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Stupidness, thats why.

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By mere Divine Providence the South South is the current President with an opportunity for a new term.Going foward what would get them there is common sense and polical savy which they appear lacking presently .This is definitely not the time for them to abuse other zones or remind them that they are suviving on their oil.This would be very childish in the present circumstaces.They have been used against their South East Cousins by the same Hausa Fulani group eg abandoned properties in Rivers after the Civil war which the yorubas were smart enough to avoid.

Unfotunately today things are a bit different and the SS must reach out and negotiate with other zones and not abuse them,

The south West does not have much oil but if this country breaks up they will be better than every other zone.The SS since they are not homogenous will be in a perilous situation.

The point being made is that they shoul reach out to other zones and negotiate with them.There are no sentiments where they fail to use available opportunities others can use same.

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I have gone tru this thread since this question was asked and i did n,t find even one single answer to this question, from the various cyber warriors, all i see is just, ranting, frothing from the mouth, insulting and speaking of Big Big grammar.

It is a complete wonder that none of these cyber ninjas lifted  even a finger to hit the key board, when a thread as  emotionally draining as this  http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-268320.0.html was posted.

it is quite clear where their love of igboland lies, not in it,s people, not in it,s well being, but, in what they can get out of  igboland, that,s why you find very old men arguing whether igboland has oil or not, whether bauchi is in igboland and so forth

it is clear that most of them don,t want peace even in their villages they will still find betrayers and backstabbers. i will refrain from adding anything else let this just sink in, they know themselves.

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Guess the map is about 100 years old. The reference to cocoa is not income generating as it used to be in the 60s and 70s. Not only cocoa, the whole agricultural sector in Nigeria has gone down the drain.

I wonder why they are still using this map to teach pupils in social studies. I hope i am wrong about the current usage of a map such as this.

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You have a serious issue of comprehension. I would even deny having any form of exchange with you on the Internet. It is either you love flaunting your profound stupidity in the public or you are abysmally ignorant. Anyways, just suit yourself as you wallow in ultra delusion.

Again, do you know the reasons the masters of your forebears, in this case, Yoruba, Fulani, Kanuri and Hausa are hell bent in keeping Igbo land in the colonial contraption called Nigeria? I hope you will not fall into the vicious circle of political dementia your forebears were inflicted.

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Delta 30%

Akwa Ibom 22%

Bayelsa 17%

Rivers 17%

Ondo 7%

Imo 2.5%

Cross River 2.3%

Abia 1.4%

Edo 0.8%

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How could you expect sanity to reign when a lunatic backwater pig such as you is roaming freely? If the air is pricey, I would suggest that the price of the volume a punk such as you consumes be tripled so that a painful descent to your grave would be a thing of art form.

Please for umpteenth time I suggest you lift your lazy and dilapidated body and get it immersed in the history of the jungle called Nigeria and specifically to the crude oil exploration by Shell D’arcy in Nigeria.

Before crude oil was struck in Mid West, the crude oil that was discovered in Eastern Nigeria had spurred the so-called leaders of the jungle called Nigeria to perpetrate war against the oil-rich region. I shell not volunteer to educate you because you have displayed irreparable idiocy on this thread. I read with muted laughter when you raised Ojukwu’s sarcastic reference of “Niger Delta” to a gospel tune.

Has it cross your psychotic brain as why the Ndigbo continue to agitate for independent nation? I do believe, if I may borrow your quote, that the “rancid boil in the anus of the Igbo nation” is better than you in more ways than one. At least, it can engender uneasiness to the host. Baring the offshore crude oil, Igbo Land had more crude oil than Itsekiri, Urhobo and Ijo of west combined.

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Please tell us how the East is leaching? What states make up the East?

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Firstly, it is good to see that some civility has returned to proceedings, I hope we can keep it that way.

The topic is biased. The truth of the matter is that West & East also 'leech'. Every zone has to show their contribution to the country, in order for us to move forward.

Every nationality has the right to self determination and must be allowed to grow without being colonised by their neighbours. I don't think that is tribalistic statement.

If we accept this principle of self determination and resource control, then the leeching problem will go away.

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That has nothing to do with what we are talking about so just like Asha said," stop beating around the bush.

Achuzia is from Ika in Igbo land and he is not having troubles with his identity so lay off and go back to the topic.

Your utter dislike of Igbos is quite clear so u might as well admit it.

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@sapele guy

If you have one or two things against igbo better admit it than beating around the bush.

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Udueze -

What I have consistently stated is that every ethnic nationality has a right to self determination.

For example if :

ishan say they are not benin - fine.

isoko say they are not urhobo - fine.

ika say they are not igbo - fine.

All should be equal regardless of population or the aberration called federal character. If in your eyes that makes me a tribalist, then fine.

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Interesting revelatn! 10x.[color=#990000][/color]

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Sapele FOOL,

The issue does not only concern Igbo leaders. It concerns all leaders of former Eastern Nigeria so your poor attempt to use this justify your hatred towards Igbos is not working. You are a big fool.

Ojukwu is DEAD WRONG but that has nothing to do with Igbos since we didn't send him to collect pension. That is a silly move on his own part but I understand that if the war is over then all Biafran soldiers, Ibibio, Ijaw, Igbo, Efik, Ogoni should receive their pension if Nigeria truly believes that the war is over. Ojukwu and the major players should be fighting to get the regular Biafra soldiers compensated 1st.

The Philip Obong Effiong also never received any pension.

You are not showing us the report coz you have any love for Igbos.

Before you call anyone tribalist. Look at your bigoted self 1st.

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Reason for this is that Biafra is not a child of Igbo origin. It is a child of the marriage among the five major ethnic groups in the Eastern region and the day that she was born, she was a child of circumstance. Circumstances arising out of Gowon’s attempt to dismember the Eastern region by creating Rivers and South Eastern states. Immediately after that pronouncement, the five ethnic groups making up the Eastern region brought Biafra to being. That day, Biafra became the operational word of the Eastern Army.”

“The situation going on in the Niger Delta was a continuation and fallout of Nigeria not agreeing to see realities and realise that what brought about the war in the first place was the issue of Niger Delta which made Boro to leave the university and decide to oppose Nigeria single-handedly on his own, before the pogrom that nearly finished all the Igbo officers and civilians in the North and the West.

At the time, as far as the North was concerned, there is nothing like you are an Ijaw man, or that you are a Calabar man, or that you are an Ibibio man or that you are Efik or whatever you like. As far as they were concerned, anybody from the Eastern region is an Igbo man. So, what happened then, when they say it’s an Igbo fight, they weren’t articulating Igbo as a tribe. No, they were grouping the whole of the Eastern region comprising different ethnic groups as one major ethnic group.”

They thought that by reducing the size of the land mass and the population of the Igbo ethnic group, that they will contain the situation. It is now that it is dawning on them that it isn’t really the Igbo ethnic group that is the problem, that it is the minorities within the Eastern region who felt that they are being marginalised because before the oil came, we had no trouble in the Eastern region.”

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You and your ilk(dede1, bialegend, udezue) are rancid boils on the anus of the igbo nation.

Your heroes collude with oil multinationals, start coups and wars, sacrifice 1 million people, run away to ivory coast come back to collect fat pensions whilst the biafra veterans wallow in abject poverty. Put your own house in order first.

Tribalists like you were conspicuously absent from the thread below because it deals with harsh truths.

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-268320.0.html

Achuzia gets to the heart of the matter. Please read.

http://odili.net/news/source/2008/feb/4/503.html

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so what have they done for igbo people?

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First of, the ones who bore you are the real goats

Topic:

Soludo

Okonjo Iweala

Oby Ezekwesili

Dora Akunyili

Ernest Ndukwe (GSM), ETC

Now mention other ministers/federal officials that match these people in terms of good governance and competence.; lets see how many you will get from each tribe.

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will you shut uppppppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!

who is deceiving you goats?

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-Igbos do not need Ijaw/Urhabo/Ogoni, etc oil to survive

-Ijaws are not the only occupants of Niger Delta (ND)

-Apart from Imo and Abia in the ND, there are indigenous Igbo communities in Rivers and Delta, other states in the Niger Delta

-Sapele, representing the Urhobos, are an inconsequential group in Delta. Th Ijaws ensured this to be so

-Igbos have enough human and material resource (INCLUDING OIL AND GAS) to keep them going should Nigeria take the natural course of disintegration.

-Igbos are the least affected by poverty in Nigeria, despite all that other Nigerians have done to keep them out of rulership

-Igbo elements have contributed more than anyone else in the development of Nigeria

-Igbo ministers and officials have proven to be more useful than their compatriots from other zones in marshalling the economic development of Nigeria

-Igbos are far less in number among those who have STOLEN Nigeria's commonwealth, thereby rendering the country economically prostrate.

THESE ARE IRREFUTABLE POINTS

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You are a bloody fool, I suppose Ojukwu who also recognises the "erroneous Niger Delta" and has referenced it severally is also an intellectual midget?

To speak of the dead in the manner that you have shows me, there are no depths you will not crawl to in your tribalistic fervour. I shall leave you to wallow in the cesspit of tribalism that is your perpetual home.

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You are simply a disgrace to your people. I have known the people of Urhobo, Itsekiri and even Ijo west of Benue-Niger River, the worst of them has shown a better intellect than your public display of latent stupidity. The last time I check, the MID-WESTERN region of Nigeria was inhabited by many ethnic groups including the Ndigbo. Does it ring a bell in your deaf ears that a SON OF IGBOLAND was the first premier of Mid West?

It is act of an unpardonable stupidity that a crop of the delta formed by Escravos, Nue and Forcados Rivers could not tell his or her northern Nigerian masters that the identity of “Niger Delta” is a political smoke screen and tool of marginalization. I thought there was a place called "Lokoja confluence". Please do not include me in your so-called “Niger delta” idiosyncrasy. Give a dog a wrong name and destroy it. Please keep up with the saga of your delusion.

Adaka Boro was an intellectual midget who did not even understand that there is absolutely nothing such as “Niger delta”. What has been erroneously branded as “Niger Delta” is actually a delta formed by Benue, Niger, Imo, Anambra, Urasi and Utamiri Rivers.

The last thing to cross my mind is to wake you up from your seemly ignorant slumber.

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U must be full of your hate that u forget that among the major southern groups Igbos have always supported your quest for resource control. What more do u want them to do? Carry guns and kidnap? Are u silly or what? Many Igbos are apprehensive when it comes to really getting involved with dummies like u coz the next minute you'll accuse them of annexing your tiny Bottom swamp that u call land. The Igbos can never please poisoned minds like you hence they are not obligated to fire a shot.

Adaka Boro did not secede with the Eastern region hence Igbos, Ibibios, Ogoni, Itsekiri, were not a part of his plan. Are u too dumb to know that he was not concerned about any region but his own Ijaw enclave so what makes u think ppl could understand him? Now Biafra came about after Easterners fell victim to Northern terror. Everyone was involved including Ijaw people. If Adaka Boro did it 1st and the Eastern region later followed suit with an actual nation that lasted for 3 yrs vs Boro's that lasted for like less than "WHAT" then that should tell you that there was more success and hope that we all would have been independent . You couldn't do it alone bro and still can't so take that hatred somewhere.

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You are a half wit, your delusion is beyond madness. Please tell us how Mid West belonged to ndigbo. Northern Cameroon didn't want to be with you, Adaka Boro and Niger Delta didn't want to be with you, Mid West didn't want to be with you. Can you see a pattern emerging here? Nobody wants to be colonised by you or your forefathers.

If igbo land has enough resources why are they willing to share it 'with the useless fold called Nigeria' and not campaign for resource control to benefit igbo land. Could it be that your elders have actually come to accept one Nigeria whilst you continue to preach the gospel of hate and tribalism.

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It is unfortunate that the stupidity which has built a hut in you does not even grant you a moment of intellect to deduce that countries are geopolitical entities. From the shape of things, I am convinced that you are behaving like a dog that had a meal of poisoned meat. The poison has rendered the dog demented. With your shaky scholastic pedigree, you still could not fathom that Nigeria has more deltas than the so-called “Niger Delta”.

Please be informed that Ndigbo have never aspired to annex any land that does not belong to them. Igbo land had enough natural resources to sustain its inhabitants and make them competitive in the world affairs. Have you asked your sorry Bottom why the rest of Nigerians were hell bent in bring Biafra into the useless fold called Nigeria?  Even with behavior worthy of castigating, your forbearers seemed to grasp the situation better than you have shown.

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Your leader Ojukwu was very educated but his mistake was worse than that of an illiterate. It was sheer greed & stupidity to claim mid west. The same greed and stupidity that is driving his plans in the Mega Party with the likes of Enahoro.

Oga Professor, well done! you can draw clues from avatars, there must be no end to your brilliance. But what is the relevance of your geography lesson. Are you now trying to repeat the mistake of your shameless elders and claim what doesn't belong to you? It didn't work then and it won't now.

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Some is an understatement. Ibibios fought well. PH had one of the largest supporters for Biafra. The average Ogoni wanted Biafra but the Wiwas had more voice and when Biafra lost they gave em more power to do as they liked in Rivers. Even Ijaws especially Eastern Ijaw ppl fought hard for Biafra. We know about Frank Opugo. The whole idea that it was an IGBO project is a lie used to further divide us and unfortunately we still have ppl in the SOUTH who believe that.

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THE IGBOS WERE GREEDY AND WANTED DELTA AMONG BIAFRA. DELTA STATE CAN NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE A PART OF BIAFRA. IN THE STRUGGLE OF THE NIGER DELTA, HAVE U HEARD ANY IGBO MAN SPEAK? NO IGBO HAS A SAY IN THE NIGER DELTA OIL. OJUKWU WANTED TO CLAIM DELTA STATE AND CALL THE NON-IGBOS MINORITY. THE TRIBES BASICALLY AROUND THE NIGER DELTA REGION ARE THE IJAWS, ITSEKIRIS ANF URHOBOS.

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Niger Delta tribes cant defeat the North alone they will need help from other freedom-loving Southerners.

We in the south are fighting for the same things. We want to be safe from criminals and oppression.

We want to enjoy God given prosperity and be free from poverty. Yes the North and its leaders are the enemy.

They are islamizing the whole country by joining international islamic organization. If they have the right to their

own sharia police we in the south have the right to our own laws and police. We are the resistance. All this ethnic

hatred and rivalry is not going to help the cause. Even in the Biafran Army there were some non-Igbo officers and

soldiers. But the issue is not about Biafra alone or Deltans alone it is a Southern Issue. We should all see Nigerian

power as an evil occupying force. Occupying our lands and generating collaborators to oppress us. We are being

occupied. Our claims to human rights,absolute freedom and land is being negated. So we have the right to resist.

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Its crazy how people can be so unrepentant and unwilling to even admit their own mistake. It must be a PRIDE thing. Admitting "damn we were so wrong and deceived" is a bad thing in their backyard so they even display stupidity worse than that of their uneducated elders.

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Bros

When the fools were lured into a slumber full of decadence by the politician from the northern region of Nigeria, the maggots did not dream of the future stakes. I can not stop amusing myself when I read self-pity and acts of contortion all in the name of denial from loudmouths. The funny thing is that the idiots are still in deep slumber unable to realize which delta they inhabit.

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LOL Dede1

Nna man the stupidity displayed by some of our siblings down the delta is mind boggling.

How can anyone in their right mind deny the existence of Igbos in that area and even call them immigrants? You are right. Educating a dunce is a waste of time when the info is one click away.

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If you think I would waste my precious time educating a wobbling dunce such as you on the internet, then you are irreparably blinded to stupidity? The mere reference to Bakassi in your post discloses your lack of knowledge to the subject.

If I may draw a clue from your avatar, I hope you are not remotely identifying your sorry Bottom as an inhabitant of “Niger Delta” because among knowledgeable human beings, your area of domicile is entrenched in delta formed by Nen River, Escravos (Slave) River and Forcados River.

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Afakwu, this was the statement my question was meant for.

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Imo and Abia are oil producing. Anambra and Enugu are oil-bearing which oil is capped (reserved), waiting for when the ND oil finishes. In terms of gas, Anambra and Imo also produce/contain gas. ND people should bluff with oil for the north and not for Ndigbo, as we have enough to sustain us should Nigeria break up.

Importantly, Ndigbo do not need land or oil/gas from ND land.

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When you say 'many igbo land' are you referring to Bakassi? If not, please name these lands.

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Back up your claims. I am always willing to learn. But I need proof.

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Sentiment aside. You guys keep crying betrayal but Adaka Boro declared Niger Delta Republic from the old eastern region before biafra was declared why didn't igbos support Boro?

You talk about selling birthrights but Ojukwu collects a pension from the Nigerian Army whilst biafra veterans continue to wallow in abject poverty and misery?

By ignoring these veterans are you also not selling your birth right?

Shouldn't you guys be helping these veterans instead of gloating over the deaths of Niger Delta women and children?

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@beystwin. Only the above line/quote of your idiotic comment gave you out as an unrepentant illiterate, so i aint gonna bother responding to you. Ewu awusa , go grab your book and do some reading.

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Thank you! Can you recommend a book?

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Hmm, to a certain extent, I'd pick up a book if I were you.

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Its not that hard. . . . . . .

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Ojukwu Bialegend:

Which history book - do you mean the one your father wrote?

In your line of reasoning, the Yorubas very soon will be considered immigrants to Lagos, as you want to have an Igbo king there, even though it is Yoruba territory.

Beerlegend! Sober up.

I am sick of hearing this Hausa-bashing, because you are all the same, with your tribalistic, selfish interests.

This thread is going nowhere, fast.

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I don't know how old you are, but being young is not an excuse for you not to know that Igbos have always wanted out of that bleeping hell hole called nigeria since time immemorail when your fathers were still sleeping, but for your ethnic group and the Yorubas arrss licking and connivance with the hausas to keep Igbo down inside nigeria by force. You all were saboteurs against Igbos during the Biafran war. If not for your people's coward efforts in aiding the hausa/fulanis, we would have had out own country today. Now, the same thing we fought for 40 years ago, you and your people are waking up to it's reality in 2009. Good morning and good luck in your idiotic quest, but ONE NIGERIA remains.

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The Niger Delta people know who their friends and enemies are. The truth is, there are no friends of the Niger Delta people in Nigeria. Nigeria just wants to grab as much from them as possible. A good example is the way Bakassi was handed over to the Cameroonians. And the Igbo are no better than the rest.

You claim that the Igbo nation is in the Niger Delta. That is where you fail, and continue to fail. There is no Igbo nation in the Niger Delta! Stop deluding yourself and others. The Igbos in the Niger Delta are merely immigrants.

That is why the Biafra war was lost by the Igbos. Had the Igbo not chosen to forcefully add the Niger Delta to their territory, they would have been a country of their own by now and nobody would have given a f*ck about them.

The only reason Nigeria is still "one" country is because of the Niger Delta. Maybe once the oil is finished, you can all find your own way and p*ss off.

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I wonder why people are still believing this map of nigeria as the british people who handed power to the incompetent hausa people so as to use them mumus to indirectly hold unto their interests in nigeria drew the map.

The map as was drawn and shoved down to us at our various stages of schools is not a true representative of the land mass of various peoples of nigeria. Do you notice how they squeezed the land mass of Igbos and made it look as if Igbo people's land area is not big enough. That is out rightly rubbish.

I can draw my own map of nigeria and present Igbo land mass as the largest and hausa/fulani as the smallest. Noticed how the land mass of their yoruba arsss kissers is second to theirs? Absolute nonsense. The worst part is that our children at scholl are still being shoved this nonsense drama of a map down their knowledge faculty as legitimate. Map of nigeria as was drawn is nonsense and i will never believe in it just as any other same person would not.

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I wonder; what the frigging hell were you trying to say? Expatiate.

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Republic of Biafra + crude oil deposits = Permanent distruction of ndigbo

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