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Are There Human On Earth Before Adam?

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Do you think there are any human on earth before Adam came here?

If YES, state your reasons, if NO state your reasons too.

Just let us try and be very objective.

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Dear Yisraylite,

perhaps a better way to put this argument is simply that the credibility of the BiBLE as a means of accurate historical record of the so called "creation story" is being brought into the question here by schmuck.

It is not the question of Adam and eve per say, it is rather, can and should we believe in the bible? yet here u are quoting from the very same book that metaphorically stands accused in court. the accused cannot be his own witness in court.

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Gen 1:2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of YAHAWAH was hovering over the face of the waters

Without form means without structure, Law and order gives every society form or structure

Void depending on its usage means without the Law or light of YAHAWAH

Psa 119:126 It is time for You to act, O YAHAWAH, For they have regarded Your law as void. 

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Darkness(blackness): Yer(Jer) 4:28 For this shall the earth mourn, And the heavens above be black, Because I have spoken. I have purposed and will not relent, Nor will I turn back from it

Psa 119:105 Your Law is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path

For the commandment is a lamp, And the law a light; Reproofs of instruction are the way of life

Adam was created by YAHAWAH as His new Light bearer in world that had gone dark(become Lawless). His Priest of Righteousness in a world that had now become void of light with its inhabitants living in darkness. It's kings and Rulers now lawless without the perfect Law of Love!

Remember it was from these people that Cain later took a wife from! This proves that there were other people on the earth when Adam and Eve were brought forth

Gen 4:14 Surely You have driven me out this day from the face of the ground; I shall be hidden from Your face; I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond on the earth, and it will happen [that] anyone who finds me will kill me

Who were these people whom Cain was referring to that would kill him if they found him? If Adam, Eve, Cain & Abel were the only ones one the Earth?

Gen 4:15 And YAHAWAH said to him, "Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And YAHAWAH set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him

Again who are these people? They sure aren't Adam, Eve or dead Abel!

Gen 4:16 Then Cain went out from the presence of YAHAWAH and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden. 

Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son—Enoch

Who is this wife Cain married? I heard ignorant Christians say Cain married his Sister. YAHAWAH does not permit Inbreeding, it is against His Laws, besides there is no record of Eve giving birth to any female children!

Lev 20:17 'If a man takes his sister, his father's daughter or his mother's daughter, and sees her unclothedness and she sees his unclothedness, it [is] a wicked thing. And they shall be cut off in the sight of their people. He has uncovered his sister's unclothedness. He shall bear his guilt

It was the Ruler of these lawless people that came up to deceive Adam & Eve in order to take the possession and Authority YAHAWAH had bestowed upon His Priest Adam

Please read further:

Eze 28:12 "Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says YAHAWAH: "You [were] the seal of perfection, Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty

Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of YAHAWAH; Every precious stone [was] your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes Was prepared for you on the day you were created

Eze 28:15 You [were] perfect in your ways from the day you were created, Till iniquity was found in you.

I hope you got that! Ruler of Tyre was in AYAH'S garden not Satan!

Eze 27:2 "Now, son of man, take up a lamentation for Tyre, 

Eze 27:3 and say to Tyre, 'You who are situated at the entrance of the sea, merchant of the peoples on many coastlands, thus says YAHAWAH: "O Tyre, you have said, 'I [am] perfect in beauty.' 

Eze 27:4 Your borders [are] in the midst of the seas. Your builders have perfected your beauty

Eze 27:11 Men of Arvad with your army [were] on your walls [all] around, And the men of Gammad were in your towers; They hung their shields on your walls [all] around; They made your beauty perfect

Eze 27:23 Haran, Canneh, Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Assyria, [and] Chilmad [were] your merchants.

Eze 28:2 "Son of man, say to the prince of Tyre, 'Thus says the YAHAWAH: "Because your heart [is] lifted up, And you say, 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, In the midst of the seas,' Yet you [are] a man, and not a god, Though you set your heart as the heart of a god

Is Satan a Man?  Every scripture here refers to the King or prince of Tyre who was a man(Eze 28:2)

It was the ruler of Tyre adorned with all his royal splendor,jewelled graments,procession of cymbals,trumpets,pomp and pagentry who came up to deceive Adam and Eve, This man and deceiver said 'I [am] a god, I sit [in] the seat of gods, and promised Eve the same, to become like a god

Any one watched the movie 300, where the ruler is referred to as the God king

Gen 3:5 For YAHAWAH  knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like a God, knowing good and evil.

Let me stop for now!

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well done Horus and Schmuck!

i applaud the both u.

Horus, u are killking me sofry sofry, but ur a bit off on ur facts. but what u have put forth as an argument here has more than sufficed my good man. u will enjoy knowing what could possibly be the "full story" and not the what the bible would have man believe. please go read the paper on the garden of Eden in the Urantia Book @

http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read scroll down and click paper 73 - the garden of eden and of course paper 74 too.

dare i say that is the true story of adam and eve and the garden of eden. please understand that most of what u will see may seem out of context for u as u would have to read from paper 1 to understand the full gist. just enjoy the reading friend. be open minded please. at least as open minded as u expected those who read ur argument to have been. it is most revealing. OF COURSE there where humans on earth long before adam and eve. enjoy! P.S: ur argument on the land of NOD is most exciting to me. it is mentioned in the urantia papers. those who compiled the bible failed to see the need to edit out that part about "THE LAND OF NOD" lol. well done mate!

Schmuck, who are u? are u really nigerian. i dint think there were people like us in nigeria. ur understanding about the presence of the Galactic federation is awe inspiring. people like u and i try, but we must be careful where and when we talk about such things as people are not ready to break out of their sleep, and that we usually come out as crazy to "civilised" people. they need a rude awakening. they will get it soon.

it befuddles me (if there is such a word), that at the very least, when it comes to the most basic type of logical reasoning - that man is arrogant enough to look at the starry night skies and continue with the delusional fallacy that we are alone or that the stars where put there by, "God", for man's viewing pleasure[b][/b] ?. mhh. so be it.

i would like to send u a private IM so that we may converse privately on these types of topics without harassment, but since im new to naira land, i do not know how to do so nor if such facility exists. i would have loved to obtain ur email.

what do u think?

Guys keep it up. and remember this - the mind they say is like a parachute. it works best only when its open. u must be willing to accept that all that u think u believe in, all that u have come to call "truth" or "faith" is nothing more than a function of where u were born into. so why will u not even consider that perhaps, outside of what u call ur faith. blind faith by the way, there could be more knowledge.

so be it.

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I believe that there other threads dealing with your obsession about tithes, you don't have to spam this thread to make your point known. The fact that you don't believe in the deity of Christ, the infalliblity of the Word of God and the principle and practice of tithing does not mean that you have to harrass people into believing your heresies. Get to know the Person of Christ on a personal level and He will reveal Himself to you. But in the meantime, keep your doctrines to yourself.

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So it is only when someone agrees with your dogmas that they are diligently seeking the truth. For someone who claims to be "diligently" seeking the truth i wonder why you have blantantly refused to accept the truth staring you in the face about the tithing scam? Is it becuase that is a bitter truth to swallow and it would deny you of the filthy lucre you have come to enjoy so much.

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Further insights;

When some archeologists found a fossil and they tell you it's 35,000 years old, have you ever stopped to think of the implication?

From stories recorded in the Bible, our planet (or rather the creation of man) is only about 6,000 years now. So, how come there are fossils of animals and even earlier humans that dated more than 10,000 years ago?

The fact is, there have been several generations/civilisations of humans before this one that started with Adam in the Bible. This story you know is only a start of a new genetically engineered human.

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No worries, you are only being exposed to the truth.

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I know the answer already. If I ask the question it is to allow the members of the forum to ask this question to themselves.

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some of the things you guys posted on this thread are scary i hope and i pray they are not true because  i am still a baby o,i still wan gbadun myself well well.

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You should change the r in your name to c. And add yourself a suitable surname like pocus

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@Horus: You should change the r in your name to c. And add yourself a suitable surname like pocus

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http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/who-was-cains-wife

But to help you here it is:

Who Was Cain Fearful of (Genesis 4:14)?

Some claim that there had to be lots of people on the earth other than Adam and Eve’s descendants; otherwise Cain wouldn’t have been fearful of people wanting to slay him because he killed Abel.

First of all, one reason that someone would want to harm Cain for killing Abel is if that person was a close relation of Abel!

Secondly, Cain and Abel were born quite some time before the event of Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3 states:

And in the process of time it came to pass that Cain brought an offering of the fruit of the ground to the LORD.

Note the phrase “in the process of time.” We know Seth was born when Adam was 130 years old (Genesis 5:3), and Eve saw him as a replacement for Abel (Genesis 4:25). Therefore, the time period from Cain’s birth to Abel’s death may have been 100 years or more—allowing plenty of time for other children of Adam and Eve to marry and have children. By the time Abel was killed, there may have been a considerable number of descendants of Adam and Eve involving several generations.

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The story of Adam And Eve is the Hebrew version of the origin of the human race. The Igbo's where I come from, have their version; the Yoruba's, the Hausa's; the Greek's. Everybody has. So the veracity shouldn't bother us. There has to be a beggining.

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Correct and to realise this FACT we have first to know who were Nekaybaw and Kadmon

If you take a look at what really happened in the garden based on ourstory (our-story, not history his-story) from the Egiptian Mysteries, you will be able to overstand (not understand) who and what you are. There were not only people living before "Adam" and "Eve" of the Bible, but there were tribes that existed and walked the planet earth long before the birth of the black Adam and Eve.

Let's go back to the so-called beginning when Kadmon (Adam), falsely translated as "male" who's name Zakar really means "rememberer" (Genesis 5:2), and Eve (Hawwah), falsely translated as "female" whose name is really Nekaybaw meaning "tribal leader", were fashioned. The words used in the Torah, in Aramic (Hebrew) is not "male" which is esh "female" which is eshaw. What is seen there are Zakar and Nekaybaw their real names.

First, you must clear up the misconceptions of one Adam in your Bible. There were many Adams depending on what point in time you start at. The translators of your Bible did not allow you to know these facts. They translated words that were written in the Hebrew as other words in English.

So what is sometimes written in the Bible as Hebrew was intentionally not translated correctly. Thus, you've never really read your Bible for what it really says. These translators have you thinking that the word Adam only applies to a human that was created by "god" as it is written in Genesis 2:5 however, the word Adam is used several times in the Bible not relating at all to Adam the person; yet, all are spelled the same in Hebrew. This is very deceptive and a means of keeping you under their evil hypnotic spell, which you can break if only you start taking responsibility for yourself and stop being lazy. Read the listing below:

adam as "man” Genesis 1:26

adam as "ground" Genesis 2:7

adam as "Adam" Genesis 9:18

Adam as "Noah" Genesis 6:8

Ques: How do we know by way of the Bible or Torah that there were other people living at the time?

Ans: Let's take a look. However you must think through the spell. Think. Now read Genesis 4:14.

Genesis 4:14

Modern Hebrew Script

BEHOLD, THOU HAST DRIVEN ME OUT THIS DAY ? FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH <'ADAMAH>; AND FROM <'AL> THY FACE SHALL I BE HID ; AND I SHALL BE A FUGITIVE AND A VAGABOND IN THE EARTH <'ERETS>; AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS , THAT EVERY ONE THAT FINDETH ME SHALL SLAY ME .

Behold, You Have Evicted Me From Being A Farmer In My Own Land, And From Having Access To Your Presence Without A Barathary Gland I Will Be Hidden, And I Will Become A Fugitive And A Wanderer Through Out The Planet Earth, And In Time, Any Of Those People Will Live Outside The Enclosed Garden That Finds My Disguise Will Kill Me.

Right Translation In Aramic (Hebrew) By:

Neter: A'aferti: Atum-Re

Mistranslation For King James 1611 A.D.

"BEHOLD, THOU HAST DRIVEN ME OUT THIS DAY FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH; AND FROM THY FACE SHALL I BE HID; AND I SHALL BE A FUGITIVE AND A VAGABOND IN THE EARTH; AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, THAT EVERY ONE THAT FINDETH ME SHALL SLAY ME. "

Now at this time there was only supposed to be living on the planet earth

1. Adam,

2. Eve,

3. Cain who had killed Abel, the only other person on the planet Earth right? Right!

So then who was the: "Everyone that,findeth me (Cain) shall slay me?" Think now. Just stop and think. Who was it that Cain was afraid would kill him? And remember, according to the English translation, Cain said everyone not everything. So indeed it was a person or persons that he was referring to. Then look at this in Genesis 3:1.

Genesis 3:1

Modern Hebrew Script

NOW THE SERPENT WAS MORE SUBTIL<'ARUWM> THAN ANY BEAST OF THE FIELD WHICH THE LORD GOD <'ELOHIYM> HAD MADE<'ASAH>. AND HE SAID <'AMAR> UNTO THE WOMAN <'ISHSHAH>, YEA<'APH>, HATH GOD<'ELOHIYM> SAID <'AMAR>, YE SHALL NOT EAT<'AKAL> OF EVERY TREE <'ETS> OF THE GARDEN.

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I am reading words from Schmuck.

Dear Schmuck you appear intelligent in words. However, I advise other members that eloquence and intelligence does not translate to Truth.

Everything thing you say may be true.

But all these information are not needed by man. The knowledge of these beings you are talking about cannot add value to you as a person.

Members, trust me, I tell the Truth only and lie not.

The Bible does talk about 'Thrones, Dominions, Principalities and Powers, Rulers of the darkness of this world and spiritual wickedness in high places'

But all of them are below the CHURCH of Jesus Christ.

God created them all, but put the CHURCH as head (master) over them.

You were not called to study these beings and their operations and activities, that useless information that will only build fear into you.

As a child of God, one who has come to know Jesus; You are master over these forces and they are subject to you through Christ Jesus.

Don't waste your time learning of their activities, it'll add no value to your life. But it could get your mind into a lot of mess, and you don't want to find yourself there. Many went that way and never came back and were finally branded nuts!

If you open your mind to them, they'll come in and destroy it for you by taking control of it.

Flee from such information, study the Word of the Grace of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, it has the power to save, build you up and give a divine and durable inheritance, making you a Master in this life and that which is to come.

Praise God!

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Hey guys,

When we do not know, lets just ask questions.

The Bible never said Adam was the first man on earth!

Gen 1:

26-And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27-So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 

So Adam was the first man created in Gods image(to appear like God) and likeness(to function like God) Not the first man to be created.

So do not misquote the Bible by saying Adam was the first man created.

Secondly, the Bible never said Adam and Eve were the ONLY man created, though it didn't refer to any other man created simultaneously. But more importantly, it did not say Adam and Eve were the only ones created.

Have you ever heard of evolution?

Christians would tell you there is no such thing as evolution, and that's typical of us because 99% of us are still growing in the knowledge of God and are living with so many assumptions.

The Bible is very clear on the evolutionary process and age. I'll stop here for now. 

Ask questions, Do not assume nor lean on your own understanding!  

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And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. -- 1 Corinthians 15:45

Adam is a key figure in the Bible.  He is described as the first man Adam.  The word Adam means man, the one who brought sin into the world.  He made it necessary for Jesus, the last Adam, to atone for all humans, and then rise from the grave with the promise of complete redemption for fallen creation.  If Adam was just a myth as many of you are suggesting, we would not be able to fully understand the work of Jesus. 

If Adam and Eve were not real, then we ought to doubt whether their children were real too, and their children and so on, and then we ought to doubt the first 11 chapters of Genesis, and so on.  All the genealogies accept Adam as being a literal person, so their children Cain and Abel (Genesis 4:9,10; Luke 11:50,51) must be real too.  Jesus was descended from Adam, and it is impossible to be descended from a myth.

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This mean that now you know that there was people before Adam and Eve.

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My Chambers dictionary gave two meanings.  The first one for the current language which said to fill again.  The other a shakespearean English meaning to complete or consumate.  The Hebrew word in Genesis 1:28 means to fill, to fill up.  By 1611 the word replenish meant to fill but today the same word means to Refill.

If you had taken the time to read the weblink I suggested earlier on this thread you wouldn't be asking the above questions now because it answered most if not all of your questions.  Here is the web site again.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/tools/cains_wife.asp

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You are talking about the creation of the caucasian His-Story. They found bones who are Millions of years olds.

Did you look for the meaning of the word Re- in Replenish?

1-. Since everyone came from Adam and Eve who, according to Christian doctrine, were the first human beings, then why doesn’t everyone look exactly alike?

2-.If all Human beings came from Adam and Eve , who according to Christian doctrine came from the rib of Adam, Then shouldn't everyone on the planet Earth have the same Blood Type?

3-.If there was no one on the planet except for Adam and eve Cain and abel, and abel was killed in Genesis 4:8 ,then who did cain have children by in Genesis 4:17?

4-. Where was/is the land of Nod?

5-. Who was Enoch's Mother a.k.a. Cains wife?

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If you read the statement of Jesus further to verse 9 you will find out that He was quoting from both chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis of which Adam and Eve are the main characters.

Jesus clearly taught that the creation was young, for Adam and Eve to have existed from the beginning, not billion of years after the universe and earth came into existence. Jesus made similar remarks in Mark 13:19 indicating that man's sufferings started very near the beginning of creation. The parallel phrases of "from the foundation of the world" and "from the blood of Abel" in Luke 11:50-51 also indicate that Jesus placed Abel very close to the beginning of creation, not billion of years after the beginning. His Jewish listeners would have assumed this meaning in Jesus' words, for the first-century Jewish historian Josephus indicates that the Jews of His day believed that both the first day of creation and Adam's creation were about 5,000 years before Christ.

Jesus treated as historical fact the accounts in the OT, which religious and atheistic skeptics think are unbelievable mythology as we can see expressed in this thread. These historical accounts include Adam and Eve as the first married couple (Matt. 19:3-6; Mark 10:3-9)

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Are There Human On Earth Before Adam?

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If you are still confused with the semantics go to the One who was there at the Beginning and listen to His own side of the story (His-story).  Biblical History is His Story.

He said, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." Mark 10:6

That is an eyewitness account from your Creator who was there in the very Beginning.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." -- John 1:1

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The bible is a work of fiction just like any other work of fiction. Arguing over its interpretation is the same as argunig over the interpretation and true meaning of the latest Harry Potter book.

It's not real

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Re- mean again. The bible use the word replenish, and i insist RE-plenish, you must  trace the prefix re- and see what it means. to re-fill the earth. Within many religious sects the first scroll is interpreted as Genesis, but in the Aramic (Hebrew) language it translates to “barashith.” The word barashith comes from the root word bara – meaning, “to reconstruct, or reconstruction.” In Ashuric/Syraic (Arabic), bara also means “to make” or “reconsruct” Not only is the word Genesis misinterpreted, the title of the scroll is translated incorrectly as “Sefer Maaseh Barashith,” “The Book of Creation.” However, the Aramic word ciphra means “scroll” and the correct translation should be "The Scroll of Reconstruction." The title of the Scroll of Barashith in itself confirms the fact that Genesis is a recording of the reconstruction of the planet Earth, and replenishing (re-) of man, the refilling (re-) of Earth and not the original creation.

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There is no gap period in the creation account. In Gen. 1:2 God's first step in creation introduces 3 environments.

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The words "formless and "empty" can be literally translated to "unformed and unfilled." This phrase is the key to the creation account.

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The arrangement of those first 6 days shows a clear order in God's creation.

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So you can see that order and population form the thrust of God's creative work.  Genesis 1 outlines God's creation of the world and everything in it, while Genesis 2 details the creation of man and woman. A sports commentator is not in error when (after a game) he gives in-depth analysis and fails to repeat every detail in chronological order. He is merely reviewing the completed game by mentioning the highlights. 

Genesis 1 and the beginning of Genesis 2 takes the creation account one step further by clarifying the three roles which humankind was to fill (replenish) Humankind's first role was to populate (replenish) the earth.  (the obsolete Elizabeth English called  "replenish" which means to populate or to fill the earth.  The word replenish was a very suitable word to choose in 1611 because at the time the word meant to fill completely, refuting any alleged gap.  The Hebrew word here means to fill, to fill up, such as the word replete.  Today the meaning of replenish has been altered to mean refill.  This problem arose because of the way English language has changed.

Jesus Christ, the Word of God at the Beginning of creation (John 1:1-3), gives the proper interpretation of His Words when He quoted from both chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis.  He said in Mark 10:6-9

"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."

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First of all according to Genesis 1:27 God Created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Notice that it says male and female created he them even before the creation of Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve weren’t created until Genesis 5:2 and this quote is from Genesis 1:28. It even goes to say in Genesis 1:28 that God blessed them and said be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. As you can see the word re-plenish was used and I think this is self explanatory; so this could not have been the beginning of creation.

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There was no human on earth before Adam. Read the Bible it has all the answers.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/tools/cains_wife.asp

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And the eloheems passed on this knowledge to you guys huh? in hidden messages collected centuries in scripture, professy, hylogriephics and culture.

HE created us as an expression yet limited us so that "humans cannot imagine it" or can we?

Now I get it. They are playing games with us so we can reach our true potentials.

Damn you sure did break it down to me.

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If it is shattered I'll just make up some other stuff that will make me comfortable and give meaning to my existence.

I always wonder why these aliens always vist western countries and why there have been no sightings of crop circles in the deepest jungles of the serengety or in the congo

How come they are no sightings in my village in naija. how come no stories of abductions being researched over there. World war II was in 1939-45. my parents didn't see no aliens nor did their grand parents, only stories of witches and mami waters( those must have been the aliens)

Of course your logic would state the aliens obviously would bypass any country which it deems less advanced cause the people are going to become extinct or are too primitive to comprehend their presence huh?

Frankly speaking I could care less if an alien nation invaded or landed on the earth or about glaxaies far far away, wouldn't make a difference to me anywhich way.

Before I jack out of the Matrix,

Morpheus says "the ever unending quest to the meaning of life leaves some of us eerly insane when we cannot deal with reality as it is presented to us."

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@Morpheus

You are afraid that all what you believed in is about to be questioned or probably shattered , I understand.

@dafidixone,

Stories in the Bible happened. But I am telling you that most things in Bible is figurative. Any Historian will tell you that most stories in Bible originated from several earlier scripts. That should tell you something - This is a fact and it is verifiable.

The story of Cain really pointed it out that there were other people on earth during this time. No matter how you want to look at it.

For doubters, look at my post on the first page where respected military officers gave their testimony about what they saw, experienced and underwent concerning Extra-Terrestrials.

@Sarmy,

The Prime Creator is GOD. He created all the universes as an expression of HIMSELF.

Because HE is Infinite, HIS creations are infinite and diverse so much that human cannot imagine it.

To think that we are the only intelligent being created is to limit the Prime Creator.

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Where is this in egyptian history. The closets the story of israelites or Moses in documented history is the hyskos or Imotep who is hypothesized to be the equivalent to Moses.

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Yes for those in the business of discrediting the bible, to them they thought this is a point.  But those that would involve critical thinking you will come to see that where science failed, the bible is been helpful.  The bible is the word form the mouth of God written by those given the inspiratioon.

You will agree with me that Civilization starts from Egypt, you will also agree with me that Moses and the Story of Isrealite captiovities was recorded in egypt history.  You will also agree with me that art of writing starts in Egypt and the Royal and important people have the opportunity of learning the art.  Moses was raised as a Prince in Egypt so he must have had the opportunity of learning the art of writing.

Now we have to look at how Bible was compliled for the present use.  The bible were originally written in scrolls hidden in one cave or the other and in other areas (Archiological report has shown most of this things).

The book of Genesis was written by Moses from what God told him directly.  The story of creation was not formed by Moses because in the time when Moses had encounter with God, he would have asked God some questions that will proof to Moses that the God he was dealing with was different from gods of the Egyptians.  Moses was convinced that he is on to the Most High God the creator of the Universe.

Coming form this background, we must understand that there might be limitation in the account of every event documented,many things will have  to be infared.  For example, it may be unreasonable to ask your father if you are a male or female when he is talling you the account of your birth.  

Why I feel the aspect of how Cain met other people on earth as at then might be living an unneccessary part of how Cain moved upon the earth before coming to the point and also the span of time that it takes.  The age of people met at that time was not also in the picture.

What might probarbly happen is that since God told this story to Moses, it will be unreasonable of Moses to doubt the word of God.  It will also be unreasonable for Moses to be asking God for the accopunt of Cain movement over the earth and for the age of those that he met on his way.

Let us liken the journey of Cain to that of a mad man, can anyone track the movement of a mobile mad man?

The point we must get here is that Adam and Eve had other children apart from this two mentioned before.  And no account of the children movement were given to us.

The bottomline of this story is to tell us that only God is actually the creator of the univesrse and He has the authentic record of how He did it.

Egyptians also have their gods but none of the gods could give a convincing account of creration.  Let us get message in every word of God not to focus on the literary application .  Bible is a sacred book that must be read with serious meditation.  If not you will only read it like yopu are reading Mills & Booms.

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can I upgrade to that hover craft

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The ship used by the eloheems dont need gass, instead they use the magnetic field of the planet, a free and unlimited energy.

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Oh by the way tell Link, the hoover craft is out of diseal fuel so we need to go to the heather lands close to the machine worlds harvest fields which is the only area we can tap into the earths's curst for some rich fuel.

I am getting tired of this damn ship runing out of gass.

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Seeing that you are talking in the third person you are obviously an incarnation of one these beings seeing that you possess this all knowing knowledge like your revealer York.

What is the essense of this glorious stage you want us to mature to. Don't tell me its forus to live forever or maybe have no sickness and no diseases, no hunger, no stravation . Right?***

Why don't the eloheems just come down and get it over with. Glorious position my butt!

you can co dominate the universe and leave me to my ignorance. It's bliss and everything else is a deception and an ever einextingushable appetite for POWER. Theres no equilibrium in that notion.

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Interesting submissions: but ihave this to say, the gods are coming back soon then all truth would be revealed to mankind.

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The we i am referring to is human beings. Are you saying that Barack obama, the leader of the most powerful country in the western world is a reptillian alien from another planet?

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Again same for you i just explained the agenda behind science fiction movies, so i am not dealing with "stargate", I am not dealing with stories, and i am not dealing with Beliefs. The more important thing that you have to know first is that I am NOT trying to convince you of anything, and this is very important, I am just giving you some facts. The caucasian have a different origin and were created under a different influence from luciferians reptilians beings. The same beings who influenced Adolph Hiltler to create a new blond hair blue eyes race. I know that you have some facts because you talk about green skin. We have taken in so many ions, and oxygen, which are poisoning our systems. This olive green skin tone we are lacking is because the melanin in our body is deficient of a vital molecule called magnesium. Many people think that melanin is suppose to make our skin color brown, however, it doesn’t. Magnesium was lost from the melanin and that was when iron took its place. When you mix iron with water and oxygen, it rusts. This rusting color is your brown skin tone. Now it is no longer magnesium that is dominant, but the iron when mixed with water and oxygen; both elements are essential to your life, and is what turns your skin color brown instead of green. Oxygen has now become toxic to your bodies. Believe it or not, the constant inhaling of oxygen to the system is poisonous. It has certain radioactive isotopes in it 14-0, 15-0, 19-0. You may not believe this, yet, if you do a little research you will find that it clears up many oddities about our present biochemistry. The NETERU, which is the Egyptian name for the ANUNNAQI, had an excellent balance of zinc, copper, magnesium, and iron in their blood streams to have green skin, copper would have to have been abundant in the blood. In other words their blood would had to have been more like chlorophyll, or even a gold color. The constant inhaling and processing of toxic oxygen and especially the content of CO2 in the air as it is, you are killing yourselves. You are speeding your life force, and you are bright and healthy looking, but you are aging more quicker than usual. We don’t have enough zinc in our systems and this is why our sisters labor so much in childbirth; because of the lack of zinc. I’m not saying the color brown isn’t a beautiful color, it is, but it still lacks something, and that lack is the color green, that chromatophore, that green, that magnesium, that gives you the chlorophyll base.

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So what are these aliens waiting for to come down and reveal themselves and why is all this knowledge skewed towards the evil system, controlled by the "whiteman" and the purity of the black man?

hogwash. If I sww one of these aliens I would kick their Bottom for letting people die of diseases and mental anguish for the sake of what?

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I know about the stone carving you are talking about. If I see the image, I will post it.

Imagine a stone carving dated about 2,500 years ago, showing an helicopter & a spacecraft. How do you think those ancient people get to know about all those stuffs when there wasn't even a bicycle??

Most gods they worship in ancient Egypt and Sumeria are actually aliens that descended from their spacecraft down to earth.

Let's open our mind and for once forget the bullS**t we have been fed since primary school.

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@Mantraa,

Points taken. But the planet earth is very important for some of this E.Ts. Different species have different reasons for coming to earth.

Talking about the distances between galaxies, those beings do not travel at the speed of light.

Their technology has transversed time/space [/b]continuum. A distance of 50 light-years can be made in a matter of days.

Most of them especially "the Grays" needed human genetic DNA for the own re-engineering because they have messed up their own genetics thru excessive manipulation. (A Gray E.T was captured during Roswell Crash in New Mexico.

Below you will find testimonies from [b]top government officials concerning the government cover-up since 1947.

Because of pressure from the general public now, the government both British & American have started releasing files on UFO & E.Ts

The Greatest Secret in Modern History

UFOs and a Solution to the Environmental and Energy Crisis

The Cover-up: UFOs

Mercury & Gemini Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper

A saucer flew right over [us], put down three landing gears, and landed out on the dry lakebed. [The cameramen] went out there with their cameras towards the UFO….I had a chance to hold [the film] up to the window. Good close-up shots.

There was no doubt in my mind that it was made someplace other than on this earth.—Video interview.

Transcribed in Disclosure, Steven M. Greer, MD., ed., pp. 226-227. See also Gordon Cooper & Bruce Henderson, Leap of Faith: an Astronaut’s Journey into the Unknown, pp. 80-91, 194 - 200.

FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations, John Callahan

The UFO was bouncing around the 747. [It] was a huge ball with lights running around it….

Well, I’ve been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened. I can tell you what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I’ve got a videotape. I’ve got the voice tape. I’ve got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I’ve been telling you.—

Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 80 - 85.

Former Chief of Defense, British Royal Navy, Admiral Lord Hill-Norton

I have frequently been asked why a person of my background—a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee—why I think there is a cover-up [of] the facts about UFOs.

I believe governments fear that if they did disclose those facts, people would panic. I don’t believe that at all. There is a serious possibility that we are being visited by people from outer space. It behooves us to find out who they are, where they come from, and what they want.—Video and Disclosure, pp. 305 - 307.

Former Director of CIA, Vice Admiral R.H. Hillenkoetter

It is time for the truth to be brought out in open Congressional hearings. Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel.—The New York Times, Sunday, February 28, 1960: “Air Force Order on ‘Saucers’ Cited,” p. L30. See also Disclosure, p. 58.

US Navy Pilot, Lieutenant Frederick Fox

There is a [military] publication called JANAP 146E that has a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000 fine and ten years in jail. So the secret has been kept.—Disclosure, pp. 145, 146.

Marine Corps, Corporal Jonathan Weygandt

[The UFO] was buried in the side of a cliff. When I first saw it, I was scared. I think the creatures calmed me….[Later] I was arrested [by an Air Force officer]. He was saying, “Do you like the Constitution?” I’m like, “Yeah.” He said, “We don’t obey. We just do what we want. And if you tell anybody [about us or the UFO], you will just come up missing.”—Video and Disclosure, pp. 275 - 277.

UFO Message: Don’t Mess With Nuclear Weapons

US Air Force, FAA, Captain Robert Salas

[The security guard called and] said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16 to 18 ICBMs [nuclear-tipped InterContinental Ballistic Missiles] at the same time UFOs were in the area….[A high-ranking Air Force Officer] said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report.” I heard that many of the guards that reported this incident were sent off to Viet Nam.—Video and Disclosure, pp. 168-171.

US Air Force Lieutenant, Professor Robert Jacobs

So this thing [UFO] fires a beam of light at the warhead, hits it and then it moves to the other side and fires another beam of light. And the warhead tumbles out of space. What message would I interpret from that? [The UFOs were telling us] don’t mess with nuclear warheads. Major Mannsman said, “You are never to speak of this again.” After an article [about the incident years later], people would call and start screaming at me. One night somebody blew up my mailbox.—Video and Disclosure, pp. 184, 187.

For full story see book Disclosure and witness videos at www.disclosureproject.org.

Disclosure Project has over 400 government and military witnesses prepared to testify on this subject.

More Cover-up: Advanced Technologies Developed from UFOs

Russian Air Force, Space Communications Center, General Vasily Alexeyev

As a rule, [places where UFOs appear] are objects of strategic significance….[The Air Force] came up with a table with pictures of all the shapes of UFOs that had ever been recorded—about fifty—ranging from ellipses and spheres to something resembling spaceships….The study of UFOs may reveal some new forms of energy to us, or at least bring us closer to a solution.—pp. 345–347.

US Army, General Stephen Lovekin

Colonel Holomon brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic debris. He went on to explain that this was material that had come from a New Mexico crash in 1947 of an extraterrestrial craft, and that was discussed at length….I got an opportunity to travel with the President [Eisenhower]. He was very, very interested in what made [the UFOs] go. But what happened was that Eisenhower got sold out. He realized that he was losing control of the UFO subject. He realized that the [study of these technologies] was not going to be in the best hands. That was a real concern.—Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 230 - 236.

US Air Force, Aerospace Illustrator, Mark McCandlish

This [US made] antigravity propulsion system—this flying saucer—was one of three that were in this hangar at Norton Air Force Base. They called [it] the Alien Reproduction Vehicle [ARV], also nicknamed the Flux Liner.—Disclosure, p. 501.

US Marine Corps, Captain Bill Uhouse

The [flight] simulator was for the extraterrestrial craft they had—a 30 meter one that crashed in Kingman, Arizona, back in 1953. I was inside the actual alien craft for a start-up, There are probably two or three dozen [ARVs] that we built.—Disclosure, pp. 384, 385.

US Air Force, NRO Operative, Sergeant Dan Morris

UFOs are both extraterrestrial and manmade….It’s not that our government doesn’t want us to know that there are other people on other planets. What the people in power don’t want us to know is that this free energy [from energy generators developed with UFO technology] is available to everybody. So secrecy about the UFOs is because of the energy issue. When this knowledge is found out by the people, they will demand that our government release this technology, and it will change the world.—Disclosure, pp. 364.

US Air Force, Colonel Charles Brown

I was getting 20 to 30% improvement in efficiency on an internal combustion engine. I sponsored the US Army race team on a racing car, [and] we won a race. [Then] the Federal Trade Commission performed an illegal act. I lost my vehicle, about $100,000 worth of equipment, and a test vehicle was stolen….So in three weeks, psychologically I was wiped out.—Disclosure, pp. 247 - 251.

US Army, Ph.D. in Nuclear Engineering, Colonel Thomas E. Bearden

Probably 50 inventors have invented [virtually cost-free energy systems]. If we use these systems, we can clean up this biosphere. But, what we have is a situation where the entire structure of science, industry, and the patent office are against you. And behind this, we have a few people who are quite wealthy. The more powerful the agency, the more they will resort not only to legal, but to extra-legal means to suppress their competition. Lethal force is used.—Disclosure, pp. 534 – 542. See also www.cheniere.org.

The Grand War Plan: It’s All Based on a Lie

Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries, Spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun, Dr. Carol Rosin

Von Braun [founder of modern rocket science] told me [in 1974] that the reasons for space-based weaponry were all based on a lie. He said that the strategy was to use scare tactics—that first the Russians, then the terrorists are going to be considered the enemy. The next enemy was asteroids. “The last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens, and all of it is a lie.”….I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in the War Room. The conversation [was] about how they were going to antagonize these enemies and at some point, there was going to be a Gulf War. Now this is 1977!—Video, Disclosure, pp. 255-259.

Disclosure Project, Founder and Director, Steven M. Greer, M.D.

The situation is so dire that senior Joint Chiefs of Staff leaders in the Pentagon who I have briefed, have no more access to such projects than any other civilian—unless they are on the ‘inside.’ The government is really quite outside the loop. We have insiders and scientists who can prove that we do in fact possess energy generation systems capable of completely and permanently replacing all forms of currently used energy generation and transportation systems. Every single person who is concerned about the environment and the human future should call for urgent hearings to allow these technologies to be disclosed, declassified, and safely applied.—Disclosure, pp. 14, 15, 567. See also

Dr. Greer’s websites at www.disclosureproject.org, and www.seaspower.com.

For full story see book Disclosure and witness videos at www.disclosureproject.org.

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And?. Again you are thinking from the caucasian point of view, their technology is very primitive. If you go in Egypte you can see picture of flying machines and space crafts used by ours ancestors thousands of years ago.

When you said we, who are you reffering to?. Put in your mind that the leaders of the western worlds are not from ours side, they are here to mislead you, and to do that, they create science fiction movies by adding fiction to facts to create a maximum confusion in your mind so that you will never know really what is going on.

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@Horus

aren't the Eloheem also ancestors of White people too or do you have another mutation story for us on how white people came about and we are somehow superior to them because we are supposedly the first ancestors of this Eloheem or that our skin was originally green before we rusted out into brown. Come on man.

Stop watching too much of "Stargate"

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This is nonsense, based on science fiction and conspiracy theorists.

Do you know how far those star systems are from us and how many light years it would take to get here (travelling at the speed of light)? Do you really think that a civilisation so advanced would be captured by our primitive 'world government' or crash land in the desert close to a secret military base?

If we were able to send a mission to another star system, dont you think we would monitor it and keep in contact with it? Just think what would happen if the native americans had captured an early explorer like columbus and his ship for instance. Do you think the chiefs would be able to keep it quiet from the people. The british empire would launch a rescue mission with their advanced weapons and technology.

Do you think that advanced alien beings who can travel across galaxies and between galaxies are that silly that they can be controlled by our primitive governments who cant even control their own budgets?

Why has no one ever captured one definite alien spacecraft on video now that so many people carry video phones? Think about it.

This is true, but does mean to you that aliens must have wrote it? This just shows that a lot of stories in the bible incorporate a lot of earlier myths and legends. This is quite normal.

I agree with this 100%

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I just want to commend you on your brilliant and incisive write up on the creation story. Simply spot on. Your use of the Strong's concordance puts the whole story in a much better and clearer perspective.

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