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PHP Or Coldfusion: Which Is Better?

well, as for me i think Coldfusion is better for a lot of reasons. most php fanatics will say php hostin is cheap, but you can get Coldfusion hosting of 1000mb for as low as 24$ / 3500naira per annum (http://www.ucvhost.com/cfmx_hosting.htm). here are my reason's for sayin CF wins, they are FACTS which i can prove and i stand to be corrected

- less code

- neater and cleaner presentation

- awesome integration with PDF's and SWF's

- tag based (easy to learn, if u knw html, then u are a potential cf developer)

- built in charting,

- built in XML integration ,

- built in , read n write to registry,

- execute programs and batch files on the server,

- POP mail retrieval

- session management (PHP session management uses the filesystem which is slow and lacks flexibility)

please let me knw what you think.

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I think PHP is better because now PHP is a booming Industry, !!!

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^^^Or why can there not be 1 single framework or IDE that will solve the problems of all programmers once and for all!!!

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^^^In short. a programmer should be vast in knowlege.

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Micodon, there is no 'best' language.

The 'best' language is the one that enables the development team/focal person to 'best' approximate the customers needs/expectations. and customers are as different from each other as A is from B.

Sometimes they want tried and trusted.

Others want code so easy to build that accountants could do it by drag and drop.

others want speedy code that can be stored in small memory spaces.

You must fit the tool to the problem and vice versa

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Koderiter, listen to yourself. PHP and COldfusion, which is better. i'm guessing you are gonna choose one. if one is better, why cant there be a language that can be termed "best". Do your research

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pls i really need someone to help me out on these courses.i want to learn it from scratch.pls contact me if u can chuzzyrules@gmaildotcom

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Well Lets See. Since I Was Born Macromedia / Adobe I would have to say that cold fusion as for "integration & simplicity For the programmer" is way better. But as For options & future deployment and simplicity for the user "Experience" Def Php. Php is open src. Anything open src topples over structured systems. 3 million people are working on php scripts every day. I no longer have to reinvent the wheel every time I want something better. the Project i worked on for a year is thrown out for free and by the time it gets back to me in 8 months it already had commented tag lines describing what all 50 programmers did to add their "digital Signature" This is amazing when it comes to new technologies coming out because people start making things for them instantly and sharing them collectively until a final project is done and then everyone uses it in their own way.

I have contracted many different src from many different places and independent internet programmers all over the world mastering joomla and 3 party extensions on the 1.5. Its Unbelievable In the search engines being able to use so many talents available.

Like on any team you can not play with your self. Well maybe some of you do but you get the point. If I'm gonna score a touch down I need someone to throw or catch the ball.

coldfusion is designed to make you look for this person.

Php is design to make that person look for you.

It happens 100 times faster with way better results.

you cant pay for creativity. You have to just let it happen.

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I believe more in PHP Apps Development compared to ColdFussion Click here to learn more

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As far as I can tell php has made my web programming life easier. I started out with html and progressed into php/mysql, since then I have tried my hands on coldfusion, asp.net but both of them did not give me the ease of use, control and insight into web programming php has given me, plus the near-limitless resources, scripts and all for free online. Most times I start by taking a free script and reading, understanding, and modifying it to achieve my goals. Call me a copycat or whatever, but it gets the job done, and most of all I endeavour to study the code before modifying and using it. Now I cannot say much about coldfusion but since I am at ease with php, why change it since it does everything I could wish for.

Cheers.

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Or Apples and Oranges

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ColdFusion my Bottom. Try JSP/JSTL and you will know whatz up.cheers

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Guys abeg make i no cry abeg, comparing PHP with CF, na wa oh, see PHP rocks any day any time, outside being Open source, it floats some of the internet big wigs, Yahoo, Face book etc etc.

Moving to PHP from Java, C++, C# or Cblunt is straight foward, nothing like tags.

for heaven sake why should i do this <php>echo #name.</php>, na wa oh.

It has a wider community, check it. Some topshots back it, IBM etc, Talking of sleek IDE's have u noticed that NetBeans support it now, the is Zend for Eclipse

Aptana, guy abeg i dey hungry, i no fit write more.

But all in all PHP rules, check out it OOP structure, cool, watch out for PHP6 man.

Abeg no talk oh, na it they pay my bills.

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more like comparing windows OS and Mac

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how about nuke script?

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moreso, its kinda obvious that most of the guys here supporting php dont know a thing abt coldfusion, and thus, mention points that can easily be countered - like kennbox. the argument isnt really balanced as even krs1 has noted indirectly.

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@darkmanzero

but not the only feature. the cf supporters have been mentioning different features. php guys have either been running cf down without a reason, or crying 'open source'. I'd hav loved a more engaging debate.

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naijafan

open source *is* a feature

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Php versus cold fusion Oh My God!!!

What Comparision?

PhP is a world leader in the realm of webserver scripting. ColdFusion is nice I know, but I think Php is superior from the following reasons.

- PhP is OSS ( Open source software). developed by the universe and maintained by pros.

- PhP is lingua franca when it comes to LAMP (Linux apache mysql and PHP).

- PHP is easy to use as transition from a previous programming languauge like c or c++ or java is easy. Just a couple of hours

- apache installers of today comes with PhP pre configured.

- Not just a script, PHP could be used as a full blown programming language

and above all PHP is entirely FREE!!!!! with Source code LIVE!!!!

PHP has a huge user base support ( tutorials, books, e-books , )

Extremly cheap PHP host, alot of em are free self!

in Short PHP na you biko?

Kennbox

Strictly Nigerian

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coldfusion sucks big time

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In terms of interface(effizy) Coldfusion is better, but in terms of ease of use, easily available support and debugging tools i will choose PHP anytime. Althougn am a big fan of macromedia products - PHP is still better in developing applications that will be seamlessly available over the internet.

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@prodgalson and my2cents

I kinda agree with you on that point, comparing an open source project with a proprietary one. but come to think of it, why do we have a lot of comparisons done btw Microsoft Windows and Linux, btw Windows hosting and Linux hosting, btw even 'open source sturvs' and 'proprietary systems'? I think backing out of such comparisons will be like pretending racism doesnt exist.

@my2cents

Borrado probably wanted an argument, and not a correction as stated.

@boraddo

Sorry i spoke for you, anyway, if i'm wrong, i stand to be corrected!

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@kheme

that's a very vague reply. you need to support your claim. I think this thread is supposed to be educative in a way. simply saying one is better off without proving it renders your message worthless.

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everyone knows that PHP is better off!

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they are both good. although hard core coders wouldnt consider using it

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Wanna go tag based?

go for prado still powered by PHP! www.pradosoft.com.

I think php is a world on it own.

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guys, another feature worth noting about Coldfusion is the fact that 75 out of the fortune 100 companies use coldfusion , in nigeria, companies like Schlumberger, Accessbank and FCMB use coldfusion, so, CF's got a lot of future in the corporate world.

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Taken from http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20010702/036378.html but reflects my own views

Here are my personal opinions on this matter.

My personal favorite is PHP. PHP gives you complete control, down to line

breaks and HTTP headers, of your source code and page. You can easily spout

out HTML to the receiving browser by using an 'echo' command, or by popping

out of PHP, typing plain 'ol HTML', then go back to PHP for more processing.

Cold Fusion, however, tries to be more -proof. It's very useful if you

plan to upgrade or change your database. You specify your database and its

login information in one 'administrative' area for the server, then you can

reference it easily on any page. The nice thing about this is if you change

databases, for example, from Access to Ms SQL, you hardly have to touch your

pages to get it to work! Also, Coldfusion is built on tags, similar to HTML.

You might type a tag and a couple parameters, but on the browser's source

code on the receiving end, it's changed your code into correct HTML. In some

ways, this is a big plus.

Still, I prefer PHP. I like having line-by-line control of everything the

receiving browser will see and do. It's a little more difficult, because you

have to learn syntax for various functions, while with ColdFusion, the

syntax is generally a string of tags just like HTML.

Should I even mention the cost differences? PHP is FREE, open source. While

I'm not sure the cost of Coldfusion, the cost is in the $1000's, easily

sticking ColdFusion out of the reach of the casual webmaster.

At any rate, I hope this helps. This is just my personal opinion, so feel

free to contradict me

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Let mi start by saying i am a fan of pHP, though an ACTIVE COLDFUSION DEVELOPERS

The charm of any programming language to a novice person usually is the capabilities, n wot people are doing n can do wit it.

The all-powerful web portal 'yahoo' was built using PHP, it tink d same thing wit Google too (im not sure about ds at all n i stand 2 be corrected).

My Arguments now():

i have perused codes from both languages,

Php has a lot functions dat can allow u to do so much too, it has mail function, network functions that allows u to do things like cfhttp doz in coldfusion, functions that let u write on images(coldfusion doesnt av ds), i can go on and on, , but php is very powerful powerful summarily,

i fil php guyz are more program centric than coldfusion guyz, coz dey have 2 adapt a coding technique that forces dem to check first if something will go wrong b4 doing it(ol dz coldfusion guyz overlook n get errors dou).

php is also open-source so u can get a lot of written functions n assistance based on large followership(u no people like awof), its also much faster dan coldfusion

d only negative about php however is dat the codes are not user friendly, dis i no will be d excuse of novice n not professionals or experts who would have gotten use to d codes,

Now Coldfusssssssssssssssssssssssssssion, My love

Let mi start by saying dat ol d problems i eva ad as a developer was solved by Coldfusion

its tag based n so very easy 2 learn and debugg, tink a got d very basics in like 2 n half daz,

it encapsulates functionalities n exposes private class variables as simple attributes so u dont border about implementation u just supply parameters,

coldfusion was built on java so it leverages on its power

it has so many tags dat doz just about anything, mention it (it starts wit cf usually): cfsearch, cfdocument, cfmail, cfpop, cfchart, cfhttp, cfcollection, cfregistry, cfif, cfxml, cfftp, cfforms, cfcomponents, cfcookies, cftry, cflock, cfcatch, cftree, cfquery n dozens of very-easy-to-use functions, its just 2 much,

plus u can build applications that use event gateways: e.g SMS Applications; IM (Instant Messenger) Applications

u can create ur own tags; u can use oda people codes written in java n c++

its just beautiful, perharps one thing also wot of notice is Macromedia's great job with coldfusion's documentation, just search, get d best example n adjust d codes, u application is running,

Borrado has said a lot of things i wont like to repeat like integration with oda technologies,

u can create web n expose and webservices automatically from ur components(like functions in regular programming).

The Powerful IDE even makes things sleeker (Dreamweaver), which can generate codes for basic functionalities and has dragg n drop features,

Coldfusion however is relatively slower compaired with php, coz it converts cfml(ColdFusion markup Language) to Java first (on the fly) before it is executed,

Lets say both programs are very powerful, but coldfusion makes life easier n makes debugging (which any professional programmer will agree is a serious issue for consideration) a generation more easier,

But as for mi, im a PHP fan, n a Coldfusion Evangelist,

Let mi end by saying:

<cfthanks>Decide for ur self, </cfthanks>

Ojo Oluwaseun Samson

Coldfusion Developer, Coldfusion Evangelist,

0803 415 6073; 0807 619 5153

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@borrado

they say great minds think alike. i think i can now confirm that.

I came to this section basically to start a thread that compares coldfusion to php and other web development languages but you beat me to it with about 20 mins. slow me!

my opinion. coldfusion rules

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