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Why Was Che Guevara Killed By The CIA?

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (June 14, 1928[1] – October 9, 1967), commonly known as Che Guevara, El Che or just Che was an Argentina-born Marxist revolutionary, political figure, and leader of Cuban and internationalist guerrillas.

As a young man studying medicine, Guevara travelled rough throughout South America, bringing him into direct contact with the impoverished conditions in which many people lived. His experiences and observations during these trips led him to the conclusion that the region's socio-economic inequalities could only be remedied by socialism through revolution, prompting him to intensify his study of Marxism and travel to Guatemala to learn about the reforms being implemented there by President Jacobo Arbenz Guzmán.

While in Mexico in 1956, Guevara joined Fidel Castro's revolutionary 26th of July Movement, which seized power from the regime of the dictator[2] General Fulgencio Batista in Cuba in 1959. In the months after the success of the revolution, Guevara was assigned the role of "supreme prosecutor", overseeing the public show trials and executions of hundreds of military and civilian leaders associated with the previous regime.[3][4] After serving in various important posts in the new government and writing a number of articles and books on the theory and practice of guerrilla warfare, Guevara left Cuba in 1965 with the intention of fomenting revolutions first in Congo-Kinshasa, and then in Bolivia, where he was captured in a military operation supported by the CIA and the US. Army Special Forces.[5] Guevara was summarily executed by the Bolivian Army in the town of La Higuera near Vallegrande on October 9, 1967.[6][7]

After his death, Guevara became an icon of socialist revolutionary movements and a cultural icon worldwide. An Alberto Korda photo of him has received wide distribution and modification, appearing on t-shirts, protest banners, and in many other formats. The Maryland Institute College of Art called this picture "the most famous photograph in the world and a symbol of the 20th century

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara

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RoFLMFSAO, Poor David, ruff. Ruff. Bat( and this is my LAST response to you) The only person to so-called bumped the thread was your partner, LOL, Anyway goat, Take a hint and scram, look around you, as "illiterate" as you claim I am, I am the one being debated NOT your "smart Bottom" . Oh! One last thing monkey, this "illiterate" island g.al still makes more money and has more than your "eistein" wannabe, Now free up the space so that Kobojunkie and the others can post meaningfully. I am done with you "black-out"

PS, I am too OLD to grow up, LOLOLOLOL,

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lol talk of a crass lack of culture.

This is not about Davidylan, an ignorant carribean oaf, my oppinions or being ignored. This is about issues, facts and figures.

This is not about personalities (which unfortunately is the only route left for many with less than half a brain) but about political discourse.

Only empty heads are more concerned about who is being ignored or not.

Did you notice that the vast majority of people have ignored this thread since you bumped into it and it seems you're just struggling to maintain a form of relevance?

Read through my post . . . forget about the poster (i know its hard for illiterates), read through the facts and pick out what you think is wrong there.

And while you are at it pls GROW UP! Adults deal with issues, children are pre-occupied with ad hominems.

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US is the only country in the world who is supposed to care for the poor and they are doing that already Most of world aid come from US donor agencies any

natural disaster the US would come forward let Russia too do something for their allies.

If a country is poor its because the US does not want to trade with it it if otherwise US anointed son.

Aid to Rwanda and Uganda for HIV is because of oil too Tsunami is South Asia the US was the major donor why don't those countries refuse the aid

Cuba that can not feed its citizens Have you forgotten Arian Gonzalez sage the boy whose mum would rather die on the Atlantic than go back to in[b]CUBA[/b]tor.

If you fail exam is the U.S If your wife divorces you its the U.S again. This U.S self.

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How much oil does Cuba and Afghanistan have?

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It is one thing to be biased but at some point you have to at least stop to compare what you carry around with you with facts that exist. When will you do that??

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I know wiki is not 100% but this should give you an idea of who has been in controlf of cuba and it's economy for all this while , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba

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Following this logic, should we also blame the UK for most of the countries in Africa that are hell holes now cause of the actions of the many corrupt leaders in charge??

I seriously doubt this statement you made here cause your argument so far shows a great deal of bias against the USA, it seems.

We are fed propaganda on a daily basis. Be it in your home or at work, we choose to bite or remain unchanged. Just cause you are fed propaganda from one side or another does not make the side whose idea you choose to subscribe to responsible for what you do. It is simply that, you make the choice and are still responsible for your actions.

 

You mention that Fidel should step down and you do not even mention the fact that he ruled over a nation and saw the economy drop to hell with thousands of people fleeing to their death as reason why he should even step down but you mention his health as reason and then you follow it up with statement on how you admire him for standing against the USA during this time, the people have had to suffer every second of the way and you feel this was right punishment for his stand against the USA? I seriously think you should search yourself please. Thousands have had to die for nothing when cuba could have and has actually continued to trade with with the soviet and other communist countries, countries which the USA itself also trades with. I don't think you understand much of the Cuban Economy at all. I would suggest you read up on the economy and maybe you will see what cuba did to itself as against the fanthom effects you blame on the embargo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba

 

This last statement you make here fuels my doubt of your claim that you are not biased in this.

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Islander let people believe what ever they want to believe please. We all know propaganda and lies when we see it. USA has done more damage in some countries that is beyond comprehension.

Why is USA so against Castro and Chavez or even Saddam? Not to save the poor people its all about the oil.

Why cant USA go and stop the violence in Dafur or Kenya if they so much care about the poor?

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@Kobo,

YES! The USA, just like any other nation, has the right to trade with whom ever it so deems fit. However, when the issue at hand involves a nation that was basically built and later patterned by the US I feel it is only right that they take full responsibility.

As I have been preaching from the beginning of my posts, if it were NOT the USA I would have felt the very same way.

Ok Kobo so maybe I was fed Propaganda. Well it was done from both sides I guess. Then again as my mother always said there are 3 sides to a story, My side, your side and the TRUTH!!

If you were to do an extentive research I am postiviely certain more than 70% of the defectors from Cuba would tell you did so NOT out of hatred for my "pally" Fidel but rather due to the economy. Afterall, survival should be of utmost importance.

And I do agree that it is time for Fidel to step down. His health is fading among other things. I however, admire him for standing up to the US and allowing them to have their way as they always do,

PS, Let me divert a bit. I just had to get this in. Here is another of the US's trick they tried to inflict on us. In 1995 they had a few of the Islands PM's signed this document called "The Ship-riders effect" what that did was give them the right to come to islands at a specific time each year with helicopters and burn our marijuana. According to the USA, they were helping to save our youths from drugs. Laughing my effing Bottom off. The reason why I love my present PM is because he of what he stands for. When he took over power he kicked their asses off the island and got rid of that document, and the others follow suit. You see, what the US was reallying doing was destroying our potent ganja so that their weakass, home-grown pot would have a market. The US coming to help eradicate drugs in the islands when this country has more addicts than Pastors. LOL.

Anyway I am at work, I will check back periodically.

Kobo, I am waiting for more, keep them coming, yo hear?

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That "picture" is of no relevance. Its the same tired old propaganda trotted out by the left . . . Isreali policies are hurting the palestinians in Gaza bla bla bla. If Castro cared so much about these oh so "poor Cubans" why is he not stepping down to allow them conduct normal democratic elections?

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You hit the nail on the head. A lot of people "debate" without bothering to pass their oppinions through the crucible of common sense.

Last we all checked, the US as a sovereign nation, has a right to trade with whichever country it likes.

Germany is the largest economy in Europe, China is an emerging super-power and Japan is the world's second largest economy, Russia is busy building a trans-European gas pipeline and providing Iran with nuclear expertise . . . plenty of trading partners there . . .

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@Nuzo

Yes I am. This issues touches close to home. As a West Indian growing up in the islands I can vividly recalled hating Fidel and everything he stood for all because of the propaganda we were fed by the USA.

Thank God in 1997, when we changed government and the new Prime Minister rallied the OECS( Organisation Of Eastern Caribbean States) to defy the threats made by the US( they had planned to stop exporting our agricultural produces if we made friends with Cuba) and unite with our fellow Cubans.

Seems that my point of the US trading with Cuba is very must mis-understood. The USA had intentions of claiming Cuba for itself just like it did Puerto Rico, thus it had large investments there. They (USA) gave Fidel all he and his men needed to take out Batista and then turned around and abandoned the Cubans when Fidel preventing them from pulling his strings.

Just like a father is responsible for a child when he impregnates its mother, so too is the USA responsible for Cuba. I stand firm in this belief and no one can deter me.

Fidel is no saint. He has done some questionable deeds ( and so too has the leaders of the USA, past, present and those to come) However, the bigger picture here is that the embargo is NOT, let me reiterate NOT hurting Castro, but the poor Cubans.

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I still don't understand how Cuba's abject poverty is the fault of the U.S Rather blame a failed theory.

Why does Cuba not trade with her communist sisters? Why should U.S be blamed and not Russia or China for not saving an ailing sister country.

Most Cuban would rather trek to the U.S than die of Castro's imposed poverty on the Island.

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@Islander

You have been sounding so sentimental about the whole issue.

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@Kobojunkie,

Thanks for the link. Rushing out to work, but promise to get to it as soon as I can and be back. Addios mi amigo, hasta la vista,

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To be honest, if you read the link Mamajamma posted you will notice that the USA was not the only country or power backing Mobuto.  I am tired of giving analogies to provide simpler ways of viewing these things. I instead ask again that at least one or two agreements between these two people's/nations to show that the country supports their dictatorship. I am all out of air at this point. From where I stand, I do not place the USA on any pedestal and I see exactly the same issues you claim you see only with the USA, with practically every country on this planet. From Nigeria, to Russia, to India, to Korea, to Pakistan, to Australia, to UK, to Sudan,  etc . What I do not understand is how you can claim not to hold USA on a pedestal high above every other country out there, but still do not see how this pattern exists with every single country on this planet. Sure when it has to do with America, it is blown up and made a bigger deal than when it involves France or belgium.  

About Noriega, read up on the man yourself. Spend some time researching him and notice how the same country turns on them when they go rogue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega . What do you expect the USA to do in all cases?? Have crystal balls all over to know the future of those they do business with in the present??

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Thank you very much. Unlike the majority here whom for whatever reasons refused to admit that the US has serious issues regarding the handling other countries welfare.

@Kobojunkie, sorry I couldn't return yesterday. I was in the slammer. This resulted from having to deal with my Internet stalker,whom by the way I have been reported to the US Attorney General's office.

Now back to business. I forgot to mention yesterday that Cuba's situation is NOT the only such. Take Norriego's( not sure of the spelling). How about Saddam? These are just of few of the USA's made dictators. The USA set them up for power with the intention of 'running' their shows. Only to have their plans backfired in their faces.

I am not at all saying that the USA is all bad. The truth is they need to change many of their policies. And I strongly think they should begin with Cuba, moreso the embargo.

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It does say there in the article that the US was third largest donor of AID to Zaire, next to Belgium and France. I can not say for sure that the man did not use most of that AID money to fund his ideas. Could you please explain yourself in more detail cause I have no clue where you are going with the Mobutu story here.

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Che was killed in Boliviar by the Army and not by CIA. Even he was formenting trouble in Congo-Kinshasa and Boliviar. he was captured by the Bolivian army supported by the CIA.

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Dude here is a script from

The U.S. government, saw the Soviet activity as a maneuver to spread Communist influence in central Africa. Kasavubu, riled by the Soviet arrival, dismissed Lumumba in an act of dubious legality. An outraged Lumumba attempted to depose Kasavubu, to no effect. Both Lumumba and Kasavubu then ordered Mobutu to arrest the other. As army chief of staff, Mobutu came under great pressure from multiple sources. The embassies of Western nations, who were helping to pay the salaries of his rebellious soldiers, as well as Kasavubu, the student and his own subordinates favored getting rid of the Soviet presence. On September 14, 1960, Mobutu took control,[8] putting Lumumba under house arrest for the second time and keeping Kasavubu as President.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko

read about Mobutu and tell me what you think. where did he get his weapon and money from?

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I have something to ask of you @Mamajama. You mentioned Mobute and Charles Taylor. Can you please give us information on the Agreement the USA had with these people that you have there. What exactly was the agreement?? To Support them even when they run off with their own agenda?? @Mamajamma. Last I checked, agreements usually come with conditions and if you do not mind, I would like for you to show us information on these agreements and the conditions of the agreements you laid down there as proof against the USA.

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USA is a good country but some of the policies and interference in other country is horrendous. The list goes on and on

MOBUTE sese seko and Charles Taylor are some prime example. The USA aided and funded this lunatics, and once they do not need them any more, they leave them to self destruct. this is why most people are so outrage with the USA policies

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The USA was responsible for aiding Fidel in ousting Batista and his regime with the sole intention of snatching power from Fidel after him and Che and crew would have already done their dirty job. ( sounds familiar?)

actually the US aided fidel castro, socialists and liberals. fidel castro was meant to start a moderate regime and actually once visited the US. he turned on the US and jails most of his liberal allies that put him in power.

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My point is that the state of the cuban economy is directly related to the embargo that the US placed on the country. Transportation is one of the major issues affecting Cubans. Getting from point A to B is a hassle. Why? the cars there were manufactured before 1959( american cars) and since there is no way of getting equipment in, then it created a problem. '

wrong, the US embargo is only partly to blame for the fall of the cuban economy. before and after the embargo, cuba was subsidized generously by the soviet union and presently venezuala. agrarian reforms,nationalization of industries and castro chasing away the casionos and tourism affected cuba more than the embargo.

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Iman, couldnt the same be said about Ghandi?

re: your first comment.

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If indeed Guevara was killed by the CIA, it only shows the US is prone to errors and mistakes, and should be made accontable for their own mistakes.

Personally, it is an insult to the Cubans to have Fidel in power for decades now.

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1)  What agreement ties the USA to this so called responsibility you claim it has to Cuba. I would very much like to see where you came up with that one. It would actually bolster your argument if you came up with any binding agreements made by the USA to cuba on this issue, if it be factual.

2) Notice how you putting the USA on a pedestal in your arguments? USA should do this and that, it is the USA's responsibility to Cuba in this and that , Yet you have yet to view things as they really are?? CUba is a nation with it's own laws and trade policies. why is the USA to bail it out of it's problems?? Are you implying you want the USA to police CUBA now??

3) No where in my post did I insult you, I gave you analogies of every simple kind to get you to see why your argument seems flawed and I still suggest you see reason in this. Cuba is a nation which has so far made it's own decisions and had to deal with the consequences of these decisions. Same as the USA has made decisions and had to deal with the consequences of it's decisions. Why do you place the USA over Cuba and then expect the USA to be the one to repent just cause you can not see that Cuba is responsible for it's own state??

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@ davidylan,

Please ease up on this war. I remember you initiated a peace process between me and Islander. Stop this unwanted bickerings. It is un-called for seriously.

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@ Busta, happy new yr sweetie. Dont bother your pretty head, 2008 is not a yr i intend to bow to the brainless intimidation of people without moral scrupples and devoid of character.

This is not feud as it takes 2 to feud. This is merely the rantings of one with deep emotional problems. I will at once return to the topic at hand. Rabid dogs are free to continue weeping profusely.

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hahahaha  . . . see the above as an example of a CIVILISED discussion. Thanks for showing us.

As for anyone inviting me here . . . i dont remember you owning this site neither is this topic reserved for you or anyone else. infact you are not the thread author.

As for not replying your posts . . . basically i am not, merely pointing out the fact that you cant, on the basis of 3 yrs "study" in Cuba, come over here and pretend that you are intelligent. Stick to the forum games section where minimal cerebral effort is required.

As for exchanging "ideas, facts" . . . it is clear you dont have any.

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Bald head, gay david, open your wax infested ears and listen, I am NOT discussing poo with you goat, I am having a civil exchange of ideas, facts and opinions with I man and Koko, Now take your ugly, sissy Bottom back to sucking on d.icks, Dont reply my posts. Matter of fact stay the f.uck away from me. Gosh! Islander despises your uglyass with a passion, Is it by force that you respond me? You nor nothing that comes out of that stink mouth of yours makes sense, NO ONE invited you here, now scram

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1. we are at this very said discussion due to what the USA started before 1957, so that answers my next point.  yes they are obligated to CUBA. so tell me, when a man pregnants a lady he is not entitled to his responsiblilites?  

2. Don't you dare insult me.  I work my Bottom off to pay my tuition and so too did my sister and my brother. My mentioning of the scholarship scenario was jus to highlight another of the USA's many flaws,

Listen you can preach John Paul and speak in tongues, It is what it is, The USA needs to repent and get baptized, And no 'bashing". we are having a civil discussion.

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Yet more garbage. The US has trade bans on Iran YET Russia is helping her develop nuclear facilities. The French helped Saddam with a nuclear weapons programme at about the same time the US had embargoes on Iraq.

So what really is the point here?

If you went to Capetown you'd think you were in the US too, is America trying to remake them into little USA?

No point at all. The US is not under any obligations to help a nation that was actively willing to serve as a missile base for the Soviet Union during the cold war. I guess your history teacher forgot to mention that to you.

and yet carribean islanders prefer to emigrate to the US than Canada? Stop speaking from both sides of the mouth.

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We are not in 1957. We are in the year 2008, over 50 years now since 1957. The world has moved on to a point where the USA does not control it all, has not for almost 50 years now. The Embargo was not and never was on the rest of the world not doing business with CUBA but on USA not doing business with Cuba. Cuba can always get cars and what nots from other countries that america itself gets the same from.

The USA is NOT, get it, NOT obligated to finish anything in CUBA. The Usa has a right to give scholarships to whomever it chooses to. Heck even those of us living in the USA do not get Scholarships why then do you think you MUST get it. Remember, that money happens to come from the pockets of people like me, yet I do not get any scholarship money myself.

 

Please, please please, BASH REASONABLY,  Have solid reasons please. Cause I almost get this picture that you do not realize the money comes from the pockets of individual americans in this. I tried to attend an island medical school myself and I NEVER GOT SCHOLARSHIP MONEY OF ANY KIND MYSELF. Are you seriously trying to tell me that you are miffed at the USA for not giving you scholarship money, so when CUBA gives it means USA is evil?? Please find reason.

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Same old senilility being expressed. Perhaps if you faced the issues raised and stopped pandering to your inability to engage your thinking faculties you'd realise that the essence of an argument is not to lower yourself to the deepest crevices of bestiality.

Having a "civilised" debate is not something that is synonymous with you.

Lets have a look at what she calls "civilised" debate:

Absolute hogwash. There are more Asian cars sold in the US than than US cars . . . have the Japanese and Koreans also placed an embargo on Cuba? Why cant they go import Toyota's if Ford is not allowed to export her cars to Cuba? What of German cars, French, Italia cars? All those countries have embargoes on the Cubans?

I-man said put it best, to blame the state of Cuba's economy on US embargoes is to expose the fact that you know nothing about what you are actively debating. You can spend 30 yrs "studying" in Cuba and remain as ignorant as you went in.

Again more hogwash. The US has every right to determine which nation it has trade relations with. Should the US also start trading with Hamas because Palestinians in Gaza are dying?

What is this "stance" against the US? Just like the ambigous "foreign policies" that the arabs give as an excuse for carrying out suicide bombings, it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

Continue having a "civilised" debate.

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Try as I might to rationalise the necessity of restricting the movement of his people. . .i realise it is a hopeless excercise

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@I man

couldnt quote(lappy acitng up)

Anyway, to answer your questions. Again it is as a direct result of the embargo why Cuba is in such a state. Now you are forgetting here that before 1945 the USA was more less Cuba's "papa". So when they integrated that embargo it drastically hampered the economy. What made it even more devastating was that the USA tried to pressure countries like Canada and England from offering aid to the Cuba.

Look growing up as I child in the islands, there was so much propoganda about Fidel that I hated with man with a passion. Look at the invasion of Grenada. The USA lied about their students at St. Georges' Medical school being threatened. When CNN interviewed them they declined. within 12 mins that portion was edited.

The truth is the USA has its evil side and the sooner people start accepting this the better. If we continue to sing their praises even when they are off key the unequalities of this world would continue,

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3 years University study in Cuba,the Cuban Govt never allows foreigners to access the full depth of Cuban public opinion,wouldn't undermine the validity of the criticisms of Castro's regime.

I appreciate that there are 2 sides to every story and some of the demonisation of Castro is unfounded.Nevertheless,the regime remains a despotic regime that continually fails to respect many basic freedoms of its inhabitants who,unlike you,cannot just pick their bags and leave the country.

Why do many Cubans have to risk their lives to come to the US?-because the Cuban Govt tries to stop many from leaving.Can you imagine if the Vincentian or Nigerian Govt stopped people from leaving with the result that many have to risk their lives just to exercise a basic freedom,freedom of movement.Remember,its not the American embassy visa restrictions that forces Cubans to undertake life-risking journeys,it is the Cuban Govt that stops its own people from leaving.We won't accept that in our countries,why accept it for others?

You misunderstand the essence of the embargo-in simple terms-the US has refused to trade with Cuba.If I refuse to trade with you,I'm not responsible for your poverty.Cuba is free to trade and does trade with other nations on the planet.There is no Naval blockade that stops them importing or exporting their goods.They can buy or sell easily to any other nation,the US simply says,you are not going to do that with us.

Once again I ask,isn't the US fully entitled to determine who and how it conduct its trade relations.Remember,the embargo was passed as a result of Cuba's policy restrictions on US businesses.So Cuba can conduct whatever economic/trade policies it deems fit but the US can't?

Given that Cuba operates a communist economic model and given that all other nations operating same model have been proven failures,what are the chances that Cuba would have been an exception to the rule sans the US embargo excuse? Are Cubans any more intelligent or skillful than Russians,East Germans,North Koreans,Hungarians,Poles,Bulgarians,Yugoslavs,Czechs,e.t.c-all who operated a similar model and all who ended as failures.The difference with Cuba is that they didn't have the US embargo excuse to deploy every time their economic misery is mentioned.

You can admire a particular stance without extending praise to the person adopting the said stance.When the time comes for him to leave?He is almost dead,hasn't such time arrived since 1959? You mean that in 49 years in power,the time for him to leave hasn't yet arrived?

For one person to hold on to power for 49 years is an insult to the intelligence of the Cuban people.Are they saying no one amongst the 12 million Cubans is capable of doing what he is doing?No one of will accept,in our own nation,having a leader who stays in power for 5 decades,not even 2 decades,yet we find no problem in accepting same for others.

I guess that is the difference between staying briefly at the pleasure of the Cuban Govt and having to live in that country as an ordinary citizen with little say on how the Govt determines your destiny.

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Nairaland Notorious \gay Davidylan aka Moyinoluwa,

Your stinkass just likes my bashing. goat when will you get it through your bald head to STOP replying my posts,. Your Bottom isnt wanted.NOW get over Islander and move on.

You stink bat, Fuckard like you. All you do is follow a certain male Nlder around ( do you need help coming out of your closet?) I can help you.

Yes I am at liberty to bash the USA, you see I can return home anytime and continue living in luxury. Unlike your poor Bottom. Mosquitoes will eat your " black" Bottom alive.

Yes let me bash USA, the same way you bash Muslims, The same Muslims whose house you and your "doctor" mother and siblings lived in for years,

You scum, slimey pig,

Now get back in your kernel, I am having a discussion with civilsed humans, Not you Sugar daddy,

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Stop shreaking, no one cares about your educational history.

Isnt is funny how people hail Fidel Castro's policies, insult the Americans and in the same breath admit that the economic status in Cuba is bleak. Perhaps this is the fault of the US embargo too.

To blame the Cuban economic situation on a US embargo is simply hogwash . . . if the Cubans hated Americans so much why are they not risking life and limb to emigrate to Mexico instead.

Simple: it is the height of hypocrisy to claim to dislike US policy and then continue to live there. If Castro's Cuba is a paradise why have you not packed your bags and gone back there?

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indeed just like your US allowed the Palestine to have 'HAMAS' as their democratically elected leader.

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just like they allow Congo people to enjoy Patrice Lumumba their elected leader

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1.  My mention of asslickers was aimed at immigrants who have migrated to the west and now refuse to admit anything the west even if it is blatantly wrong.

2. I am not Nigerian.

3. Unlike many band wagon riders on this forum, I do my own research.  pul, ease, 90% of imports to Cuba are from Russia, China and Canada.  Yes recently the USA has allowed a products in, but it is nothing to go kolomental about.  

PS> Reading something in the newspaper, viewing it on TV and freaking living it are so different, As we say in the islands "tek yo 2 eyes an sleep"

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indeed just like your US allowed the Palestine to have  'HAMAS' as their democratically elected leader.

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just like they allow Congo people to enjoy Patrice Lumumba their elected leader

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Sure there are persons from cuba who will say they do not have a problem with the system there. By the way, I do have cuban friends and have been in some discussions with them to understand what their problem with the system is. I do not think that being realistic about the fact that many of the cubans who migrated to the USA do so cause they have a better chance in the USA means one is an a** licker. I would say you look at this 360 to understand what many of these people see from the outside.

A system, whichever one you choose, is supposed to be in place to help provide the people with better quality of living at most any cost. What does it benefit a people if they continue on a path that is fraught with misery and danger for the very people the system is supposed to protect.  Look away from Cuban-USA relationship for a second and look at your own dear Nigeria. The reason why we decided to move to democracy was cause we realized that millitary rule was not for us. I am sure there are many in the country who would love to see the days of Babangida and Abacha back, for their own reasons but the fact remains that the majority opposed millitary rule and so we find ourselves where we are today. We made a change, why?? So the people can have a better chance at a better life. Now apply the same reasoning to systems around the world that are not to the benefit of the people but for those ruling the people and their egos and I hope you see why the cubans who escape their country at all cost, even risking death to leave, are speaking out against the system, regardless of the reason they give for leaving??

Now about the embargo you speak of, I seriously think you should educate yourself on the current state of that with Cuba. Many people do not know this but american companies have been doing business with cuba for some years now. http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/funfacts/embargo.htm  and there are a couple of bills in the works to increase the number in years to come. Already many countries around the world have already been doing business with cuba and I believe that would include canada. Please look this information up to understand the REAL state of things down there.

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and your US is democrat?

I wonder why they dont have 'communist party'

I wonder why after 500yrs no BLACKMAN has ever become President

I wonder why after 500yrs no WOMAN has ever become President even Pakistan better them.

please spare us.

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@richy

I couldn't agree with you more. Che was killed for all those very reasons you mentioned. They have tried for years to wipe out my man Fidel, but so far he has proven untouchable. I remembered growing up in the islands and hating Fidel, thanks to the poison we were fed by the mighty USA. It wasn't untl in 1998 when I went to Cuba to study that I was really enlightened on the USA-Cuba saga. Three years among the Cuba people and hearing their side of the story has really given me a new leash on what I was originally fed.

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you know why i discredited that story? the most powerful country like USA. if they are out to get or nail you. they will publicise stories like that to make you look as evil as ever.

I reserve my comment. and let the Latin nations be the judge.

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That was culled from Wikipedia.If he had bothered to read it,he will see things like this:

"During the guerrilla campaign, Guevara was also feared for his ruthlessness, and was responsible for the execution of a number of men accused of being informers, deserters or spies. "

and this:

"José Vilasuso, an attorney who worked under Guevara at La Cabaña preparing indictments, said that these were lawless proceedings where "the facts were judged without any consideration to general juridical principles" and the findings were pre-determined by Guevara.[32][33] It is estimated that between 156[34] and 550[35] people were executed on Guevara's extra-judicial orders during this time."

There are many more accounts of executions told by Che himself.He was definitely no democrat and hardly the saintly figure people now paint him.

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the man CHE is seen as a big hero right here in latin america.

many people equates him with god.

they worship and do a lot of sacrifices in his name.

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He shot local peasants because he suspected them of disloyalty.Even little boys were subjected to mock executions,"We blindfolded them and subjected them to the anguish of a simulated firing squad."

Like any personality cult,the facts of Che's life have little correlation to the perception of Che.The man,in his own writings,chronicled and glorified some of the killings he conducted.

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