts compared to other contenders?

who and who were in the presidential race in pdp? who wa the leading candidate and what happened?

at what point did yar adua surfaced in the presidential race?

what was the case in anambra between chris uba and chris ngige? how did the votes of the ppl in anambra influenced their choice of governor? why did obj announce the withdrawal of pdp gubernitorial candidacy in imo state in the 2007 election?

the big problem with ppl like kobojunkie is that they feel they must contribute in every thread. some of us her make more sense when we are silent than while talking. let us talk with facts and figures. reffer us to events that happened within the period in question as all of us witnessed the madness.

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why would someone waste his money and time when u already know the outcome!!

even the outside world know the election will be rigged

lets stop foolin around

if we want proper election, lets start from Iwu, that man need to go

however in a situation u had Iwu sayin nobody born by woman can touch him, then u wonder why things are so messed up

nevertheless to say that we cannot change situation is an understatement

if the rig it then, we will put on massive protect worse than iran

i think we have been sittin on the fence

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I THINK NIGERIA NEED SOMEONE LIKE FELA ANIKULAPO KUTI TO TELL US WHO IS OBJ

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A politician who is not sure if he's going to take part in a political process has already failed himself. Why should we help him to go there and fail us?

I wish another dimension can be created for all those of you who wanted Atiku to go see what it'd be like. Did you even vote Atiku at all? I nor believe say liver go gree you.

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How would Atiku have prepared effectively for the elections even when no one, including himself, was not sure he would be able to contest until a couple of days to the elections.?

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I didn't vote in 2007, so I can complain very little. But the truth is, our votes do count but almost nobody votes.

If we shout from here to Kilimanjaro that PDP rigged the elections, then I will ask those making these claims to honestly tell me if they really believed that Buhari or Atiku put in enough effort to win the 2007 elections. Buhari only campaigned in the North, Atiku had himself in boiling water. These men did not seriously make POLITICAL plans to win the elections. And please, nobody should even mention Utomi, Okotie, Gani, Ojukwu and Mrs Obasanjo cos they only came to get participatory certificates.

Go and buy yourself a March or April newspaper and see the level of campaign put in by all the contestants. Go and get the records from TV stations and see who bought the most AD airtime by far.

We claimed they rigged the elections, but did the PDP also rig the elections to put Fashola or Ohakim in their offices? Someone said there was electoral violence, snatching of ballot boxes and all that fart. Do you know how many ballot boxes are in place for the presidential elections? The amount of electoral violence and snatchings that will sway the votes will sum up to an all out civil war. And if we claim that they can manipulate the results from INEC headquarters, then why should OBJ, Yar'Adua and the PDP bother with such rubbish as snatching ballot boxes?

Yar'Adua won the elections fair and square because we let him, and we let him by not voting.

2011, let's all go out and vote for a serious and proper candidate. If these other regional political parties are still unserious, then we should join the PDP and turn things around internally. That is why I laugh at Atiku. He is a government worker and not a politician. Why didn't he fight the 3rd term agenda without getting himself soiled with nowhere to hide in the PDP? He knew the only party under which he would have won the elections was the PDP and yet he left to the AC. The man is dull.

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hmmm oduduwa in love with celebrating oles-criminals

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OBJ is the most despicable human being on earth!

Ya'R'Dunce has been saddled with a baggage he cant carry. . . We are seeing the consequences and will continue to unless something is done fast!

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obasanjo knew that bringing in yaradua would be to his advantage, he knew yaradua would be a lame duck president and at the end of the day, everyone would compare both presidents nd rate Obasanjo's regime as the best ever.

Yaradua lacks vision and insight, he is a lame duck president and the sooner we admit this and start planning for his successful exit after just one term , the better for us nigerians.

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ahah and obj na oduduwa u want becomerich abi?

una no de serious

obj na nando thief and a slowpoke

like the yeye man appear in bbc hard talk, if like he said there is no case for corruption then people like rabiadu should be headin for that seat

let them keep foolin themselves, u rather stand for good or bad with all that stolen oil money, u still aint poo

for those that aggressively argue from the Bottom, this is aint any hobby, and i think u should aggressively acknowledge that mister

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The reasons obj forced yaradua upon us is pretty obvious now isn't it?

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In just a few sentences, you have brilliantly summarised everything that happened in 2007 elections. Some have argued and asked what AC and other parties were looking when OBJ chose Yar Adua for PDP forgetting that it doesnt matter whoever any party chooses as its candidate since they were going to compete in the same race. Choosing a dull, lack-lustre and sick candidate would only serve to brighten the chances of other parties were it be in a situation where the votes of the people count. Who would have chosen to vote for Yar Adua where you had other candidates like Pat Utomi, Atiku and Buhari if the playing field had been even.

I remember Saharareporters.com had the election results in their website even before the real elections were conducted and it was these same results that were announced.

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If you pay attention to kobo's posts, you will realize that he or she has nothing to contribute. He or she simply likes to talk and tends to mostly talk in circle; therefore, anything that will keep him or her busy talking is the greatest.

When folks like this individual doesn't talk, they tend to get very sick.

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i had earlier wanted to say something but being the poster, i decided to wait and hearing this from u makes more sense.

we were all living witnesses to the circustances that brought yar adua on baord. we saw how powerful obj was in using all the available tools to weigh down other candidates during the election.

today, we can hear el rufai regret his contributions in making yar adua the president and we also hear ribadu say how yar adua's name from the list of corrupt govs and how he (yar adua) forced him(ribadu) into exile.

we all saw hopw atiku struggled to even context and how ribadu through his efcc gazzetted his criminal cases within days to disqualify atiku. we all saw how marwa was forced to drop his presidential ambition or face efcc.

peter odili was the leading presidential candidate until the last minute when he was asked to withdraw or face efcc.

i still would want to hear kobojunkie make a point and not writing from the first to the last page. can anyone living in nigeria stand up against a well known fact that obj imposed yar adua on all nigerians through the worst selection(election) in the history of man.

all over the world, leaders are responsible for the actions of ppl under them but kobojunkie will always want the helpless citizens to be responsible for the actions of their leaders.

among all the nigerian leaders, past and present, the only person kobojunkie has considered worthy of our blames is orji uzor kalu and that sounds funny.

i am from imo state and i would want to remind you that the first gov to endorse third term agenda was my gov and today, he is a minister. the then president of manufacturers association of nigeria, Eng. Charles Ugwu endorsed 3rd and was to be rewarded with the gubernitorial ticket of the state under pdp before senator ararume went to court to win the ticket and obj instead of allowing ararume he went to imo state to declare that pdp is no longer interested and will not feature anyother canadidate outside Eng. Ugwu and that today gave ohakim the edge of being the gov under ppa while Eng. ugwu was made minister. find our this story from any source.

finally, obj as we talk now is the only person qualified to be the chairman pdp board of trustees as a result of his criminal amendments to the pdp constitution so what is the news and what facts and figures do you have kobojunkie?.

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Don’t get me wrong here. I am not saying it is not possible that we all reject mediocrity, but I am sure you would agree that we Do not seem to want to reject it as a whole. We instead sell ourselves such excuses as this one this thread is based on so we can continue with the status quo another day. If and when we agree to discard these old excuses for new ones fine, I have no qualms with that but as long as we have and offer up the same old ridiculous excuses, the longer we continue were we have been for the past almost 50 years.

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@ Kobojunkie

That we already accept mediocrity does not mean that we cannot collectively reject it and say NO! henceforth.

Its a thinking we need to imbibe (hope i got that english) and hopefully we would gradually lift this country from its brand of "Great Depression".

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ABI !! Atiku had every reason to expose OBJ if it was truly that Yar adua was INSTALLED by the hands of OBJ. Buhari had every reason to do same. The AC did not even attack OBJ for such a move, if it really happened that way. Why would all parties KEEP silent if that was really what was happening?

But we already accept mediocrity . . . have accepted it from the very beginning. How can you not see that this is more cowardice than anything else?? Lol

hhhmmmm

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I hope that 20yrs from now Nigerians living in Nigeria would be able to look back and accept total responsibility for what happened in the 2007 elections, we accepted Yar'adua, OBJ didn't force him on us. The youth wanted a change and so when OBJ came up with his very distasteful 3rd term agenda(he is capable of everything, the good, bad and downright ugly!), it was rejected in it's entirety. However same cannot be said for the Presidential elections, this may stem from the fact that the opposition party did not present any credible candidate. Was it Atiku who was fighting OBJ cos EFCC was hounding him(he had dreams of exposing OBJ's corrupt practices), or Buhari who didn't come across like he had good intentions for this country?.

Nigerians have learned over time to always save their skins first (you may call it cowardice, i call it wisdom), cos even after the blood of the innocents have flooded the land, it reverts back to business as usual.That said, we shouldn't let that immobilise us, so much so, that we are accepting of mediocrity.

The mindset of the average Nigerian on the street needs to be changed, we need to demand better of ourselves including those voted to serve.

Until we do that, the leadership and government of this country would continue to be a reflection of it's citizenry, Every man for himself!

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Kobokobo. I see that its not just me. U seem to feel an irepressible need to keep attacking any post with "oh, Nigerians blame others for their troubles". U ask baseless, incoherent questions, "what if, why this, why that" yet bring nothing to the discuss. Without a doubt, u lack sense.

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There can never be a change in nigeria.

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I am not interested in discussing how we can salvage anything. I am more interested in us accepting responsibility for what has happened thus far. I mean it seems we are ever too willing to offer up excuses for why we are not to blame for what has happened so far. Blaming OBJ for Yar adua when Nigerians elected and re-elected Obj and even denied him a third term. Not sure how suddenly, Obj (one man) claimed power over all and decided of his own who would be the next president without any input from the people. It does not compute.

Sure he may have campaigned for the man and even helped gather support from the base but to singlehandedly decide who would win without the AC or another other ground crying foul till the end or coming out by now to reveal that it was all OBJ and no one else with substantial evidence of this. This is just too convenient an excuse to use. I remember discussing with ordinary Nigerians, here on Nairaland, right after the election and the answers that came from folks helped me understand well that this was not really forced on the people.  I even cut communication with some old acquaintances back in 2007 because I just could not figure out why they would believe this man was capable of running a country like Nigeria. People actually voted to see him become president. Now we seem quick to pretend no votes were cast for him and that it was all OBJ? come on!!

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go  buy Fela music,

go buy Bob Marley music.

The answer to your questions are already available inside.

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I understood what you typed and I responded appropriately. Unless there was some typo that I may have missed again. It is easy to claim that WE THINK he intentionally picked a sick man. My question to you and all others who think that way is this or should I say are . . . .

a) This sick man had been sick a long time, if Nigerians could stand up to protest a third term for OBJ why did we not stand up to protest against this assumed pick of his? Where were you and I when he was busy picking and campaigning for this sick man?

b) What proof do you have to show that your assumption that he intentionally picked this man cause of his sickness is even a valid one?

c) If we so believe that a single man can engineer this all on his own, with the AC and other parties watching and doing absolutely nothing, even when we Nigerians claimed and clung to our powerless view of self, what stops us from producing similar excuse when the next president comes into the picture? What stops us from claiming the same reasons we have convinced ourselves were that for OBJ’s installation of Yar adua, the next time around?

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What do you think we can do to change the Nigerian situation when elections come,our votes doesn't count,no real avenues to pour our grievances against whats going on (at least where those concerned can nlisten and make redress)infact it's like yaradua is not interested in the president explains or a state of the nation affairs adresss where he can tell us about his lack of progress or otherwise.

is there any way we can salvage the situation aside from talking here,pls.let us know

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nigerians are nothing but a big slap to the entire african nation,we educated we are wise but for nothing,till date we have not agree that nigeria is dead so that we can bring it alive.our evil leaders choose a leader for us instead of we to choose.oh mama africa save nigeria for us from the murdering do or die party pdp.even obj said it buhari is the only true leader left for us,why do you think obama invite only him and mandela to us?but those northerns vampires emirs like ado bayero,ibb,obj can never allow nigeria to be,the only solution is to bombard them with bomb if not 50yrs coming naija will remain like this.

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