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All Sins Are Equal?

When God said this, i don't mean he meant a sin like killing somebody and stealing a sweet are the same. I think he meant it in terms of both sins are disobeying him regardless of how big, or small, its still a disobedience. Share your views!

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sin is a sin becos sin is a sin!! the bible calls it " unrighteousness" and all unrighteousness is a sin.

to human understanding sins might be categorized but in sight of God, sin is sin for God cannot beyond SIN.

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softee,Sin na sin ,wether big or small, all sins has the same source which is , lust of the eye lust of the flesh and pride of life, so any thing wey you do wey fall under dis category na sin with the same punishment, all sin has the same punishment which is death,ie physical death,spiritual death and eternal death.aand they all end up in the lake of fire.abi E get small fire and big fire?, lol, if big and small fire dey then sin pass sin

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softee,Sin na sin ,wether big or small, all sins has the same source which is , lust of the eye lust of the flesh and pride of life, so any thing wey you do wey fall under dis category na sin with the same punishment, all sin has the same punishment which is death,ie physical death,spiritual death and eternal death.aand they all end up in the lake of fire.abi E get small fire and big fire?, lol, if big and small fire dey then sin pass sin

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0you all talking

we know its by grace we live as all have sinned and fallen short of that glory

Jesus came to save us from sin and not temptations.

sins are equal but its clear that agains Holy ghost is unforgivable

you all know why.

Repent and lets live in Jesus Christ

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I hope you saw the references I offered from the Bible? How many times did I quote Romans 6:1-2? Let me remind you -

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I have made it abundantly clear that God's Word does not encourage any sin in our relationship with Him - neither have I suggested anywhere what you're insinuating.

Why don't you ask the Lord Jesus why the inspired Word of God "bothered" to stress the categories in several texts? I'll make it simple again:

(a) if the Word of God did not make such a categorization, I really would not have done so - because there would have been no text in the Bible warranting such a distinction;

(b) if the Bible makes such a distinction, what is the crime in plainly saying so?

(d) if the Word of God does not make such a distinction, why don't you tell us what the following mean -

1 John 5:17 - (i) there is a sin unto death (ii) there is a sin not unto death - are they the same?

Exo. 22:1 & 4 and Lev. 20:10 - did stealing and adultery have the same punishments in the OT - were they the same?

Matt. 12:32 and Luke 12:10 - blashphemy against the Son of Man and against the Holy Spirit - are they the same?

The basic question posed by the topic of the thread is not about the consequence of any sin, but as simply put: "All Sins Are Equal?" (in other words - Are All Sins Equal?). If there's anything wrong with what has been offered so far to the effect that sins are not equal before God, then why haven't you discussed the texts provided earlier that show indeed that sins are not equal in the Bible?

I beg your pardon - where in my posts have I remotely alluded to that idea? Besides, I'm not the writer of the Bible, so please understand that the texts of Scripture explicitly teach that sins are not equal. To further strengthen my point, I have offered again and again that God's Word does not enocurage any sin in our lives - scroll up and read again what I said earlier, reproduced below:

The Word of God does not encourage any sin in our relationship with the Lord.

¤ 1 John 2:1 - 'these things write I unto you, that ye sin not'.

¤ Rom. 6:1-2 - 'Shall we continue in sin. . .? God forbid!'

Where in my rejoinders have I offered people any "option to choose the type of sin they should commit"? You make me wonder if you're actually reading entriess at all before you post replies. Perhaps it would help you answer the simple question of this thread by discussing the verses I offered to the point that sins are not equal before God. If they are, what do those texts mean?

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what i'm asking is this; if you are to help a sinner change his/her ways for the better, would you tell him/her to stop sin or look for a lesser sin to commit ??

i've seen the texts clearly and so far you have been making it clear that there are categories of sin .

what i want to understand is, why bother stressing the categories of sin - of which the consequences are the same ?

when you give people reason to believe that the Bible categorize sin, it's like giving them an option to choose the type of sin they should commit; which should probably have less punishment - which is not true.

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Rom. 6:1-2 - 'Shall we continue in sin. . .? God forbid!'

I don't know what you're really getting at, wormedup. Where did you ever read in the Bible that a believer is to advise a sinner about sin? You may be of the opinion that all sins are equal, and that's okay if it suits you. However, if the Word says it is not so, it's all up to you to reject or ignore what God says and push your luck.

The Bible does not teach that all sins are equal, and I've given several texts to bear that out. It's this simple - why don't you take those texts and discuss them and show us how you see the sins described in them as all equal? Let me outline them once again:

¤ did the Bible say in the OT that stealing and adultery are equal sins?

   Text: Exo. 22:1, 4 and Lev. 20:10.

¤ did the Bible say in the NT that blasphemy against Jesus and against the Holy Ghost are the same?

   Text: Matt. 12:32 and Luke 12:10.

¤ did the Bible say that 'the sin unto death' and 'the sin not unto death' are the same?

   Text: 1 John 5:16-17.

The basic point is that we should not favour some texts and ignore the others. Just because the ultimate consequence of any sin is eternal separation from God does not mean that we should ignore how God sees each sin on earth. Maybe I'm missing out on something in the texts I provided; so why don't you discuss them and show how those texts seem to teach that the sins in them are equal?

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i[b]f you were to advise a sinner,[/b] would you tell him/her it's better to shoplift than commit murder or, tell him/her to desist from all sin cos the consiquencies are all the same ??

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One sure thing is that there is no sin that goes unpunished whether big or small, sin is sin!!!

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You know what is creating so much problems in understanding this matter? Here, let's make some delineation -

1. Sin is sin, no matter what it involves.

    ¤ 1 John 5:17a - 'All unrighteousness is sin'.

2. The Word of God does not encourage any sin in our relationship with the Lord.

    ¤ 1 John 2:1 - 'these things write I unto you, that ye sin not'.

    ¤ Rom. 6:1-2 - 'Shall we continue in sin. . .? God forbid!'

3. Are all sins equal before God? The Bible says NO.

    ¤ I John 5:16-17 - 'There is a sin unto death. . . and there is a sin not unto death.'

    ¤ John 19:11 - 'therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.'

4. Do all unrepented sins lead to the same ultimate end and consequences? The Bible says YES.

    ¤ Luke 13:3 - 'I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.'

    ¤ Rev. 21:8 - 'But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and

       whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the

       lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.'

5. Does God treat all sins as equal on earth today? The Bible says NO.

    ¤ Matt. 12:32 - 'And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:

       but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world,

       neither in the world to come.

Just because the ultimate consequence of sin is eternal separation from God does not mean we should lump all sins together as equal where in fact God's Word does not say so at all. To do otherwise is to reject the Word and run along with human ideas which fall far short of the explicit statements of Scripture.

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are you serious ?? I need you to explain alittle more to me.

God said "Thou shalt not steal", then someone goes ahead and steals all his life (10 nairas).

on judgement day u think God is going to say "My child, i have decided to forgive u because I've been comparing ur sins to Osama bin laden's and i just can't bear the thought of putting u in the same place with him" ??

i don't think so !

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It not even good to be living in sin whether big or small, but we must be asking God to give us the wisdom to overcome sin. But if all sins are equal, remember that the sins of King Herod was greater than the sins of Moses, and as a result they all face different judgement.

The nemesis that will befall a big sinner is surely different from the nemesis that will befall a small sinner, even if they are born again several times over and over.

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Statements like this are made when people no longer read God's Word and yet want to legislate for Him. Before God, all sins are not equal.

And does God treat them all the same - if you can't compare them?

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Itz just that Before God all sins are equal, but before man it definitely isn't

coz you can't compare Adultery to shoplifting or lying to armmed robbery

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Look well again my dear, I'm not the one doing the weighing - God is, because so far I've only been quoting what He says. And if there's any talk of insincerity, talk about your uneasiness to accept what God's Word says on the issue.

Thank you. Then I take it that you're as guilty as the one who blasphemes against the Holy Ghost - yes?

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Before God, the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is unforgiveable, no matter how sincere the repentance that may follow (Matt. 12:31). The Bible teaches that sins are not equal before God -

(a) There is a sin unto death. . . (b) and there is a sin not unto death - I John 5:16-17.

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sins are equal before god, but i don't thinks sins are equal before man.i mean, god can forgive u for anything u have commited,as long as u truely repent,but man will forgive u for some sins and not for some others.for example, i can forgive for telling lies against me, but not for sleeping with my wife! ;d

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ALL SIN EQUAL??

MAYBE

GOD KNOWS BEST

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That's not what I'm saying. Read again -

That's what I said before. Now the point is that most people feel just because the ultimate consequence is eternal separation from God, therefore all sins are the same! There could be nothing further from the truth. Some would argue: what's the point of saying one sin is grosser than the other? My counter argument is that the Bible makes clear that in fact one sin is grosser than another, regardless the consequences. Those who feel that since the consequences are ultimately the same, therefore all sins are the same. That kind of reasoning is only possible where people take their eyes off God's Word.

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@bari_kade,

i've been following all ur posts on this topic but what i don't understand is this :

are u trying to make me believe that the punishment for the shoplifter that refuses to repent will be milder than that of the person who blasphemed against the Holy Ghost ??

i understand the Bible made clearifications about certain sins, but are trying to say that, finally, the shoplifter will get lesser punishment compared to the murderer ??

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@wormedup,

Rom 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Question: if any sin at all could be forgiven (stealing, shoplifting, adultery, pedophilia, etc.) after repentance, what do you think of this? -

        "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:

         but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

         (Matt. 12:31).

Clearly, the Bible makes a distinction between various kinds of sins. The ultimate consequence of all sin is eternal separation from God, but that doesn't make them all the same sin!

There is (1) a sin unto death, and (2) there is a sin not unto death - did you see that at all? 1 John 5:16-17.

Again look at this -

Luk 12:47-48 >>

And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

This is not an arbitrary gradation of man - it's what is stated in the Bible. God doesn't deal with people all at the same level simply because everyone has different levels of sin they commit - sins of commission and ommission.

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what's the consequence for the person who keeps committing any of those sins ?

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There's no way that all sins are the same.

Shoplifting and Paedophilia cannot even be compared.

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Under the Mosaic Law -

Exo. 20:14 >> Thou shalt not commit adultery. Exo 20:15 >> Thou shalt not steal.

Stealing

Exo. 22:1, 4 >> If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep. . . If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or Bottom, or sheep; he shall restore double.

Committing Adultery

Lev. 20:10 >> And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

In the NT.

1 John 5:16-17 >>

[a]If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death.

[b]There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

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Look, If a man steals a sweet and another commits adultery, When Judgment come, they will all face the same consiquencies.

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"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven." (Luke 12:10).

"Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin." (John 19:11).

"If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death." (1 John 5:16-17).

(a) There is a sin unto death (b) and there is a sin not unto death.

"And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree" (Deut. 21:22).

"Wherefore the sin of the young men was very great before the LORD: for men abhorred the offering of the LORD" (1 Sam 2:17).

"If one man sin against another, the judge shall judge him: but if a man sin against the LORD, who shall intreat for him?" (1 Sam. 2:25).

"For he rent Israel from the house of David; and they made Jeroboam the son of Nebat king: and Jeroboam drave Israel from following the LORD, and made them sin a great sin." (2 Kings 17:21).

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According to the bible, all sins are equal,

There is no where in the bible where sins are graded,

but the human mind sees it differently, It is the human mind that now decides to grade these sins

***Datz why people get life for murder, and just a few years for burglary***

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Well, I wouldn't know how to address your enquiry other than to point out that God's Word in very fact indicates the difference and magnitude in sins. The ultimate consequence may be the same in terms of eternal separation from God - if the sin is unrepented of before the death of the person involved.

There again, you may be persuaded that every sin is forgiveable under God's eyes; but does that include the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? I don't think one can argue round the words of the Lord Jesus. There are clearly sins that are forgiveable as long as the person involved repents and seeks God's mercy. However, that should not make anyone disregard the warning and distinction God makes in His Word about "forgiveable" and "unforgiveable" sins.

When you begin to address the issue from the perspective of how sins are dealt with in both the OT and NT, you see there are differences in earthly and eternal consequences. I would rather offer that we take time to look more closely in what the Scriptures directly stipulate than be carried along by our personal reasonings. Blessings.

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i believe every sin is forgivable under God's eyes, once u have the heart to really ask for fogiveness.

what i am asking is, what's the point in differentiating the magnitude of sins when the consequencies for ALL sins are the same ??

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Well, that's because the Lord Jesus clearly made a distinction between sins, when in John19:11 we read: "Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin."

It was bad enough that Pilate pressumed to exercise judicial power over the divine Son of God for no sin in Him; but it was even worse that someone should deliver Him to be condemned to death without a conviction of sin.

Besides, as we have seen, there are some sins which could be forgiven; and others which have no forgiveness. It's not really up to us to form arbitrary rules for codifying them - rather, God's Word has demonstrated this distinction between the types of sins anyone could commit and their consequences.

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if a constant murderer ends up in the same place with someone who steals 5cents, what's the point saying one sin is grosser than the other ?

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Lol, Softee. . . I'd rather the question was rephrased as kamsy has it. You don't want to know how to sin against the holy Spirit; rather, it would be better to know what it is to sin against Him. Let's quote the text that underscores what the Lord Jesus meant by this -

Mark 3:28-30

Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. (compare the other passages in Matt. 12:24-32 and Luke 12:10).

The religious leaders of the day accused Jesus of casting out demons by the prince of demons - Beelzebub (see Mark 3:22). In the text above, we learn that the Lord spoke those words to them about the terrible sin of blasphemy against the holy Ghost for one reason - "Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit." Thus, to refer to God's holy Spirit as an unclean spirit is a terrible sin and constitutes blasphemy against Him.

May God Himself keep our hearts and minds from this terrible sin.

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what is blasphemy against the holy spirit?

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How do you sin against the holy spirit?

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Just so that we don't misunderstand Paul's blasphemy in I Tim. 1:13, let's look at what the Lord Jesus said -

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." (Matt. 12:31).

"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven." (Luke 12:10).

Question: which 'blasphemy' was Paul refering to in I Tim. 1:13? It is clear that he did not blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, but as we read in Acts, he was blasphemous against Christ. With contempt and reproaches, He had reviled the name of Christ in opposing Him, His Church and His cause, not previously believing that He was the Messiah. This is indeed clear in Acts 26:9-11 where he gave his testimony to the fact -

I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them. And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.

So, in context, Paul was not blaspheming against the Holy Ghost, but against the name of Jesus Christ - and he did it in ignorance as in 1 Tim. 1:13.

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That is why the bible says "God is not willing that any should perish but come to repentance"

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I guess your right. But i still belive that above all God sees the heart.

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Not every sin brings eternal damnation, and that is clear in God's Word. Thieves, prostitutes and liars have been forgiven after repenting; but no repentance secures forgiveness when one commits the blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.

Paul was a blasphemer and was forgiven (I Tim. 1:13); most of the Corinthian Christians were fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, covetous, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners - but God forgave, washed, sanctified and justified them after they had repented and believed in Jesus Christ (I Cor. 6:9-11).

A small sin is as heinous as a big one, and as 4get_me said, we should not excuse any sin on the notion that it is 'forgiveable'. If I stole as much as a fiver and another stole as small as a 5p, if we don't repent of that sin and excuse it away, judgement is sure. May God help us to pursue after righteousness and shun the idea of petty thefts.

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I point is it's not the stuff you steal that takes you to hell, it's the act of stealing itself

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I hardly think stealing 10p from my mums pennie jar would put me in hell!

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But the sins you commit have worldly concequences too as well as God's concequences. So you can't look at it this way.

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"Yes, in the sense that every single sin in whatever degree they may be in brings eternal damnation."

Then that's it really. All sins are equal. What's the point in talking about 'gravities of sin' when they all carry the same punishment? I might as well not waste my time trying to commit only a 'small' sin when I can knock myself out and kill, steal, molest, lie, steal again, kill again, etc.

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Hey LiquidMind,

Can you explain exactly what each of these are and examples if possible. Or any1??

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Good point, LiquidMind.

It's true that the Bible makes clear that all sins are not equal. Some sins are forgiveable and some are not. Most religions view sins differently. Islam also has a belief in "forgiveable" and "unforgiveable" sins, and the method of dealing with them are different from the way these are dealt with in other religions.

Another thing that crosses my mind is that in Catholicism, sins are classified as either "venial" (that is, pardonable) or "mortal" (heinous and deadly) sins. It does not appear that Catholic tradition deals with sins in a clear-cut Biblical context of "forgiveable" and "unforgiveable" sins.

On the whole, whatever is the understanding we have on the subject, we should pursue righteousness and shun sin in all its forms; not even allowing any such in our lives under the excuse that they are "forgiveable".

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All sins are equal in the sight of God. The consequences and Penalty are also eqaul in the sight of God.'' For the wages of sin is death , "Rom 6 23.HELL FIRE is the end point cept you get bornagain that is the only way you can run away from it. It can be likened to people working in the same company but in different department. the truth is that they all work in the same company of sin but in different department like dept of lying, Dept of fornication, Dept of adultery, Dept of malice, Dept of 419, Dept of Molesting, Dept of bearing false witness Dept of dis and that name it anthing wrong in the eyes of God.

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Are all sins equal? Yes and No.

Yes, in the sense that every single sin in whatever degree they may be in brings eternal damnation.

No. In the sense that there are gravities of sin.

1Jo 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

I know there is a debate concerning this "death" here. Is it physical death or spiritual death? I take the former. But the point is, there is a sin leading to death.

Mt 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is unforgivable. What is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit? it's when you resolutely with finality resist the woings and pleadings of the Holy Spirit to come to Christ.

A parallel in the Old Testament is:

Isa 22:14 Then it was revealed in my hearing by the LORD of hosts, "Surely for this iniquity there will be no atonement for you, Even to your death," says the Lord GOD of hosts.

The people did not turn away from their sins and instead they set their hearts all the more to it. And have come to a place of no return and so God utterd this horrible statement.

it's not that God refuses to forgive. it's because these people have so decided that they will embrace sin than God till they die. God saw it in thier hearts thus the words.

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interesting, I am persuaded that God is no respecter of persons, If you sin, you are in essence disobeying God, so if you steal sweets, molest, or even commit murder as long as that person does not make right with God, The end result is death Roms 6:23, for the wages of sin is death

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Sin get level.

Only religious psychopaths and perverts can rank the sin of taking an innocent life with stealing sweet.

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it is equal in the sense of disobedience only not in the gravity of the offense cuzz molest and lying aint the same level.

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